fellis:

Wait, first of all what was that [M] and [B] you seem to have added to my post?

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Secondly;

You said


Then you contradicted yourself by saying;


See, not all atheists engage in deep critical thinking before deciding to become atheists.
Most atheists are born as atheists, and told by parents that there is no God and after growing up to see no 'logical' proof of any God, decide to stick with atheism.
Some atheists are just rebellious, butt-hurt, cry babies that concluded that God doesn't exist because their prayers were not answered. .
Some atheists are simply atheits cos they cannot fathom how a God can exist and still allow all the evil in the world to happen; they decide that their imagination of how a god should be is not what they get in reality so they jump into atheism.

Inshort there are quite a number of reasons why people become atheists and a lot of these reasons have nothing to do with intelligence.

p.s.
I found the first comic very hilarious.

They are simply cowards!

ghostofsparta:

Are your ancestors from Judah? You better Stop eating Amala and Iyan again because FYI those foods bears strong oriki associated with certain Yoruba deities. What most of you Nigerian Christians don't realise is that you are all worshipping God of the Jews (Yaweh). You all need to leave Yorubaland that you have destroyed. What has Christianity benefited us since the missionaries shoved it down the throats of our fore-fathers. No electricty, bad roads, corruption and poverty. Let those at the government starts swearing upon Shango, Ayilala and Ogun whether there won't be 500% transparency. One corruption-loving commenter says 'I believe in absolute reality' I don't blame him sha.

And if I may ask.....what r u influenced by?
Whats your profession....dont tell me babalawo!
So, God is only meant for the Isrealites.
Who is Karl.....who were his followers?

sauer:
Yes, I have met female atheists. I am particularly struck by their sane reasoning, their desire to know, their openness and above all, their impressive world view. Many women atheists I have met can carry on fantastic conversations on philosophy, music, psychology or other highly specialised fields like anthropology. To find such women is rather rare, but in the end very pleasing. Quite a number of "very religious" Nigerian girls (and unfortunately guys) are often too contented with church, Nollywood, cinemas or pommes frites to give a hoot about the world.
I do sense that it's the female atheists who long to change their environment, to preach understanding to their neighbours in the light of these difficulties we face globally. For me, there is nothing more impressive that a woman who is confident, independent and absolutely sure she's as good as any man. A lot of women claim this, but we all know it's a ruse. But then, many female atheists I know or have met are very much like this; this contrasts sharply with the behaviour of their servile, christianly counterparts.

Sauer dude, it is quite pathetic. And the fact that many religious men are not happy with an intellectually sound woman further discourages women from broadening their knowledge.
It's like they tell themselves, "Hey, don't be too smart, just be adorable/sexy so you don't frighten the men into thinking that you'll oppose their authority after marriage."

sauer:
Well, I sure will criticize whatever warrants it; jonathan, the Nigerian government, Nigerian pastors and churches, the bible, etc. They all have one thing in common: they all aren't helping Nigeria!
There is probably nothing wrong in believing in god as christians would have us do. So, one could at least afford them that. However, there is everything wrong and criminal about believing that those who aren't in the same shoes as you will end up in some imaginary "lake of fire".

And what about if that ''imaginary'' lake of fire is real....whats gonna be ur excuse!

The truth of the matter is that I have 2 options, but you have only 1 option!
No insurance?

sauer:
Good point. This is the chief reason children simply follow the religions of their parents. It's almost an innate action. It bothers me seriously that these children don't even stop for a minute to examine in detail exactly what is being handed to them. The blindness, the follow-follow, the herd mentality, the conformity; all these just stink. Didn't they ever ask questions in class? Yet, if asked, they'd claim they have arrived at their practices by themselves and needed no prodding from their parents. yeah, right!
I hope your book really isn't the communist manifesto

But it wont be ''blindness, follow follow......'' if the child turns out to be an atheist like his/her parent(s)!

shymmex:

@the bolded part

If you're to rid yourself off that - embrace your own inborn spirituality.. We Africans are spiritual beings, but we've been indoctrinated with so much thrash - that we've lost our sense of reasoning...

That's why Africa is as messed up as it is... Religion is our biggest problem - if we can rid ourselves off religion, and embrace our inborn African spirituality - we will find our way in the world again..

Plz, read about the council of Nicea 325A.D - that was the genesis of everything.

What makes u believe ''the council of Nicea 325A.D''....who wrote it?
Tell me, do u believe everything written in the Holy Bible?

queensmith:

god! (or whatever you believe in lol) bless you!
Thats what i've always said, growing up i've wanted to do many things, and the parents will just dismiss it sayin 'no its not good' 'erm why is it not good' 'dont ask me questions' and thats typically the way things are especially back home. Nobody is asking any questions, women don't raise their eyebrows when they are told to 'submit' they just do! People are told they must behave a certain way, nobody says 'what for' they just do! and these people have no have no sense of self. It's very very obvious here on this website, the herd mentality is too much. Nobody seems to want to apply logic to anything (especially if it's to do with religion or tradition) and questioning their beleifs is like you've killed their families!

