pleep:

meanwhile axums sister worships the white mans nuts

pleep, I know you are a little smarter than that. You give him and others the satisfaction of being easily provoked. btw, i don't believe she is even Somali. Again do to resort to that, its childish and disgusting, and it is your assassination of your dignity and character.

TerryCarr:
to be fair Christianity did come from a light skin part of the world

Indeed i don't think skin color was a factor for them, at the same time the rulership still represented themselves as naturally they were. While the saints was represented by the Byzantium ideal or standards. That pretty much what is written in the Museum under the picture art in Khartoum.

Radoillo:
ababda,

While I don't feel knowledgeable enough to get involved in this race question as it concerns the Sudanese people, I still have to point out that some of the lighter-coloured people in the paintings from Christian Nubia were not native Nubians, but high-ranking churchmen from Egypt or the Byzantine world (like John the Golden Voice depicted in the second link) or early non-Nubian Christian saints.

Like i'm sure you know the top echelon of Church administration in Christian Nubia (as well as early Ethiopia) were filled mostly with Egyptians, and one has to carefully distinguish them in the artworks from the natives.

Radoillo, they are nubians through and through. All the painting is on the second floor of Sudan National Museum. However the majority of the painting is not posted on the internet of eparch, queen mothers, and bishops. For example this.

[img]http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-RW006429.jpg?size=67&uid=ea01e545-05f3-4f00-a731-2cbe493a5241[/img]

Painting of Christ Protecting a Nubian Prince in Faras Basilica, Sudan
Coptic paintings on a plastered stone wall depict robed figures and floral borders. The painting adorned a wall at the basilica founded probably in the late seventh or early eighth century at Faras, formerly the capitol of the northern Nubi an kingdom of Nobatia. Faras was flooded by the waters of Lake Nasser in the 1960s. Photographed at Faras, Sudan, 1963.

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006429/painting-of-christ-protecting-a-nubian-prince?irpid=27795


[img]http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-RW006426.jpg?size=67&uid=6fafd2a1-f891-4781-9f29-40952804bac6[/img]

Painting of Nubian Queen with the Virgin and Child
In an early 12th century painting, the Virgin and Child stand with [b]Queen Martha of Nubia, [/b]holding a crucifix, and an unnamed martyr. The painting was uncovered on the north wall of the Christian Basilica founded probably in the late seventh or early eighth century at Faras, formerly the capitol of the northern Nubian kingdom of Nobatia. The area was later flooded by the waters of Lake Nasser. Photographed at Faras, Sudan, 1963

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006426/painting-of-nubian-queen-with-the-virgin




[img]https://britishmuseumblog.files./2014/08/anderson-pl-2_544.jpg?w=544&h=1539[/img]

Wall painting of a Nubian queen protected by the Virgin Mary and Child (Sudan National Museum 24362)

http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/08/08/death-the-great-equaliser-christianity-on-the-middle-nile/

lighter-coloured people

It should never be about skin color, which is redundant.

The excavation is done by Sudanese and Polish team, which still covers the monuments in that period.

Again you see all these painting and more at the National Museum in Sudan on the second floor if you visit. This is suppose to be about a wedding, and not about the history of the nile region.

superdog531:


Sudan isn't exactly racism free its true they don't like anyone who is different in the time I have been here I've seen alot of racism towards the surrounding countries I attend college here where people are more educated but their is still racism
Even to our own people if you are too light skinned you'll be called halabi(in a derogatory way) and if you're too black you'll be called abd

I somewhat agree to disagree, i am not into airing out our problems on a foreign forum, within our own social spaces yes, we can debate those issues.

Superdog531 I may send you a link of our facebook and instragram page. I like your spirit, it is good to have different views, with your views it is going to be a great deal of debate. LOL

superdog531:


My use of the word bantu here is incorrect bantu is language group the correct the to say is nilo saharan these aren't used in Sudan
I bare no ill feelings towards somali or other africans most Sudanese people are very kind but their is much discrimination towards horners mostly Habesha but somalis also face similar racism
Its true that Ethiopian music is enjoyed I listen to it sometimes
About the painting with the nubian queen notice her hair that isn't very common among the women of modern Sudan I have seen some paintings here in Sudan I'm not sure from when but it shows a nubian woman with african features with a baby or a nubian warrior
Also good luck in learning arabic

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You have to go to the Sudan National Museum on the second floor, and the features of the women is very common and lets not deny that. For example this is our people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxjlCGrs6WM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBveQ84hC6A




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6f0wxHeWlU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoVSf7MoGw4

Which i have no apology for.

