alj harem: Crayola, it is Ok

Crayola1:

If you are going to says something and swear by it then you should bring out facts, especially if what you are alleging is very derogatory in nature.

I brought my own.

nagoma: @Sagamite

You will never understand What morality is for the reasons I gave above. Development is different from values. The south may very well be more developed by the current definition of material development. We are talking about moral values and you will agree with me that they differ. Never tell me to shut up because ( a) I will not (b) it is rude and constitute one aspect of the lack of morals with you guys. It is a shame. Some cultures can only support bacteria!!

nagoma: @crayola
Crayola the white man's nigger is back with his whining and new American gutter slangs. Who told you that the primitive tribes of the southeast fought Lugard? They were too eager to collect mirrors and wine bottles in exchange for slaves. Go and read about the battle of Kano 1902 and the reason why it was ( with exeption of the boar wars of SA ) the hardest for the British . Find out why the rare and highest British military honor the - victoria cross - was give for the final occupation of kano. Read about Buhari of Hadejia and the tough time he gave the European invaders. Read about Sultan Attahiru. You belong to food gatherer civilization who suddenly found themselves in the 20th century and so became drug couriers , kidnappers and 419 stars. The fiction you copied From a kidergarten reporter about imagined blood money payment and the niger/ Nigeria border will remain a boring attempt at fiction writing. Everybody in the world knows how criminal Nigerians are. Majority do not know that these are just criminally minded Igbos spoiling our names.

Alusi Okija: EVen Hausa people now are a target for the Yoruba mods on Nairaland. . .

WHY IS THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE?!

Is it because it is Hausa people under attack?!

If the post read "EKITI STATE SEND YOUTH CORPERS TO SERVE AS NURTW AGEBROS" would it make the front page?!!
I suggest u go back 2 okija shrine&do what u know how 2 do best,grinding bones&offering sercrifice 2 ur god,the computer is 2 sophisticated a tool 4 a fetish thing like u.
One Nigeria!!

Stop the marginalization. . .


Free Okija Juju

Alusi Okija: EVen Hausa people now are a target for the Yoruba mods on Nairaland. . .

WHY IS THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE?!

Is it because it is Hausa people under attack?!

If the post read "EKITI STATE SEND YOUTH CORPERS TO SERVE AS NURTW AGEBROS" would it make the front page?!!

One Nigeria!!

Stop the marginalization. . .


Free Okija Juju

Zhul-fiqar:


the difference between Mut'ah or temporary marriage and prostitution can be summarized in one analogy:

thw difference between making profit out of trade and making profit out of usury.God permitted trade but prohibited usury.

if i am to expand forward,mut'ah is not used for material gain in which the woman's body is sold out.in mut'ah marriage the conditions that are present in Islamic marriage also exist.the only difference is that in mut'ah marriage,the couple accept to agree on a time frame for the marriage.those who solicit prostitutes to perform mut'ah marriage are not performing mut'ah marriage.a prostitutes looks to sleep with as many men as possible in the shortest period of time.it is like a taxi service.in mut'ah on the other hand,the woman only sleeps with one man.and after the marriage is dissolved,IDDAH or a waiting period (i think of four months) is observed by the woman before she can enter into another marriage agreement,be it temporary or permanent.during the waiting period,she must not sleep with any man,or else she is committing fornication and in an islamic state she would be punished for that.also,in mut'ah there mahr and dowry and it is a written agreement that is mutually agreed upon.

you can read more about the question of the morality on mut'uah marriage:

http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/mutah/en/chap6.php

you can also read all details about mut'ah marriage,how it is performed,why and evidence of it in the bible:

http://www.mutah.com/

ekt_bear:
The first is the death penalty; the second is the offering
compensation to the relatives of the dead victim, if the relatives accept
(“diya”). The trafficker opts for the second option and obtains an equivalent
of about Naira 3,500,000 (local currency, equivalent to some US $27,000).
The trafficker returns to Nigeria and informs the parents of the trafficked
child that the child died of natural causes. The trafficker pays the parents
about Naira 100,000 an equivalent (about US $775) as the wages of the
child while in Saudi Arabia.

Ejiné: Dayum! You mean in the North, once my wife's TIDDAYZ sag & the nyash cellulite sets in, all I have to is scream "I divorce you, woman!!" and I'm free to go window-shopping for some new bootay? THIS' THE COOLEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY WHOLE LIFE!!