Even if you are religous you still need to ask questions, you need to consult the bible for yourself and try to understand what the pov of the writer is, whether it applies, whether it's personal. Lets not forget it was human beings like ourselves that wrote the Bible. None of them were perfect.

o and i'm not sure- it was a UCL professors note on Karl Marx's writings, i'll dig the book up somewhere. But I think it's based mostly on the communist manifesto. It also had some of the things he wrote when he was a teen. The book was brilliant, his name is jonathan something i'll find him.

.....but Karl Marx was perfect, that u cant sit down to decipher maybe he was trying to brianwash or not!

ayobase:

And the prayers are being answered.
U wanna expatiate on that logically?

lol, isn't it the person with the answered prayers that needs to logically justify it? Are praying people the only successful people?

fellis:

Mr. ghostofsparta, why are you taking Qur'anic verses out of context to prove your point?
That verse, 'Fight the unbelievers . . . . ' in your second picture was directed to Muslims that were going to engage in a war back then, it is not an instruction for all Muslims to keep following till today. You craftily cherry-picked the verse and didn't bother adding surrounding verses that explain it better.
Take another verse of the Qur'an out of context again and I'll bring a barrage of violent verses from your bible for you, you deceitful crook.

Are you saying, some Quranic verses lose relevance in time and sometimes location? What's the authority for the Quran and what are the rules of interpretation?

This purist guy and his gay buddy sauer are full of shyte...

Atheism will always be a religion in denial - shove your stupid opinions in your arses, your opinions don't count..

Pseudo-European mofos trying to explain knowledge to the black man with an African mind GTFOH!!

ayobase:

And what about if that ''imaginary'' lake of fire is real....whats gonna be ur excuse!

The truth of the matter is that I have 2 options, but you have only 1 option!
No insurance?

If the lake of fire is an afterlife experience, how come living people are aware of it?

shymmex: This purist guy and his gay buddy sauer are full of shyte...

Atheism will always be a religion in denial - shove your stupid opinions in your arses, your opinions don't count..

Pseudo-European mofos trying to explain knowledge to the black man with an African mind GTFOH!!

That doesn't come out right. If atheism is a religion, then its opposite will inevitably be: theism. If theism is a religion, then what will Islam and Christianity be??

Kay 17:

Are you saying, some Quranic verses lose relevance in time and sometimes location?

No

fellis:

No

i don't understand your quote:

it is not an instruction for all Muslims to keep following till today

shymmex: This purist guy and his gay buddy sauer are full of shyte...

Atheism will always be a religion in denial - shove your stupid opinions in your arses, your opinions don't count..

Pseudo-European mofos trying to explain knowledge to the black man with an African mind GTFOH!!

So much maturity on display, I see. You have an "African" mind indeed: completely reflective of the pathetic state of the continent.

On the internet nowadays, when you are unable to offer a decent rebuttal in a debate, just call your opponent "gay" or "f[i]a[/i]g", and voilà! You win.

Modified

Purist:

So much maturity on display, I see. You have an "African" mind indeed: completely reflective of the pathetic state of the continent.

On the internet nowadays, when you are unable to offer a decent rebuttal in a debate, just call your opponent "gay" or "f[i]a[/i]g", and voilà! You win.

It's been a norm among Nigerians that the best form of defence is INSULTS as shown here on Nairaland by certain religionists.

Purist:

So much maturity on display, I see. You have an "African" mind indeed: completely reflective of the pathetic state of the continent.

On the internet nowadays, when you are unable to offer a decent rebuttal in a debate, just call your opponent "gay" or "f[i]a[/i]g", and voilà! You win.

It's a norm among Nigerians that the best form of defence is INSULTS as shown here on Nairaland by certain religionists.

ghostofsparta:


It's been a norm among Nigerians that the best form of defence is INSULTS as shown here on Nairaland by certain religionists.

and also shown by certain atheists :x

Kay 17:

If the lake of fire is an afterlife experience, how come living people are aware of it?

Dear atheist, ignore these confuse lots, leave them to me....their blatant dogmas and doctrines always give me the laugh

fellis:

and also shown by certain atheists :x

Wrong again, no atheist have been insulting. Sauer and LogicMind present logical point deduced from facts and reasoning. Anyway thanks for admitting yours...and em... chew on this picture Mr. Islamist while I bring forth more for your delight and awe

fellis: @kay
What I wrote:


What I meant:
The verse is an instruction that was given to the Muslims during the war they were engaged in, as at the time of its revelation. That instruction is not a rule or commandment for every single Muslim to follow. That verse serves to enlighten Muslims today of the things that happened to the early Muslims. It's not a command for all Muslims.
Hmmmmm. . . . .

Meaning its not relevant for present day muslims, as they didn't partake in the first jihad right?

Where did I say it was not relevant? Argh! Abeg no dey give me work, this man.

fellis: That verse serves to enlighten Muslims today of the things that happened to the early Muslims

It is relevant, it educates one about the happenings in the earlier times of the Religion.

fellis:

Mr. ghostofsparta, why are you taking Qur'anic verses out of context to prove your point?
That verse, 'Fight the unbelievers . . . . ' in your second picture was directed to Muslims that were going to engage in a war back then, it is not an instruction for all Muslims to keep following till today. You craftily cherry-picked the verse and didn't bother adding surrounding verses that explain it better.
Take another verse of the Qur'an out of context again and I'll bring a barrage of violent verses from your bible for you, you deceitful crook.

