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Roland17:
I disagree with your opinion about J. Toews's contract, he earned that contract with magnificent plays during our title winning seasons, he is the captain of the side, and deservedly so.

A clear out is inevitable but more importantly J. Quenneville has to become flexible with his rotation and line changes. It was not the fact that we got swept, but the fact that a high octane offense could not muster goals irrespective of Pekka Rinne's form during that series. Saad's return is hinged on the hope that it revives P. Kane, which i think would help.

I don't think we have a bad roster, i just think we have to figure out what to do with C. Crawford, especially during the playoffs. If you remember, i had hesitations about the guy and he proved me right.

Hossa is going to be a big loss, however, at 38 i don't think he has the strength to continue especially while dealing with a skin disorder.

I'd say he earned it to an extent but why I say its bad is because it gives the team very little wiggle room to work with. Toews cannot be dropping less than 60pts in a season with arguably one of the top 5 salaries in hockey. He has to always produce wine from water else na cap gymnastics una go do till Kingdom come. Plus his numbers have never stood out let's be honest. Na ironmen like Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook dey cover him yansh

This past season sef Patrick Kane was actually una main guy and even the season before when he was MVP. He is the only one playing to his contract. Saad was brought to revive Toews

Your roster is still elite. Only big issue is goaltending, Crawford's backup is gone so if he messes up na problem. Still think Hjalmarsson was a big loss too

As for Hossa his injury has actually freed some cap space

Roland17:
ISO players who would get pummeled on transition, you dey even talk offense!!!

I would only be worried if they traded Love to get a guy like Porzingis and still add George. Make no mistake the Warriors would be even better next year, I expect guys like McCaw and Clark to improve in their 2nd and 3rd year. Klay and Dray are only 27. LeBald is already pushing 33, Melo 33. J.R 32. Oh well we dey here

inMyOpeenion:
buh I still look forward to the era where Youths would be given enough opportunity to play in Chelsea and not loaning/selling them and getting them back with extreme much money

You dunno already. Chelsea just aren't the club for young talents. Its a shame that even with the CL Youth cup and other awards the first team struggles to put 3-5 youth products. Anyway it is not changing anytime soon so no point complaining I guess

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Just look at this stewpid boy

Melo, Kyrie, George, Lebron for one offense. That traffic jam go pass Apapa own

inMyOpeenion:
lol. I like that dude. We bidding for him already

You must know your onions. The boy is excellent! His crossing and ability to create chances with his intelligent runs always impresses me. And he is just 22

Nihilist:
Cedric Soares at Southampton isn't half bad o.

Let me give you Game for free. Go and get Jeremy Toljan from Hoffenheim

Roland17
Wetin do your Blackhawks? Is it cos of that small sweep they want to tear down the roster? Suprised y'all traded Panarin and Hjalmarsson. That deal wey una give Toews is starting to look like a bad one. Especially when you look at what Crosby is doing with rookies and second year guys. While Toews is struggling. I don't believe Saad's return automatically fixes it


Shame what happened to Hossa, he's a big miss next season and would tough to replace

Ersan:
Nope, doesnt matter. These aren't the piston bad boys anymore.

Every roster undergoes a makeover at some point. The Bulls did, Spurs did. They didn't stop winning. All I see is excuses

Ersan:
Nope, not enough. Not the same team.

Well that's too bad. We don't care

Ersan:
Make up your mind.

From 2010 to 2014. The Miami Heat were the best team in the league. You have failed to show a team that was consistently better

Ersan:
Yuup, but KG made it there on merit not because of pity, nostalgia or sentimentality like the mamba did.

What merit? There were other players more deserving. He got there on the back of his rep

Ersan:
Players age differently, jordan was good at 36, deron williams once a premier pg is now utter shit. Garnett was still really good.

I don't care how they age. They were no match for the Heat. Neither was Rose and Luol Deng

Ersan:
Gambling addicts always owe somebody something. That aside, he is who he is and with such greatness other things are expected of you. He clearly is not man enough to accept these responsibilities.

