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pkasso:
Mo ti so tele, eran iya ni e. It is now beyond doubt that you truly are a glutton for punishment and a sucker for pain. Wetin concern me concern you. E no go beta for you if you no show argument wey I jump enter. Your stupidity is one of a kind.Bayern never played away to Hamburg in 2015 which negates the validity of your statement and thus makes it a lie. A case of lie begetting lie. Arindin40, I put it to you that you are a consummate reetard. When they say you have comprehension issues, this na example. What I meant when I said we can't all be Einsteins was that there will always be dumb people like you on this planet. I may not be a genius but I'm certainly not a certified he-diot like you. A plain he-diot, who would have at least been accepted if he had savant attached to it that way at least you would have something useful to offer.
Everyone knows our in-house AJAsco is a glory hunter. This unfortunate fellow used to be an Arsenal fan. He even created an Arsenal thread. But then he ran away when things went bad. Now I know we all have a past and I shouldn't judge but who says he won't do the same, God forbid the same thing happens to Bayern in the future. Ramuzaki, this dog won't be loyal for long. You had better start looking for a new dog. Luckily for you, you already have one waiting in the wings. I no go mention name .

Bwahahahaha. I have slaughtered more intelligent and wittier people than you. You must be all types of neurotic if you think your paperweight punches move Deontay Wilder.

We would see who is the eran iya between us when I have finished putting you thru 36 Chambers of pain.

You were born confused of your gender and the identity of the charlatans that brought you to this planet. Which explains why you do not know what a lie means and why you phoolishly could not decipher between last year and last season.

E pele Einstein. Mr masochistic demons doing hit dem folks. Is that the ret@rded lines you use to impress your fellow urchins ni igboro? What an Oloshious and Awadashious fellow

Me a gloryhunter. Ko ni ragba fun e. Iwo eranko ibiye.

Hahahahaha you who were an Arsenal fan, A Barca fan and now claim to support Bayern yet you have the nerve to call me a gloryhunter? All in your desperate bid to impress apoche cra cra and Bobriskky.

This was you in August 2011.

www.nairaland.com/669609/fc-barcelona-fan-thread-mes/16#8874706

pkasso:
The last time we conceded four goals in a single game was March 09 when we lost 4-3 to Atleti.Forget Fab,with Puyol still sidelined,we need reinforcements at the back as the defence still remains our Achilles's Heel.Madridstas are probably having a bout of Schadenfreude as our abysmal pre-season form continues.1 out of 4 pre-season games is bad enough for a club of our calibre.The glimmer of hope amidst this darkness is Thiago who has proved so far that he deserves a starting XI shirt.Enough holidaying for Leo and Xavi,work should start now!.I can't bear to see them lose The Spanish SuperCup to Real Madrid!

Bwahahahaha. Busted. Phool

You are a shameless hypocrite unfit to support a great club like Bayern Munich. Edumare punish you well well. I retraced my roots in the open and in the full glare of everybody while you phoolish Alabosi took the coward route as usual and went under G
pretending to be a Bayern fan. Oloriburuku omo iya aje

Iyawo Asiko

You are worse than a dog you are a rat, a sewer rat.

Davidbanky:
Same reason I said he doesn't have integrity, can he ever admit to a fault ? He wants rob kill himself because nobody sees him as a role model .. Hehehehe ,

Pcunto is a lost little girl, he is used to being submissive and being a tool and badly needed someone to take him under their wings. I would have done that but the mugu has clearly shown his IQ is too low to support Bayern. This rejection has led him to apoche cra cra the airborne disease, and Pataki the gogo dancing gypsy also known as Bobriskyy

You know a lost little girl would always look for approval if she doesn't get it at home

airmark:

Pkasso , how did you get yourself among all these irresponsible people ? I can also say chelsea won premier league last season to brag and win arguments that chelsea is the best. If anybody tackles me on that, i have learnt the line to use - it was a mix up i wanted to write 2014/2015 season. Ajakaja40 don turn Mr. mixup , nice upgrade

Please carry your lapdog pcunto comot this thread. When you have finished using that tampon, dump him very far away from here. Anybody wey rank David Lulz as a defender and supports Bayern is definitely a malignant tumor and Delilah that must be terminated on sight.

