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This is why we need to put more respect on BoaTANK's name. This is the same Messi BoaTANK locked up in the biggest game of all and defanged him

popizaino:
Silva had Aguero,KDB,Balotelli, Dzeko yaya Toure, Nasri wonder why they couldn't help him achieve it in club side football.

Because they are not of the caliber of Spain

popizaino:
You know nothing but yet you wont learn,just because you have gotten a straw (stat) that you want to clutch at,you think you have all the point and know everything. Massa take several seat behind.


Why will you ask me about 2008 UCL semifinals when Xavi himself was playing second fiddle to Deco and Ronaldinho was still in the mix ? There is a reason why specific has been made on 2010 UCl semifinals and you have to find out why before asking pointless question that doesn't relate to whatever is been discussed here.

If I'm to learn it's definitely not from a dullard like you.

Conflating correlation with causation is only highlighting your muppetry.

Unless you can show me where Xavi never lost a Champions League tie with Iniesta on the pitch then your constant hammering on 2010 CL semis is foolishness especially as I have shown Barcelona lost pre Pep, With Pep and Post Pep with Iniesta on the pitch

kendrick93:
Yes.. Debatable..
Would the German defence crumbled under pressure without Hummels?
IMO yes..
Case In point the Algeria vs Germany game...
Boathand was like a headless chicken in that game without Himmels

How did they crumble? They scored one goal in garbage time while being 2 goals down

Crumbling is almost losing to Ghana when Boateng went off at halftime

Ibime:
Are you surprised? Someone that has 2 GA in the three international titles

If someone's team can score over hundred goals in the league in a calendar year, presenting him over 200 opportunities to contribute a GA, and he didn't contribute one, just know he should be prosecuted at The Hague for fraud!

Even the tikitaka XaviEsta possession is a fraud he sneaked himself in. If you check passing stats, you will see he was not involved. That became evident after Xavi exited the stage.

I actually respect Iniesta but these stats are indefensible

How can you come here and be hyping someone that played in 2 Euros did not score a single goal.

This man scored double digit goals just once his entire career. That is atrocious

Went full calendar year without a goal or assist. Just doing cardio on the pitch

Like I said no serious team will rely on Iniesta's poor production and hope to survive. You must have all time attacking phenoms like Eto'o, Messi, Neymar Suarez at club level and guys like Villa and Torres for country. Either that or your midfielders are prolific. Iniesta is just there for dribbles and vibes

popizaino:
He had no Ronaldinho/Eto/Henry/Neymar/Messi at country side and won it all without them and even achieving best player along. Must be some sort of mystery yet to be unravel.

It's easy when you have Alonso, Villa, Torres, Xavi, Silva, Fabregas

Ohh what a luxury to go to the Euros score 0 goals and 0 assists and still go home with two trophies

popizaino:
Iniesta is been regarded as El Cerebro (The Brain),behind whatever puzzle you're trying to put together. EOD.

If you like call him El Cuntellebro. All we know is he was surrounded by players that helped him carry the load for Spain and Barcelona

popizaino:
The only person making a weak argument here is you.Everyone knows the era of xavi and iniesta dominance came immediately Pep Guardiola took over and it is when the world over started talking about xavi iniesta and I have been also consistent in making my point around this period so miss me with your weak argument shit. If I want to answer you kindly iniesta played in a different set up against man United in 2008. So look for another point, Xavi's role as remained the same. Now back to why xavi without iniesta couldn't make it past inter Milan?

You're yarnin dust. Was Pep also manager for Spain? Is it not Aragones that composed the formula Pep went ahead to implement in Barcelona

If we are going by your malaria argument then nobody has any business bringing up Iniesta and his paltry contributions outside of Xavi after Pep left

Didn't Iniesta play in 2012? Why didn't they make it past Chelsea?

Anyway all your arguments are pointless. Whether with Pep whether outside Pep Iniesta has been dumped out severally

popizaino:
It is the same reason why he has 2Euros,2x UCL as your Muller with better goal scoring records. As appeared on the podium why your Muller goes missing.


Next......

That is because he is the Greatest passenger of all time. Holy shit

Can you believe this joker did not score a single goal in both Euro triumphs. The deeper I dig the worse it is for your boy

You think if Muller had Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Silva, Villa, Fabregas, Torres, Xavi carrying him for club and country he wouldn't have 2 Euros and 4 CLs

popizaino:
Yesterday it was Xavi/iniesta that made Busquet thick,today is Xavi making iniesta think.


Fix yourself


If all this mattered for Thomas muller his stats should have helped Germany win the Euro abi no be by stats alone ?

Xavi is the most crucial piece to the puzzle. Busquets is the least important component. What is so difficult to understand there?

If Muller had Xavi, David Villa, David Silva, Fabregas and Torres that will carry his 0 goals and 0 assists self then Germany would have won Euros as well

popizaino:
And when they were not on the pitch the same time earlier that same year at the same stage of the competition what happened to Xavi?

