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steady986:
When you want to use statistics to describe a player, it's best you use it fully. All of KCP's career he's been a starter. He's averaging 10ppg this season because his minutes has greatly diminished, coming off the bench for 23 mins pg down from 33 mins pg last year. He averaged 13 ppg last year and the year before. Now, if you're a good mathematician, you'll know that 10ppg in 23 mins is an improvement on 13ppg in 33 mins.

How many shots is he taking per game? That's what you should be looking at not the minutes. Unless there is a sharp drop in the number of shots he is taking then your argument is not accurate. If he's playing 48 minutes and taking the same number of shots as he did in 23 mins then same ni

YulisCromwell:
Actually there have been rumours of magic wanting walton out long before lebron came. After Blatt got sacked the cavs won a chip and went to 3 straight finals. Try again small fry.

Ohh. You're a believer in rumours now? Magic has no personal beef with Luke. Stop it

Of course Blatt is to blame for Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving getting hurt.

YulisCromwell:
Whatever you want to call it, stop blaming lebron for pauls failings.

Like I said Paul cannot unclench his buttcheeks without LeNomad's blessings. Make of that what you will but don't make it sound like he was self-made

YulisCromwell:
If he was bad at his job not even lebrons influence will let players trust him with thier careers.

I might not be a fan of LeNomad but his influence is undeniable. He is really revered especially by His younger colleagues

YulisCromwell:
and they would be 5 games under if they were still six games under. Lberons injury left them worse off period.

Stop focusing on the irrelevant BS and focus on the fact that the Lakers had 31 games to get back in the playoffs. They were only 2 games behind.

It would have been better if he stayed injured. There is no excuse that can indemnify LeNomad for this disaster of a season

YulisCromwell:
As at february with lebron on the court

KCP: 39.8% on 7.2 attempts
Hart: 39.3% on 5.2 attempts
Kuzma: 34.5% on 6.4 attempts

Can you stop with the drivel now?

LMAO are you some type of comedian? We're talking an entire season you're bringing up a month?

Kuzma shot at 37% from 3 last season sans LeNomad and you're talking of February where he shot a poverty 34%.

YulisCromwell:
LOL Exactly, imagine me running for president then that short creep donlittle25 brings up all the messed up racist sh-t i've said on this forum and i get cancelled. No way jose canseco. Short people cant be trusted, bare facts.

#facepalm

steady986:
I'll remind you their record before his injury, 20-14.

What of their record when he returned?

YulisCromwell:
David blatt still hasnt found a job in the NBA, Mike Brown is an assistant coach, Luke Walton has been on the axe before lebron came because magic didnt hire him. These are the people you are using as examples

Poor chap he's probably scarred for life. Wrong job, wrong time and his career in the NBA dead before it began.

Is this Magic's first season?

Luke Walton was perfectly safe and there were no rumors about his coaching safety till LeCoach Killer showed up. Magic trying to get him sacked now is Magic's way of covering his own behind for the spectacular failure the Lakers have been

YulisCromwell:
LOL Then players like AD Wall Simmons etc wouldnt sign for him knowing that. He Effd up the lakers chemistry, a move im sure lebron would have preferred to remain quiet, so how exactly is he under lebrons spell? He owes him a lot but Rich paul takes care of his business and thats why hes a super agent now, lebron can only take you so far.

Lmaooo. It was a rookie move, the type amateur agents play when they don't recognize their hand. You can't be dropping such announcements with a full year and a half on your client's contract. Not recognizing where you have leverage and where you don't is not a sign of a great agent

I'm telling you all of Rich Paul's contacts he owes to LeNomad's influence. Without him who on earth is Rich Paul? How does he even get in the door

YulisCromwell:
Actually the NBA does and will fine him for missing games. I'm sure he doesnt care what you think.

He could sit for Load management or they concoct some other phony injury like the Pelicans are doing with Anthony Davis currently, the league will do zilch

YulisCromwell:
Fantastic or not it was a much better position than when he returned. If they were six games above 500 when he got back theyd still be in playoff contention now.