I said last year, you and that asinwin lost little girl phoolishly said last season. You wan correct person you sef come gbagaun.

pkasso:
Our resident Bingo is foaming at the mouth again. Thank you for reminding us of your life story. You clearly have unresolved Daddy issues which is why you crave Ramuzaki's affection like oxygen. Your old man takes one look at you and wonders how a handicapped sperm like you came first in the first place and who would blame him. Aberrations like you belong to a grade C Nollywood horror movie. Dysgenic waste of weight and space. E to jo meta e. E be like say Masochistic demons don dey do Hit dem folks for that rumpled paper you call a brain again.
Ode. Did Bayern draw at Hamburg in 2015 as you claimed? Simple Logic must be like quantum physics to you. I'm beginning to lean towards the 'I am an Olodo' excuse. It's alright, we all can't be Einsteins.
Ajakaja in over his head. Anybody who thinks we shared the slightest thing in common needs to have their brain checked. Oya mention the person. What rubbish!
I leave you in the capable hands of airmark. I trust he will knock some sense into you.

Shut up your alabosi mouth you phoolish lost little girl. My life story? Your cluelessness is making me laugh. Odaaran ponbele

You jump into arguments wey no concern you and throw m0ronically effeminate snide remarks my way hoping to get a reaction, while famzing apoche cra cra as well. Lol you are a pitiful groupie.

Pcunto you had no old man. Actually you were a trick baby rejected by every and a painful reminder of your mam's hoe phase. Word on the street is she was the inspiration behind Sound Sultan's Hello Baale

pkasso:
"Masochistic demons don dey do Hit dem folks for that rumpled paper"

What is the meaning of this incoherent prattle? Abeg stop! Grammar no be by force.
Ohh I get it. Perhaps you were trying to tell us you are a submissive lost little girl with masochistic tendencies.

I was not even talking about last season like you phoolishly assumed so your attempt at correction was stewpid and consistent with your zombie mindset. Omo ase o kan be bi oya

In your eagerness to impress apoche cra cra you just made yourself look like the village ídiot.

Einstein? Hahahaha oh boy that is the beauty of the internet sha. Even an omorapala street urchin like you with an IQ in negative integers can claim to be Einstein, Newton and even Max Planck after a few sips of Ogidiga.

You are asking me who the person was? That is your assignment Alabosi. Trawl the entire NL Webspace. Your answer is right there

You're a Lost Little Girl pcunto

Donlittle:
Pippen ain't playing no games lol

Loool yeah if he could shoot.

Roland17:
With the Heats? absolutely done, Pat Riley just confirmed, however, i am convinced he can pass a physical with another NBA team. This ultimately depends on if still decides to pursue an NBA career. Friends like Wade have advised him to shut it down for the sake of his family, he insists he still wants to play, we shall see what happens.

Its hard. Can't blame the Heat for putting Bosh's health first. They invested substantially in him and haven't exactly gotten much ROI. So I am sure its not a decision they took lightly

On Bosh's part he must feel he still has a lot to offer. I mean he has had a career a lot of people would kill for. He was playing his best ball for sometime and its always difficult to leave the sport you love when you still believe you have a lot to give and worse when you don't do it on your own terms.

Perspective is key tho

airmark:
Ajakaja still dey around, i thought you and ramuzaki don go pokunso ni .

Omo ase

I no kuku blame you. Frustration from watching David Lulz and Cahill every week plus no European football don turn you to angry Fulani herdsman.