I found out that pros-titutes in hundreds actually provide their services even in the market places in Yaba,Tinubu and other markets in Lagos. The same thing obtains in Benin Enugu , Aba and Onitsha and all these are southern women despite their much hyped education and freedom.

nagoma: @Crayola

Crayola my friend, despite your melancholic disposition i see you as an honest critic who perhaps required just a little more objectivity in his thinking and analysis. I would not bother with the likes of Cyber Thug Sagamite (CTS) who have nothing positive to offer, and I do not blame the dude because you cannot give what you don't have. Crayola I see that you have a genuine feeling for Nigeria and for humanity. I am sure things will improve in Nigeria inspite of NL, at that time my friend Crayola I will invite you to Northern Nigeria because I like your pseuodo-scientific approaach even to mundane commonsense issues. You may even end up with some sociology qualification when you write and tell them in America. By the way, as a friend can I call you Mother Fuucker? No offence meant this is just to make you feel at home with me , I hear that's what you call your close friends in your level of the society in America.
Away from all that, Kano state is right to do what they are doing but only as a stop gap measure , there are more fundamental problems to tackle and everything , almost everything rotates around education for both females and males. The south has enourmous problems of female marginalization as well and I still maintain that pros-titution occurs in all socities including the north , including Kano but is a more acceptable option in the south. I found out that pros-titutes in hundreds actually provide their services even in the market places in Yaba,Tinubu and other markets in Lagos. The same thing obtains in Benin Enugu , Aba and Onitsha and all these are southern women despite their much hyped education and freedom. Around the hotels in Bamako,in ougadougou, in cotonou, in Lusaka , in Dakar and virtually everwhere in Africa are Sothern Nigerian Pros-titutes. Even parents from many well known sothern staates consent to sending their daughters to Europe for this trade. There may be northern pros-titutes in Saudi Arabia , but even there and UAE and Dubai the vast majority of love pedlers are of southern Nigeria extraction.
This stigma about such trade for the unskilled females in the north makes it logical and culturally as well as morally and politically acceptabe to arrange marriages for them as a short term planning measure, especially as I understand other interventions such as training and skill acquisition for family economic improvement are in the plan for both men and women.Remember that clubbing and partying and general and regular social intimate interractions between the sexes are not the rule among people considered respectable in those parts of the north, so match-making does sound logical.
Southern demagues in their illusion feel that they know how to solve northern problems better than the northerners themselves - wrong. just mind the international drug couyriers , the love pedlers, the cyber criminals and the kidnappers and we wll do our best with our own problems. as you perhaps know my greatest ambition is to see a separation North for Northerners and south for southerners. The north can start afresh.

ekt_bear:

Lmao. Islam is a very man-friendly religion. Divorce this easy? The man doesn't lose half of his wealth in the divorce either, I take it?

how human beings with brains send themselves to untimely prison in the name of religion, this country is finished!!

magic pastors on one hand, sharia "hisbah or hisbolla" on the other na so we go take reach where america dey?

jp philips:

how human beings with brains send themselves to untimely prison in the name of religion, this country is finished!!

magic pastors on one hand, sharia "hisbah or hisbolla" on the other na so we go take reach where america dey?

nagoma: But Kano was defeated and the British Commander Leutenant Wallace Duffield Wright ( who later on became BrigadierGeneral Wright) was conferred with the highest British Empire medal for bravery - the Victoria Cross and theKano Expedition( as the British call it) was classified as Battle of Honour , as the British clearly risked defeat.

Wikipedia: Wright was 27 years old, and a lieutenant in the 1st Battalion, The Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment, British Army, employed Northern Nigeria Regiment during the Kano-Sokoto Expedition, in Nigeria when the following deed took place for which he was awarded the VC.

On 26 February 1903 in Nigeria, Lieutenant Wright, with only one other officer and 44 men sustained the determined charges of 1,000 horse and 2,000 foot for two hours and when the enemy, after heavy losses, fell back in good order, Lieutenant Wright continued to follow them until they were in full retreat. The personal example of this officer, as well as his skilful leadership, contributed largely to the brilliant success of the affair.

