FXKing2012:

If u say the Bible is not perfect then u say God is not perfect. You can not separate God from his Word, so the Bible is 100% perfect.

logicboy01:


There is no God. Not one evidence for god.

Judaism was not even the first religion, so stop spouting ignorant BS

druid06:

What chapters where removed if you care to explain?.

jcross19: my. Brother don't frustration lead you to destruction.okay you are asking evidence right then look at yourself , you are one of the evidence okay check your body think someone you don't know plan your body physiology and your react with your surrounding, let me give one clue about certain plan of a creator okay why do you. Excrete?if you don't, you know the damage . Then look a machine being filled with a gas after combustion it liberate by-product that it's a machine made by human . Then ask who plan all these physiology in your body. Only a fool will.tell me there is no God . Then let ant-God produce his or her oxygen without making use of the existing resources , then I will believe there is no God. Only the frustrated people come out there is no God.

Onliie:

Isaiah 40 vs 22: It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Isaiah 40 vs 22: It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Isaiah 40 vs 22: It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Many people always tell me about the story of Job to strengthen my faith but I think it is a wrong story for faith.

Story of Job
-Job is a wealthy man with a family
-Satan sees this and wants God to test his faith
-God allows Satan to destroy Jobs family
-Job is also given disease
-Job remains faithful despite suffering
-The devil is angry and God is pleased.


Any non-christian that is not blinded by faith can see the obvious problems in this story

1) Satan tempts God. God agrees. This is contrary to what Jesus told Satan in the wilderness. Contradiction

2) God/Satan murders a man's family (children) just to test his faith. For all the christians who agree with this, may the same thing happen to you. "do unto others...". How can this be? Taking innocent lives just because you want to test someone's faith. How would you like it if your children were just killed because someone wants to test your faith?

3) God replaces Job's wealth and family at the end. This is what is wrong with the bible. It sees women and children as properties you can replace. Can someone replace your mother? Can someone else take the place of your children? God allows Satan to murder Job's children and later "blesses" him with other children. Can someone shout allelujah? God is here with replacement children.

4) Biological warfare. Job's case is one of the many cases the Almighty uses disease to inflict suffering on others. When a militant religious group uses disease to kill others, do not be surprised....oh wait

Image123: as usual, logickid showing his illogical frustrations and lack of maturity.

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liar liar, you never had faith to begin with.

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Even kids know that Job was the one been tested here, not God. God knew the answers already, He's omnitoomuch, remember?

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1Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

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Job 42:13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.
Sentiments, this is not a REPLACEMENT in the sense of substitute, exchange or supplant. but a blessing. Guess you would have preferred that Job had no more children in the end to show us that his children are irreplaceable.

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Even the less deceived of your ilk know from the reading, who inflicted suffering and why. It's unfortunate your lord satan has chosen to have you in total delusion.

Nn-a-Nn-a:
[b][/b][s][/s][i][/i]1:20
Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,

1:21
And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.

1:22
In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.

LESEN 1 JOB RETAINED HIS INTEGRITY

Funny isn't it?
Was the Lord here GOD or JESUS?
And Satan joined the party?

To be honest this is one of the most unfortunate stories I've ever read in the bible and I have never gleaned anything spiritual or higher from it (aside from job describing the elements and the power of his god).

It made me wonder if we are mere pawns in an egotistical battle between god and his adversary...their contention was so that it interfered with and affected the life of another and in extension his family, employees, livestock and charities for the duration of their bet. So in essence it was not only the life of one man that was interfered with and I doubt those that were rendered as collateral damage were directly compensated for during the period of their own loss.

And the most absurd part of the story is that in the end Job had another batch of 10 children who were said to be even more beautiful than the last set. Would it even matter if they were not attractive or even less attractive than the last 10?...a child is irreplaceable talkless of ten...that loss cannot be glossed over with beauty.

Albeit I understand that trials may exist to make one stronger or refine their character but the manner in which this was allowed to occur - to prove Job to the devil who was already said to be "perfect" - was pretty callous in my opinion of course.

i wonder if the author of job was actually in heaven to record the conversation between God and Satan.

logicboy01:

I was a catholic for 22 years. I didnt know that you were omnipotent to read my mind and know whether I had faith





Satan doesnt exist.

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You were never born again, in other words, Jesus never knew you, in basic words, you never had faith. satan doesn't exist, but God conveniently exists in your follydom, so that you can talk about Him all year long on nairaland. You need a useful job.

logicboy01:


Evolution.

Read about it before you talk nonsense

Nn-a-Nn-a:
MY ADVICE

learn from job
learn from his wife
learn from his circumstances
learn from his three friends
learn from the Almighty God
learn about satan and finally
learn from the book of job. LEARN i say, not ARGUE! Moreover,

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law(Bible); for they are unprofitable and vain.

3:10
A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;

3:11
Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Delafruita:
dude,you seriously know nothing about the Bible.first off,you need to know that constantine Didnt compile the Bible to spread the gospel,his aim was to use it to control the people and in his own way,entrench peace in his kingdom.if you accept the Bible as perfect then you should accept catholism as been perfect because the catholics compiled the Bible in a selective way.they had a preference for Paul's teachings which aligned more with their aims and objectives.every other teachings were discarded,books were burnt and preachers were executed.you have plenty of catching up to do

logicboy01:

When I talk about God or Satan, it is always hypothetical.