Who he owing then and what is it to you? Do you know what he is doing behind the scenes? Or do you feel its everybody who likes to publicize what they do in the community. Your pastor, imam, politicians, teachers are there to be your role models. Stop expecting things from athletes who are flawed human beings just like you

Any All Defense anything without Klay Thompson is Trash

These awards are a waste of time. How on earth did Klay Thompson not make All Defense First or Second Team? Is it because he is light skinned? Cos I don't even understand

Add the G.O.A.T add Kobe sef. So long as I don't hear no excuses next summer

raumdeuter:
In my lifetime African football has never had good administrators, South America does not have good administrators yet they still do relatively well

US and some European countries, have excellent administrators yet they dont do anything

Gragra football is not talent. Cerebral football is what I call talent, players like Kanu(my best Nigerian player) had it from the streets of Owerri without any administration which is why he was one of the most celebrated players from Nigeria

Right now, how many Nigerian players are regular first team players playing in any first division in the leagues in Italy, England, Germany Holland, Spain Italy

Around 1996 to 2002, Several of our players were playing REGULAR first team football in top clubs, Oliseh Dortmund, Kanu Arsenal, Taribo Inter, Finidi Betis, Babangida Ajax, Ikpeba Dortmund/Monaco, Babayaro Chelsea, Amuneke Barcelona, Okocha PSG, Akpoborie Stuttgart etc

Thats almost 11 players I named off the top of my head who were playing elite top level football, Was the administration good or better at that time?

That's why I just think administration is just a convenient excuse. I think we lack genuine talents. We only dominate age groups because we lie about ages.

Chrisantus, Haruna Lukman, Rabiu Ibrahim, all got good breaks after the U17 world club, they were picked up by European clubs they all failed. Stanley Okoro set too same thing It was the same type of tournament where Kanu, Babayaro, Oruma went from to Europe and excelled

Can we just be honest and admit we dont have genuine talents anymore. Maybe in the future we will get lucky again. And its not a terrible thing to admit

Brazil the home of football recently went though their own talent drought, Italy too is currently going through their own minor drought, Germany went through theirs

Nigerian Football was very organized back in the day. We had age cheats but at least we had a system. People forget that as per that 94-96 team the foundation for that squad was built from 89-90. Those stars didn't come from the moon.

We had age grade comps. We had YSFON that brought Amokachi, Babayaro e.t.c

Cycles end and countries go through lulls but it is your level of organization that determine how long you stay there

raumdeuter:
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I always hear this mantra that poor administration is why African football is terrible. Do you believe this or it's just a case of we don't have the talents

We have enough talents to do much better but like every other thing in life talent alone is never enough.

Administration is a massive issue. No structure, no deliberate plan for the short or long term. Its just a mirror of the larger society to be honest.

After USA 94 if they told me Nigeria or any other African team would not get to a World Cup semi I would not believe it

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Its about to get ugly. I'm happy the faux camaraderie especially from Hamilton is out of the way. I don't necessarily agree with what Seb did but Hamilton was not blameless and this might explain why Vettel didn't get a harsher penalty

Ersan:
Nope. Without laimbeer and vinny and isaah their star player playing like a bum they didnt stand a chance. The team wasn't the same face it. Their record proves it. The year after they werent even the second best team.

They were all present for the sweep. Secondly their subsequent decline was not irredeemable.

Aguirre - 31
Rodman - 29
Thomas - 29
Dumars - 27

That is enough core to build around. Championship teams lose role players every year. Your excuse ain't a tenable one

Ersan:
Of course he still played regardless of how he played he was their star player but he went from averaging 20 in playoffs to 13. Every shooting stat of his fell.

Laimbeer and mahorn aged. Isiah as we know was still suffering the effects of his injury. Isaiah was also pretty bad on his own.

More excuses. They had Aguirre (career 20ppg scorer) and Finals MVP Joe Dumars

Ersan:
So i was right, he didnt have the best squad in the league.

Nope. The Heat from 2010 to 2014 were the best team and most loaded team in the league

Ersan:
garnett, paul pierce and ray allen. The original big 3. A bunch of OAPS with two all stars in their prime

KG alone had 15 and was still an all star in 2011 and even 2013. This is who youre calling an OAP.

Pierce 10 total, still an all star in 2011.

Allen, 10 total, still an all star in 2011.

Lewl. Kobe was an All star in 2016.

K.G was 37 in 2013. You can't be complaining about the Pistons decline when all 3 Celtics were older than the Bad Boy Pistons roster

Ersan:
Lol! Sir charles. Even he is doing more than the bald gambler now. That age old saying about an old fool comes to mind.

The G.O.A.T owes nobody jack. If he wasn't who he is no one would give a fuq about him

SmooshCHN:
Bob Myers with his smart moves and decisions be making it look like other GMs came to sell groundnuts. If he polishes his offense and works on his core strength, I think Zaza and Kevon Looney would be out.