Also good luck in learning arabic

I can speak, but i definitely need to learn how to write, but the guys in facebook is helping me a great deal. Thanks.

Actually enjoyed this performance from Egypt.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbNmHrdkblU

superdog531:


I'm not sure but most Sudanese consider themselves better

That i agree with, and realitically we have to deal with our regional issues within Sudan, and if you are from the North as you say, you know how some people view other people from the other regions, not all people but some.

superdog531:
First of all i'd like to start by mentioning that im north sudanese and a resident in khartoum.We are not related to somalis we may have some similar features but that is because of race mixing with the arabs.We are mixed nubian(nilo saharan) and arab.Here in Sudan we do not hate bantus we much prefer them over the horners
Sudanese can range in color and hair texture all the way from jet black(azrag)with kinky hair to olive white(halab) with straight hair the reason for the atrocities in the south was cause religion not race once there was much racism towards the but that has died out now and now there is very extreme hate towards horners.
I have brown skin and straights hair and consider myself a mix of bantu and arab
are feature are very mixed
The bejas in the east of sudan may be related because there land was under control by the horners but the rest are not

Although i grew up in New Zealand, but my family is from Northern Sudan. However to be perfectly honest i never ever heard the expression bantus until i came on the internet because no one in Sudan as i noticed ever use that expression or give a damn about that.. Indeed, we do range in colors, but visiting the Sudan National Museum in Khartoum while visiting my family the Christian art look very identical to the people now, why is that you think? For example this, and you see this and other art works in the second floor of the Museum, i pretty much go there every time i visit my family, to relax my mind, although they need to do something in regards to the air condition system.

Christian art before Middle Nile valley became predominant islamic.
http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/08/08/death-the-great-equaliser-christianity-on-the-middle-nile/
http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006433/portrait-of-saint-jiovanus-xisostomos

Sudanese regardless of complexion
http://sudanembassy.com.pk/ar/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Afra-mool.jpg

http://sudanembassy.com.pk/ar/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AB-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A/

We have to be realistic, which i am and not deny the obvious.


However to say that as a result to mixing is to deny ourselves, as i said to members here most Sudanese don't have anything against other African groups including horners, although many Ethiopians and Eritrean work as maids for rich people and other activities which i will not mention. Lastly, many musicians such as Teddy(Ethiopian) is pretty much popular in Sudan, and many people within our own forums will disagree with you on that one, but you can politely debates this within our forums on instragram, sudan net, and facebook.

Genetic Diversity of a Certain Ethinic Group is done by DNA & Genetic studies. Sudanese & Etiopian has the highest Gene DIVERSITY = 24.
people of greece has the lowest = 2.

High Gene Diversity That means people are ancient & original.

This means That & Ethiopian Sudanese are the most ancient people in the world. It goes without saying That people of north Sudan Ethiopian & CARRY similar features .
You can not Differntiate Between Dangla, Shwiaga, Halfaween, & other north sudanese & Ethiopian people.
I believe That once upon a time we provenance one country or you can say one civilization. So north sudanese are here since the start of history.

http://sudanforum.net/showthread.php?t=171155&page=8

http://sudanforum.net/showthread.php?t=177873
You can politely debate us there in Arabic and English, my arabic is bad, speak but cannot write which is a shame on my part, but i have my cousin help me in translation on facebook, and many other Sudanese on instragram is helping me with my arabic, which is great.

KidStranglehold:


Well for one there was never really a "Nubian" people during antiquity. Especially during the time of the Ancient Egyptians. There were various different ethnic groups in the area of Sudan. When the Romans came they referred to the people south of Egypt as "Nubian". The Nubian people today are a recent entity. As again the word "Nubian" is recent. Not only that, but Nubians today are not one monolithic people, but various ethnics. You should know this since I'm guessing you're from Sudan.


