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airmark:
Rudiger and Manolas both played for Roma, we know who pushed them to Ucl semifinal for the first time in their history and who got them flogged out in group stage.

Manolas is a Roma legend, Rudiger has been forgotten.

You're just shameless and your problem is you don't know when to quit

airmark:
I respect your soccer analysis. But telling me manolas is another benatia and that he is not an upgrade to cahill, is a joke. Manolas is a blend of both old-school and modern day cb. He can match a swift attacker with speed and can compete with a bullying striker.

hensben:
Manolas is another Bernatia..Believe me he will not be an upgrade to either Cahil, Luiz or azpi, just another CB. Rudiger purchase is better.

airmark:
I remember i was almost crying when Roma refused to sell Manolas, and quickly pushed Rudiger to us. Lordfalcao and others attacked me as usual. Now our defence is still a joke with their Rudiger featuring prominently.

Lampard must not be stupid and rely on this Boathand's boy, to lead the team from the back.

Apa scout, scout olobe when even your favorite student of the Citadel was warning you. Were alagidi no gree

Ibime:
What of Sabitzer the Man Utd and Bayern reject making UCL team of the season. Is he also one of the cream that rose to the top? Is his own cream whipped cream abi na pomade or vaseline?

I'm not on the bad belle timing you people are on. Sabitzer is a good player. His only mistake was joining Bayern. Bayern is not for everybody. Certain standards dey.

Look at Upamenonsense. Who's mid btw like we told y'all but if he didn't join Bayern he would never have been exposed

The difference between them and Rudiger is Rudiger didn't downgrade, he upgraded to a better team and is shining

Ibime:
Point is Rudiger could easily be anonymous. Signing for Madrid alone is 90% of the battle cos you will enter latter stages of UCL before one or two years pass. Militao injure, Nacho enter, barracks remain. The barracks make the soldiers over there, not the other way round. Even Militao is not a great defender compared to many of his Brazilian comrades

No. Not buying that dubious narrative. They still went through a 4 year CL drought in recent times.

Using their CL excellence against the players individually is absurd. I can push similar narrative against Benzema, Ronaldo

They're not just handed the trophies cos they're Madrid. They still have to go out and win. Rudiger has performed at Chelsea and now Madrid.

Again you're free to not give him his credit cos you people just can't put your hands up and agree you were wrong. But the man has not stopped performing while your club keeps declining

Ibime:
Na you bring UCL team.of the season as a mark of quality I should bow to

I'm seeing your guy Hummels there, and even bloody Ian Maatsen a Chelsea and Holland NT reject

Hummels had a good season. I'm not that much of a hater to not admit that.

Maatsen also played well.

Doesn't change the reality that Hummels won and has won nothing as far as CL ball is concerned. Couldn't even get to the Finals with us

Ibime:
Don't forget to hail Hummels inclusion at the same time by those with skin in the game

When palm oil rub one finger, all fingers are stained.

Wetin consign me with Hummels. Just another serial CL loser. Came to Bayern and could not win, he left and we won again

Where him trophy

airmark:
Primarily ko, Tertiarily ni.

So he was great under Sarri abi? You be ajakaja40.

Joezinho:
Only a drunk shekpite like you will argue that manolas is better than rudiger..



Take your pills sir. You are not feeling well mr belotti

Airdunce. Others warned this goofy. Not just me

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airmark:
Ibime, diggz, please come forward. Lordfalcao, a40, raumdeuter, and those that were against me on Rudiger, fxxk off.

God no go kuku shame me.

God don kuku disgrace you. This one pass shaming

donlittle25:
Steady matter don tire me. Every once in a while, he says some wild filth that reminds you of Ersan

People don't know what generational talent means walahi. Is it by #1 pick?

That means Mahomes is not generational, even Luka cos why wasn't he the #1 pick, he wasn't even #2

Somebody that was cooking Magic and Bird in them scrimmages back in 84.

