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Maynman:
Religion texts has different concepts of their gods.
Allah is different from yahweh and yahweh is different from El and El is different from Zeus, Zeus is different from Odin, yet they are all called GOD.


It seems you are using the monotheism concept and attributes of their god.
The god in bible is yahweh
The god in vedas is brahma
The god in quran is allah.
So are you saying you don’t know if allah, yahweh, zeus and over 1000000 gods can exist or not?
Is that your position?

You lack the definition of “god”, then how did you arrive that it can exist or not.

Ode, a theist says a god (whatever the name) exists and has so-so-and-so attributes, the agnostic asks for a proof, and since such a proof is unavailable, the agnostic takes his position as a skeptic.

The agnostic position is a response to whatever claims about god that the theist makes without a proof.

It seems it will take you years to understand what's simple as 1 plus 1.

Maynman:
When you don’t understand the origin of the word “god” or the meaning you think you are smart.

God is an English word.

God is a Yoruba word. Lols, the fool just got to know the origin of the word God and he's asking stupid questions all about to sound intelligent.

Maynman:
If the agnostic doesn’t know the definition of god, then why is he saying it can exist or not?
Shouldn’t you know what something is before saying it can exist or not?

What if “god” is a marvel character?

Direct your question to Google. A machine (search engine) of low intelligence may be able to cure your stupidity after all.

Maybe they'll have to break your head and stuff knowledge into it when you're too dumb to understand simple things.

The fool is asking a skeptic to define god for him when the concept of God and his attributes are known to all as stated in religious texts.

Asking stupid questions to sound intelligent, but he's only embarrassing himself more and more.

The fool keeps embarrassing himself by not understanding a simple position such as agnosticism.

I don't blame him sha. He's only product of Nigeria's failed education system that churn out so-called graduates lacking in critical thinking skills.

Maynman:
A god is a title not a person.
Which of the gods can exist or not?

Why do you think a thing called “god” has effect on nature, universe or planet.
Why do you think a thing called “god” is more powerful than a bull?

Define what “god” is and it’s attributes.
Are you using the monotheistic definition for “god”?

Keep asking me a silly question. I would ignore your posts henceforth because your stupidity is incurable.

Ode, an agnostic isn't the one to define a god or gods because they don't believe in a god or gods. The theist defines what they mean by a god and the agnostic or skeptic takes his position based on a lack of evidence. Simple.

I don't have the time to engage fools.

Maynman:
God is a title not a person.
The moment an agnostic say they don’t know if any “god” can exist or not, they have already ascertain that a “god” has the ability to exist.

If you're smart you'll have found your answer here, but keep asking me a silly question.

The average stupid African will see something written clearly in black and white and still be asking a silly question because they don't read.

A001:
You asking me this silly question shows you don't know what's called agnosticism.

The earth is approximately 4.6 billion years old, and recorded history doesn't account for even 5% of the planet's age.

There are billions of galaxies and hundreds of billions of planets in the Universe, which is unimaginably big, and scientists haven't explored even 1% of the Universe.

There are natural limits of our abilities as a human; for instance, we can only hear within a narrow range of sound frequencies and see only within a narrow range of frequencies.

There's a vast amount of information and data in our immediate surrounding we're not able to detect and know, just like we're starkly ignorant of things happening in the extrasolar or extraterrestrial worlds.

As a result of these, what the average human know pales in comparison with what they don't know; hence, agnosticism.

A god can exist or not exist; we may never really know for sure due to our limited knowledge of our nature, of our planet, and of the Universe.

That's the agnostic position in simple terms, which is more reasonable than saying with certainty that a god exists (yet the claimant can't provide a concrete proof for such a claim) or doesn't exist.

Maynman:
“God” is an English word.
Which religion original text use “god”? Maybe in the English translation.

Religious people have different deities. A Sango is a god.
Yahweh is a god
Allah is a god.

A god is a title not a person.

I don't know what point you're to prove here. Mr divine light, lols, asking an agnostic to provide a proof for a claim they didn't make.

Maynman:
“when he says the nature of God's existence is unknown.” God is not a person, it’s a TITLE!
Oponu, if the thing is unknown then how do you know its called god and is exist?

Quote the religious text that calls "God" a title and let's see. Religious people don't see God as a title, dumbo. They define God as a supernatural being.