You're in La-la land. They were 2 games over .500 when he got back. They are 9 games under .500 now. That's the reality not your Alice in Wonderland example there

YulisCromwell:
How can you use his season stats when lebron didnt play for a good number of the total games and his averages in the game lebron played are higher

Tell us his averages! LeNomad has featured in 54 games. That is a 71percent appearance. Enough to make an informed argument. You also have to show how many assists was directly responsible for to KCP

YulisCromwell:
If it were just KCP Itd be vague but its same for kuzma hart javale etc too so its pretty friggin clear.

Will you kip chut!!!

Kuzma is arguably the worst volume 3pt shooter in the league as we speak. From 36% last season sans LeNomad to 30% with him. Can't even be arsed to talk about non-factors like Josh Hart

YulisCromwell:
LOL! What talk? why will i tell you barmy lot where im studying when i know theres a price on my head? who do you think i am? donlittle?

Lmaooooo man you stay capping. Price on who's head? Are you Buhari's first son? If I give you flying nodding like Agali

YulisCromwell:
Like you when you pick out a losing streak and assume thats how it will play out all season

That losing streak brought out the most definitive outcome. With the playoffs on the line the Lakers played their worst basketball. End of story

YulisCromwell:
But Griffin has never said anything bad about lebron and vice versa. Literally everyone in the know from players to gms have refuted this poppycock yet you sit in your beer parlour and create false narratives. There are many GMs in the league who dont get along with lebron, he may be powerful but hes not powerful stop making up stuff.

You're the one bringing out Griffin. Where did I say he had anything bad to say about LeNomad. I've named the people who had issues with LeNomad. I'd bet even Luke Walton would be cursing the day he signed for the Lakers

YulisCromwell:
Does that mean lebron runs klutch sports and is in charge of all their decisions? a 5 year old has a better thought process than these wild theories you're throwing about.

Later you would be chatting megedefegede about IQ. He's an active player so by the book he's not supposed to be actively running the agency. But if you think Rich Paul gets to unclench his buttcheeks without LeNomad's permission then you must be sniffing something fanger

YulisCromwell:
He literally just explained that part of the reason he plays is because the NBA has been on him about missing games. He misses games you lot complain that hes cheating fans who pay, he plays hes stat padding. WTF

Nobody cares why he's playing or why he's not playing. He can shut down for the year for all I care! I had the Lakers missing the playoffs anyway so I could care less what he puts up in meaningless games

YulisCromwell:
Why were they in that position in the first place? Him returning doesnt mean the team was the same as it was before he went down.

Nobody gives a shit! They were 2 games ahead of 10th seed before he got hurt. Don't sit there and act like they were in a fantastic position

If the Lakers were in the weaker East perhaps they are still in playoff contention

YulisCromwell:
This guy doesnt understand how double teaming creates opportunities for shooters and im the one chatting nonsense.


This dude brings out statistical outliers instead of averages to prove a point and im the one chatting nonsense. Do streaky or not do shooters have better opportunities playing with a doubled team player who can pass as well or not?

More nonsense.

Shooters like KCP are mostly boom or bust. It doesn't matter if you pair them with John Stockton or Magic. One day he's Klay Thompson the next game he goes full bricko mode.

What are KCP's averages? He is a career 11ppg guy scoring 10ppg this season at a 43% clip so what is playing for LeNomad doing to his career?

The outliers prove my point. KCP gets his numbers on a good night LeNomad or no LeNomad so stop attaching credit to LeNomad when he plays well. Simple

YulisCromwell:
How will we know? he didnt play the whole season with lebron.

Who are the great or even good shooters that have had a career year with LeNomad? What are you going to tell us next? LeBron invented fire?

YulisCromwell:
Actually all of the above. Life is really really good.

First class degree, three certifications in the past year, scheduled to go for masters at the best ranked university in the world in my field so you know... cant complain.

Bahahahahaha. From Houdegbe or which jeun jeun institution awarded you that grade? You that couldn't talk when they asked you where you were schooling.