As for them being the "Vietnam" of Africa. I say this because not only were both the Nubians and Vietnamese fighters that NEVER gave up, people found it EXTREMELY hard to conquer the two. Egypt only conquered Nubia once, but Nubia not only also conquered Egypt but on many occasions came close to destroying Egypt. Not only that, but Nubia not only OUTLIVED Egypt, but the area of Nubia resisted the Egyptians, Assyrians, Persians, Romans(yes Romans!), Arabs, British,etc. They were extremely hard to conquer/suppress. Just like the Vietnamese who resisted the Chinese, Mongols(yes Mongols), French, Americans,etc.

To put it simple the Nubians like the Vietnamese were underdogs always resisting other people.

Oh, you are talking about ancient history. Like i told Terry the history of the region is waaaay to complex.

Egypt only conquered Nubia once,

Due to the fact you had supposedly Nubians in Egypt especially during the 12th dynasty and part of the 18th dynasty went to war with groups further south, So it is pretty much a complex history which does not fit neatly in the narrative of the Egyptian vs Nubian dynamics. We discuss this on instragram, both some like minded Sudanese and Egyptian alike. It was more or less ruling families or good old fashion nepatism. They elevated themselves to "gods". Similar to many countries, group of people or individuals today unfortunately.

for example this
https://books.google.com/books?id=jF2jq5JrkS4C&pg=PA253&lpg=PA253&dq=mentuhotep+ii+nubian+origin&source=bl&ots=SK2UnzDC2a&sig=hL3Szu-YIeL3cWYpsBw0Sz8_2mU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nlqvVIXZCMrToATghoGYDQ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=mentuhotep%20ii%20nubian%20origin&f=false

It is a little more complicated. I wish it was not.

but Nubians today are not one monolithic people

When people think of nubians in Sudan, it is usually the people that live in the Dongola, and Wadi Halfa area as i noticed. I know you were saying Darfurian nubians, but honestly i have never heard a Darfurian say they were nubian, but i can be wrong but i never personally encounter that.

You should know this since I'm guessing you're from Sudan.

Family from Sudan yes, and don't assume everyone in Sudan knows about the history of the Nile valley especially from different regions within the country. It is like saying the average (not all) igbos or yorubas from Nigeria is knowledgable about Fulani, Hausa, or Kanuri history, in fact most of them are not. Also, some people may go to the National Museum during primary school especially nile valley Sudanese, and like everyone else may develop other interests, and pay little attention or care less for history, and from most people perspective that is a long time ago. instead of living in the past, most people like to live in the here and now. It is usually people that has a interest in history that really care for these kind of things. You have many people especially Northern Sudanese who are archaeologist along with their Egyptian, and western colleagues that study the history of the Nile kingdoms intensively. Like i said earlier you have a growing group on facebook, instragram, and other social media outlets, that are discussing the history of the region more. That is where i get my information from Sudanese on instragram.

KidStranglehold:


Which part?

All of it actually?

KidStranglehold:
Forth would be the Nubians? Even though there really isn't a such thing as one "Nubian" people, the people of Sudan are like the Vietnamese of Africa. If you catch my drift.

Can you explain that? because i don't get it

The nubian people Wadi Halfan, Dongola, among others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5cJdp1cx2w

Typical wedding.

TerryCarr:

but you don't change much ether if you don't have much of an outside influence from others. these people been isolated for thousands of years


"The Andaman islands have been inhabited for several thousand years, at the very least. The earliest archaeological evidence yet documented goes back some 2,200 years; however, the indications from genetic, cultural and isolation studies suggests that the islands may have been inhabited as early as the Middle Paleolithic. The indigenous Andamanese people appear to have lived on the islands in substantial isolation from that time until the 18th century CE."