Typical Neverkusen. Never able to finish the job

Roland17:
Dem suppose lock Dembele for backyard with empty post and ball make him do shooting practice all night.. E.Mor was even able to make Navas work harder with less time on the pitch.

He does all the hard work. Just to finish na problem. Its annoying. I'm not sure he had a shot on target

Roland17:
@A40 and Dayo, abeg una dey watch Pulisic? See wetin that boy dey do ehhhhh....

His final balls brings thirst to any forward..

This Dortmund team get very bright future. If no be Keylor Navas and Dembele terrible shooting Dortmund shoulda won

Dan Iska Schürrle. Baba goal

Chai Madrid just dey use Dortmund inexperience to finesse them. E dey pain me

Dembouz really really need shooting practice

airmark:
So you want club to add makeshift defender? You are daft.

I have proven your senselessness did not start today. Oponu! Simple English we have been telling you. UEFA and Barca don't see him as a defender, he doesn't play there for his club but the stewpid apoche cra cra with a big empty gorodom of ategun between his ears will not stop chasing his own tail

I need to give myself a konk for arguing with this eediot

airmark:
Since Pique got injured and javi was used, that was accidental . Now i cant remember all the lies you told, i will first start by posting those pkasso,

Accidental ko kolomental ni

You are just obtuse! Shey na you injure am you lying apoche cra cra. Don't you know when to quit? Tueh

Bird brain. You are as useless as a candle in sunlight

pkasso:
Ogbeni, we don't want you misinforming people around here. You never know who might be reading your post. I am not responsible for what you post. I only interprete what i see which in this case is a lie. Did Bayern draw at Hamburg last year? The answer is NO. Were your previous lies like the Luiz-was-bought-before-Marquinhos one also mixups? If that's the case, then you clearly are not smart, which is not surprising considering you are an alumnus of the infamous Feyingbole grammar school. There is only one reasonable explanation for your gaffes: You are either a pathological liar or you are an Olodo. Choose one.

Weyrey alaso pcunto fara buruku e bale ko ma lo gba ese to'n gbe malu subu

I used to think you were a wannabe Stan but its pretty clear you are just a lost little girl desperate for Daddy's attention and approval.

Your phoolish attempt at pedantry was even wrong as Bayern did not play at Hamburg last year not in the league for sure, so don't stewpidly jump to correct or interpret what was not remotely your concern. I know you have a complex but don't try too hard to earn apoche cra cra's approval you are merely a tool.

I reiterate you are heavily demented for not recognizing the difference between lies and a mixup of chronological events. Zombie

And to think there was someone on this forum that once thought you were me. It shows you started well, its unfortunate you have since morphed into a pathetic and effeminate Alabosi

What a crying disgrace

airmark:
Meanwhile, Javi never played any crucial match for spain as CB. No sane football coach would ever do that when natural CBs are available, except an unfortunate being like you who derives joy in taking 2 steps forward towards his set-goals and 22 backwards. Sometimes i wonder if they don't do debates in secondary schools again.

Walahi them suppose crack your skull empty its contents inside a bowl and put it for one orita meta with some coins and cowries by the side

airmark:
Hummels is here, javi will be returned to his natural position, midfield or sold. [b]Every true bavarian knows this except

Hehehehehe Apoche cra cra and his usual m0ronic predictions on wax

airmark:
Transfermkt ko, oyingbomkt ni,

When a club tagged the player midfielder, uefa tagged him a midfielder ,.

So why are you arguing about Mascherano you self contradicting eediot

airmark:
See, stvpid statement , automatically they must have known you have always been poor with stats, and that you were referring to 2014 ? You are a fvcktard. so anyone who did nt know about the draw in 2014 is unreasonable?That means you are worse than an unreasonable human being for calling 2014 , last year. Chai

When you don't know the difference between a lie and a mix up of dates for an event that actually happened it clearly shows your stewpidity.

Any reasonable Bayern fan would know Bayern drew at Hamburg recently.