Scheduled to where? Lmaooo ok. Talk is cheap though

YulisCromwell:
Seeing as these actions got him fired why would he resist the chance to blame it on bron knowing that might redeem him except if thats the truth?

Have you asked Paul Silas, David Blatt what they think about LeNomad?

Btw what does it profit a GM that hopes to work in the NBA some day to burn bridges with it's most powerful player

YulisCromwell:
LOL Lebron is player coach Gm and now super agent. You lot are too funny

What's your point? You think Rich Paul started Klutch Sports all by his lonely without LeNomad's backing? A black man without any basketball background or college education? I'd ask again are you 5?

YulisCromwell:
But thats their absolute record. You said lebron is stat padding but the lakers are on a 40+ win pace in the games he played, how is that stat padding?

Stat-padding before or after they had no playoffs hopes?

YulisCromwell:
Yeah they just came out and decided they didnt want to make the playoffs so they made injuries and created fake trade talks

Ohhhh please zip it with the excuses. They were the architects of their own misfortune.

LeNomad returned with the Lakers 2 games behind 8th seed with 31 games to go. Every other thing is redundant noise

YulisCromwell:
LOL your illiteracy reminds me of charlie from IASIP. I mentioned double teams and this guy is talking about john stockton

You dont understand statistics, there are averages and then their are outliers, on average how much did kcp average with lebron on the court and without lebron

eg the average iq in this thread might be below world average, doesnt mean there arent outliers like myself, capiche?

What does double teaming have to do with streaky shooters? Man you chat a lot of nonsense all the time! Who was getting double teamed when KCP hit 35.

KCP's numbers are not tied to LeNomad. It's not like he is having a career year so what is this I keep hearing about LeNomad?

My friend make we hear word! You and your bare IQ who has it helped? Have you helped yourself never mind others

YulisCromwell:
Theres no point arguing with you. This just proves you have no idea what you are saying or what happened to the lakers. You just love shitting on bron for the sake of it. Lonzo hasnt played since mid January.

Oh and i said their record with all 4 players playing not their record before lebron got injured Mr. Pseudo analyst.

It's quack analysts like you and other Bronsexuals that pull out and nitpick meaningless records that doesn't take into context the quality of opposition.

In an 82 game season you just pull out a small sample and assume all factors will remain constant. To propagate megedefegede like the Lakers were on a 50+ win pace. Nonsense

YulisCromwell:
LOL Imagine taking barkleys words seriously

Did gasol stop being capable after 2010

I'll give kobe credit for his two rings with his two FMVPS. Those first three were shaqs period.

The question is at what point was Gasol capable of carrying the team with Kobe on the downturn?

The only ring Shaq deserves sole credit for was the 2000 ring. If your teammate is averaging less than 2pts per game than he did in a series then you can't say he was carried so kill that nonsense

YulisCromwell:
Tell me just one team that lost their best player for a quarter of the season and are still part of playoff contention bar the warriors and pacers. Especially a team that was tipped for the playoffs not because of how good they are but on the merit of their best player. When rondo was aked why he believed theyd make the playoffs he said, "we have lebron". Ball went down just after lebron and ingrams shoulder wasnt 100, they both required surgery later on and are out for the remainder of the season. Rondo was out for a good spell too. No team suffered with injuries as much as the lakers. The lakers with lebron ingram kuzma and ball healthy were on pace for 50+ wins. Take that for record.

Lool who cares what Rondo said? What was he supposed to say? They won't make it

Anyway this same player had a chance to prove it when he came back with 31 games to go. With everyone healthy at the time including Lonzo, yet with less than half of that 31 games left they were already knocked out and waved the white flag which proves your faith and that of the players were terribly misplaced

Btw how can a team that had a 20-14 record be on pace for 50+ win? How did you come up with such abysmal Maths

YulisCromwell:
Lets not even forget Shaq was being double teamed triple teamed mangled harassed and hack a shaqed during this period. If padding your stats against wastemen was so easy everyone in the league would have done it. What stopped kobe from doing it

How many times was he able to do it without Kobe? Kobe achieved more success without Shaq. He led a team to three straight Finals with Gasol which shows he could win with any capable big man

Like Barkley said. If he had Kobe he would have won rings too

YulisCromwell:
Dave Griffin has, Pat Riley has. Youd have to be dumb to think lebron can control maginka and jeanie. Werent you lot saying he wanted to get Lue fired as well? Future events proved he certainly didnt. Stop promoting bar talk as fact.