Who didn't know Jordan was coming

WhoDeyHause:
Slump in form for how many years? Egbon leave agenda fess several Chelsea fans have been giving instances where rudiger fvcked up, either in premier league, fa cup, champions league for us under three different managers to show his inconsistencies till he finally became a beast under tuchel's system, screenshots from past seasons when fans called him kpon kpon or corporate shoe.
Does that mean all of them have a agenda against Rudi? Or you watched Chelsea games more than those fans then?

No. You people are overly emotional and over critical. Every loss every mistake it's like the whole sky is falling and the world is ending. Why do you think a lot of us non Chelsea fans come to this thread to laugh. It's because you people are over dramatic.

Calling him kponkpon or corporate shoe is regular fan banter. Logical, non emotional people that actually sabi this ball know Rudiger's qualities and that's why he ended up in Madrid and is performing excellently now.

I have never denied Rudiger had his struggles but they were primarily under Lampard. Who is the perfect defender you people have had in recent memory?

Shebi you guys thought you had found it in Koulibaly? How many seasons before una chase am away.

airmark:
In your ajakaja brain, when did his slump in form start and when did it end?

You are arguing about our own Rudiger with us? Ajakaja40

Argue with UEFA you useless Philistine

Anyone with working brain knows Rudiger's slump in form was primarily under Lampard. Before that fraud of a coach he was dominating Finals and winning MOTM recognition

Rudiger has put you to shame. Olote Agbaya. Olodo scout. All the defenders you have hyped to be better than Rudiger where are they today? You're fvckin garbage man

Trophies, even polling booth awards recognition. No leg for you to stand on your Rudiger hate.

Ibime:
At least apply logic and don't contradict yourself.

That was the biggest bus parking performance of all time, with his midfielders sitting in his box

There was nothing to pocket. It's not by winning a shoulder to shoulder then waving arms to the crowd to draw attention to a routine defensive action.

What are you talking about? I'm referring to both legs. Did they park the bus in the first leg?

Haaland barely had a sniff at goal over both legs. Facts

Whether you remain adamant on not giving credit where it's due is not really my concern. The people with skin in the game have selected him now 3 times in the last 4 seasons and he's the only common denominator in defense in all of Europe.

airmark:
Below is your oga's best rating for the match and unlike Rudiger, Hummels was rated higher than his keeper, so keep your fvckin mouth shut.

.1 difference.

Is this donkey insane? How does that change the fact that Kobel had to make more saves than Courtois. Was that not your initial argument. Or are you demented

Fvckin dweeb.

timbros:


It's no longer 3 ATB protecting Rudiger. It's now 4 CMs in front of him

Very soon, it will be 2 GKs behind him.

Agenda must agend...

Why didn't they make UEFA team of the season

Shebi it was those CMs helping him pocket Haaland

nateevs:
Not true. There were a few like myself who didn't get the Rudiger cursing. Any underperformances at the were grossly overstated..... from mostly people who could not see past a temporary struggle.

I always thought he was a very good defender and I am not shocked he's doing well now. I also refuted 3ATB thing. It was bad attempt at the time for explaining why he turned good overnight.

The truth is that he didn't turn good overnight. Like A40 concurs, he was always seriously good.

Good to see you're one of the voices of reason. Imagine someone saying Rudiger was bad for over 3 seasons and I'm supposed to take such weak punditry seriously

His slump in form was well documented and he recovered even before leaving Chelsea. The 3 ATB talk is nonsense talk because even at that he was still the standout contributor

Made Champions League team of the season Back to back and then this season as well.

We all saw how he pocketed Haaland when they faced City but I saw Ibime still talking about Central midfielders menenemenene

People working overtime to not give him his due credit. I'm just glad he proved all the doubters and cynics wrong

timbros:
Imagine if Rudiger didn't succeed in Madrid... What we would have been hearing here.

God pass them. Bad people God pass them

airmark:
Better than Rudiger that was on AWOL.

Even A40 with limited football knowledge, couldn't help but shout the name of Rudiger's saviour.

You're a certified m0ron. What is keeper work for pitch if not to make saves?

I see now why all your player evaluations usually go phbbbbtttt

Your Hummels did worse then since Kobel made more saves than Courtois.