First of all, I don't support the Bible and don't need you to bring forth barrage of violent verses from the bible since you'll only be attacking yourself simply because they are both the same abrahamic religions bent on violent, deception, fear and control.

I haven't taken that particular verse out of context. See your defence is shallow because if it was directed to Muslims that were going to engage in war BACK THEN, then what relevance does it presence bear been in the Qu'ran? If it's not an instruction for all Muslims to follow till today then don't you think it could motivate Islamic extremism as perpetrated in modern times? Such verse is liable for deliberate mis-interpretation by some ulterior-motivist to instigate jihad and other political agenda.

ghostofsparta:

Wrong again, no atheist have been insulting. Sauer and LogicMind present logical point deduced from facts and reasoning. Anyway thanks for admitting yours

Please explain to me how sauer and Logicmind's behaviour is exactly the same as every single atheist on NL. And explain how their presentation of logical points means they have never insulted anybody.
Anyway, since you can never be able to do what I asked, let me inform you that I have been insulted by an atheist before during an argument. Your sauer and logicmind are not the only atheists on this site.
*Roll eyes emoticon*

ghostofsparta: .....and em... chew on this picture Mr. Islamist while I bring forth more for your delight and awe

Is that the best you can do? Bring unconfirmed pictures from anti-Islamic sites?
You appear to be getting emotional over this discussion and I think I'll take my leave now since I don't know how to argue with emotional people.

ghostofsparta:

I haven't taken that particular verse out of context. See your defence is shallow because if it was directed to Muslims that were going to engage in war BACK THEN, then what relevance does it presence bear been in the Qu'ran? If it's not an instruction for all Muslims to follow till today then don't you think it could motivate Islamic extremism as perpetrated in modern times? Such verse is liable for deliberate mis-interpretation by some ulterior-motivist to instigate jihad and other political agenda.

Good grief how exhasperating.

Purist:

So much maturity on display, I see. You have an "African" mind indeed: completely reflective of the pathetic state of the continent.

On the internet nowadays, when you are unable to offer a decent rebuttal in a debate, just call your opponent "gay" or "f[i]a[/i]g", and voilà! You win.

Of course I won!! Offer a decent rebuttal, when your buddy said I was ranting, huh??..

Imagine someone saying Christianity isn't European, when Jesus was created by the Europeans - and his picture is that of a white male..

Jokers!!

2good:

You seem to be very intolerant and you are as foolish as the Atheist you call fool. Why not marry your church sisters and just shut up. [B]With all the religion and god you people make noise about, what have Nigeria achieved?[/B] You Christian brothers are currently involved in a war with the Muslims in Northern Nigeria and you call neutral people fool. You need to have your head examined.

Don't say that na...at most Christians achieved quick flight ticket to heaven courtesy of incessant killings up north, Bauchi, Jos, etc and recently BH terrorism...jokes apart....Christians at least made corruption, greed and materialism a norm in the Nigeria societies.

You forgot to add that Nigerian...is he senator or legislator that bought a girl from Egypt to be married to him here.

At least Christianity and Islam in Nigerian achieved the best noise pollution in the world courtesy of the best ear deafening speakers.

fellis:
Is that the best you can do? Bring unconfirmed pictures from anti-Islamic sites?

Try ruminating on these ones

fellis:

Good grief how exhasperating.

Am sure you must have watched that video everyone has on their phone wherein some black islamists recited verses from a certain book before beheading a black human being...what does that book look like to you? Book of Kama Sutra abi? Is it Book of Ifa or Ogun that motivates Boko Haram killings in the north? Don't reply me with a political angle abeg...just answer the question?

Okay if you've forgotten the answer....here's a clue

What revealed book is responsible for law such as depicted in the image below:

1. Gynaecologist 101
2. 8thstreetlatinas.com
3. Harem In Islamic World
4. AwuSubilai Nicki Minaj
5. None of the above

^you renamed that 2nd picture wrongly. Fellis is spelt with two els ie fellis and not felis.
@your pics,
every religion has its share of extremists. Christians have pastors that believe in killing child witches, Muslims have crazy rioters that believe in killing those that insult Islam and heavens gate cult had suicidal poison-drinking adherents.
But by all means, continue posting those pictures if its what makes you happy.
Gd nyt bud.

ghostofsparta:

Am sure you must have watched that video everyone has on their phone wherein some black islamists recited verses from a certain book before beheading a black human being...what does that book look like to you? Book of Kama Sutra abi? Is it Book of Ifa or Ogun that motivates Boko Haram killings in the north? Don't reply me with a political angle abeg...just answer the question?

Okay if you've forgotten the answer....here's a clue

What revealed book is responsible for law such as depicted in the image below:

1. Gynaecologist 101
2. 8thstreetlatinas.com
3. Harem In Islamic World
4. AwuSubilai Nicki Minaj
5. None of the above

Your display of bitterness is hard to watch. Good night. For real this time.