You want Dave Griffin to come out and tell you he was a lame duck? Lmaooo everyone knew Pat Riley ran the ship in Miami. Thanks for telling us what we know Captain Obvious

YulisCromwell:
Rich paul owns klutch. No way he puts lebron over AD. Another dumb thing is people around lebron never get credit for their business acumen. Akin to Phil calling them his posse.

What are you like 5? Who set him up? What was he handling before LeNomad got into the league? What clout and cred does Rich Paul have without LeNomad? Please shift

YulisCromwell:
So how is that stat padding?? Stat padding means it has no positive effect on the game so if they are winning, how does that qualify as stat padding

They are 33-42. That's what I can glean from all this Old Wives Tale you're telling

YulisCromwell:
LOL Because of injuries and other factors yet. Not even mad, they werent going to win it anyway

Story for the gods. There was time to make the playoffs. They folded

YulisCromwell:
Let me explain a certain concept for you in basketball called double teaming, usually when one player draws the attention of more than one opposing player, it tends to open opportunities for shooters, and if hes an elite passer these opportunities are even more pronounced. Thats what people say when they mean shooters and rollers play better with lebron. Doesnt mean if they make their shots they wont get their praise but its easier for them with a player like lebron. Now you know, theres no need to thank me.

KCP's season high of 35 pts was at Milwaukee.

Guess what? LeNomad didn't play.

So stop yarning verbose megedefegede. KCP is a notoriously streaky shooter and when he gets cold even John Stockton couldn't assist him

YulisCromwell:
Lol 1A 1B yet 1A was pretty clear for everyone to see, yet 1A was the best player in the league. If you win a championship and you werent the best player on your team you were carried period! If 1B had as much stake then pippen would have a claim to being the GOAT too.

Are you comparing Pippen's numbers to Kobe? Go to the history of NBA and show me anyone who put up the numbers Kobe did as a player that was supposedly carried.

It's bush league logic to claim a player that isn't the outright best in his team was carried. So Xavi was carried by Messi or what is this megedefegede logic you're chatting

YulisCromwell:
LMAO! Your man went from winning championships and going to the finals to missing the playoffs the season shaq left, in his prime too. Get to the finals? what happened after 2010?

Kobe without Shaq - 3 Finals
Shaq without Kobe - 2 Finals

After 2010 Kobe got old. Getting to 7 NBA Finals in 10 years in a tougher conference took its toll.

YulisCromwell:
I can list three players ahead of him at each point within this period, from duncan to dirk to lebron. just off the top of my head.

Fake news.

Which of them went to more Finals than Kobe within that period

YulisCromwell:
LOL! The man with 11 rings, the man the finals mvp award is named after doesnt have a claim. The most dominant force in NBA history doesnt have a claim to mount rushmore. SMH, Russell and shaq are usually ranked between 4th to 8th so they do have a stake. Ive seen shaq in many peoples mount rushmore including that clown skip. Plus mount rushmore only has 4 players so it cant be one for each position, its about the four greatest period.

You're joking! Lmaooooo that Celtics team had 8 HOFers. They were stacked to the teeth!!

They had the most talent and least competition by a country mile.

Shaq ain't on my Mount Rushmore. When you have a teammate that can carry the scoring load while guarding the other teams best perimeter guy while you feast on bums at your position it's easier to dominate

YulisCromwell:
Horry ended up with 7 being carried at various points in his career.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

YulisCromwell:
LOL, small fry, 32% is a bad 3 point shooting percentage, 36% is good. 39 and above is considered elite. This is common knowledge, youd think.

There is nothing good about a 36% shooting percentage. That's bang average!

