Logic Mind:

Nope. Already got loads but Naija babes are the most jesus-freak of all.

Logic Mind:

My wife used to talk like that. Then I became an atheist. Today she is a converted atheist.
People change.

Thugnificent: So if Mark Zuckerberg (a well known atheist) with a current net worth of over $15 billion proposes to you, will you still remember dat ur bible?

ghostofsparta:

If the capabilities of Eshu or Ogun was proven to you, would you still think they don't exist ? ofcourse not in our dimension or realm of existence.

emöfine2:

I believe you took what I said out of context. My indifference isn't fixed or based on the subjective experience of these presented gods (their existence); faith to me is sacrosanct so I would not intentionally mock or disqualify another person’s faith because it doesn't register with my experience or reality (but out of curiosity I will generally ask questions).

My indifference to the presented gods of the various brands is due to my lack of faith in them and my non-inclination towards them – I have no loyalty or affection to any of them - so if the capabilities of certain gods was proven to me in order to validate their existence to me...well it would be futile as I have already underlined where my apathy really comes from.

This mostly arises from my bewilderment as to why god should be partial to particular groups/individuals based on heritage(involuntary) or allegiance(ingratiating) whilst at the same time being credited for creating the whole universe and all its inhabitants. Thus I’m left wondering that the presented god(s) is either biased and/or many have claimed ownership over god(s).

And just for the record I would never encourage anyone to prove their god to me because it’s largely personal.

And I reiterate...I am not an atheist - I only used such language within a context to explain my position towards religion and its governing deities.

Dyt:

abt who den?

Dyt:

abt who den?

ghostofsparta:

Seriously I can't grasp your constructions.

crackhouse: first of all, Mark Zuckerberg is not worth up to $4b let alone $15b. So mind ur figure. Secondly, Mark is not an aetheist, i don't know where u guys get such stupid facts. U just coined a baseless fact and start selling it to people that care to buy. Is" Mark" not a christian name? And why did he do wedding if he's an atheist, because with the wedding, it shows he believe in God's words.

Turbocharged: He is an abomination before God. The bible call him a f.oo.l.

ghostofsparta: Everyone that has ever commented on this otherwise derailed thread knows nothing of what they think they know of. Shymmex talking about Ifa totally got it wrong. Even i who was brought up in it still find it difficult to define in English. Its too wide and extensive. Shymmex narrowing it down to spirituality is just a tip of it. IFA is beyond that...wana tok about spirituality u r bera off wit astral or yoga BS.

Anyway, em...let see our hall of fame before I st@ replying y'all

ATHEIST
Sauer
Logic Mind
Logic Boy


ANTI-ATHEIST/ IFA ENTHUSIAST
Shymmex

RATIONALISTS/FREE THINKER/ATHEIST SYMPATHIZERS
emofine2
Queensmith
michellin89

RELIGIONISTS (THEISTS)
Goldieluks
Cowgurl
Shollypopz

NEO-PAGAN DEIST / HENOTHEISTS / ATHEIST
Ghostofsparta

If u feel wrongfully misplaced, please state and give reason

Lol!

Yeee! 4:04am....off to sleep

2good:

The bible called him fool because the bible is BULLSHIT!!!!!!

Sweetlemon: I can see people here avoided the question I asked earlier. And I ask again. For those of us who call God our father, Can you marry someone who does not recognize, respect, or value someone you call your father?? Can you marry someone who disrespects your father so much that he spells his name with small letter "g", calls him a hoax or a nonentity. Will you marry someone who puts your father down in public? Would you?

Sweetlemon: I can see people here avoided the question I asked earlier. And I ask again. For those of us who call God our father, Can you marry someone who does not recognize, respect, or value someone you call your father?? Can you marry someone who disrespects your father so much that he spells his name with small letter "g", calls him a hoax or a nonentity. Will you marry someone who puts your father down in public? Would you?

Ileke-IdI:



Okay, How do I categorize myself.

I seek religion only when I need it. I still question God's existence, or even if there's a super being. I feel like I should believe and often fears the repercussions of my doubt.

On a typical day, I have to be reminded of "God" because I often forget or I choose not to care. I prefer to see things in a more realistic and a less religious perspective. I mean, the bible is heavily leaded with contradictions and was written by man for man of that particular period.

However, I still acknowledge that there may be a God.

ghostofsparta:

Belive in what is evidential/provable. There is only one true God, not Yaweh, not Allah, those are for the semites whom millions have died on. Believe in OLODUMARE aka AWAMARIDI. It gave us the knowledge of ewe and egbo, it gave us various deities to address each department of life and specific ori. I assume you are Yoruba so do more research about Ifa.

