₦airaland Forum

Theflint1:
Don't cherry pick, read the entire point of what I'm saying.

You're contradicting yourself. Only very few people on the street know those writers you mentioned.

The point is nobel prize awards and similar prestigious awards are not given based on street credibility. Street credibility isn't even one of the requirements.

airmark:
When Buhari said he would speak in the language Biafrans understand, Soyinka blasted him among many other times. But now, because of tackling a reckless talk by Datti, the ill-mannered Obidients descended on him.

Many eyes will fully open after May 29.

Their criticism is misplaced. They're barking the wrong tree. Soyinka has criticized successive governments in Nigeria, and people like him keep our leaders on their toes.

If BAT errs too, WS won't spare him.

It's easy to criticize the government now on social media. But in an era where there was no Internet, Soyinka criticized military governments in Nigeria, was imprisoned for fighting for democracy and justice, and almost got killed.

So if he made some innocuous statements that are not true at his age, it's not something any reasonable person should make a fuss about.

Everyone doesn't have to like or support PO.

Theflint1:
I've read books from Shakespeare, Victor Hugo, Dostoevsky, Gogol, and Tolstoy, some of which were even translated scripts yet I found their works very interesting despite their writings being complex.

Wole Soyinka's works being complex isn't why I don't find them interesting.

Who sabi all these people for street? You dey contradict yourself.

raumdeuter:
A ti ko ife nile, Ifa tin se

See A001 wey hate Tinubu and didn't vote him, but when insults begin reach those he respected, he turned against the Obidients,

This next 4 yrs will be interesting, BATist dont even have to do anything, Obidients will sort themselves out.

They lost almost half of the Yoruba's wey vote Obi in the GRV "I don't think in Yoruba" saga. In all these Obidient thing, which prominent Yoruba never collect is it Awolowo MKO, Fela now Soyinka.

I voted for PO and will do so again. However, I don't follow mobs and don't react emotionally to issues.

The fact that I supported PO, and still support him, doesn't mean I agree with everything other supporters say or their approach to issues.

There are some lines I can never cross while supporting a Nigerian politician.

WS is a highly respected writer who has paid his dues in the fight for democracy in this country, and I feel those people castigating him are merely overreacting and barking the wrong tree.

I've elderly ones at home that criticize PO now and then. That doesn't mean I should start fighting or arguing with them.

Nigerian politicians aren't worth fighting over or for.

raumdeuter:
Alhaji, you don disown your people sharp sharp?

I don't approve the approach of some PO supporters on some issues.

Theflint1:
I'm not disputing the awards the man won which were well deserved, my point is basically is nobody dey really feel the guy for street as per e writing. Wole Soyinka was largely the guy that we were told "Hey, here's a good writer, this is what we think good writing is, and we're giving him an award for that" , and given it was no other but the Nobel Prize body making the proclamation, we went with it, and so it was.

The question you should first ask is, how many people on the street read quality literature? Very few.

So, only those in the literary field would mostly appreciate a genius like WS, not your everyday people.

It's the same reason why only science-savvy people appreciate geniuses like Einstein, Newton, Curie, and co.

So, your inability to appreciate these people doesn't make their works of less quality or less laudable.

It's more as a result of your own limitations.

That name "Soyinka" will live for many centuries after its bearer is long gone, so long this world exists, so long Africa exists.

Ifa was just a man like Soyinka in his time until his great works inspired by Orunmila started making people to refer to him as a god (orisa). Today, the name "Ifa" has lived for thousands of years after its bearer's death and will live for many more centuries to come.

Writing one's name on the sands of time is the dream of every human, and only a tiny majority of humans achieve this great feat.

Theflint1:
Chinua Achebe is arguably the most influential writer in Nigeria's history, practically everyone grew up reading and still read Achebe. His stories were not just interesting, they were incredibly funny and descriptive to the point where you felt like you were right in the story, one of those writers that if you picked their work, just know you'd not drop it until you've read it to the very last word. I probably read A Man of the People like 30 times, the funniest book I ever read and my favourite of all his stories.