Maynman:
But the religious claims that the theists make of their. Various gods you agnostics already accepted it, they said a thing called god can exist and is a supreme being.
Agnostics say they don’t know if that thing exist or not, then answer me, why do you think that thing has the ability to exist?

Keep embarrassing yourself in public, ode. An agnostic should give you reasons why a god can exist when he says the nature of God's existence is unknown.

Better go back to religion. It's where a rètard like you can thrive.

You're a disgrace to atheism, Mr divine light. Lols. An atheist using the word divine is a big fool.

Workch:
It's not every atheist that is smart.

Some are just following the bandwagon while some are sciolists. Some are just doing atheism because they are looking for reasons to justify their "ungodly" bahavoir.

The most scientific approach to the issue of God is Agnosticism.

Dumb is an understatement for the guy.

Maynman:
You yourself said this earlier “ Agnosticism, atheism, apatheism, and similar positions all exist because of theism.“
We also have monotheism and polytheism.
What I’m saying is the definition of god is different from a monotheist or a polytheist.
A sango worshipper is a theist.
A yahweh worshipper is a theist.
A allah worshipper is a theist.

If you claim “god” is a creator and has all this qualities and attributes, you are taking the monotheist definition.
If that’s so, they tell us the name of the monotheistic god.

Mr agnostic, you claim you don’t know if a god like zeus exist.
Why do you think a god like zeus has the ability to exist.

Stop asking me a silly question. Is everything okay with you?

Can you point to where I said a god means a creator? It seems you're imagining things.

I haven't made any claim about the nature of god on this thread. Religious people make a claim about god; if you're smart, you should know where to direct your question to: It's the claimant that'll substantiate their claim with evidence.

Religious people make the claim; they should provide the evidence for their claim. The agnostic says the claim (god) is unknown simply because the theist hasn't substantiated their claim with a proof.

Only a fool will leave those claiming that something exists with certainty and be asking skeptics a proof for a claim they didn't make.

Workch:
don't argue with a militant Atheist who knows nothing.
He doesn't even under basic science

I can see that clearly now. He's calling basic scientific knowledge "garbage". Empty brain.

Maynman:
Empty!
Base on scientific facts, then tell me, what are the composition of a omnipresent material.

An agnostic claim they don’t know if a god like zeus exist or not.
They should answer why they think a god like zeus can exist.

Lols, I don't have time for a silly argument. As stated earlier, the agnostic position is a response to the "god" position by a theist.

The onus is on the person making the assertion (which is a mere claim) to substantiate their claim with a solid proof.

Don't waste my time with a silly argument, Mr "divine light", one of Nairaland's dumb religionists.

Maynman:
You wrote garbage. You think god is a single person or a thing.
The agnostics should say they don’t if ANY god exist or not.

first start with the origin of the word “god”, what are things that are called “god”?

A god is a deity.

My post is based on key scientific facts, and I know as an ignorant person, those facts are garbage to you.

All this is obviously too much for your low IQ, just like calculus is garbage to a 2-year-old.

Before you engage in this sort of discussion and embarrass yourself in public, first read important books on science, especially Physics.

You clearly don't know the meaning of the word "agnostic". Just like a person can be atheistic to a specific god, you can also be agnostic about a specific god or deity or any or all gods.

Stop typing gibberish with confidence. You're embarrassing yourself.

Maynman:
A god is a deity. Yahweh, allah, ogun, zeus are all gods.
As an agnostic, Why do you think a god like zeus or allah has the ability to exist or not?

Read what I typed again and think about it. I know all this is becoming too much for your intellectual capacity because a smart person will easily grasp these things.

Maynman:
As an agnostic, Why do you think a god like zeus can exist or not?

You asking me this silly question shows you don't know what's called agnosticism.

The earth is approximately 4.6 billion years old, and recorded history doesn't account for even 5% of the planet's age.

There are billions of galaxies and hundreds of billions of planets in the Universe, which is unimaginably big, and scientists haven't explored even 1% of the Universe.

There are natural limits of our abilities as a human; for instance, we can only hear within a narrow range of sound frequencies and see only within a narrow range of frequencies.

There's a vast amount of information and data in our immediate surrounding we're not able to detect and know, just like we're starkly ignorant of things happening in the extrasolar or extraterrestrial worlds.

