nihilistjnr:


there's a loooot of conjecture in that article though.

The only facts be presented were related to cycling and guardiola's personal drug case

Eruditor:


You are right that the Nandrolone is controlled however "Some dietary supplements contain compounds similar to nandrolone or its metabolic precursors, which produce the same metabolites as does nandrolone,"

Based on this, one cannot tell if the test that he failed was a result of nandrolone itself or the metabolic precursors that could be found in dietary supplements like energy drinks. Linford Christie, Christophe Dugarry and many other athletes got their suspensions lifted on the same premise.

The difference is, Pep argued his case long after he was exonerated and in 2009 got the charge expunged from his record.

Greatihex:
https://www.nairaland.com/5206917/femi-fani-kayode-nigeria-road-rwanda



God save us. This is getting serious..
Some of us saw it coming.

NLBigBoy:
Anyone watching the U-20 World Cup...It’s fantastic this year with laughable schoolboy defending and Outrageous ballsy skill moves...Some of this teams are amazing to watch when you compare them to that shít infested man utd team

PDPGuy:

I’m watching the tournament too. And it looks like half the Nigerian team is over aged

My OGA age is just a number...It’s all about how you feel at heart...If 25yr old Umar says his birth certificate is from 2001 and he feels like an 18yr old who am I to disagree? as long as I can brag that we brought it home as usual I don’t care

Really looking forward to that USA game on Monday that will be ultimate bragging right for me...Western Technology vs African Hunger

Roland17:

@Eruditor. please pay special attention to specific details regarding Pep's doping test. This an honest work of investigative journalism.

http://theunapologists.com/break-silence-doping-football

Manchester City are running away with the league, playing breathtaking football and running their opponents ragged. Pep Guardiola has been credited – rightly so – for his innovative tactics and high-pressing defensive style (another in-vogue aspect of playing the beautiful game), despite question marks around the legality and fairness of his methods

Whilst playing in Italy, Guardiola himself was found to have steroids in his system. Mitigating evidence meant that – after a few appeals and serving a ban – Guardiola was cleared of misuse of illegal, performance enhancing drugs, despite tests showing over six times the legal limit of the steroid Nandrolone in his system. He has always protested his innocence, using multiple defences to claim his innocence throughout the lengthy appeal process

“Unstable urine” – an effect that meant nandrolone would appear in urine as a result of a chemical reaction – was used as a final argument, despite the chances of this happening being between 1/1000 and 1/10000. Stability tests were supposed to have been taken within 5 weeks of the initial sample, but at this stage it was too late. Guardiola, like many important people before him, got off on a technicality.

In 2010, UEFA fined his Barcelona team for not providing details of player whereabouts; an innocuous issue most of the time, but given the rumours around Pep and his all-dominating team, something with the potential to turn rather serious

Manchester City were fined for a similar breach of anti-doping rules last year.

2013 saw Pep move to Bayern Munich for three years, where his team suffered from a number of injuries and failed to win the Champions League.

Guardiola is under immense pressure, having spent more on defence than some countries.

Roland17:


In 2007, there was finally some light at the end of the tunnel for Guardiola. After two failed appeals a shred of hope remained when Guardiola’s close friend, personal assistant and formal water polo great Manuel Estiarte (below left, still Guardiola’s right-hand man at Manchester City) discovered changes in the World Anti-Doping Agency’s (WADA) guidelines which he thought could exonerate Guardiola.

In 2005, WADA had found that a phenomenon called “unstable urine” in samples could lead to positive tests for low levels of nandrolone. In very rare cases nandrolone could be found in samples not because of external administration but as a result of a chemical reaction that “may occur in a vial containing urine.”

WADA instructed all accredited labs to perform “stability tests” on urine samples with nandrolone concentration from 2 to 10ng/ml moving forward. Guardiola’s values were at the high end of this scale (12ng/ml for NE). Those samples that were deemed “unstable” would not constitute an adverse analytic finding for nandrolone.

Then-WADA Director General David Howman stood by the efficacy of the previous testing for nandrolone and said the chances of urine becoming unstable were “very rare”. The chances were between 1 out of 1,000 and 1 out of 10,000 positive tests for nandrolone.