Ibime:
Man be quiet. Disasi probably blaming Poch likewise yet we can see big differences between Disasi and Chalobah performance under the same Poch. Poch defence is much more porous than Lampards ever was

Rudiger aka kpon kpon shoe aka Corporate Shoe had his reputation long before Lampard came to Chelsea. All of the below are from regular Chelsea watchers during Sarri era

We don't need a casual observer with agenda against Airmark to tell us what we watch weekly. Rest.

Let that hurt go Mr Man. No be you go tell me wetin to do

Nobody's fault your man's fat Frank can't coach

You want us to throw away Rudiger's MOTM performances in a Final just because 1 or 2 Chelsea fans on this forum tossed one or two banter comments in the heat of meaningless matches?

Should I spam this thread with Rudiger praise posts as well??

Nothing consign me with all this una kponkpon corporate shoe beer parlor banter. All I know is that time has vindicated my stance on Rudiger.

Since he left your team has been in shambles while he continues to be one of the most consistent performers at Madrid. This is what we know not the other cho cho cho una dey talk

timbros:
Ibime will never agree with you once he has formed an opinion on a player.

Airmark own be say even if the L dey choke am for throat, e go still dey stubborn.

Na him way. I'm used to it by now. All that matters is he prove him wrong before leaving Chelsea and has joined Madrid to continue proving them wrong

swiz123:
Ibime is that elder people advise their kids not to mingle with because they are bad influence. Him and his cohorts has decimated this thread with horrible takes and successfully influenced some fible minded people's opinion.

He blamed everyone except Lampard. When it was obvious Rudiger had improved, he said it was Tuchel's 3 ATB and he will be exposed once he leaves. Rudiger went to Real Madrid and these shameless elders followed him there to wish him badluck, always counting how many games he started just to satisfy their ego that they were right all along.

I pity anyone following the opinion of someone who wished his team get relegated if it means retaining Lampfraud as manager.

Person like Ibime has big problem admitting wrong judgment. I know their type and pattern very well

Vendetta from Lampard failure is what he's transfering to Rudiger and in typical Ijaw man agidi will never agree they were wrong.

I said it earlier that cream will always rise to the top. After the fat fraud Lampard relegated Rudiger to the bench what happened? Huge embarrassing failure. Even the guys he played over Rudiger? Huge embarrassing failure.

Tuchel reinstates Rudiger. Rudiger becomes one of the top 5 defenders in Europe and wins the CL.

He leaves, goes on to success in Madrid. Chelsea defense and all the defenders that were supposedly better than Rudiger. More Huge Embarrassing failure

Roland17:
C. McDavid has made it to the Stanley Cup Finals. He needs to win a title desperately to cement his place in the NHL. It’s funny how no one wants to touch their respective conference trophies…

It's about time. He's been the best player in the league for the past 3 seasons or so although he gets a lot of help from Draisaitl. Their combo is as 1a/1b as it gets

As two of them no touch trophy who go come lose bayi. I don't believe in these nonsense superstitions anyway. Jimmy tried to do it last season with the Heat and it ended in tears

Khanben:
With due respect, that is one coach. If jordan was a generation talent, he would not have gone 3rd in the draft. The way I take it is how generational talent is defined. That is the guy you hear talk about him in middle school, up until high school then college if they bothered to go. At a time when sports media was still in its infancy, the whole nation knew about KAJ before he got into high school.

Chale what are you on about? In the 80s, GMs and the NBA in general had a size/big man fetish.

Nobody believed you could even win a title with a Shooting guard as your best player no matter how generational they were. Till Jordan did

How do you explain a team with the #1 pick drafting Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) ahead of Zeke

The Rockets literally drafted Ralph Sampson two seasons before and still drafted Hakeem. That's to tell you the kind of Big fetish teams had back then

You're conflating a prodigy with a generational talent. They are not the same. All the laurels Michael Jordan won before even stepping foot into the league points to generational talent. Hearing about a guy in middle school just means they were a prodigy. Simple. Nothing to do with generational talent

By your logic Mahomes is not a generational talent. And Trevor Lawrence is, after all Mahomes was drafted as low as 10th and unheralded in college

Jordan no be generational talent?

