Onlytruth:

I personally am not trying to appease anyone. Believe me! lol How can an aggrieved party be trying to appease anyone? lol!
My concern is that history must not repeat. I have read enough account of what happened that I have come to understand why A LOT of top Igbo persons distant from any talks of secession. They honestly have not seen smart moves by MASSOB or any other organization so far. What I maintain is that a situation whereby nearly ALL southern groups are allied against Ndigbo is a strategic nightmare which the likes of me would NEVER allow to see the light of day, if I can. My father also told me how Igbo contributed more to the failure of Biafra than even outsiders. That is why I insist that Igwe bu ike should by my motto. If we cannot join a collective effort, all our individual efforts are in vain. If we had not supported Jonathan, at least the first time, it would not be good strategically. I was amongst those who initially opposed him until I started to read from some of our top Igbo politicians, and also did my own introspection. At the end, I saw that we had no choice. In 2015, if the strategic calculus does not change, we will likely support him again. It is called facing reality.

I wish to advise my brothers to tone down their words against these groups because there is no need whatsoever for those words. They should spend more of their energy to get us strategic infrastructure in SE. Our journey begins there.
As it stands now, if those Igbo in government(Anyim Pius, Ngozi Iweala, Stella Odua et al) do not get us those infrastructure, how can anyone even talk of an Igbo nation seceded from Nigeria? Let us start by learning to work together and think for the GROUP rather than self.

bbpreye: But wait first, if we break up. Will it be north and south or niger delta and the rest of ya'll.

Onlytruth:

I personally am not trying to appease anyone. Believe me! lol How can an aggrieved party be trying to appease anyone? lol!
My concern is that history must not repeat. I have read enough account of what happened that I have come to understand why A LOT of top Igbo persons distant from any talks of secession. They honestly have not seen smart moves by MASSOB or any other organization so far. What I maintain is that a situation whereby nearly ALL southern groups are allied against Ndigbo is a strategic nightmare which the likes of me would NEVER allow to see the light of day, if I can. My father also told me how Igbo contributed more to the failure of Biafra than even outsiders. That is why I insist that Igwe bu ike should by my motto. If we cannot join a collective effort, all our individual efforts are in vain. If we had not supported Jonathan, at least the first time, it would not be good strategically. I was amongst those who initially opposed him until I started to read from some of our top Igbo politicians, and also did my own introspection. At the end, I saw that we had no choice. In 2015, if the strategic calculus does not change, we will likely support him again. It is called facing reality.

I wish to advise my brothers to tone down their words against these groups because there is no need whatsoever for those words. They should spend more of their energy to get us strategic infrastructure in SE. Our journey begins there.
As it stands now, if those Igbo in government(Anyim Pius, Ngozi Iweala, Stella Odua et al) do not get us those infrastructure, how can anyone even talk of an Igbo nation seceded from Nigeria? Let us start by learning to work together and think for the GROUP rather than self.

Obiagu1:

Anyone talking about secession is deceiving himself. No group can secede! Nigeria can only crumble and when it does, then new countries will emerge.

Kobojunkie: [size=13pt]Time for a Reality Check.

Nigeria is not going to break up in your lifetimes or that of your children. So instead of lazily dreaming of what you will never see, buck up and face your responsibility and part in this Nation. You do not choose what country you are born in to, however you can help in making the decision for a better future for you and your children, and their children.

If not, you remain nothing but useless bag of flesh to them and their future[/size]

amosy007:

dude why all this hatred?

JEEZ.. Why is igbo always full of hate?

Dede1:

Bros, I honestly believed that political exigencies that contributed to the defeat of Biafra were constructed outside the confines of Nigeria. Have you reasoned aloud the ploy behind the fact that two diametrically opposed political ideologies during the heat of their pinnacle had to join forces to saw off Biafra?