I would not expect you to understand judging by the terabytes of phoolishness streaming from your Apoche cra cra brain.

Ballers Season Finale

airmark:
He had told many lies that even made dayo to remove his cap that he used to cover his apari. I have lost counts , he once said at a particular week in bundesliga Dortmund was battling relegation, that same week the said team was topping the league . He is hustling to overtake dayo in this disgraceful act. It seems dayo don dey dull these days.

airmark:
What would pep have used javi yesterday as CB? For your info, the first game javi played for bayern he played as a midfielder in that 2011/2012, that time

The only Apoche cra cra that saw Xavi at RB in Kaduna

airmark:
So should we now believe that your poor english language usage made you to stvpidly make this definitive statement or you accept you goofed?

airmark:
After rijkaard cut it as a midfielder for milan, like i said in pages before, he never looked back. no club bought him /used/wanted to use him as a defender again. He played for holland as a midfielder subsequently

Eediot. Have you now seen that Rijkaard played in defense in the World Cup and Euros while you dubiously tried to convince the public otherwise? Weyrey alaso

pkasso:
Here's another one: "Bayern drew at Hamburg last year". I no know where the guy watch im own match.
Hamburg wey Bayern hammer. No be im fault Ramuzaki don infect am with im lie-lie. If he keeps this up, lie detector fit break down .

No wonder you rate David Lulz as a defender. Wannabe pedantic mugu that doesn't know the difference between simple mix up of dates and an actual lie.

Did Bayern play at Hamburg in the league in 2015? Smh

Any reasonable human being knows Bayern drew at Hamburg recently September (2014)

raumdeuter:
airmark, How is your Baba rahman doing these days? 5 straight losses in the Bundesliga

A40 see how Hojbjerg dey rappe the West Ham midfield

Its unfortunate the boy didn't deliver at Schalke. The emergence of Kimmich also meant no hope for him

I want to see more consistency from him though. Everybody is r@ping West Ham tbh

Roland17:
@A40 and raumdeuter

What is going on with Schalke 04? They had a very active summer transfer window, they got Bentaleb, Rahman, Embolo, konoplyanka, Naldo, Stambouli, however, for some reason they are unable to score but concede loads of goals.

I thought they would defeat Hoffenheim today to kick start their season, but they look lethargic, Klaus. H has had a troubled start to the season, i would love to see max meyer start games.

I don't quite understand why Max Meyer is not starting. He is their best goal threat from the middle.

Konoplyanka never quite delivered in Spain. So the jury is out on him. He was awful at the Euros

The season is young and Gladbach made a full recovery last season despite their terrible start

airmark:
I was expecting something new today and did nt want to write on past issues but let me write this , so now blind-rijkaard patnership you were shouting abut was something of particular days? You are a dumbass. Your problem is that you did nt know stuffs and when corrected you start shifting posts. UCL final is where lvg used his best legs and best formation he had always been known for with 3 defenders, de boer, koeman and reiziger. rijkaard was known as dm those days stop arguing blindly. Below are your posts i just wanted to disgrace you with your past post. If kanu nwankwo reads your posts he would cough 30 times before correcting you. He is free from heart issues though.

Ode ma leleyi sha. I will get to the nitty gritty of this your ret@rded post but before we proceed do you now agree that Rijkaard played in defense in Italia 90 and Sweden 92?

In your infinite stewpidity you always think the game of football is static. If you actually watched these games you would know why it was called the Blind-Rijkaard partnership not the Blind-Reiziger or Blind-De Boer partnership.

Now do you agree Rijkaard played in defense at the Euros and World Cup for Holland even after joining Milan or should I shove that fact into your apoche cra cra throat. I see you are still dancing hopscotch around that point. Let us close chapter of country where I proved your stewpidity before we go to club.

