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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:55am On Jan 29, 2020
Curtis opinion.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:01am On Jan 29, 2020
hensben:
Curtis opinion.

You have abandoned Conte and Mourinho its Klopp you are attaching to now after spending the past 4yrs giving Conte and Mourinho verbal massages

Rather we don't want to hear about Klopp lets hear about Cuntay and Mourinho

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:02am On Jan 29, 2020
LegoxMetahuman:
one thing pep never did was win epl on first try after spending quarter a billion dollars cool


most managers who have spent 200 million and above in first season in england have won it on first try except apari.

Well Pep never got fired nor finished outside top 4. Unlike Cuntay who spent quarter of a billion to finish 5th and get fired

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LegoxMetahuman: 1:06am On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


Well Pep never got fired nor finished outside top 4. Unlike Cuntay who spent quarter of a billion to finish 5th and get fired
conte never spent 1billion dollars to crash out ucl quater final 3 fucking times grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:31am On Jan 29, 2020
LegoxMetahuman:
conte never spent 1billion dollars to crash out ucl quater final 3 fucking times grin

Cuntay took Juventus couldn't make a semi, Allegri took the same Juve to 2 finals

Cuntay blew a quarter of a billion to finish 5th in the league

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LegoxMetahuman: 1:54am On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


Cuntay took Juventus couldn't make a semi, Allegri took the same Juve to 2 finals

Cuntay blew a quarter of a billion to finish 5th in the league
conte took juventus that were no where to be found in Italy to 3 straight local league cup and winning it undefeated in one of those.


apari spent 1billions dollars but couldn't go past quarter final

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:20am On Jan 29, 2020
LegoxMetahuman:
conte took juventus that were no where to be found in Italy to 3 straight local league cup and winning it undefeated in one of those.


apari spent 1billions dollars but couldn't go past quarter final

Juventus has won 35 league titles, Cuntay won 3 of them but somehow this Juventus was nowhere to be found

Juventus that has been winning Serie A before Cuntay was born

The Juventus with Buffon, Pirlo, Del Piero Chiellini, Grosso world cup winners are the nowhere to be found Juventus

Imagine person carry all these players join Vidal Tevez and can't beat Galatasaray and qualify

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:31am On Jan 29, 2020
hensben:
Curtis opinion.

No sane football analyst will place Fraudiola over Klopp at the moment.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:33am On Jan 29, 2020
airmark:


No sane football analyst will place Fraudiola over Klopp at the moment.


What happened to the Mourinho and Cuntay you placed over Guardiola in the past.

Did they die or just found their level

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:34am On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


You have abandoned Conte and Mourinho its Klopp you are attaching to now after spending the past 4yrs giving Conte and Mourinho verbal massages

Rather we don't want to hear about Klopp lets hear about Cuntay and Mourinho

Why are you running away from Klopp? grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:07am On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


You have abandoned Conte and Mourinho its Klopp you are attaching to now after spending the past 4yrs giving Conte and Mourinho verbal massages

Rather we don't want to hear about Klopp lets hear about Cuntay and Mourinho
Although, I don’t like Mou’s tactics but his achievement>> pep’s achievement due to the way the former achieved his. Conte is a good coach too, he has been unfortunate not to coach a team with Arabu money like Pep.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:58am On Jan 29, 2020
Found this on quora.
This nigga tried in making a serious case for benzema.



Although, more can be gotten from his stats assembly.

Let it begin!!!!








One thing I know for sure is that we really don’t appreciate just how ridiculously consistent Benzema’s goal scoring record is. I only learned to appreciate it until 1–2 weeks ago when I looked at his numbers and compared them to other great strikers.

Since apparently I have too much time to waste on my hands, I decided to compile the career goal and assist data of a select group of 50 top forwards of the last 25 years. To do this, I used the ridiculously comprehensive database, which includes:

Most domestic European leagues and cups (1990-)
Some big American leagues/cups: US, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil (2000-). No Colombia or Uruguay, though.
Some big leagues/cups in Africa, Asia, Oceania: Qatar, Saudi Araba, Japan, South Korea, China, Egypt, South Africa, Australia (2000-)
Most big international club tournaments: Champions League, Europa League, Copa Libertadores, African CL, Asian CL, Club World Cup, etc.
Almost all national team games, especially from 1995 onwards. Includes official friendlies.
In other words, we can safely say the career records you will see below include all competitions.

First, I calculated the full career goals + assists per 90 mins of this select group of 50 top forwards of the last 25 years. As you can see, in this particular metric Benzema ranks 7th.