Stop repeating this weak argument. The more you repeat it the duller you sound

Iniesta was on the pitch 2008 they lost to United

Iniesta was on the pitch 2013 they lost to Bayern

Iniesta was on the pitch 2013 they lost to Atletico

Passenger with no impact. That was why Barcelona had to buy Suarez the next season

popizaino:
Smh!


The only thing embarrassing is that you have Thomas Muller in your team who is also an AM with impressive stats but can't match Andres iniesta despite his iniesta embarrassing stats. He has never been on the podium with the world best like iniesta,neither has he won Euro like iniesta or has ever won MOTM awards when the stake were at the highest like iniesta but some how we wish to diminish the image of iniesta here. The italy that knocked your Muller out in 2012 Euro was the same one iniesta outclassed in the finals to not only win the MOTM award but tournament best player. Sit this one out iniesta's stats are embarrassment look for the world embarrassment elsewhere .

Shameless. Thomas Muller was actually the best player on a World Cup winning team not a bus rider like Eunuch Iniesta.

Prime Thomas Muller was carrying the load of creating and scoring for Germany.

Did it as a 20 year old 5 goals and 3 assists

Did it as a 24 year old 5 goals and 3 assists

Stop making noise about a notorious passenger like Iniesta that had Xavi and Villa doing the heavy lifting for him

Let me see that team that can rely on Iniesta to score and assist whether them no go relegate

Polling booth player. Spain outclassed Italy but Iniesta was not involved in a single goal or assist.

This man played 6 games did not provide a single goal and assist and you're talking MOTM and polling booth awards. While other players were doing the heavy lifting

popizaino:
Like the corner aided assists to Carlos puyol for his goal against Germany right?

I wonder why he couldn't assist Zlatan Ibrahimovic, puyol and others without iniesta in the same stage of a different competition in the same year.

Truth can not be hidden for long.

Shameless.

Whose fault that Iniesta cannot spray corner kicks. See as e dey talk am like say ability to deliver quality corner kicks aren't a skill

What is Iniesta actually good at? Can't dribble like Messi, can't score at a high rate, can't assist at a high rate. That's why he's putting up Center Back numbers as an AM

Why didn't same Iniesta help Barcelona beat United, why didn't Iniesta prevent Barcelona from collecting at the hands of my club in 2013. Since Barcelona never lose in Iniesta's presence

Ibime:
Hush your agenda

Xavi assisted every goal Spain scored from 2nd round to get to final

No one cares about your Eden Hazard-lite entertaining himself on the left wing with shakushaku

Lmaoo. The man is drunk.

This is what happens when you cannot parse correlation from causation. You start shooting yourself in the foot. This nigga was trying to give Iniesta credit for his usual 0 goals and 0 assists ahead of Xavi that was doing the creative heavy lifting just cause they happened to be on the pitch at the same time

This is one of the evils of narratives and polling booth awards. Iniesta won Euro Player of the tournament with 0 goals and 0 assists the entire competition. Xavi had 2 assists in the Finals and somehow the award landed in Iniesta's laps

Finally it's taken this World Cup for people's eyes to open, even the staunchest defenders cannot deny the fraudulence of these polling booth awards anymore

popizaino:
Stop this show of shame bro.


You have answered yourself with your stats. Lampard and Gerrard stats should have easily given them an appearance in a semifinals with three lions since it's about stats abi now ?


Is Fabregas not iniesta's contemporary again? Why was is superior stats than iniesta not bee the reason why you could tell us he was better than iniesta ?

What's my business with Lampard and Gerrard. Where do you see me promoting EPL players? Ahead of their Spanish and German counterparts

There is no angle you can use to justify Iniesta's shameful lack of production

You're just bulababulabaluing all over the thread. Iniesta is a Scottie Pippen type player. He's a Robin to Xavi's Batman. Simple and plain

The deeper you dig the more embarrassing it gets for Iniesta. This man scored 70 goals in almost 800 appearances combined for Spain and Barcelona. 70 goals as an AM

popizaino:
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Bitter leaf soup is ready,you all should come out and use the same energy to dissect this stats the way you did on iniesta.

Why you dey include my @ what does this have to do with Iniesta's poverty numbers.

57 goals in almost 700 apps for an AM is disgusting. No matter how you spin it

popizaino:
So where did i mention 2005 with you?

You have not said anything here bro.

You don dey deny your own comments. Shior

Didn't you list 05/06 and 14/15 as seasons Iniesta succeeded without Xavi. Shior

4 goals in 92 appearances.

kendrick93:
Yeah they won the CL in the 90s.. So?
They were a midtable club in in the 2000s, riddled with debts before klopp transformed their fortunes.
Boateng was a carry along in both of CL wins..
Never made team of the year in either.
Dante in 2013 was better..
Alaba a makeshift CB in 2020 was better also.