and then we got Aboriginal Australians
"in a genetic study in 2011, researchers found evidence, in DNA samples taken from strands of Aboriginal people's hair, that the ancestors of the Aboriginal population split off from the ancestors of the European and Asian populations between 62,000 and 75,000 years ago—roughly 24,000 years before the European and Asian populations split off from each other. These Aboriginal ancestors migrated into South Asia and then into Australia, where they stayed, with the result that, outside of Africa, the Aboriginal peoples have occupied the same territory continuously longer than any other human populations. These findings suggest that modern Aboriginal peoples are the direct descendants of migrants to leave Africa up to 75,000 years ago. This finding is supported by earlier archaeological finds of human remains near Lake Mungo that date to 45,000 years ago."

homo sapiens idaltu looks like an aboriginal to a degree

I think that is more or less isolation Terry, for example any group of people that "let say" isolate themselves or marry within themselves will develop certain characteristics that separate themselves from other people. That is why certain groups nearly all look alike from a outside observer point of view. You see this around the world which is common sense.

TerryCarr:

im talking about looks. all of these people are Asian

I think it is nearly about the same Terry.

Africans.


















[img]http://1.bp..com/-_k0Knu-CGXQ/Un9O_4O7VkI/AAAAAAAAqqM/WV78L_hvM_E/s320/nigerian-c.gif[/img]

TerryCarr:

..
https://www.nairaland.com/1862144/arabization-sudan

the darfur were being raped by the mixed Arabs

To be honest with you Terry, that is pretty much a tribal affair taking place within, and the fact of the matter 60 percent of the Sudanese army are Dafurians, and that say a great deal.

plus Egypt controlled you many times

I think both me and you went through this route before, but i guess you may have reading comprehension, i blame it on your American school system.

Various pharaohs of Nubian origin are held by some Egyptologists to have played an important part towards the area in different eras of Egyptian history, particularly the 12th Dynasty. These rulers handled matters in typical Egyptian fashion, reflecting the close cultural influences between the two regions.

...the XIIth Dynasty (1991–1786 B.C.E.) originated from the Aswan region. As expected, strong Nubian features and dark coloring are seen in their sculpture and relief work. This dynasty ranks as among the greatest, whose fame far outlived its actual tenure on the throne. Especially interesting, it was a member of this dynasty that decreed that no Nehsy (riverine Nubian of the principality of Kush), except such as came for trade or diplomatic reasons, should pass by the Egyptian fortress and cops at the southern end of the Second Nile Cataract. Why would this royal family of Nubian ancestry ban other Nubians from coming into Egyptian territory? Because the Egyptian rulers of Nubian ancestry had become Egyptians culturally; as pharaohs, they exhibited typical Egyptian attitudes and adopted typical Egyptian policies. (Yurco 1989) [21]

In the New Kingdom, Nubians and Egyptians were often so closely related that some scholars consider them virtually indistinguishable, as the two cultures melded and mixed together.

The history is a little complicated than that, which is obvious. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

you guys hate negroid features don't deny it.

Like i said Terry, come to the country an see things for yourself, and you will be surprised what people actually think, and you will be ashamed of what you written, which i think is quite silly. I hope you don't have a inferiority complex terry, i hate to see that.


Lastly, lets discontinue this dialogue because it does not serve the purpose for this thread.

TerryCarr:

My people in America got raped

I had to correct you there Terry, i think that statement is more about yourself and your society, and culture more than any of us here. Terry it is obvious you never been nor traveled to the African continent. Reading about the a place online is not the same as going there and interacting with the various people and cultures, and fighting with people on the internet is not hardly representative of a entire people or culture. My suggestion is travel to many countries as you can and see things for yourselves. I have a feeling what you written (past tense), and once you visit will change your whole perspective about everything, and you will later feel guilty about what you had written here.

TerryCarr:

but you replied. and yes they are part Caucasian especially the Maasai. they are mixed with the so called "cushtics" you can see it.

OK, LOL. Nobody here will take you seriously anymore, but at the same time i respect although it is pretty much not accurate.

TerryCarr:

you got raped by Egyptians. but as i said before Caucasian features are not native to SSA. Sudan and parts of the horn are mixed with the white north and the black south.

Your comeback is so pathetic it does not even warrant a reply. So according to you these people are part Caucasian.



Kikukyu

Maasai



Rwandan





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jSDWk_zrI

You sounds pathetic Terry.

KenyanLady:


Yes Northern Sudanese, Ethiopians, Somalis and Eritreans are mixed race, you guys are not real Africans.