Lmao. This is like playing whack-a-mole

airmark:
Ahahahaha, foolish videos ? You have blamed everything , you will blame rijkaard soon. Meanwhile rijkaard in ucl final, ajax vs ac milan, was thanking you for recognising him as central defender for lvg in image below. apoda
What do you have for us for Day 3. We are already through with the first two days. We cant wait.

Hahahahaha see this mugu. Who is blaming what? You posted videos of the first match of a tournament that proved absolutely nothing but your stewpidity and dubious nature. If you push me further I would show you again that Rijkaard played in defense at Euro 92 like I proved to you he did in Italia 90.

As for the CL Final you would be very unfortunate if you don't show where I claimed he played in defense on that particular day. Onye nzuzu

Mizzzbeee:

Hehehehehe

Apoche cra cra. Thunder fire you for not admitting your goof

airmark:
Now lemme chip in this , your bringing rijkaard case to Mascherano's is very ludicrous. After rijkaard cut it as a midfielder for milan, like i said in pages before, he never looked back. no club bought him /used/wanted to use him as a defender again. He played for holland as a midfielder subsequently

I'm wondering why you are posting phoolish videos that don't disprove my argument. You must show Rijkaard never played at CB at any point

Van Tiggelen ko Van Kangaroo ni

Phool. This is how they lined up against the big boys not phacking Egypt

airmark:
Next time spell my moniker well so i will get notification of your comment. I use wikipedia ? The same wikipedia that was first used by ajakaja40 to support his rubbish position on mascherano? Now airmark cant use it. Ok i want to expose your friend again with youtube videos. If wikipedia and other sources are lying, watch the videos below and tell me what rijkaard played in those matches.
A40 claimed rijkaard started italia 90, euro 92 and usa 94 world cup matches as central defender. This he said to show that rijkaard ought to be called makeshift if mascherano is one. Below is his disgraceful post.



It would interest everyone that holland's opening games in all these competitions listed by ajakaja40, rijkaard played in front of the central defenders as a midfielder.

Italian 90

Koeman and Adri van Tiggelen (CBs)

First match vs egypt


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkyxSe2Q6LQ


Euro 92

Koeman and Adri van Tiggelen (CBs)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dge7L9hG1TI

usa 94

Koeman, frank de boer, van gobbel (CBs)

First match Vs Saudi arabia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58yRqk8BDQA


This is day 2 of his lying streak. We will see what's in the offing from him tomorrow.

Day 1 : PSG bought luiz before signing marquinhos

Day 2 : Rijkaard starting cb in italia 90, euro 92 and usa 94

Day 3 : ((((((((((((((((loading))))))))))))))))))

Bwahahahahaha. You have finally ran mad

Van Tiggelen ko Van Lionel ni. I have forgotten that teams only one match at a major tournament then go home afterward

Van Tiggelen was the Left back. You God forsaken sodomite

So if they asked you who was Germany's first choice central defensive partnership at the last World Cup you would tell us it was Hummels and Mertesacker. Eediot

sinizia:
Now to the discourse. After reading the rebuttal from you and Dayo, I've had a rethink seeing that I'm not entirely right, and also that there's no particular criteria that cuts across all scenarios. My fluctuating benchmark failed to describe Mike's exact position. As a matter of fact, I sought out 5 different websites and 4 of them called Mikel a midfielder without saying for sure if he's an AM, DM or CM. After much thought I've concluded that there no particular criteria thats absolute for judgement but rather a series of varying criteria. E.g:

The fluctuating criteria: while this criteria favors my argument for Mascherano, it fails woefully for Mikel. Calling Mikel a makeshift DM, CM or AM sounds retărded, and anyone can call him an AM or DM and he'd be right.

The "successful or prominent position" criteria: this criteria refers to a place where a player excelled the most or achieved success the most, and hence is always associated with that position. Judging by this criteria, a player like Rijkaard will always be a DM to not just me but the entire football lovers. His position as CB won't erase that fact. But this criteria also fails to address the Mascherano angle. At least 80% of Mascherano's trophies or achievement came while playing as a CB for Barca, but most people and I still see Mascherano as a DM till this minute.