The Ndigbo and their neighbors in eastern region were solidly behind Biafra. I can count on my fingers the number of Ibibio, Efik, Annang, Ogoni, Atama and Ijo who successfully contested both regional and federal election in their ethnic enclave on a platform other than NCNC. One of the best pilots in Biafra was Ijo and unfortunately he died trying to erect the country. One of the best field commanders in Biafra was Ibibio and he died trying to erect the country. There was a young Biafran brigade commander from Sagbama who was bent in recapturing Port Harcourt before the war ended. A group of Okirika people risked being shot to death by smuggling foods and medicine into Biafra.

The seemingly seed of disunity that is perceived among Ndigbo and their neighbors was planted during the war, germinated and nourished since the end of the war. In true honesty, I shall be pained to see a country formed by Ndigbo without Ibibio, Annang, Ogoni and eastern Ijo as part of it. But to avoid being labeled as crude oil usurpers, Ndigbo had the will-power and strength to go it alone. Again, “Igwe bu ike” if they are united and there is basis for unity.

mpumalanga: The Midwesterners took decisions to further their own interest
and igbos should learn from that because any group that want to
survive in nigeria,must be ruthless in going for their own interest.

The pre civil war success of the igbos was the issue and many taught
that getting them out of the way will transfer their success to them
especially the elites from southern nigeria and christian north as at
that time.I supported GEAJ because he is from eastern region not because
of any deceptive alliance and i believe that people that survived the
worst can live with the bad.

After GEAJ,the same people will mock the igbos as people they used
to get what they want because it is natural.

Onlytruth: My brother PointB, i huru ozi m zitere gi?

Obiagu1:

I disagree we had no choice. However, let the new direction open our eyes further at the end of the day and let us see it as it is without the need to spin our way out of it. There is, also, no need to shift the blame to Anyim, Ngozi and co when they only do the bidding of their master; it'll be disingenuous to do so. [/b]In addition, I will not face a reality if the impeding reality is my demise without trying to fight my way out of it.

As for "Igwe bu ike", that's only true when there's a unity of purpose. [b]"Igwe abughi ike" if you and I are fighting for the same thing while I harbour an ulterior motive.

PointB:

Eze OnlyTruth,
A hurum ozi nzitere. Le emailu gi. A sa lam gi.

Obiagu1:

Anyone talking about secession is deceiving himself. No group can secede! Nigeria can only crumble and when it does, then new countries will emerge.

Beaf:

Never doubt that the SS can secede.

Beaf:
Does anyone not find it strange that while the FG was at war with Biafra, the Midwest declared it was neutral? That is a very strange position indeed for a region of a country at war to take.
We were never the enemy of Biafra and have never been. It is time to drop the false accusations which were originated for reasons yet unkown (most likely to cover up the blunder of that invasion); these things do not bode well for cooperation.

ndu_chucks:

In my humble opinion, it is quite dishonest to claim that Midwest declared it was neutral and to imply the Biafran invasion was not justified. The war was between Nigeria and Biafra, and at no time did the Midwest declare that they've ceased to be part of Nigeria. Secondly, as Dede1 stated in one of his posts, when the Federal troops were using the Midwest as military launching pads from which to attack Biafra, no one attempted to kick them out of the Midwest on the account of this so-called neutrality.

Put yourself in the position of the Biafran soldiers and you'll see that they had no choice but to invade the Midwest. That they committed war crimes in the process is another matter entirely. Lets not try to revise history, complete honesty in discussing these matters is critical for the healing process.

Beaf: ^
In the simplest terms, the Midwests declaration of neutrality was a real poke in Nigeria's eye. Where on Earth have you heard of a country at war, yet one of its states declares it is neutral?

You and I know that Dede's claims are a fallacy, I have already pointed out the jumble in dates against events that he presented. Attacks on Biafra came from Lagos until the Midwest invasion, after which the FG recaptured Excravos and began launching attacks from there.

The Midwest too was unhappy, but being made up of minorities was unsure and simply waiting.

