airmark:


It can't be described.

So happy both the mother and baby, are alive. I couldn't sleep, making and receiving calls with happiness.

definitely, it can't be described

Congratulations Airmark!!!

Melvyn11:

All I care about is the amount used in assembling both teams and Liverpool came on top. So the argument of being underdogs is dead.

The point is pep has been unable to win ucl or even make final outside Barca. Not that he went to an average team after Barca. This is what make him overrated. He is good no doubt but he is a conformist and overrated. Klopp is a better coach than him seeing that klopp has done great with an average team like Dortmund. Klopp groomed most of those Dortmund players to world class level. Tell me if this is not a world class criteria. Pep first season in epl he couldn’t even compete the local cup he had to overhaul the team, whereas klopp was competing with Chelsea with the players he came to meet.

Melvyn11:


He did exactly what klopp did in less than 6 months not 4 yrs without breaking any transfer record so tell me what exactly is klopp Praised for?

Klop is praised for his consistency, he is praised for rejuvenating and making Liverpool formidable again just the way he rejuvenated Dortmund if not for Bayern and other clubs that came to sign his best players he would’ve won ucl with dortmund that I am sure of. Klopp is praised for keeping Liverpool transfer policy intact and still doing well. He sold coutinho for an outrageous fee so it is wise to invest that money into the squad and he bought DIjk and Allison who were his priority seeing that coutinho was an important player for the club.

kendrick93:
klopp and his team was quite inexperienced in Europe..it was their first trial in Europe too..
You could see after he got the hang of things he started smashing it in Europe...
That's called team building something pep hasn't experienced because he's been playing real life football manager where he can sign whoever he wants no matter the costs

Those two were not even world class player as at that time. Klopp groomed those players.

raumdeuter:


Dortmund already played Europa cup the season before and crashed out of the group stages. when they were only able to beat Karpaty Lviv

Who were lewandowski and Gotze prior to that time. We’re they top footballers as at then, was it not same klopp that made them who are which make other club to see them as world class.

Melvyn11:

He also inherited Van dijk from Southampton Bwhahahaha. Now when klopp has the more expensive Eleven you have started making Excuses for his failures.

Not that he signed Dijk from Real Madrid or Barcelona but Southampton. Are you aware Dijk according to many people was a gamble which Klopp utilized very well. Why do you think airmark has been arguing Dijk with lordfalcao that he is better than Rudiger.

Melvyn11:


Pep doesn't get to hide behind the "underdogs/no-one expected us to win trophy" tag like Klopp. Guardiola doesn't get 4 years to build a team to win one trophy.

With the money pep has spent in man city he is supposed to be reaching at least semi final or final in the ucl.

raumdeuter:


So context matters now? But do you consider that Man City side has never won anything in Europe in their entire existence or they have never had a pedigree in the comptition

But they have reached semi final before pep. With the money pep has spent he is supposed to be reaching final or semi final in the ucl.

Melvyn11:

None of your Epistles will change the fact that Liverpool 11 was more expensive than that of Madrid. And guess the coach with the most expensive starting 11 to ever win the Champions League.

Big lie. Madrid players would cost more in the market than Liverpool player as at then.

hensben:
Who were lewandowski and Gotze prior to that time. We’re they top footballers as at then, was it not same klopp that made them who are which make other club to see them as world class.

Who were Busquets Pedro, Pique, before Pep got to Barcelona?

hensben:
Pep first season in epl he couldn’t even compete the local cup he had to overhaul the team, whereas klopp was competing with Chelsea with the players he came to meet.

Klopps first season in EPL where did he finish?

Peps first season he finished 3rd(78points). verdict He couldnt compete
Klopps first season finished 8th(60points). second season 4th(below Pep) verdict he was competing immediately he got to the EPL

Do you now see why people think you are not sensible

hensben:
But they have reached semi final before pep. With the money pep has spent he is supposed to be reaching final or semi final in the ucl.

Do you know Liverpool has won 5 CL before Klopp?

raumdeuter:


Do you know Liverpool has won 5 CL before Klopp?

Man city reached semi final and then sign pep. Liverpool were in shambles when they signed klopp.

raumdeuter:


Who were Busquets Pedro, Pique, before Pep got to Barcelona?

Were bousquet and Pedro core players for Barcelona like Lewy and Gotze. Why not mention Xavi, Messi, Puyol, Alves, Toure yaya, iniesta, ibrahjmovich Which he signed and sold also.