The coach/club position criteria: this is criteria where where a club or coach wants a player to play might be different from the former position the player must've played. E.g: Blind started out as DM before LvG converted him to a RB, then to a DM at United, before moving him to a CB role last season. Currently, he has no chance of playing in a midfield position for United. Very soon, he might end up being recognized as a defender for United irrespective of what he's seen as outside United. This means that anyone, especially from a Barca fan angle, can boldly call Mascherano a defender/CB.

And finally,

The "popular opinions" criteria: this is the criteria where majority opinions/views are generally used to describe a players makeshift or main position. E.g: Azpilicueta has played more games at the left-back than RB and achieved prominence there too, successfully ending the Chelshit careers of Cole, Bertrand and Ruiz. But the popular consensus is that he's a makeshift LB, and should a quality LB be gotten, Ivanovic should be thrown out for Azplilicueta to collect back his natural position. It's the same reason why I believe that any/most club looking to buy Mascherano from Barcelona will likely buy him to play the DM position which he started his career with and still plays for the NT. I

The popular opinion criteria is the most used and generally accepted criteria.

In all, I agree that anyone that currently calls Mascherano a DM or CB is correct.

You make some solid points. However the concept of the role a player can play is vast and multi-layered. I'm going to merge all your criterias together and address them forthrightly.

For starters it is far too simplistic to throw words like makeshift for a player that has or could have evolved either due to the squad on ground or purely borne out of tactical necessity

Certain players are naturally blessed with the gift of versatility and simply adjust easily to certain roles. Sometimes even at roles they hate playing. At that point it is important to detach your mind from their previous position. Football is a dynamic game and what works with club/coach A might not work with club B

If a Pep Guardiola or Marcelo Bielsa bought a Javi Martinez for instance it is very likely they would play him at CB. Now if Juve were to buy Mascherano. They had 4 CB's already. What sense would it make to throw him in that congested setting when he can still play at DM.

You brought up the Rijkaard example which highlights how a coach or a tactical switch can permanently alter how a player is viewed. Perception is still key because Rijkaard was one half of a CB pairing that won the Euros. He still played at CB for the Netherlands while at Milan and in his twilight years he went back to Ajax and formed arguably the best defensive partnership in Europe as well. However it took just 1 coach to show us he could be great in multiple positions.

If you know me you should know by now that I don't hang my hat on general/popular opinion. I watch these games and draw my own conclusions that is why I could say two years ago at the peak of his hype that Hazard is overrated and that is what we saw last season and are seeing this year (without being immodest)
Tactics and actual performance is what I look at not the position the general public assume you play. If coach after coach deems you fit to keep playing a position then the issue of makeshift flies out the window.

Makeshift is David Alaba, Michael Carrick, Xabi Alonso playing at CB.

Nihilist:
Matic is crap bruv.

Your point would be valid if Matic was actually doing any defensive work.

Lmao the Serbian Christian Obodo

A40:
Lol like say Agüero know difference btw home and away

Lewwwwl

Shey Dortmund never scam us with this Hummels buy so?

bykebyke:
Sergi..Right winger,CM,DM,CB,GK,Right back,False 9. Dude is even benching the dude that was bought to bench Dani Alves.

Sergi Roberto has not played CB in a CL k.o game, he never play RB for Euros.

Davidbanky:
My head is just swells whenver I see him on the field, Carlo will give us te champions league, I have a very good feeling about that, Ribery is playing well too, the last time he did we won the UCL, I hope it's time for another, it's the semi and final am worried about, cos semi final is our birth right now..

I am wondering how phoolish Stuttgart must be feeling for passing up on him.

We just need a bit of injury luck on our side. Carlo is pragmatic and I trust he would set us up to capitalize on the weaknesses of our opponents

His first test is on Wednesday. Fortunately he knows Atleti intoto