That would likely come with time. I would offload Looney and Zaza quick. Keep McGee and West on the minimum and hope guys like Clark and McCaw keep making leaps. I would hope for Iggy and Livingston to stay but I suspect Livingston might want one last pay day having won 2 rings and resurrected his career from the dead. Iggy is 95% likely to stay.

I have to trowey salute for the job Bob Myers is doing. The Jordan Bell pickup was brilliant. This is the kind of guy defensively you need to beat Golden State and somehow he ended up with Golden State. I've seen some clips and a Thompson-Durant-Bell-Green rotation would make life very hard for people

Kimmich's crosses dey always scatter my dada. Make he just maintain him champion for that RB.


Ter Stegen. Smh! And Trapp is another errorist.


Those Efulefus at Juve want to collect £60m for Alex Sandro and are insisting on €40m for Douglas Costa. I don't know why we keep doing business with that useless club

airmark:
If sule couldn't command a starting shirt in confed cup, then the coach might have seen what i saw in the robotic defender.
Sulemana eeyan a40.

Bebeto. Bebelube! Have you seen your life for outside?

Ersan:
Laimbeer and vinny. Losing two core players? Salley and edwards were part of the dynasty and left. They may not have been the core but their exit took a toll on them.

Grant and Armstrong also left the Bulls. They didn't fade to irrelevance

The Pistons didn't just step down. They were overthrown. Don't paint it like they left while they were ahead

Ersan:
They had the best player in the league and pippen.

Pistons had Isiah, Dumars, Aguirre. Enough to build around.

Ersan:
Have a quote from a 1991 article that sums up the isiah thomas and bad boys your flat track bully faced.

Somewhere in the painfully sore right wrist of guard Isiah Thomas are a pair of floating ligaments that have dared become detached from their rightful resting place, thus explaining why Thomas' shooting of late would qualify him for membership in the NBA Bricklayers' Union.

Not that this is at all humorous, unless you are an NBA player and you take your mail in Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia or Milwaukee.

Can't be bothered about some article when Isiah's minutes tell another story

Ersan:
Who exactly do you think were the core of the bad boys era?

Everybody knows Laimbeer, Rodman, Mahorn were the lynchpins. However they still leaned heavily on Dumars, Isiah and Aguirre for buckets. All that badness is useless if you can't score buckets

Ersan:
Spurs?

Of course. I'd throw in the Warriors too

Ersan:
Were they ever in his league? were they ever lock in for MVP convo yearly?

Exactly. He beat a bunch of OAPs with two All stars in their prime. That was his competition

Ersan:
I'm going, i'm going... UNCLE TOM!

And BTW, welfare is not what i was talking about.

Chuck already told y'all I'm not a role model. Stop relying on the next man to swing for you.

Ersan:
Lol! They had the reach and the build. Jordan is just not strong enough. Stop it with this funny argument about jordan guarding centers.

The build? The Worm had the reach not the build, Ben Wallace the build not the reach. At each turn they gave away at least 50 pounds. Mind over matter

M.J is a SG. That's not his brief

Ersan:
Lol! He will still have that brain. He will still have his passes. Lebron without his athleticism is still magic johnson.

As a passer perhaps. On defense? You're dreaming

Ersan:
You misunderstand me. Jordan stopped, he didn't guarding.

He could guard if need be. However its not smart to put your best scorer and SG on a Center. My point is made

Ersan:
So did magic. So did wilt, so did hakeem, so did shaq. Are they all goats?

Magic was the best till the G.O.A.T came sorta like John the Baptist

Ersan:
West was NOT his size. He was taller and stronger, Why waste your energy guarding west any way?

I thought he could guard anybody? Lmao West was 34, is only 1 inch taller. They weigh the exact same thing. Try another excuse

Ersan:
There is no player in the NBA he cant effectively guard if he wishes too. Except you know the players you just cant guard.

LeBald can't guard anybody he can't bully. He is a rubbish one on one defender. Help D and weakside blocks is where he excels

Ersan:
Lol! BTW, Bron wasnt even guarding terry. Terry just loves to talk shieet! Heck he wasnt even a starter. And lebron was having a bad series then period. He choked, never denied that.

Who was he guarding? Dirk? Shawn Marion? JET played starter minutes

Ersan:
By a mile or two. Not saying butler isnt very good too.

And people say he looks like MJ, i dont see it.

Maybe its cause he isnt bald.

Can Butler play off the ball? That is the question. If you lose Love the floor spacing would be problematic

Ersan:
I remember him indirectly hinting he wanted to play for the cavs. Saying he wanted to play with kyrie, then korver of all people another cav and tried to give some bs explanation for that to cover his tracks.