So they're still a big club. Arsenal, United are clubs that have struggled in the recent past. Doesn't mean they are not big clubs. Dortmund have always been a big club. A couple of mid table finishes don't change that

Lmao at carry along. Just 1 year later we saw what happened to Dante without BoaTANK's guidance and protection. Tasked with leading on his own even with an experienced defender like David Lulz it was international disgrace on his home soil the likes of which we might never see again

While BoaTANK on the other side was marching to another title.

Alaba has been playing at CB since the days of Pep. I don't understand your makeshift yarns.

popizaino:
Should we move to Fabregas and Xavi? Lampard/Gerrard and zidane ? Fabregas and modric ?

Why are you moving? Why are you embarrassed to compare Iniesta's number to his contemporaries?

No sane person will entertain a Lampard Gerrard comparison to Zidane

But nothing still excuses Iniesta's poverty production

Zidane International caps
108 apps and 31 goals

Gerrard
114 caps and 21 goals

Lampard
106 caps and 29 goals

Iniesta
131 caps and 13 goals

Poverty all the way. This man spent 16 years at Barca and scored 35 goals

The lack of production is shocking.

Xavi played deeper and still somehow managed to score and assist more than Iniesta. This is inexcusable

popizaino:
Greatest Spanish player of all time.


Next........

Iniesta will slap you for disrespecting his Boss

popizaino:
And so fucking true. Deal with it.

That should easily tells you is impact in the game than your mere imaginary stats that doesnt speak the whole volume.

Iniesta was there when they lost in 2008 so was Xavi but not iniesta wasn't there when they lost in 2010.

Shame no go gree you to post his stats.

What were his contributions? Post am if e sure for you. Stop giving us imaginary megedefegede. What were his tangible contributions. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't

That's how you were shamelessly mentioning 05/06 and 14/15 season seasons he dropped poverty and disgraceful numbers

Ohh. So Iniesta was there and they still lost? I thought Barcelona were unbeatable whenever Iniesta played. This throws your entire argument inside dustbin then. Since we have proof Barcelona lose even with Iniesta

kendrick93:
Hummels won two Bundesliga titles with a non facied club Dortmund without boating by his side.
So what are you saying?

Dortmund non fancied? Better go and check their history

Anyway the point still stands BoaTANK won two Champions Leagues without Hummels but Hummels has won 0 Champions Leagues

Almajirihunter:
Kovacic things

His numbers for an AM are actually disgraceful. Imagine my shock finding out Xavi who plays 20m deeper than Iniesta is still able to contribute more goals and assists than him.

4 goals in 92 appearances. This was his big contribution without Xavi

popizaino:



He was runners up in the world championship level a feat xavi never achieved even in the regional level. Show us Xavi's achievements in regional level also

2 is not a winner and 3 nobody remembers. Give up this your weak argument

Xavi was World Champion. Iniesta

popizaino:
You busted nothing,stop fighting evidences in front of you.


Iniesta 55games unbeaten
Messi 48games unbeaten


Xavi what?


Go and meet ibime,afrodoc,izzou,airmark and join heads together to come up with why Xavi lost UCL semifinals to inter Milan without iniesta before anything.

Which kin poverty and malaria argument is this? 55 games unbeaten. Ansofokwat?? What was his contributions to that record. I dare you to post his stats in that timeframe

This is someone that went a full year without goal or assist. I actually like Iniesta so don't let me expose him more than this

Didn't Iniesta play in 2008 when they lost to United? Why didn't they win since apparently Barcelona never lose with Iniesta on the pitch. Mschewwww

popizaino:
Why did xavi not win U-17 and U-19 also like iniesta not even silver on Bronze medal in this tournaments.


Iniesta conquered this two and still went on to be runners up in U-20.


Next excuse......

Why should he win U17 and U19 regional trophy when he can win U20 World Cup trophy

Are you hearing yourself at all?

Xavi Hernandez can call himself World Champion at senior and youth level. Iniesta never managed the same so rest with your weak defense

popizaino:
U-17 and U -19 say hi.

He won a World title?

popizaino:
You want to start getting ahead of yourself



Tell us what happened in 2010 UCL semifinals with Xavi without iniesta ? We know iniesta has been producing pedestrian contributions to Barcelona success ?

What are you on about? Iniesta never lost while playing with and without Xavi?

Tell me the season Iniesta carried Barcelona and was their single focal point on attack

I have burst your bubble on Iniesta's mythical success without Xavi showing you he was a passenger of the highest degree.

4 goals in 92 combined appearances nigga I can divide. That's 1 goal every 23 average and that's LAAAAME!!

Each of those seasons I can list 5 players more critical to Barca's success than Iniesta

popizaino:
U-19 and U-17.

Wey him World title like his boss Xavi?

popizaino:
He was runner up in U-20.


Won Gold medal in U-16 and U17 respectively.

Gold medal in what level? At world level?

All I see here is he didn't win any World tournament like Xavi did at U20 which holds more weight than U17 or U16 regional titles

I watched that England vs France again and my God Upamecano is such a shocking defender.

Easily could have cost France that game. This guy defends like a zombie at times it's unreal