Congratulations airmark

Onye ball...

raumdeuter:


Klopps first season in EPL where did he finish?

Peps first season he finished 3rd(78points). verdict He couldnt compete
Klopps first season finished 8th(60points). second season 4th(below Pep) verdict he was competing immediately he got to the EPL

Do you now see why people think you are not sensible

Liverpool were in shambles when klopp came unlike man city who were always a competitor for the epl title before pep.

hensben:
Liverpool were in shambles when klopp came unlike man city who were always a competitor for the epl title before pep.

Season before Klopp joined Liverpool finished 6th with 62points, first season of Klopp Liverpool finished 8th with 60 points
Season before Pep joined City finished 4th with 66points, First season of Pep City finished 3rd 78 points

Verdict Pep couldnt compete immediately while Klopp immediately started competing

No wonder you are the senior prefect at the citadel

hensben:
Were bousquet and Pedro core players for Barcelona like Lewy and Gotze. Why not mention Xavi, Messi, Puyol, Alves, Toure yaya, iniesta, ibrahjmovich Which he signed and sold also.

You are asking if Busquets is a core player? who is a core player if not Busquets?

raumdeuter:


Season before Klopp joined Liverpool finished 6th with 62points, first season of Klopp Liverpool finished 8th with 60 points
Season before Pep joined City finished 4th with 66points, First season of Pep City finished 3rd 78 points

Verdict Pep couldnt compete immediately while Klopp immediately started competing

No wonder you are the senior prefect at the citadel

You are the one saying klopp competed in his first season. I am only letting you know the state of the two clubs before they were signed.

hensben:
You are the one saying klopp competed in his first season. I am only letting you know the state of the two clubs before they were signed.

Who said the below

hensben:
Pep first season in epl he couldn’t even compete the local cup he had to overhaul the team, whereas klopp was competing with Chelsea with the players he came to meet.

raumdeuter:


Who said the below

This was like the beginning of the season klopp was doing well with what he came to meet whereas pep was struggling.

hensben:
This was like the beginning of the season klopp was doing well with what he came to meet whereas pep was struggling.

How was Klopp doing well at the beginning when he moved Liverpool from 6th to 8th in his first season with less points than his predecessor had?

Pep took City from 4th to 3rd increasing their points, Klopp took Liverpool from 6th to 8th reducing their points

Tell us which of the 2 did well in the beginning

raumdeuter:


How was Klopp doing well at the beginning when he moved Liverpool from 6th to 8th in his first season with less points than his predecessor had?

Pep took City from 4th to 3rd increasing their points, Klopp took Liverpool from 6th to 8th reducing their points

Tell us which of the 2 did well in the beginning

You are not getting it. Smh

Greatihex:
definitely, it can't be described

Ask him again in three months, he'll have a lot to say on this

ManBeast:
Congratulations airmark, time to change pampas and wake at night when the baby starts crying.

Congrats Airmark, E ku owo lomi, e ku ewu omo. Olorun a wo, Olorun a daasi.

hensben:
You are not getting it. Smh

Prove that Klopp was doing better at the beginning of his Liverpool tenure than Pep at the beginning of his City tenure like you stated

hensben:
This was like the beginning of the season klopp was doing well with what he came to meet whereas[b] pep was struggling[/b].

Guy put your illogical fallacies in proper order to sound believable. Who was untop of the league log before they met Chelsea? You just said the vice versa. Keep shooting yourself by trying hard to discredit pep.

Congrats Airmark

hensben:
Klop is praised for his consistency, he is praised for rejuvenating and making Liverpool formidable again just the way he rejuvenated Dortmund if not for Bayern and other clubs that came to sign his best players he would’ve won ucl with dortmund that I am sure of. Klopp is praised for keeping Liverpool transfer policy intact and still doing well. He sold coutinho for an outrageous fee so it is wise to invest that money into the squad and he bought DIjk and Allison who were his priority seeing that coutinho was an important player for the club.

Listen friend you are going way off topic. Like I said initially Klopp is a 2nd tier coach who goes to club with no pressure were if he wins he is praised and if he doesn't he is not condemned or Criticised, a perfect example is Poch at Spurs. Klopp at bigger clubs will be a recipe for disaster. Telling players like Henderson, Mane, Firmino etc who haven't won anything in their careers is different from telling serial winners like Ramos,Modric,Suarez and Messi to run like madmen.

Congratulations Airmark

Congrats Sir airhead