Wole Soyinka's style is very technical and I'm sure that's why his appeal was never close to Achebe's despite being a fantastic writer. I'm sure if he never won the Nobel Prize, nobody go really send e book for Naija like that. I sought his books out mainly cause I knew he won the Nobel Prize in Literature for his writings, so naturally assumed they held value...I found them painfully boring though. Abiku was beautiful, read it in SS1 Literature where they compared his version of Abiku to J. P. Clarks'.

Both stars in their own right, although I think without the Nobel Prize, Wole Soyinka's works in literature would long have quietly slipped into obscurity.

Lols, all these shallow Nl arguments. I think without the goals, Messi is just another Ahmed Musa.

Nairaland arguments na comic relief. What made WS win the nobel prize in the first place if not for his works in literature that you said would long have quietly slipped into obscurity?

Those silly obidients just dey waste their time castigating WS on social media.

He has successfully written his name on the sands of time. No amount of social media noise will erase that.

Everyone doesn't have to support your candidate.

When all the social media noises die down, Soyinka will still be the first winner of nobel prize in literature in Africa, a recipient of the Commander of the Order of the Federal Republic (CFR) award, among other prestigious awards.

Apart from the nobel prize, Soyinka has many other awards he won for his great literary works. You must be silly to think you know more about the field than the many experts and literary giants that gave him the awards.

You don't win a nobel prize, the most prestigious award in literature, unless you're the best of the best. It's not won by fluke or sheer luck.

OasisX:


Ẹ̀gbọ́n ń lá ti já de tán.

I just shared the FB post. "Genius" would be exact word for me.

Argue with your keyboard.

Both WS and Achebe are two of Africa's greatest writers. However, WS is arguably the greatest African writer living.

raumdeuter:
Well it depends on whether you want to be realistic or delusional

In my opinion, No one can stop the downward slide of this country not even Obama, there are many factors working against Nigeria and many countries in Africa that goes beyond the person ruling the country

The best one can hope for is to slow down the downward spiral

Many factors like?

Segedinho:
Aptly put.

I think a noble and respected personality has a very important assignment to preserve his/her reputation by being non-sentimental or close to

Buhari-Osibanjo's promises of :
1) soak the land with blood

2) form a parallel government

Are more disastrous or rather treasonous in all aspects than Obi-datti's statements...

Him being mute in such a grave promises and having a remarks on Obi-datti's is actually a recipe for dragging ...

In all....I respect him but I think he was actually too much in a haste to categorised them in an unsuitable phrase

Wole Soyinka has paid his dues. So he deserves to be cut some slack.

Those at the fore-front of criticising and condemning WS should save their energy for the incoming BAT government. They'll need that energy in ample amounts when BAT starts his tenure.

WS is a highly accomplished writer and highly respected figure in society. However, I don't agree with his remarks about obidients demonstrating fascism in their approach to politics.

While it's true some obidients exhibit this attitude, I think the nobel laureate committed a fallacy of hasty generalizion thinking his remarks apply to all the youths that support PO.

Nevertheless, I don't approve the wide criticism his remarks have generated among many PO supporters online, and I have my reservations about the "cancel culture" of the obidient movement.

That's why I've never partaken in it personally.

Would have preferred a more experienced gaffer for these crucial games, not a rookie.

FBS:
Y'all know for me Boli seems to be the problem. The exact reason why I call him Boli until he gets things right.

That aside and unless I am not understanding this well, we are getting a new manager before the end of the season. Yes?

I don't know. It seems that'll be when the season ends.

Lampard will be working with Ashley Cole as caretaker manager. Hopefully, Boli has learned from his mistakes.

His inexperience and rash decisions derailed our progress this season and could affect the next season as well.

"THE STORY OF OYOTUNJI: A YORUBA (West Africa) KINGDOM IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 🇺🇲

Oyotunji African Village is a village located near Sheldon, Beaufort County, South Carolina that was founded by Oba Efuntola Oseijeman Adelabu Adefunmi I in 1970. Oyotunji village is named after the Oyo empire, a pre-colonial Yoruba kingdom lasting from the 1300s until the early 1800s in what is now southwestern Nigeria. The name literally means “O̩yo̩ returns” or “O̩yo̩ rises again” or “O̩yo̩ resurrects” referring to the African Yoruba kingdom of Oyo, now rising in a new form near the South Carolina seashore.