Then to show that Benzema’s raw goal-scoring rate is also quite good, I calculated the career non-penalty goals per 90 mins for the same group of 50 forwards. Benzema ranks 15th in this case.








Mind you, this is the same Benzema we have defended for years by saying that “his goal-scoring record does not tell you the whole story”. The same Karim whose associative skill improves players around him and has often been one of the tactical cornerstones of Real Madrid’s offensive structure. That Karim is also one of the most prolific goal scorers of the last 25 years.

The only reason we don't recognize Benzema's proper place in football history is that he played in a league with the handful of forwards who were actually more productive than him (Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Suarez). Only compared to them could he ever be considered "inconsistent" or a “poor goal scorer”.

So remember, folks: it's fair and accurate to say Benzema has been inconsistent post-2016. But do not let that obscure the fact that he has produced almost 1 G+A p90 throughout his entire career.

I hope that these numbers can help us put Karim's career into perspective. For example, one can find historic striker lists that include Raúl, Eto'o, Zlatan, Inzaghi, Henry, etc...but not Benzema. And I believe he is, at least, at their level. He could be perfectly considered one of the ten best strikers of the last 25 years.

Addendum: A few caveats about these goal-assist rankings

Let's remember that a simple G/A ranking is reductionist and fails to consider so, so many factors. If that were not the case, then I could use that ranking to say Mario Gomez was as good as Ronaldo Nazário tongue

For example, Benzema benefited from being the center forward of a historic Real Madrid for a decade and played alongside the ridiculous goal-assist machine that is Ronaldo, with both players feeding off each other to boost their stats. That does inflate his numbers compared to other strikers. By the way, similar things could be said about Suarez or Neymar: they were super productive but their stats benefited from playing alongside Messi.

It also shouldn’t come as a surprise that most players who top that ranking all played for the superclubs of the last decade (Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, FC Bayern). After the Bosman ruling, we have seen an increasing concentration of wealth and player talent in a select few clubs. The performance gap between top clubs and low-mid tier clubs in the big European leagues is getting wider. That explains many things, such as why strikers of the last 10 years have scored more goals than their predecessors, or why trophy doubles and trebles are more common.

Because of these issues, it would be very wrong to use the goal-assist charts I posted as the only metric to decide which forwards are better.


https://www.quora.com/Now-that-Benzema-is-Real-Madrids-6th-highest-goal-scorer-will-people-be-forced-to-admit-that-he-is-underrated/answer/Jos%C3%A9-P%C3%A9rez-4?ch=10&share=2903eece&srid=eLbpK

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:04am On Jan 29, 2020
hensben:
Curtis opinion.

Is Barcelona B a bigger club than Mainz, Dortmund and Liverpool?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LegoxMetahuman: 8:05am On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:
[s]

Juventus has won 35 league titles, Cuntay won 3 of them but somehow this Juventus was nowhere to be found[/s]

Juventus that has been winning Serie A before Cuntay was born

The Juventus with Buffon, Pirlo, Del Piero Chiellini, Grosso world cup winners are the nowhere to be found Juventus

Imagine person carry all these players join Vidal Tevez and can't beat Galatasaray and qualify
if conte took over man utd today and they won 3 straight titles you will tell us how they won 13 epl before abi?

where were juventus on the table before conte took over? who made juventus dominant in the last decade in italy?



lastly explain to us how a single manager spent close to 1biilion dollars but couldn't get past quarter freaking final of ucl grin
let's not forget this 1 billion dollar spending manager is the supposed "best manager in the history world"

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:18am On Jan 29, 2020
airmark:


Why are you running away from Klopp? grin
Mark you be mumu oo...grin grin cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:33am On Jan 29, 2020
It has passed 2 million signatures already. From Jerry West to kobe sad

Cc A40.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kholiwe(f): 9:46am On Jan 29, 2020
Godx:
It has passed 2 million signatures already. From Jerry West to kobe sad

Cc A40.
A rapist angry angry. HELL NO
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:52am On Jan 29, 2020
Godx:
It has passed 2 million signatures already. From Jerry West to kobe sad

Cc A40.
hmm
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:53am On Jan 29, 2020
Kholiwe:

A rapist angry angry. HELL NO
Did he rape you?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:35am On Jan 29, 2020
Kholiwe:

A rapist angry angry. HELL NO
You people have come again. Someone who was acquitted and all charges dropped. Did he rape you or your family members?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:32pm On Jan 29, 2020
Kholiwe:

A rapist angry angry. HELL NO

Shut up. Fake outrage people moving their mouth Cho Cho Cho.

That lady was found with 2 other men's semên deposited in the 15 hours after she claimed Kobe raped her.