A player legendary coach Bobby Knight called the greatest player he'd ever seen before he even entered NBA. Olympic Champion and best player, NCAA champ, College player of the year at 21

God save us from akpuruka punditry

airmark:
A40 no dey hear word. We call him ajakaja40.

I see say Rudiger victory still dey pepper your yansh. Olote agbaya

This your bad belle na him don jinx all the players you dey support so

Ibime:
Stop capping. Any player can have a decent rating in a match just like Bosingwa at Camp Nou

Rudiger was below par for Chelsea till Tuchel. Chelsea fan has already sign posted you to his disgraceful performance against Roma in a 3-0 defeat

The goal at 1.30 below conceded to Roma was Rudiger first 3 seasons in a nutshell


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2GRnVpoAuA?si=Yf4aYXFR2KOIN7zd

Read that article again

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/the-resurgence-of-antonio-rudiger-under-thomas-tuchel-and-a-new-adventure-at-real-madrid/

I will take that submission over biased takes about Rudiger here.

All signs point to the fact that he had his proper stretch of poor form mainly under Lampard. I don't have time for regular jejune arguments over mistakes that players make on game to game basis.

He was appearing and playing regularly under Conte and Sarri when fit. Again he had no real problems till your guy Lampard came along. These are the facts

airmark:
Raumdeuter's subject <pun intended>

You're a doofus normally so I no surprise

Rudiger has to put you to shame once again meanwhile all your favorite defenders. Manolas, Upamenonsense, Koulibaly. Huge embarrassing failure

Why do you have such a terrible eye for talent man

BlueAngel444:
lol Tuchel taught Rudiger how to play in mere hours before starting him in games as soon as he got the job. E no add up o

These people are just saying anything at this point.

So Tuchel magically just turned him to one of the best defenders in Europe at 27. Does that even make sense

They said Chelsea was holding Hazard back let him go to a big club. He went and became a generational flop

They said Rudiger no sabi. He went to Madrid and became defense generalissimo

Is God not wonderful

timbros:
Rudiger is already disliked in this street so any mistake he did was bloated.

He was decent all through his time in Chelsea. Bad run of form happens to anyone. But because it's Rudiger, he is always under the microscope.

Under Tuchel, the excuse was community defending. Question is, does Ancelotti play community defending too? How come Rudiger is excelling there?

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/the-resurgence-of-antonio-rudiger-under-thomas-tuchel-and-a-new-adventure-at-real-madrid/

Read this unbiased detailed article. Explains everything about Rudi and how he struggled under Lampard and his clueless formations

On this thread people are unwilling to let go of their previous biases so their talk is understandable.

Even the community defending still requires a level of ability to execute. What they don't realize is cream will always rise to the top. If Rudiger no good he will not smell starting shirt in Madrid, no community defending will help him.

WhoDeyHause:
What of in the premier league where we didn't even finish in top 4, champions league nko, how we even won that final was a surprise cause some of us didn't think we will in that terrible season. He was even worse under conte.

And yet he was MOTM in the Finals

The problem is you people will not admit you were a mid team that's why you cannot compete on all fronts

WhoDeyHause:
Rudiger gave away a pass in the early minutes that was not punished before being beaten easily for Sweden's goal I remember now. If low was happy with what he saw he would have started their last match against south Korea since boateng was suspended. Lampard had his problems but he was not really at fault for rudiger, was it not tomori that was shining under him?

Is there match where defender no dey make mistake?

That is merely proof Low did not know what he was doing. Doing gaga shuffle with your CB pairings at a world cup final?

The two matches he didn't play Germany lost. Simple

Lampard trajectory vs Rudiger's is proof Lampard did not know what he was doing

Good under Conte delivering MOTM performances in Finals, good under Sarri, immense under Tuchel, Beasting under Ancelotti

No coincidence he played his worst under the most incompetent manager of all