Guardiola was cleared by the Brescia Court of Appeals. This was not because his samples were deemed “unstable” but because it could have been possible that his four samples had been “unstable”. Guardiola was absolved of all blame because of “the impossibility to now perform stability tests on the samples taken” in 2001.

Stability tests must be carried out within five weeks of the collection of a sample. In 2007, no sample even remained to be re-tested.

Excerpts from

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2017/04/25/sharapova-guardiola-doping-darkness-and-light-250401/

chic2pimp:


100% disagree. Bar Messi, this Current Barca Team is at par with this Current Liverpool team based on skill alone. At worst maybe Barcelona has a slight edge but the difference is minute.

Greatihex:
i was even more surprised to see afrodoc say that PED does not improve dribbling.

Seems like a lot of our old guys did not even play monkey post.. How can someone who ever played any kind of football downplay the importance of strength in football.

Greatihex:
i was even more surprised to see afrodoc say that PED does not improve dribbling.

Seems like a lot of our old guys did not even play monkey post.. How can someone who ever played any kind of football downplay the importance of strength in football.

BikeMan:
I still think it's a buuullshit news. But we can do with that move actually.

afrodoc2:


You should be smarter than this, and if you are not at least pretend. It is not everyone that will come here to be repeating the "i played football, i played football" mantra here to validate himself.
I played football, basketball, and handball for my school at national level AND was called to NYSC state camp for football (for those who love throwing imaginary shade).

That was how Coogar (thinking i lived in Nigeria) was using a measly 54k pounds to boast here until i set him straight.

Greatihex:
you should have known better then. I didn't expect that from you

afrodoc2:


Apologies, na small vex cause am. No vex.

Me just no like when people try to win debates by going personal against people you know nothing personal about

airmark:


You see people claiming to be experts in their fields making ridiculous mistakes like Boathand.

He also claimed that trams couldn't be used to enhance performance, something that uneducated Agbowo footballers would laugh at.

Some people can't defend the certificates they brag with, when put to test.

If you are out of energy on the field, to pass the ball well, could even be an herculean task, let alone wriggling out of opponent tackles, while one dribbles with the ball.

It's when you have discussions like this that you weigh knowledge and intelligence.

nihilistjnr:


tramadol is not a PED.

Wada does not have it on the banned substances list

airmark:



Meldonium wasn't on any banned list until it was investigated and later banned, after Sharapova was caught. Do you think the drug only started functioning as PED in 2016, when it was banned?

Not finding a drug that has been tested and confirmed to enhance performance, on wada list, proves nothing.

nihilistjnr:


Tramadol is a pain killer. It does not affect your performance. If trams is a PED then ibuprofen and even panadol are PEDs

afrodoc2:

That was how Coogar (thinking i lived in Nigeria) was using a measly 54k pounds to boast here until i set him straight.

chic2pimp:

You know say you be my oga at the top right? Abeg send the Measly 54k pounds to my account and I'll forever be indebted to you

Eruditor:


There is not much to say here as I already did in the other post. This exactly captures what I was saying. A Nandrolone urine test could read 2ng/ml concentration today and yet when that same sample is tested again in 2 years read 4ng/ml. A good lawyer will then simply ask, "did my client's urine inject itself with 2ng/ml concentration of the steroid while in storage? If no, then it is highly possible that even the 2ng/ml test could be skewed if it was not done immediately it was drawn

"Since you cannot therefore prove that my client purposely took a heavy dose of the steroid nor can you ascertain the actual dose he took and how it got into his system, then you must discharge and acquit him"..

elrony:


I just want the 4 in front of the 5... You can have the rest!

Afrodoc children na the real O.B.O

chic2pimp:

You know say you be my oga at the top right? Abeg send the Measly 54k pounds to my account and I'll forever be indebted to you

fredoooooo:
Chic2pimp and elrony awon Omo ole Meji..

afrodoc2 abeg na just 10% of that figure dey important according to the bible , I be pastor

fredoooooo:
Chic2pimp and elrony awon Omo ole Meji..

afrodoc2 abeg na just 10% of that figure dey important according to the bible , I be pastor