Northern Sudanese girl, She doesn't look very much like real African girl.

Really. What is a real African? Can you define that? Interestingly before the islamic period, this is how the people depicted themselves

[img]http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-RW006433.jpg?size=67&uid=1f98f9a5-4a37-42e5-a6e0-163cf79172f2[/img]







http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006429/painting-of-christ-protecting-a-nubian-prince?irpid=27795

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006433/portrait-of-saint-jiovanus-xisostomos?irpid=27795

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006426/painting-of-nubian-queen-with-the-virgin?irpid=27795

and which one looks similar to the pre islamic art the lady you posted or


or her.


it is pretty much obvious.

Kenyanlady, what noteworthy things your ancestors left behind? Inquiring minds like to know. I know about pre colonial Nigeria, which is impressive, what about you kikuyus? lol

gallivant:


No we don't.Everybody can keep their cultures and do business regardless.What does ones culture have to do with infrastructure, trade, investments etc?What is Pan Africanism?You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Actually, i do. It is pretty much happening or beginning to happened within the region in some countries.

Khartoum – Around 100,000 acres in Sudan have been allocated for small-scale farmers Egyptian at the rate of 10 acres each, Minister of Investment, Dr. Mustafa Osman Ismail said yesterday a meeting with delegation from Egypt, headed by Counselor Ahmed Al-Fudali.
"Sudan gives maximum priority to Egyptian investors in the Sudan," Ismail said. He added that currently, the volume of Egyptian investments in the Sudan stands at US$3 billions and is expected to increase to US$11 billion during the forthcoming period.
He hoped that the Nile Valley Parliament between the two countries will be set-up soon, with its first task being to restore integration between the two sisterly countries and remove any obstacles hampering their progress.
Meanwhile, Al-Fudali underlined the importance of giving the opportunity to Egyptian youth to invest in Sudan.
He affirmed Egypt's full solidarity with Sudan to lift the unjust embargo imposed on its people, indicating Sudan's capability to challenge embargo by proceeding on the path of development.
He hoped that relations between the two countries witness tangible development given the will and desire of the leaders in the two countries to strengthen and promote relations between the two nations
GALLERIES »

http://news.sudanvisiondaily.com/details.html?rsnpid=243584

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/12/13/10000-sudanese-acres-ready-egyptian-farmers-sudanese-investment-minister/

Sudan is ranked as the second biggest investor in Ethiopia after China with an estimated 2.4 billion in investments, the Sudanese Investors Society in Addis Ababa announced.

According to the Society's president, Awad al-Kareem Sa'eed there are 800 Sudanese businesspeople registered in Ethiopia. Despite some difficulties, he said obtaining investment permits and licenses in Ethiopia is a very smooth procedure, contrary to Sudan

http://allafrica.com/stories/201407150354.html


So, i know what it is. Thank You.

TerryCarr:
the mixed Arab north is probably laughing at SS now

True, some people did, but not everyone. At the same time some SS came back, and guest what some got their civil service jobs and homes.

barwaaqo:


Why do you say it will never happen again? In the business of creating realities we never say what can not be possible. It takes trial and error to achieve the results we would like to see.

What I see is a united Sudan that is conscious of its african roots setting examples for the rest to follow.



I'm not in that business just so happen things have shifted to extremities to the point of where some justifications warrant a laugh.

The thing is Sudan has many different realities, it is more or less a cross road country. Before the country became what is now Sudan, it was something else entirely. For example the Northern or the Nile Valley north has more in common with Egypt, and its goes beyond the culture it is the people to, to a certain degree. North Eastern Sudan is very connected to the horn of Africa, whereas Western Sudan is very much connected ethnically, cultural to the people of Chad and to some degree West Africa. Whereas the "south Kordofan, and the south west is very much similar cultural to South Sudan and other south nilotic peoples. So it is pretty much a mixed of everything. Whereas South Sudan, they have voted for independence, and we should all respect that regardless how one may view it especially since you are a outsider basically looking in.


question why are you concern about the unity of the regions, since historically that was never the case?\

It is like saying Sudan and Egypt should unite, since it was one country back in the 1950's? Also what makes the unity of SS different from Egypt?