If someone rape you, will you go fück 2 other men in the next 15 hours?

The lady dropped her case because she said she knew she had little chance of winning.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 12:43pm On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


Cuntay spent a quarter of a billion in 1 season to finish 5th and get sacked

Now he has accumulated 15 new players in 1 season

List the players with their ages.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:21pm On Jan 29, 2020
Kholiwe:

A rapist angry angry. HELL NO

The girl was a fuckaholic with mental health issues.
There was fornication and adultery, but there wasn’t rape.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:29pm On Jan 29, 2020
diggz:


List the players with their ages.

So their ages stopped them from being football players?

Abi Cuntay no sabi dem age when he dey buy 15 players in a season

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:31pm On Jan 29, 2020
airmark:


Why are you running away from Klopp? grin

Pep and Klopp have played the same league for 5 seasons

Pep has topped him in all 5.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:34pm On Jan 29, 2020
hensben:
Although, I don’t like Mou’s tactics but his achievement>> pep’s achievement due to the way the former achieved his. Conte is a good coach too, he has been unfortunate not to coach a team with Arabu money like Pep.

Conte coached Juventus the maximum ruler in Italy, he coached Chelsea with Russian money where he spent almost 300m a season and finished 5th

Mourinho has coached teams like Chelsea financed with Russian billions, coached Man utd the richest club in the world, coached Madrid the biggest club in the world

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:39pm On Jan 29, 2020
LegoxMetahuman:
if conte took over man utd today and they won 3 straight titles you will tell us how they won 13 epl before abi?

where were juventus on the table before conte took over? who made juventus dominant in the last decade in italy?



lastly explain to us how a single manager spent close to 1biilion dollars but couldn't get past quarter freaking final of ucl grin
let's not forget this 1 billion dollar spending manager is the supposed "best manager in the history world"


Man utd were in top division for 7yrs and did not win a league

Juventus won the league in 2006, forcefully relegated they came back with a squad of world cup winners like Buffon DelPiero Pirlo Chiellini etc who have all won multiple titles before and won their serie A back

But this same squad adding Tevez Vidal and co when they got to Europe were disgraced out by fvcking Galatasaray his successor made 2 CL finals with the same team

Cuntay did not stop there, he blew 300m in one season to finish 5th and get fired

He didn't stop there, he took an Inter team to crash out to Barcelona B team

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:58pm On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


Pep and Klopp have played the same league for 5 seasons

Pep has topped him in all 5.

Nothing concerns me with local achievements. How many times did each of them reach Ucl final, in those 5 seasons?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:10pm On Jan 29, 2020
Good to see RLC back in training.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 2:44pm On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


Man utd were in top division for 7yrs and did not win a league

Juventus won the league in 2006, forcefully relegated they came back with a squad of world cup winners like Buffon DelPiero Pirlo Chiellini etc who have all won multiple titles before and won their serie A back

But this same squad adding Tevez Vidal and co when they got to Europe were disgraced out by fvcking Galatasaray his successor made 2 CL finals with the same team

Cuntay did not stop there, he blew 300m in one season to finish 5th and get fired

He didn't stop there, he took an Inter team to crash out to Barcelona B team
I agree on this one... Conte failed in Europe

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:00pm On Jan 29, 2020
airmark:


Nothing concerns me with local achievements. How many times did each of them reach Ucl final, in those 5 seasons?

DiMatteo 1 CL final, Cuntay 0 CL final
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LegoxMetahuman: 3:18pm On Jan 29, 2020
raumdeuter:


Man utd were in top division for 7yrs and did not win a league

Juventus won the league in 2006, forcefully relegated they came back with a squad of world cup winners like Buffon DelPiero Pirlo Chiellini etc who have all won multiple titles before and won their serie A back

But this same squad adding Tevez Vidal and co when they got to Europe were disgraced out by fvcking Galatasaray his successor made 2 CL finals with the same team

Cuntay did not stop there, he blew 300m in one season to finish 5th and get fired

He didn't stop there, he took an Inter team to crash out to Barcelona B team
lol oga dribbler.
before conte took over juventus, where were they? how managers did they sack after coming back from relegation before they get conte that took them away from the shadows of inter millan.


everyone knows and agreed conte is local coach and no one is hyping him to be the best manager in history of football like your fraudiola.

what we are asking is what your pep fraudiola aka the best manager in the history of football has been doing in the last 7 or 8 years that he left the shadow of messi to be his own man cheesy
he has spent ridiculous amount of money after leaving messi (more than any manager in the whole wide world in the same period) yet couldnt get to a single final?

i agree conte is local coach, but do you agree guirdiola is a big nonsense hype?

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