As a result of these, what the average human know pales in comparison with what they don't know; hence, agnosticism.

A god can exist or not exist; we may never really know for sure due to our limited knowledge of our nature, of our planet, and of the Universe.

That's the agnostic position in simple terms, which is more reasonable than saying with certainty that a god exists (yet the claimant can't provide a concrete proof for such a claim) or doesn't exist.

Maynman:
As an agnostic why do you think a god like zeus has the ability to exist?


Theist don’t claim “god”, they claim different deities. and a deity by definition is a supreme being e.g allah, yahweh, marduk, ogun etc.
Then agnostics should say they don’t know if gods exist or not.
They should also say they don’t know if thanos or any marvel characters exist or not.
Allah and thanos are the same concept.

The reason an agnostics has his position is because of theism.

This is a silly argument. It seems you've reached your limit intellectually because you're not making any sense at all.

You're sounding dumb like religious people.

Agnosticism, atheism, apatheism, and similar positions all exist because of theism.

Maynman:
A god is a deity.
Each religion has his own deity.
Is it yahweh, allah, or the other 1000000 gods.
Atheist rejects all and any gods.

Religion people have different definition of their deities and qualities.
The moment you say god is a creator, that’s a monotheistic definition, then tell us which god? Is it yahweh?

Give me a reference where agnostics unanimously tell you a "god" means a creator. Religious people define "god" in various ways, and "a creator" is one of them.

The agnostic position is a response to the "god" position or claim by theists or religious people, based on their various definitions of a "god".

You don't know what agnosticism is, and if you call agnostics monotheists (as silly as that sounds), that makes atheists theists also.

Maynman:
Agnostics claim they don’t know if god exist or not?
How did come up with the word “god”?
This agnostics still went further and say god is a creator, this are attributes of a monotheistic god.
Atheism is the opposite of theism.
The moment you have anything to do with god(theos) you are already a theist.

If something is unknowable, how did you know it is called “god” and it’s a “creator”?

Your point doesn't make sense at all. Think before you type, not after.

Atheists are also theists then because they also have something to do with a god. If you don't know who or what a god is, how then are you sure he/she/it doesn't exist.

You're just confusing yourself unnecessarily. Religious people have defined what a god is, and the agnostic position simply says that god, as defined by religious people, is unknown based on the natural limitations to the human knowledge.

Maynman:
It’s a metaphor, the word divine comes from divus, in a mythology book.
Did i make any claim that this “divine light” created anything?
Did i say this divine light is omnipresent?

The agnostic position is borrowed from monotheism.
You and your other agnostics are monotheists.

How is agnosticism borrowed from monotheism? What are the rationale behind this notion and the proof?

Is atheism also borrowed from theism?

Agnosticism comes from the Greek word "agnōstos" meaning “unknowable”.

Jodera:
When I mean special, it's not with respect to Lampard, it's with respect to how things are presently.

If he makes top 4 with this squad (which is still possible), then it'll be a platform for better things next season

Top four won't be anything special considering the amount of money spent on the squad. If he achieves it with a team comprising mostly new players from the academy, that'll be special.

If he makes top four and fails to win a trophy this season, critics will always point to the humongous amount spent to achieve it.

That makes it something basic not special for a club like Chelsea.

Maynman:
I think you should give us a complete definition of “god”, you talk about time and space but that’s the only thing scientists can observe now, in the next hundred years there may be other thing apart from time and space, and time and space may just be the least phenomenon.
But if you’ve limited your definition of a god to “time and space”, I hope you’ll be able to be consistent with it and not change those definitions.

Deepsight, why do you think a “god” has the ability to exist?

Agnostics are monotheist that are afraid of religion.

You're the confused one. Your signature says "Divine Light". Mr religionist, can you explain what's divine about the light? Have you seen anything divine and what makes it divine?

Provide concrete proofs. The agnostic position is clear and the monotheistic position is also clear.

If you call one the other, it just shows you don't know what you're arguing about.

Jodera:
Making or competing for top 4 will be special with the situation of things and it'll be for a start.

Then next season he'll have no excuse

Lols, how is that special? Lampard achieved it with lower quality players during the transfer ban.

Unlike Lampard, Potter can buy players so he's in a much better situation.

