Greatihex:
You Can take example from the teacher and the 16 years old student. You Can imagine when a supposed minor would go to her teacher's house for lessons and refuse to put on undies so that she can seduce the teacher. When the teacher who is supposed to control himself and act like a responsible adult refusing to do that, we will now want to crucify the man alone, whiling leaving the stupid girl that asked for it?

airmark:


You wouldn't stop exposing your limited knowledge of the round leather game.

To every sensible football analyst, Chelsea lost the duel, the moment Del horno was given the matching order, courtesy the Argentine that troubled Chelsea all night and subsequently helped Fraudiola to reach the peak of his coaching career.

airmark:


Have they deleted your Bayern munich thread?

Debroslink:


Dinho didn't. It was John Terryble's own goal.

A40:
Let them start from somewhere. If the Pastor got away with slapping people in public does not mean the Senator should too. Plus the guy seems to have a history. Nonetheless you can see this one on tape so deniability is out of the question

A40:
Do you believe Bill Cosby was guilty or innocent? We both know Pastor Biodun is not going to jail.

In this Pastor's case innocence can only apply if he didn't kpansh her at underage level. I didn't believe the Ese case and the previous ones that were leveled against him in the past but I'm having my doubts because of the sheer volume of people on his matter that's why I hope he can somehow prove his innocence. My only issue with him from day 1 was his Pastor Elegucci pattern of finessing his members of their hard earned money with scripture

raumdeuter:



What is underage level as defined in Nigerian laws. Especially when in th North its acceptable to marry a 13yr old. Mind you Ilorin is also in the North

Your main problem is Pastor finnesing his members just like every Pastor in Nigeria. Does that make them criminals?

donjazet:


Dayo, two wrongs don't make a right, stop using the vile practice in some parts of the world to justify underage sex.

me and you both know that marrying a 13 year old girl is wrong in every way thought of.

unfortunately, it's one of the vile ancient customs still being practised in underdeveloped parts of the world, just like female mutilation, arranged marriages and so on.

But we, who are now more culturally diversed, integrated and evolved in our thinking are supposed to try to correct the wrongs of the past and not use those mistakes to defend what we both know is absolutely perverse in nature.

It's just like using the killing of twins in the past to justify late term abortion.

raumdeuter:


Who told you its wrong and what constitutes underage sex. Is it not the law of the land? What is now the law of the land?

This link shows the age of consent in European countries. Check the list of countries there and see how many of them are underdeveloped like you claimed

https://www.ageofconsent.net/continent/europe

What is wrong with arranged marriages? Many of my colleagues at work from India still do arrange marriages and from stats, they have lesser divorces build stronger families, raised adjusted kids than people who marry out of spur of the moment emotions called love

nihilistjnr:


All pastors do this.

ALL

raumdeuter:


Return leg, I thought Dinho scored

donjazet:


I'm now immune to your odd stances on issues, it's been clear right from time that you love taking controversial stands just for the sake of arguments.

Dayo, would you like your daughter to start having sex by 13 or 14 years of age?
Do you yourself have sex with 13 year olds? Your answer settles this argument.

Some Laws of the land at a given time may not necessarily be right, because ultimately, the reasons for those laws might have been formed from biased or selfish basis by its makers, for instance, segregationist laws and pro slavery laws in the USA.

Greatihex:
you definitely have known a lot of fake pastors or would i say, worldly pastors

donjazet:


You continue to show just how limited and biased your critical analytical reasoning is.

@ the bolded, If a 16 year old teen comes unto a teacher and they end up having sex, the teacher is rightfully scorned.
as a teacher you're expected to be ready for such an encounter, you're trained to overcome such incidents.

The teacher is supposed to be the be the moral figurehead to the Student, he is supposed to stop the girl right in her tracks and attempt to make her see the error of her ways and put her on the right track, not give in to her seduction.

What kind of society will we have If every teacher gave in to the temptation and had sex with teens?
The teacher is rightfully scorned so as to dissuade others from doing so.

It's just like justifying a public officer's acceptance of a bribe because he was deeply tempted by his subjects high offer.