Personally i dont think hes who we need, especially if PG is the alternative.

Add him if you must. PG obviously better

Ersan:
Laimbeer? your goats nightmare?

Vinnie johnson? who by the way was waved after 1991.

James edwards traded in 1991.

Salley left in 1992.

Rodman in 1993

Isaiah thomas was injured in 1991 when the bulls won, swept the pistons BTW.

I listed the core of the team who were still young. The core was intact! Bar Vinny and Laimbeer the rest were replaceable. You even listed Salley and Edwards. Lmao oh boy, Desperate times call for desperate measures. Why didn't the Bulls fall apart when Paxson, Armstrong and Horace Grant left. Since we are focusing on role players

The same Isiah Thomas that led the walkout? These were Isiah's minutes
Game 1 - 38
Game 2 - 27
Game 3 - 47
Game 4 - 39

Ersan:
Here we have the first instance of you contradicting your self.

Nope. When 3 or 4 of the best players are in a team are in their mid 30's anything out of them is a bonus. The Pistons core were not close to that. Try again

Ersan:
Only loss he could have avoided was Dallas.

Nyet, Nyet, Nehi, Nehi

Ersan:
I STRONGLY DISAGREE!!!

Facts are Sacrosanct. Your disagreement is just that. A disagreement

Ersan:
Lol! They were exceptions too. If jeffrey was the best player in the league at 35 they too were a force.

You would have to prove that mate. What were their numbers compared to the G.O.A.T? The G.O.A.T was in MVP discussion! Allen? Pierce? KG?

Ersan:
Nope, but his silence and inactivity has.

Comot for my circumference with that yeye welfare mentality. He owes y'all zilch. If he wasn't M.J no one would give a phuck about him

Ersan:
And bums like you that keep shouting 3-5. Dont transfer all the blame to someone. The first thing you did after warriors won was to call out cavs fans.

In response to the 3-1 jokes we had to endure by Lebtards like you all season long as if that series didn't start 0-0

4-1 >>> 3-1

Ersan:
Sharpe and wright dont have half the influence bayless the lebron hater has. So its actually the haters not the supporters to blame.

Irrelevant. Lebtards are the most obnoxious, loud and insufferable lot existing on the internet

Jimmy Butler another iso ninja? Lmaoo una go hear whinnnn

Ersan:
Nope. You can't have 6'6 Jordan at the post marking a 7 footer. Once a good passer spots the mismatch he'll just pass over him for an easy bucket. Size has a lot to the with it.

I have proven to you that the G.O.A.T could do it in spurts and out of necessity if need be, defense is mostly mind over matter that is why Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman at 6'7-6'8 could render Shaq completely useless

Ersan:
LeBron, the greatest basketball mind to grace the court doesn't know the fundamentals of defence? You may fault his execution but don't fault this man's knowledge.

Lmao. Bron is a help defender! You would see how useless he becomes when his athleticism leaves him and he can't make those weakside plays no more

Ersan:
Guarding and stopping are different things. Jordan can't handle hour dimes or collect boards like LeBron can. He's attack minded.

LeBald did not stop anybody either. Klay played good D doesn't mean he stopped Kyrie. The G.O.A.T's numbers were above average for his position. Under Phil emphasis is not on assists go and check his title teams. B.J Armstrong, Ron Harper, Derrick Fisher were the PGs and nobody dominating assists in all 11 titles he won

Ersan:
LeBron like he always explains is a true triple threat. A combination of all time greats. Put the mailman, magic, Jeffrey and a little Shaq in one person. That's the greatness that is LeBron.

That is another reason he is not the G.O.A.T. The G.O.A.T is not like anybody! Think about it! There is nobody saying his game is like this and that. He made his own lane

Ersan:
West averaged 16 a game. He was bigger and stronger. LeBron admitted guarding him had a toll on him. But I think his goal was just to stay with him rather than lock him down because it will wear him down on the offensive end.

LeBald always has issues guarding ninjas his size. This is why we tell you he is a help defender. Na beg dem dey always beg am just to play at PF despite being built like a Center

Ersan:
He got his revenge. No one will forget that dunk, everyone hates Jason Terry.

Newsflash: Nobody cares! Terry by then was a 36 y.o OAP averaging 5pts per game

Ersan:
None.

I can use their age as an excuse. Dynasties fall Mr A.

Good luck.