Goldieluks:



That's not true. The Bible is a guideline for humanity to learn and have a place to call home (God's Kingdom)
Don't allow your ignorance deprived you off the great promises of God.

2good:

You call me ignorant for refusing to believe what I was forced to accept as a child? You have brain to reason so i'll advice you to use it. What if I tell you that the Jewish Torah or the Quran is the true book of god and not the bible what would you say? Your parent and family indoctrinated you to believe what you believe so stop talking like you have absolute fact to buttress your believes.

crackhouse: first of all, Mark Zuckerberg is not worth up to $4b let alone $15b. So mind ur figure. Secondly, Mark is not an aetheist, i don't know where u guys get such stupid facts. U just coined a baseless fact and start selling it to people that care to buy. Is" Mark" not a christian name? And why did he do wedding if he's an atheist, because with the wedding, it shows he believe in God's words.

Goldieluks:


Right my parents instilled christainity in me,and I have searched the book myself and
my conscience agrees with the 'word'. So what are we talking about here? Go ahead and do
whatever your conscience agrees with and stop sounding as if one is being brain washed.
However, it is wrong for you to say the bible is 'bull###' just cause you do not believe in it.

Ileke-IdI:



Okay, How do I categorize myself.

I seek religion only when I need it. I still question God's existence, or even if there's a super being. I feel like I should believe and often fears the repercussions of my doubt.

On a typical day, I have to be reminded of "God" because I often forget or I choose not to care. I prefer to see things in a more realistic and a less religious perspective. I mean, the bible is heavily leaded with contradictions and was written by man for man of that particular period.

However, I still acknowledge that there may be a God.

Logic Mind:

you are suffering from withdrawal symptoms. we all went through it. it is very tough to let go of a belief you have held since childhood. the body reacts against it. the mind goes into a turmoil and the brain becomes confused.
however, if you persist in seeking knowledge and the truth, you will one day, come to the absolute certainty that there is no god.
And that, my sister, is when your life begins.

alpontif: An investment banker will always bet on God existing. what does he have to loose if he doesn't exist?....nothing. What does he have to GAIN if he DOES EXIST?.. a lot,...so an investment banker will hedge this risk....at the end of the day, he comes out a winner IF HE LIVES ACCORDING TO God's laws. Both ways our investment banker wins.

To the atheists in the house, we all know how to use our brains, we all know how to carry out logical analysis and form inferences and deductions based on established premises, what we all don't know how to do is predict what will happen tomorrow with 100% accuracy. It makes sense to protect yourself against what you cannot evaluate. What do you have to loose if You believe God exists and he doesn't? ; worst case scenario you will die permanently,decay and become an organic fertilizer for plant life. That is where it ends. Now what do you have to gain if you believe God doesn't exist..aside from a sense of your own intellectual superiority over your peers in being able to see things ''objectively''..you have nothing to gain, when you die, according to your mindset, you will die permanently and cease to exist in any form whatsoever. But what if God exists? what will you have to loose?: you will loose eternal life, eternal bliss, eternal joy.,and what will you gain? HELL. Will YOU be aware of anything if YOU die permanently?....nope.Will YOU be aware of things if the Christians turn out to be right ? yes, in hell. It is better to err on the side of safety.

We are not all certain, that is why we call it FAITH. it is better to bet on faith and die permanently if God doesn't exist, than to bet against faith and live permanently in hell if it turns out that GOD actually exists.


And that is just looking at the God question from a strictly logical point.

I will like to discuss the spiritual realities of God's power, but logicians do no believe in this and it wouldn't make sense to shine the light to a blind man.

Let us now view the God question from a philosophical angle..will it be in the best interest of man to create a God and Satan concept in order to regulate a world populated by men who are driven by bestial instincts....?..yes. even if God doesn't exist, he needs to be created...

Atheist believe my previous statement is the reason why Humans believe in a God.

Do what works for you, but always hedge your investments.

shymmex:

If there is no evidence, will there be a 'direction' in the first place? The truth is that we can't take the God concept away from everything we do.. It's basically the essence of our presence on this planet.. Our conscience and intuition guide everything we do - that's where the supernatural realm takes place..

Logic Mind:

Typical.
Your belief is based on FEAR of the unknown.
I once reasoned like you untile I widened my scope and shed my life of fear.
Have you actually considered this concept of hell? Almost anything you put in fire will burn and melt or turn to ashes or evaporate etc. Nothing lasts forever in fire.
Have you considered the concept of eternity in heaven? Try to do one thing that pleases you over and over again for a few hours, then think of doing that non-stop.

Anyway, take your Pascal's Wager to the gullible and feeble minded. Life's too short to waste thinking about a cowardly hiding god.