YulisCromwell:
This literally makes no sense whatsoever! So lebrons return should automatically fix their momentum and then fix zo do, kuzma and ingrams injury too yes??

With lebron the lakers are a 40+ win team while without him they are on track for 30. So what exactly are you trying to say please?

The Lakers aren't the only team that dealt with injuries. Stop these watery and rubbish excuses. Their record is their record

The Lakers packed it in with Ingram and Ball when the playoffs were out of reach.

YulisCromwell:
LMAO! Your man won a ring averaging less than 16 points in a finals. He was carried by the best player in the league period. You picking out one or two series in between wont change that! They won 3 rings, Shaq was finals MVP all three times and it wasnt even close. You can whine all you want but it wont change this fact.

As a 21 year old. No shame in that! I told you he was only carried in 2000. Not sure what your point is

I've proven you're chatting lies. Shaq padded his numbers vs bare wastemen from the Eastern Conference. Everyone knows this now

Back then the disparity between teams from the East and West was pretty wide. That's why from 99-06 only two teams from the East won a title.

Kobe was not carried

YulisCromwell:
Can we stop with this lebron is the GM balderdash? it has been refuted multiple times by multiple GMs. Maybe next time Klutch and the lakers front office need to learn to keep things quiet or at least not make it too public.

Who are the multiple GM's that have refuted this? How many coaches have had issues with LeNomad again? It's an open secret that he doesn't like being coached.

Lmaooo are you hearing yourself? Who owns Klutch Sports? Isn't it one of his stooges fronting it for him. He created that toxic situation to start with

YulisCromwell:
So playing games is now chasing triple doubles So if all hes chasing is triple doubles how do they have a better win record with him and how do they have a positive point differential with him?

Why all these Jamb questions. Didn't OKC win while Russ was chasing triple dubs?

YulisCromwell:
Laker players with better numbers almost across the board with lebron on the court
Hart
KCP
Javale
Kuzma
Possibly more, but these are three shooters and a roller/dunker. This pseudo analyst doesnt think shooters play better with Lebron, this is new levels of shameless vapid hate

Boohoo. But they are still 11th in the West. 9 games from playoff contention

Story for the gods! There is a difference between playing better and not giving a player credit for a good game. It's tedious with you Bronsexuals. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Same KCP dropped 7 points in a game where LeNomad played and KCP gets the blame (rightfully so) but don't tell me KCP scores 30points then LeNomad gets the credit. We ain't buying that shyte

You can loathe Kobe but don't bring that nonsense myth that Kobe was carried in my vicinity. I will destroy it.

Kobe was guarding and still dropping these numbers. Put some respeck on Kobe's name

More of Shaq carrying Kobe

YulisCromwell:
LOL The only people who believe kobe deserves to be in the conversation are clowns who bought into the whole "mamba mentality" rubbish. Shaq deserves to be in the discussion far more than Kobe. At least shaq had the highest peak in NBA history. He carried teams including kobes bum a-s to three rings.

Pure unadulterated B.S!! The only year Shaq ever carried Kobe to a ring was the 2000 season. Every other season they were 1A and 1B. Go and rehash this myth and urban legend to basketball neophytes not OG's like us. Anybody who told you Shaq carried Kobe after year 2000 is lying from the pits of hell

Kobe won two rings without Shaq! Kobe will win rings and get to NBA Finals with any competent big man. These are facts

YulisCromwell:
Kobe DID NOT have an era! How can you have an era when you were never the best player in the league

This is another bold-faced lie. From years 2005 to 2009 Kobe was the best player in the league.

Go and ask San Antonio Spurs and Greg Popovich about Kobe and the pain and sorrow he caused them from age 22

YulisCromwell:
Wilt Russell Shaq KAJ all have claims to mount rushmore but second place to Magic, Lebron and even Timmy dont, so what are you even talking about? Is the SG the only position where the best doesnt belong in the discussion?