Onlytruth:

Beaf just know that ndu_chucks ONLY interest in the story is the accusation of war crimes against Biafran soldiers in the MW incursion. He honestly doesn't care about anything else. His brother Murtala Muhammad committed one of worst war crimes DOCUMENTED during the war, when he lined up [b]thousand[/b]s of men and boys at Asaba and executed them. The crime is well documented, and maybe even the direct commanders are still alive.
He wants to equalize the genocide accusation on both sides.

Beaf: ^
Lol! We have 'kashed' di bushmeat!

Logic Mind:

There you go again shouting like a castrated baboon with no substance.

Did your people fight during the war? Who did they fight?
Was your land used as base for Nigerian military?

Who did we execute exactly. If you want to know about execution, read up on Asaba massacre.

When Biafra went through mid west, Biafran soldiers did not commit any attrocities. Infact after reading what you posted, you should hide your head in shame and regret because most of you would wish that you have your republic of Benin today.

You bastard. A man without country. Biafra gave you a country and you threw it away, gave your women and your oil wells to abokis and you turn around and accuse us of your woes. Ungrateful nicompoops.

NL is full of people praying to their different gods for division and to have their own countries 45 years after Ojukwu started doing it.

Just listen to yourself speak: so there you were minding your own business and being docile and all and all of a sudden in comes muderous biafran troops executing you and giving you a country of your own. Then comes nigeria rexecuting you and taking your country away. And what did you do? did you retaliate? Did you chicken out? Did a an Yoruba r'.ape your ancestress to transfer cowardice and spirit of betrayal to you?

Now let's leave 1967 and come back to 2012. Where are you and what are you? Where are your riches gone to? Who owns you? What hope do your children have? You want bring mouth for igbos. We have always been and always will be better that you.

Cursed is your land
Cursed are your riches for you
Your inheritance is forever passed to strangers (abokis)

I spit on you and all you represent
I spit on your tribe and customs

Ojukwu was wrong to show you people kindness. The next generation of Biafrans are another breed.

remark D: I am glad i read through the thread cause some things i hadbelieved/heard from that Omoiygi guy is wrong. i dont understand why he would make up a fake letter of Ojukwu... i mean, what point is he trying to prove. i respected his website, but now feel cheated. i am glad he was challenged to provide evidence by the NNWDC group...
and Fajuiyi didnt choose to die with Ironsi as has been propagated? Gees, i've believed so many lies

Isawa Elaigwu: On 29th July, Lt Walbe and Major Danjuma were in effective contact at the State House after the change of guards. It was then that both officers walked up to Ironsi, saluted, and brought both Ironsi and Fajuyi downstairs. they were handed over to Lt Walbe(by Major Danjuma) to take charge. Lt Walbe and his troops took the two men to an area of bush at Ibadan where they subjected Ironsi to questions about the January coup and the Northern leaders and officers who died then. From the accounts of those who were there, Ironsi played the part of a very good soldier. Contrary to many publications suggesting that he made confessions, there seem to be no evidence of such confessions.
Similarly there was no evidence that Fajuyi was killed because he interceded for his host or that he refused to 'abandon his guest,' as reported by some publications. He was reported to have been very scared, and had been one of those marked down for elimination. By the time Major Akahan phoned Gowon in Lagos and received instructions to ensure that nothing happened to Ironsi, it was late. Even Major Akahan and Major Danjuma(then at Ibadan) had lost control over their boys.

ACM10:

So with me. I believed a lot of lies for too long. Yoruba writers are not helping matters. They've been the only source of information for far too long. But internet is seriously challengin their strangle-hold on the source of information. Then they turned to the internet to propagate falsehood. Most of them here will be most willin to quote those falsehood online as fact whenever u debates with them. Nowadays, I find it hard to believe any Nigerian history I reads on the web. Below is an excerpt from the book 'Gowon' by J. Isawa Elaigwu. You can find it on page 65.