Oyotunji village covers 27 acres (11 ha) and has a Yoruba temple which was moved from Harlem, New York to its present location in 1960. It was originally intended to be located in Savannah, Georgia, but was eventually settled into its current position after disputes with neighbors in Sheldon proper, over drumming and tourists.

HOW OBA EFUNTOLA ADEFUNMI I FOUNDED OYOTUNJI

During the slave trade era, many Africans were taken as slaves abroad. While going, some left with their culture and tradition which they continued within the foreign land where they found themselves. They continued with the culture and tradition of their fathers so as to maintain their identity.

The Yorubas in slavery are among the Africans that maintained their culture in the strange land and it was handed down to their children from generation to generation.

Many of their children, after the abolition of the slave trade, have married children of their former masters thus having children of mixed blood, that notwithstanding, they still carry on with their African culture in the foreign land since most of them cannot trace their root back to Africa.

The Yoruba culture has been one of the prominent and most celebrated one throughout the world till date. In the faraway United States of America, there is a Yoruba community named O̩yo̩tunji African Village. It is located near Sheldon, Beaufort County, South Carolina.

O̩yo̩tunji is regarded as North America’s oldest authentic African village. It was founded in 1970 and is the first intentional community in North America, based on the culture of the Yoruba and Benin tribes of West Africa.

It has survived 51years of sustaining the Yoruba traditional sociology and values in the diaspora. The village is named after the O̩yo̩ Empire, and the name literally means “O̩yo̩ returns” or “O̩yo̩ rises again” or “O̩yo̩ resurrects”. The village occupies 27 acres of land.

O̩yo̩tunji was founded by His Royal Highness O̩ba (King) Waja, O̩funto̩la Oseijeman Adelabu Adefunmi I.

Born Walter Eugene King on October 5, 1928, Oba O̩funto̩la Oseijeman Adelabu Adefunmi I, a Detroit native, began studying Afro-Haitian and ancient Egyptian traditions as a teenager. He was further influenced by his contact with the Katherine Dunham Dance Troupe in New York City at the age of 20, an African American modern dance troupe that drew from many cultures within the African Diaspora.

August 26, 1959, O̩ba Waja became the first African born in America to become fully initiated into the Oris̩a-Vodoo African priesthood by African Cubans in Matanzas, Cuba, and became known as Efuntola Osejiman Adefunmi. After his return to the United States, he formed the Yoruba Temple in Harlem in 1960. The temple, committed to preserving African traditions within an American context, was the cultural and religious forerunner of Oyotunji Village.

He later traveled to Haiti where he discovered more about the Yoruba culture. Armed with a new understanding of the African culture, he found the order of Damballah Hwedo, Ancestor Priests in Harlem New York.

This marked the beginning of the spread of the Yoruba religion and culture among African-Americans. He later founded the Sàngó Temple in New York and incorporated the African Theological Arch Ministry in 1960. The Sàngó Temple was relocated and renamed the Yoruba Temple.

With the rise of black nationalism in the 1960s, King began to envision the construction of a separate African American nation that would institutionalize and commemorate ancestral traditions. In June of 1970, he fulfilled this vision with the creation of Oyotunji African Village.

It was during this time that he also established a new lineage of the priesthood, Orisha Vodoo, to emphasize the tradition’s African roots. Today, over 300 priests have been initiated into this lineage and the African Theological Archministry, founded by Oba O̩funto̩la Oseijeman Adelabu Adefunmi I in 1966, now serves as the umbrella organization for the Village.

To further his knowledge of Yoruba culture, he traveled to Abeokuta in Nigeria in 1972 where he was initiated into the Ifa priesthood by the Oluwo of Ije̩un at Abeokuta, Ogun state, in August of 1972. He was later proclaimed Alase̩ (Oba-King) of the Yoruba of North America at O̩yo̩tunji Village in 1972.

In its early years, Oyotunji Village was home to as many as two hundred people. Today, its residential community consists of few African American families, governed by an oba (king) and the community’s appointed council.