Are you not to blame the officer for accepting the bribe?
Wouldn't you expect the public officer to have rejected the bribe and maintained his integrity as his office expect? once again,

THINK.

donjazet:


You continue to show just how limited and biased your critical analytical reasoning is.

@ the bolded, If a 16 year old teen comes unto a teacher and they end up having sex, the teacher is rightfully scorned.
as a teacher you're expected to be ready for such an encounter, you're trained to overcome such incidents.

The teacher is supposed to be the be the moral figurehead to the Student, he is supposed to stop the girl right in her tracks and attempt to make her see the error of her ways and put her on the right track, not give in to her seduction.

What kind of society will we have If every teacher gave in to the temptation and had sex with teens?
The teacher is rightfully scorned so as to dissuade others from doing so.

It's just like justifying a public officer's acceptance of a bribe because he was deeply tempted by his subjects high offer.

Are you not to blame the officer for accepting the bribe?
Wouldn't you expect the public officer to have rejected the bribe and maintained his integrity as his office expect? once again,

THINK.

chic2pimp:


With all due respect, this makes little to no sense if I am to be totally Honest with you.

In this particular scenario you highlighted, who are we to Blame if not the Irresponsible Adult Male? Just because a Minor is gagging for it does not mean you have to get your d@$k wet. It's at times like these that Self restraint, Self respect and Moral Decency comes into play.

It's not errday Fukku Fakka, sometimes give little man down there a bit of respite.

raumdeuter:


The genuine pastors you know who are not worldly.

Where do they get their income from?

VargasVee:
For the first time this year, Marina has done a good business.

Athleti's plan was to use him for one more year, bid very low for him or refuse to sign him permanently if Chelsea hadn't pulled the plug.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Greatihex:
in my church, the Pastors are paid salary by the church.

Infact, the Pastors are at the mercy of the church

raumdeuter:


Its not what I like or what I don't like, Its what the law says.

If the laws are not right then that is your own personal belief, and its not a crime

Are societies governed by the personal opinions of people?
Personally, I don't like, I don't want my 18yr old daughter to sleep with a 60yr old man but is it a crime?

Let me ask you, is a 60yr old man marrying a 20yr old girl his granddaughters agemate as 6th wife okay by you?

Personally, I don't like, I don't want my 18yr old daughter to sleep with a 60yr old man

raumdeuter:


The money for that salary, where does it come from

donjazet:
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The answer to the bolded is YES.
Laws are made by the personal opinion of people, if all of us on this sports thread decide to go publicly and campaign vigorously against child marriage at fct, our movement can gain traction over time, one of the leaders of the movement can win a seat at parliament and fight fully for the act to be criminalized. That's the beauty of democracy.

I will take this as a win.
you have changed the dynamics and context of the argument to whether it's a crime or not, not whether it's right or wrong.

Since the pastors rape story came out, what many people have been arguing about foremostly is whether his actions were RIGHT, not necessarily whether they were legal.

You have been defending him on the basis of whether he got consent or not from the girl but people are saying its not right for a man to court a lot of girls who are underage.

For the first time, you have admitted that underage sex is not right and that is a win that I'll take.

Greatihex:
from title, church support offering and seeds of faith.
Now, why would a pastor in this case want to exploit members financially when in the end he will still get his fixed salary?

thorrvik55:
Am I the only one watching the naija match

raumdeuter:


The pastor who slapped is also on youtube and has been for several years

A40:
Let the slapee press charges. For all we know they might have been settled at the background

chic2pimp:


With all due respect, this makes little to no sense if I am to be totally Honest with you.

In this particular scenario you highlighted, who are we to Blame if not the Irresponsible Adult Male? Just because a Minor is gagging for it does not mean you have to get your d@$k wet. It's at times like these that Self restraint, Self respect and Moral Decency comes into play.

It's not errday Fukku Fakka, sometimes give little man down there a bit of respite.

raumdeuter:
donjazet

If a girl says your brother raped her. You asked her how it happened and she said

When he was about to do it, I wanted to react but he covered my mouth and said 'Chioma, listen to me and you will be fine, just do what I want you to do"
I didn't struggle, I just let him, he brought out his dick, pulled down my panties. I was grunting I will cry and he eventually penetrated he finished what he wanted to do.

Will you say your brother raped her?