Neither Shaq nor Russell have any claims to Mt Rushmore. The idea of a Mt Rushmore is not to have more than one player per position so I don't know why you're chasing your tail

YulisCromwell:
LOL the man literally has missed more shots than anyone else in NBA history. And in the NBA theres a huge difference between a 36% three shooter and a 32% three shooter. Thats pretty obvious.

Still ended up with a ring for each finger so what's your point?

A 36% and 32% 3 point shooter are two below average 3 point shooters. Don't have time for any pointless hairsplitting arguments

steady986:
Him playing doesn't guarantee a win, it just guarantees better performances. Simple

Remind me their record since LeNomad's return please

We're really paying €80m for a defender that requires knee surgery

YulisCromwell:
LOL You expect the team to return to shooting on all cylinders after lebron missed a quarter of the season plus with injuries at various points to key players? Theres a difference between giving a player most of the credit and giving him all the credit. With all great players its pretty obvious theyre the most important factor in the win. Thats why these days the team with the most wins usually produce the MVP. When a team loses the best player cant possibly be at fault but everyone else. Thats just a simple concept that has been applied to all greats. But when its lebron its a problem/ You lot just shamelessly keep shifting the goal post, its embarrassing!

He may be a streaky shooter but its a well known fact that shooters play better with lebron on the court. If you dont agree with this you need to go back to basketball 101.

No. We expected the team to not completely implode. He missed 17 games which is about 20% of the season. He returned with almost 40% of the season to play.

The problem is LeNomad did not believe in this team. He wanted them all out to bring in Anthony Davis so in a way whatever problem they had chemistry-wise is largely on him

Every team is dealing with one injury or the other so try another excuse. James Harden played without Capela, Gordon and CP3 for almost 25 games at different points of the season

When a team loses and the best player is just chasing triple doubles and not carrying his team knowing their limitations like Harden is then he deserves a significant share of blame.

Stop repeating this nonsense. There have been numerous games KCP played horribly with LeNomad on the court. Didn't KCP finish with this 7 points on a night LeNomad played a while ago? A player scores 29pts via his own shooting LeNomad gets credit, LeNomad plays and the player shoots badly LeNomad still gets credit while the player gets crucified. Nonsense

YulisCromwell:
So telling the truth about him is disrespecting him? no one ever denied that hes great but he doesnt belong anywhere near the GOAT discussion.

Naah that's not even the issue here. It's not about this particular instance, I'm saying generally The Kobe slander and disrespect is very real. Especially among Bronsexuals.

I recall the other day Nick Wright coming on TV saying Kobe didn't have an era. That is how nonsensical things are becoming

Why does Kobe not belong in the GOAT discussion? Some say it's Wilt, some say it's Kareem some say it's Magic so why can't Kobe be in the conversation

YulisCromwell:
You said high volume shooting guards had low efficiency, i just refuted that claim. The man was just a brick layer with a green light.

List the volume Shooting Guards bar Jordan and their career Field Goal percentage let's compare and see if they were more superior. List their PER too while we're at it

YulisCromwell:
Granted, but the second greatest at any position bar the center you'll find doesnt belong in mount rushmore.

2nd greatest PG Oscar/Isaah/maybe even curry
SF Bird/KD/Dr J
PF Dirk/KG/Malone

None of these guys belong in mount rushmore.

Of course they are not competing with the GOAT. Nobody in the Mount Rushmore of basketball would be there if Jordan played their position

YulisCromwell:
I'm talking about their efficiency. At least harden can say he shoots more 3s, whats kobricks excuse?

Kobe shot a fair amount of threes in his time too. He's 9th all-time in attempts. The difference is minimal i don't get why you're hammering on it. One is a 36% shooter the other a 32% one. None of which screams elite efficiency anyway

YulisCromwell:
Stop pushing this narrative that has been refuted many times. Are you really trying to deny the lakers play better with lebron on the court? Real talk, did lebron shag your girlfriend or something?

Nonsense! What's their record since he returned. I refuted the notion because this nonsense you people do and give LeNomad all the credit when things go well and shift the blame to the teammates when things go South needs to die.