nagoma: @Crayola

Crayola my friend, despite your melancholic disposition i see you as an honest critic who perhaps required just a little more objectivity in his thinking and analysis. I would not bother with the likes of Cyber Thug Sagamite (CTS) who have nothing positive to offer, and I do not blame the dude because you cannot give what you don't have. Crayola I see that you have a genuine feeling for Nigeria and for humanity. I am sure things will improve in Nigeria inspite of NL, at that time my friend Crayola I will invite you to Northern Nigeria because I like your pseuodo-scientific approaach even to mundane commonsense issues. You may even end up with some sociology qualification when you write and tell them in America. By the way, as a friend can I call you Mother Fuucker? No offence meant this is just to make you feel at home with me , I hear that's what you call your close friends in your level of the society in America.
Away from all that, Kano state is right to do what they are doing but only as a stop gap measure , there are more fundamental problems to tackle and everything , almost everything rotates around education for both females and males. The south has enourmous problems of female marginalization as well and I still maintain that pros-titution occurs in all socities including the north , including Kano but is a more acceptable option in the south. I found out that pros-titutes in hundreds actually provide their services even in the market places in Yaba,Tinubu and other markets in Lagos. The same thing obtains in Benin Enugu , Aba and Onitsha and all these are southern women despite their much hyped education and freedom. Around the hotels in Bamako,in ougadougou, in cotonou, in Lusaka , in Dakar and virtually everwhere in Africa are Sothern Nigerian Pros-titutes. Even parents from many well known sothern staates consent to sending their daughters to Europe for this trade. There may be northern pros-titutes in Saudi Arabia , but even there and UAE and Dubai the vast majority of love pedlers are of southern Nigeria extraction.
This stigma about such trade for the unskilled females in the north makes it logical and culturally as well as morally and politically acceptabe to arrange marriages for them as a short term planning measure, especially as I understand other interventions such as training and skill acquisition for family economic improvement are in the plan for both men and women.Remember that clubbing and partying and general and regular social intimate interractions between the sexes are not the rule among people considered respectable in those parts of the north, so match-making does sound logical.
Southern demagues in their illusion feel that they know how to solve northern problems better than the northerners themselves - wrong. just mind the international drug couyriers , the love pedlers, the cyber criminals and the kidnappers and we wll do our best with our own problems. as you perhaps know my greatest ambition is to see a separation North for Northerners and south for southerners. The north can start afresh.

naijaking1:

Oga Mallam Mother Fuucker, I would have believed you if I didn't know Kano very well. Prostituuution is not called the World's oldest profession for nothing, it's not a southern or northern thing. However, if you say more southerners are being pushed outside our national economic gravy train secondary to many years of northern military dictatorship, then you have a point.
All over the World, you have more Nigerians of southern extraction doing all kinds of jobs, because they have been pushed out of the country in order to give room to you(northern muslims) guys. Don't get confused.
Your concept of north for northerners is very admirable, but you have to define who is a northerner, being sure not to confuse yourself like that marauding rogue or the first Boko Haram we've had-Othman dan Fodio.
Benue Plateau people may not feel belonging to your north.

PhysicsQED:

"Risked defeat"? I don't think so.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Duffield_Wright



I wonder why you would even bring him up.

nagoma:

Crayola was Going on about "the resistance of ibos to British invasion ." Can you give me one detailed example such as the one you quoted about kano? Was there sincerely any organized resistance In the south. I don't expect them to have horsemen perhaps no Igbo man living in 1902-03 had ever seen a horse ( if they saw one they would eat it). How could such people organize any resistance to invasion. You will also need to read history books to know the circumstances around the British Kano expedition.
So there was no risk of defeat and they gave the young man VC ? You think VC is certificate of attendance doled out to any soldier just because he chased fleeing enemy? VC are only won in real and major dangerous combats not for minor resistance. Check out with the Brits.

nagoma:

Crayola was Going on about "the resistance of ibos to British invasion ." Can you give me one detailed example such as the one you quoted about kano? Was there sincerely any organized resistance In the south. I don't expect them to have horsemen perhaps no Igbo man living in 1902-03 had ever seen a horse ( if they saw one they would eat it). How could such people organize any resistance to invasion. You will also need to read history books to know the circumstances around the British Kano expedition.
So there was no risk of defeat and they gave the young man VC ? You think VC is certificate of attendance doled out to any soldier just because he chased fleeing enemy? VC are only won in real and major dangerous combats not for minor resistance. Check out with the Brits.

PhysicsQED:

If you want to make this about north or south or ethnic groups, that's your own business as I'm not going to get involved in that. I'm not here to hold brief for anybody in the south as information (in books and articles) is out there and readily available about what resistance there was and when.

I was just questioning the validity of the claim that they were seriously "at risk of being defeated". I don't think that was the case. Of course with the maxim gun a small number of troops could hold off or defeat a much higher number of troops fighting with more traditional methods but the truth is that British forces did sometimes withdraw if they felt they would lose and in this instance they stood their ground because they knew that they were owning without needing reinforcements.

By the way you're talking about horses and horsemen, but the only reason some groups (Nupe, Igala, Fulani, Oyo, etc.) used horses extensively is because the horses could survive well enough in their areas. In the south where the tsetse fly kills off the horses, they would merely have been items of prestige that would die off quickly. So having horsemen or not is not even particularly relevant.

nagoma: What is the name for a horse in S/E Nigeria ?

Answer; BUSH MEAT ( just like all other animals)

If you want to be more specific. ; " BIG BUSH MEAT".