Chelsea isn't Brighton.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ present a better book with worshipers globally practicing what it said not just a race o but people from all nations practicing it!

The Bible doesn't need anyone's support the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised that He will use His Holy Spirit to gather people who are faithful from all races throughout the earth and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.

Today it's happening live! Isaiah 2:2-4

Ọmọ find any other book with such prediction and let's see how it's fulfilling.

You can cry from today till tomorrow, the true God differs from Satan who is misleading you people that's why He promised that His own worshipers will drop weapons globally while you people will continue killing yourselves! Revelations 6:3-4

Ọmọ no be ṣeré ṣeré Bible is too powerful! Hebrews 4:12

I no get time to read trash. Only a fool proves the claim a book makes using the same book.

You're too dull.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ no let am pain you too much na you wan challenge God's word so relax and chat without insults because you no fit yab pass me i just dey keep my own aside to hit you wella wella.

Of course Islamists brought the religion to them just as Catholics brought churchgoing to our people but the inhabitants of Egypt are the descendants of those who enslaved the Israelites.

I never said Pharaoh started in Bible times because Egypt has been there before the Israelites became a nation and the title of their kings is PHARAOH!

Keep fooling yourself believing nonsense. You've successfully shown that the story of Exodus in the book of lies called the Bible can't be proven to be true.

A book makes a claim, and to prove the same claim, you quote the same book. And you don't know that's the way of fools, sheep that are poor in reasoning.

MaxInDHouse:
Oya go and replace them nah!
For your information their football team still bears Pharaohs till today!

You must be foolish. So the so-called Egyptians in the Bible are Arabs abi. Na pap full that thing you call a brain. Arabs only invaded Egypt in the 7th century and interbred with the native Egyptians.

Maybe it's your Bible that coined the term "pharaoh". The word has been in existence thousands of years before your Bible was plagiarized from older religious texts of pagans.

MaxInDHouse:
If the story of Exodus is false then the Egyptians should have trashed their Qur'an because it also includes the record.
So get your facts right all the nations that had issues with the Israelites wanted to keep only their victories they don't keep their falls unlike the Author of the Bible who made sure that both victory and falls were recorded.

Which Egyptians? You mean the Arabs in the country now? Are those ones the indigenous Egyptian people that built those pyramids and made Egypt one of the oldest civilizations in the world?

You keep making dumb submissions embarrassing yourself further.

Jodera:
Make we see how good Potter is now sha

I don't know what he can achieve this season that will be special. If he makes top 4, Lampard achieved the same with lower quality players.

And expecting the rookie to win UCL is unrealistic as he's not even better than Lampard or Arteta.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and condemn the Qu'ran in Egypt!

All this is obviously too much for your single digit IQ to process so I understand why you must repeat the same tripe over and over again.

MaxInDHouse:
No matter what you say i'm not interested as long as Egyptians admit that there was a Moses, Pharaoh and God's people the rest is STORY! STORY! STORY!!!

Lols, can you see how silly you sound? If a fake story contains the names of real people, that makes the story true?

Yet, the country the story is centered on doesn't have such a history in their records even though the country is known to document key events in their history.

Religious people that have a brain but can't use it to know a fake story from a real one.

MaxInDHouse:
Go to Egypt and condemn the Qu'ran!

Lols, you know what I said is the absolute truth. You've no points to disprove it. Keep engaging in modern paganism and idolatry and be thinking you're any different or better than the adherents of ATR.

MaxInDHouse:
God has a reason for allowing Islam to exist, let the Egyptians claim the story never happen and continue claiming Muhammad is a prophet of God. Muhammad gave them the Qu'ran and in it it was recorded that Pharaoh was fighting against God's people whom he made slaves.
So if you don't believe in the Bible that's another topic not this one you have today!

The same Qur'an that has many parts copied from the Bible, just like the Bible was copied from the religious texts of older religions of pagans such as Mithraism.

The Easter celebration your fellow Christians engage in every year is one of the concepts copied from the older religions of pagans. Others are trinity, Christmas celebration, etc.

There are many other examples. As a JW member, you use the Gregorian calendar with many idolatry elements.

Your religion, just like Islam, is neopaganism.

It's an established fact that relatively newer religions copy the concepts of older religions of pagans.

Keep fooling yourself. Nitwits like you will live their whole life believing a lie.

Stupidity of the highest order.