KCP a well known streaky player scores 35 and reverts to mean the next day and next thing it's because LeNomad didn't play as if LeNomad playing guarantees a win in Utah

YulisCromwell:
How is that an awful analogy? You literally just claimed a player is better than another player because his team beat the other players team?

No. I said so because he was the better player in 4 out of 6 playoff series they dueled. They are pretty much dead even on other stuff. This slander and Kobe disrespect must stop.

I get on Twitter and see Faux Lakers fans who are actually LeNomad fans slandering Kobe and downplaying his greatness

YulisCromwell:
Off the top of my head Drexler, Gervin, Miller and Mj are all high volume shooting guards and i can bet my left nut theyve all shot better than that. Efficiency has always been a part of the game, the bloody brick layer just never had it period. Glad you brought up Harden, theyre in the same ship. Harden is even better because he shoots more 3s.

Still only one player in that list is better than Jordan. 47% shooting to 45% is the statistical hairsplittin apostates like Nick Wright and others like to dance on to push nonsense propaganda

None of this perceived lack of efficiency stopped Kobe from being the second best SG of all time. Go and ask the teams Kobe slaughtered including the Spurs in the playoffs whether Kobe was efficient or not

Harden better than Kobe? Lmaooo.

steady986:
I'm just talking strictly player performance here. Honestly everybody plays like crap when the king ain't playing. No leadership, everyone seems confused.

Even with him they still play like crap else they would be in the playoffs so what gives?

What yeye leadership has he provided this season?

YulisCromwell:
So because the warriors beat the cavs in 2015 curry is better than lebron?

I loved Kobe as a kid but the man is one of the most overrated players in NBA history all thanks to good marketing (Mamba mentality aka brick mentality). I guess like everything else he got his marketing team from MJ. this man legit never shot over 47% from the field. Boot leg MJ and thats saying something. I have him in my top ten though.

When will you stop using awful analogies mate?

Kobe beat the Spurs being the best player in the Series on 4 different occasions. With and without Shaq

45% shooting is par for the course for a high volume Shooting Guard especially in that era. He would have slightly higher numbers if he played now that there's a higher emphasis on efficiency. James Harden is arguably the best player in the league and he also shoots sub 47%. Nothing new

YulisCromwell:

Kobe did rank himself ahead of MJ and LeBron, but Kobe vs. Tim Duncan might actually be the better debate https://t.co/RSaIRwu408 pic.twitter.com/TWuGWd2KhQ

— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) March 28, 2019

Bare facts! I was thinking the exact same thing. Like kobe was literally never the best player in the NBA and he thinks hes the GOAT. Mamba Mentality = Delusions of grandeur.

Do you know how many times Kobe Bryant destroyed the San Antonio Spurs? Lmaooo! He was well known as the Spurs killer. I'm tired of you indomie generation fans I swear

Roland17:
That celebration was disgraceful to watch, how the entire Lakers bench did not get a technical for stepping on the court is beyond me. I think that is the highlight of their season sufficient enough for them to bring some sort of closure.

Miles Turner is only 23!!!!! A lot of upside for the kid and with Nate he will get better especially now that he has been paid.

PG3 has to be consistent if the Thunder team hope to go deep in the post season, this is because they lack offensive depth and Brodie is not a volume scorer the team can depend on. They would have to force teams to play under 100 or 105 to get comfortable victories.

The refs didn't want to compound the woes of the Lakers.

My problem with Myles Turner is he can be a bit too passive on offense. He settles for too many jumpshots instead of attacking the rim and utilizing his size

OKC are a weird conundrum of a team. Their offense can grind to bottom level at the most inopportune time. It's why I question their ability to offer any type of threat to the Warriors

YulisCromwell:
Top teams in the east? which top teams? And there are bad teams in the west? do the warriors count as well? cause i can remember the lakers spanking them on christmas day. But wait... i thought you lot said the east was weak and all the teams are bottom feeders in the west? Stop changing the goal post.

Didn't he get blasted by Philly, Toronto and Milwaukee?