From my perspective i am not advocating neither.

KidStranglehold:


Glad you enjoyed it.


If you want to see more I suggest you link on the link. A lot of good stuff posted.

? Why do some people in the Americas claim the "Nile Valley civilization" since their ancestors don't come from here? Mind you,this is not a personal interaction situation, but more or less the internet phenomena i have noticed.

Interesting read, i did not really know to much about you guys other than pop culture. However your people like all people are ignorant about many things.

Ajuran:



What kind of question is this? Are you male or female?

Female. Now can you answer the question?

barwaaqo:
Yes well we have to develop some cure to see if that will help them. We don't want to give up on them as we believe some things can be cured with the correct antidote.

This is the most silliest statement on here. You need to be a comedian.

barwaaqo:
Love Letters are a sorry waste of paper we need to unite Sudan like John Garang visualize. Don't we all love Sudan?

Then we all have to choose a dish then.

Reality, that is never going to happen again. It is like saying that North Sudan and Egypt will be united again(1950's) since the countries has more ties than South Sudan historically and ethnically speaking. South Sudan will set it own course of history, and destiny. What i see is a possible nile valley union, Egypt, North Sudan, Eritrea, and possibly South Sudan which would be similar to ecowas, or east African Union.

KidStranglehold:


I'm pretty sure you do, but that was directed at you but him.

Based on geographic he is Sub Saharan.

Let me be more specific. Racially, he does not see himself "Sub Saharan", and folks utilize the term as a racial thing, and on occasion culture.

KidStranglehold:


Better question is why is he on a site dedicated to people he hates!

PS: Somalia is IN Sub Sahara Africa whether he or any other people likes it or not.

Don't need the geography lesson i already know. I have a feeling he does not consider himself or his people sub saharan, i know plenty of people especially in northern parts who feel that way. I think his behavior is more of a joking matter than anything else. He is just provoking you guys, we had seen this behavior in our forums, and we learned to ignore it or don't further comment.

Ajuran:


I am not banned under this account, as you can see my simple somali nomadic brother.

I have a love/hate relationship with Mr. Fulaman. He is not Bantu, he is Fulani. So I treat him as if he was half Somali, his more Somali than E-soul better known as the disparaging name of E-wh0re.

Question, Why do you hate the sub Saharan so much? I personally know some of them have their faults, but many i found are good people.

muafrika:
I am beginning to see that. We need serious re-education in Africa, for the sake of decolonization of our minds.

Are you talking about the entire continent or some regions in Africa? Let look at the reality, it is a big gulf btw many countries in the continent. We have to understand it other cultures, before any progress of a pan African dream is possible. How the way i see it, it will be more of a regional blocks, than anything totally continent wide. For example South Sudan will probably belong in two union, one with the eastern African countries, and the other a possible "Nile Valley Union" btw North Sudan and Egypt, and possibly Eritrea in the mix, but we will see the outcome, when the dust of conflict is settled in South Sudan.

BTW, nice pictures.

TerryCarr:
i think ababda is saying Kenyans don't like Arabs.

No, i am not saying that. We would not waste our time going to Kenya, which is the reality. Besides Kenya does have a arab community, who lives among the Swahilis.

muafrika:
Is there a point somewhere in there...? I missed it...

Just correcting you. South Sudan is its own separate country now, when they separated from "Sudan" their Sudanese citizenship had been revoke, now they are required to have passports, and they are now viewed as foreigners. Lastly most "junubis" prefer to be call "South Sudanese" however i wish they change the country names it would had been better, so lets respect their wishes, since is a separate country now. Even within instragram we are indeed separate, so the process pretty much began.



Within 5 years it will be complete when the majority of the citizens from both country will not be able to communicate with each other.

muafrika:
We are not xenophobic Supper, we house about one million Somali refugees, hundreds of thousands of South Sudanese, and tens of thousands of Ethiopian, Congo, Rwandan and other refugees.

Have you heard others complaign? This is just how these people are,

Now your sentence is correct, that is what you meant. Kenya would be the last place anyone from the north would go for obvious reasons.