Joe Dumars - 28
Isiah Thomas - 30
Mark Aguirre - 31
Dennis Rodman - 30

The G.O.A.T won his last title at 35 and was still the best player in the league. They have no excuse

Ersan:
After they aged, wilted and dismantled. That's what counts.

I repeat


The G.O.A.T won his last title at 35 and was still the best player in the league. They have no excuse

Ersan:
LeBrons finals competition is tougher so your 6-0 argument is poppycock!

He had enough talent to avoid defeat in 3 of those 5 L's. You just dey yarn megedefegede walahi taiahi

Ersan:
Nope. KD fit in faster and better than anyone ever projected. And they were already a 73 win team.

We've seen 67 win teams lose in the first round. This 73 win argument is tired. The Heat were the most loaded team in the league. FACT

Ersan:
3 legends over 34. At that age, in that year. No one slept on them.

34, 35, 36. With 1000's of mileage on their creaky bones. Allen and K.G were in their 16th year in the league. 16!!

Everybody can't be like the G.O.A.T that still did it at 35. He's the exception not the norm

Ersan:
LeBron can't help if he's bald. Aesthetics don't define a man. Jeffrey chose to be a gambler and a coon. I can never respect that.

Lmao who your respect epp? I don't care for you nitpicking brehh. We all got our vices. The G.O.A.T's vices has not affected anybody's means of livelihood or broken any laws

Ersan:
Typo. Meant to say a new challenge. With magic at the helm of affairs good things are to come.

Not in 2 years. We would see I like Magic

Ersan:
Everything know the NBA is about the king because the king is the NBA.

Warriors win NBA title, Headlines: LeBron loses NBA finals.

GOAT standards.

Thanks to paid Lebtards like Nick Wright, Shannon Sharpe and the casual fans who won't praise the Man who was the best player in the series Kevin Durant

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/11/24/7274911/nba-conference-record-standings-imbalance

Old article but highlights the point. The East is shyte. LeBald does not sniff even 4 Finals in the West

Ersan:
Lol! Thats different, everyone knows jordan was great at steals and in some cases blocks but he is not physically capable of handling who lebron can handle.

Nonsense. You people need to understand defense goes beyond size. There is no player Bron guarded that the G.O.A.T couldn't, the G.O.A.T knew the fundamentals. Bron is simply athletic and good at helping

Ersan:
Yeah right....

How many bigs can you count in that video? Make no mistake the G.O.A.T could do it all! Even the triple doubles. He just didn't have to

Ersan:
Which game was this?

2014 ECF

Ersan:
Nope, that was the nail on his coffin...

Shame on LeBald for getting called out and sonned by a 34 year old in the NBA Finals.

Ersan:
Their record fell they year he won. They werent as dominant or effective as they used to be. As a team reliant on physical play they werent the same. Like you said, they never recovered.

And I'm sitting here wondering how any of that is the G.O.A.T's fault. They got to 3 straight Finals so they were a great team. They weren't old so you can't even use their age as an excuse

Ersan:
Exactly, and he never was able to do anything against them, why hold lebron losing to great teams against him?

He eventually did. That's what counts

Ersan:
The GOAT in his prime shifted the balance of power to his conference. Celtics, Pistons were multiple title winning teams in contention in the East. Tell us what has been LeBald's competition coming out of the East?
Because you said this, the balance of power was never in the wests favor to begin with.

Maintained the status quo. Either way what is bleeding obvious is the competition was tougher in the East so your first round argument falls flat on its a$s

Ersan:
Lol! if lebron wasnt there these are the teams that would make finals appearances.

And woulda promptly gotten bounced by any Western team

Ersan:
The bulls had the best record in the East. The miami heat were talented but were still finding their stride.

Good. Golden State with the inclusion of K.D, West, Pachulia were still finding their stride. Still won 4-1

Ersan:
No one in his right mind would call that team a cake walk, regardless of their age.

Are you joking? Not 1 but 3 core players over 34. Lmaoo

Ersan:
Thats you. His aesthetics are none of your business.

What is your business with The G.O.A.T's gambling? Is he betting with your money?

Ersan:
Well the lakers have a lot of cards in their hands, its his hometown, its a new challenger. Its better than losing to Lebron.

The Lakers? A challenger? Lmao! That roster is at least 2 years from being a playoff team if they are lucky. You are in La La land if you think Paul George's addition automatically makes them a factor in the Wild Wild West. L.A >>> Naptown. Get over yourself bro everything ain't about LeBald

Chale. You mean you guys really paid €40m for Andre Gomes? Unfassbar