BTW...I had faith. A christian believes in Jesus as his or her saviour. I believed and then I stopped. Who are you to judge who is a christian or not?

You would be the 1st person to claim that Oyedepo/Okotie are christians. Hypocrite

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were you ever a new creature in Christ, were you ever born again? i am very certain that you wasted the first 22years of your life if the answers are negative. You never had faith, you were only born into a religion, you are yet without faith and wasting your life still.

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The two of them, do you think? And of course satan yoined the phatty, you jealous?

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Poor dear. The account of Job is one of hope amidst many sundry lessons
Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
It also teaches that you can always try again, and start again whatever you may have lost.
It teaches that a man's life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses. Job had great character, and he was able to rise above his storm. He was able to maintain his integrity and righteousness in the midst of adversity.
It teaches us not to hold on to the things of this world too much. Many would have lost sanity if a tenth of what happened to Job happened to them, many will be down for life, many more would commit suicide. But if you hold on to God, nothing can really really shake you, as it were.
It teaches us that we are been observed and scored, both by God and the devil. And that not everything that happens just happened. There MAY be some other reason we can always check up.
It humbles us and reminds/instructs us that there are forces and powers greater than us, to whom we answer.

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yes, we are mere pawns as it were. Realise that for your own good. man is often tempted to think highly of himself more than he ought to think. We are local champions, and we need God than we need oxygen.
Isa 40:17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

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Job's calamities only affected him and his. And in the broader perspective, he'll still get to meet his children in paradise, as he often sacrificed and prayed for them. The book of Job is the first book of the Bible chronologically BTW
Job 1:5 And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.

2Sa 12:23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.

Job 42:15 And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
There was no comparison made with Job's first and second set of children. You are the one making this comparison.

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your opinion remains irrelevant in the face of the opinion of the likes of apostle James and other precious brethren who have gleaned strength, faith and hope from the book of Job. Job didn't lose out in the broad view. He had his wife, his friends, his relatives, more possessions than he ever had before the test, and above a hundred more years to boot, with the finest in the land. He was the greatest man in the whole East, this man was the greatest of all the men of the east. A faith champion.'

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Job 42:16 After this lived Job a hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.
Job 42:17 So Job died, being old and full of days.

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The two of them, do you think? And of course satan yoined the phatty, you jealous?


Poor dear. The account of Job is one of hope amidst many sundry lessons
Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
It also teaches that you can always try again, and start again whatever you may have lost.
It teaches that a man's life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses. Job had great character, and he was able to rise above his storm. He was able to maintain his integrity and righteousness in the midst of adversity.
It teaches us not to hold on to the things of this world too much. Many would have lost sanity if a tenth of what happened to Job happened to them, many will be down for life, many more would commit suicide. But if you hold on to God, nothing can really really shake you, as it were.
It teaches us that we are been observed and scored, both by God and the devil. And that not everything that happens just happened. There MAY be some other reason we can always check up.
It humbles us and reminds/instructs us that there are forces and powers greater than us, to whom we answer.


yes, we are mere pawns as it were. Realise that for your own good. man is often tempted to think highly of himself more than he ought to think. We are local champions, and we need God than we need oxygen.
Isa 40:17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Job's calamities only affected him and his. And in the broader perspective, he'll still get to meet his children in paradise, as he often sacrificed and prayed for them. The book of Job is the first book of the Bible chronologically BTW

Job 1:5 And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.

2Sa 12:23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.



Job 42:15 And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
There was no comparison made with Job's first and second set of children. You are the one making this comparison.


your opinion remains irrelevant in the face of the opinion of the likes of apostle James and other precious brethren who have gleaned strength, faith and hope from the book of Job. Job didn't lose out in the broad view. He had his wife, his friends, his relatives, more possessions than he ever had before the test, and above a hundred more years to boot, with the finest in the land. He was the greatest man in the whole East, this man was the greatest of all the men of the east. A faith champion.'
Job 42:16 After this lived Job a hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.
Job 42:17 So Job died, being old and full of days.


Sure, don't you remember? God authored the Bible.

FXKing2012:

This is what books written by atheists and unbelievers who want to discredit the Bible have been teaching you. You all are agents of the devil who try to reduce the Bible into a mere story book, you will all fail. The Bible is a spiritual book and it is the Word of God Almighty - thatz whether you choose to believe it or not. Those who tried it before u have all died and are frying in hell. You are the one who has a lot of catching up to do cos u are so lost.

logicboy01:



Matthew 4:8, "The devil took him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and displayed before him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence...."


This could only be possible of the world is flat.

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were you ever a new creature in Christ, were you ever born again? i am very certain that you wasted the first 22years of your life if the answers are negative. You never had faith, you were only born into a religion, you are yet without faith and wasting your life still.

Onliie:

Logicboy, you are the most illogical boy I've ever come across. Didn't you see "circle of the earth" in my post? It shows that the bible already speaks about the sphericity of the earth before copernicus or galileo discovered it.

musKeeto:
So you are the standard by which being born again is now measured?
How can you claim one 'NEVER' had faith?