Yes bad teams like Memphis and Phoenix that took the piss on your king and hastened their demise and surrender each time they tried to mount a revival.

Anyway stop obfuscating. The crux of the whole gist is LeNomad came back to a team in playoff contention before All-star break and yet by first week of March they were already out of contention. I'm not interested in the rest of your banal arguments and nitpicking stats like Beans. It serves no purpose

I had the Lakers missing the playoffs and I wound up right

YulisCromwell:
Because you rooted for GGG and wanted him to win period. Whether you stan him or not youre biased, admit it.

All I asked was for the fight to be called down the middle. GGG was robbed for both fights. Simple

YulisCromwell:
Most media houses i personally checked predicted Canelo would lose mostly because they felt he lost the first one.

Surely they must have a name

YulisCromwell:
So wilder was out boxed, i'm sorry were you expecting a different outcome? in case you missed the memo, wilder cant box, hes a KO artist/slugger. Fury is an outboxer so when it comes to the sweet science fury obviously outboxed him, but he didnt win.

Stop repeating this stale retort. We know what Wilder is. The point is that with 1 and a half knockdowns (that ninth round slip don't count) the overwhelming majority didn't think Wilder even deserved a draw! Do you know how badly you have to have performed for even your own people to not believe you deserved a draw?

YulisCromwell:
Why would there be any controversy over bias if it was as clear as you claimed especially if the other judges or one other judge scored it the same way

Because of people like you. However the important thing here to note is people are attacking the Mexican judge not the Brit. There is no way a Brit judge handing Fury the win will not also cause controversy solely based on his nationality. What matters is everyone jumped on the Mexican judge for his scandalous scorecard.

Let me ask you. Do you believe Wilder won the first 4 rounds?

YulisCromwell:
Why would he need a tune up to beat a guy he just beat? Lol! Fury was scared and decided to secure the bag before fighting again period.

Because it was argued that he took the Wilder fight prematurely to start with. You ought to be ashamed that a guy that was almost 3 years out of boxing outshone Wilder to the point even his fellow Americans didn't believe he deserved a draw in a fight held in his own country

YulisCromwell:
Why would he under price himself going into the biggest heavyweight bought of the decade? Like i said, wilder has the biggest money making potential out of all of them. Hes the american KO artist.

If you want to be the Undisputed Heavyweight King then that's a small price to pay knowing you hold the aces once you win the belt.

Wilder can't generate as much money as AJ. Not in this life! Wilder on a very good day cannot fill out 15k arenas without a major name like Fury or AJ in his own country

YulisCromwell:
LOL He wasnt ducking the guy you lot claimed beat him when he wanted the rematch with fury. When AJ asked for 50m and got what he asked for then refused the fight, he wasnt ducking Wilder. Keep deceiving yourselves, wilder isnt scared of anyone. Just look at their current opponents Breazale though a can himself is the best out of them. But screw these heavyweights trying to be business men instead of fighting the best. Theyre all shameless. Thats why the heavyweight division is the desert of boxing now. Zero excitement. Fury wilder AJ theyre all a pack of bums! Me defending wilder doesnt change that, you lot just need to be consistent.

Lmaooooo. Where was the contract for this so-called $50m monopoly money. Where the heck is Wilder going to see $50m. No one over 5 years
old believed that ruse. Wilder was asked to forward the contract of said $50m which he is yet to do till this day

Wilder ducked AJ twice refusing to agree to an April date in Wembley

The Breazale Wilder wants to fight now AJ beat 4 years ago. After all the noise AJ has been vindicated

Anyway it's a shame the way boxing has gone. I miss the good old days where the best actively sought out each other and fought with no TV drama or network circus. Now it's borderline WWE

YulisCromwell:
Were they celebrating the crossover or beating the team

The score was like 32-29 when it happened. It hadn't been determined who would win or lose at that point so clearly they were celebrating the crossover

YulisCromwell:
Yeah right this is the first time a crossover has garnered a reaction from the bench in the NBA.

It was OTT for a team not going to the playoffs. Who was that sitting and rolling on the floor like he was being exorcized