Each family is committed to the teachings of the Yoruba tradition, which include a religious understanding of the world as comprised primarily of the “energies” of the Supreme Being Olodumare, the orisha deities, and the ancestral spirits. This religious world is maintained spiritually through rituals, chants, music, sacrifice, and annual ceremonies.

Oba Efuntola Osejiman Adefunmi passed away on Thursday, February 10th, 2005 at O̩yo̩tunji African Village in Beaufort County, South Carolina. Since Adefunmi’s death in 2005, the village has been led by his son, the fourteenth of twenty-two children of Oba Efuntola Osejiman Adefunmi, till date.

The O̩ba title is referred to as “O̩lo̩yotunji” of O̩yo̩tunji." — FB

At least make Lampard beat Ancelotti first before having any kind of hope of him winning UCL. Lols, Chelsea go dey battle relegation under Lampard.

Na so these clowns go wreck this great club RA built. Na wa o

ItisHi:
who is a better Manager between them. Ain't talking about Chelsea stint.

Overall, I think they're both in the same WhatsApp group. But Lampard was a better coach with us.

ItisHi:
Potter better pass am sef

How? Lampard was a better manager for Chelsea than Potter. But I no want both of them near Chelsea.

These people managing Chelsea na clowns. Dem sack Potter only to appoint his elder brother (Lampard) on an interim basis.

Dey never learn from wetin Lampard use Everton eye see this season. Why not leave Bruno there pending the time they get a quality coach

Poto poto dey reject a relegation-battling team like Leicester when him level na League One. Lols

Even Pep, one of the greatest coaches in the world, lost his first match as Bayern manager against Dortmund (4-2) in the German Super Cup tournament won By Dortmund in 2013 (I'm sure you never start to watch football that time).

But Pep later won trophies with the team in spite of the rocky start.

R.etard dey expect Tuchel to win all him matches for Bayern. Even those that appointed him don't have that unrealistic expectation. Better you follow your Potter to any League One or relegation-battling team he goes because you're a disgrace to Chelsea fans.

Tuchel will win trophies with Bayern.

Most true Chelsea fans faulted the sack of Tuchel, one of the best coaches in the world, for your poto poto.

You sacked a great manager because of a temporary dip in the form, replace am with a rookie, sacked the rookie some months later, and dey find a great manager that's scarce in the market now.

Till now, the club is still playing for that expensive mistake of sacking Tuchel prematurely at the beginning of the season.

A wiser club owner would have simply backed Tuchel during the brief trying period, limit the coach's involvement in the transfer deals where he sucked, and told him to focus solely on managing the team, what he knows to do best.

Even if Tuchel didn't go to Bayern, Potter no be him mate. The gap is very wide.

Sportsweb:
Graham Potter blew his chance at Chelsea. He will be back to Burnley, Nothingham forest level soon

It's a once in a lifetime chance. (Though he's still relatively young and can work his way gradually to the top.)

Ibime:
Receive ball ko, receive ball ni. We are talking of scoring goals, you are talking of receive ball

Every of these ninnies we are parading now receive ball twice as well as Lampard did. How does that translate to goals?

Hopefully, Gallagher gets a chance to play and perform well under a new coach. He did show some flashes of brilliance at the beginning of the season, but it seems the Potter virus derailed him for most of the season just like most of the other players.

popizaino:
Respect yourself and don't quote me again pls.

Lols, this man don vex

popizaino:
I will keep boasting and rub it on all your faces here. I am ahead of most of you when it comes to football.

I kept lamenting how scoring and attack has been our major problem right from Mourinho's time till date and still didn't back out during Tuchel's time. Today everything i said is manifesting before our very eye and you acting as if you knew this all along.

Lols, this is coming from the same person that said Potter is better than Tuchel after just four games.

Lols. We all saw how that played out. Where's Potter now? Lols, and where's Tuchel?

One was recently sacked after just seven months in charge during which he set an unenviable record as the worst manager in Chelsea's history in modern football, while the other is managing one of the biggest clubs in Europe.

Who dey expect Potter's younger brother to win Liverpool before? Bruno no even reach the rookie Potter's level.

If we had won today, it would have been luck with those two useless forwards for front.

As it's now, we never get coach. Bruno never even manage a team before now.