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davidylan: Derailing how? Project much? Or are you finding it difficult to reconcile your own hypocrisy? You told us that men sleep with women on the street like dogs... you also told us that in saudi arabia, women are treated like queens... why on earth are you still in the US then? Why are majority of muslims rushing to western nations and completely ignoring the utopia that is saudi arabia?

The claim that only countries operating full sharia are islamist countries is a pathetic excuse. So by your standard, not even saudi arabia qualifies as a muslim country? There is no point debating that.

tunshe: Telling me to keep quiet is rude!

Is there gender equality in Nigeria where you live?

When we have a female governor or President in Nigeria, then your point will be considered for discussion.

tunshe: That's your definition of freedom.

In Saudi Arabia, male too have their restrictions.

It's not about feminism or gender, it's about the kind of society they cherish as a people.

Don't try to gain sentiments from ladies here.

tunshe: Now I know you lack comprehension skill.

I just read the link and it shows the beauty of transparency and beauty of the law. You can't lie or claim someone raped you without evidence.

Something happened to a player here in the US. A lady claimed he raped her and the guy was sentenced loosing his career and life goals. After several years, the lady boasted about how he sent the to jail and someone had it recorded. This was how the guy gained his freedom.

This can NEVER happen in Saudi Arabia with this law.

Show me where it's written in the link that Saudi Arabia under reports ra'pe cases?

Absence of evidence
It has been pointed that the loose trial rules, as well as the physical evidences, are not presented or declined due to the 4 witnesses rule of Sharia Law.
Lawyer Abdul-Aziz al-Gassem told that Sharia law allows the defendants to deny any signed confession, he further adds that "The lack of transparency in the investigation, the trial and the sentencing, plus the difficulties that journalists have to get access lead to deep a darkness where everything is possible."[8]

tunshe: What's your definition of freedom? Do whatever you like?

Every society have their norms and it has to be respected as long as it provides benefit and doesn't cause harm.

striktlymi: 'Life' and energy are not different.

@Bold: That too creates a logical conflict. It is in God's nature to live. You can't ask him to die and live at the same time. Your question is not valid.

By the way, who did you offend this time to merit a ban? I presume your other moniker was banned.

tunshe: What does militancy have to do with this?

Saudi under reported ra'pe? Your source please!

tunshe: My dear, freedom was not mentioned in the OP.

Can you please read again?

tunshe: Go and sleep!

If I hate the US, I won't be here making ends meet.

The point is that Saudi Arabia upholds morality and US allows free mixing and it encourages immorality.

That's obvious to everyone! Ra'pe is still a serious problem here, compare the rates between Saudi Arabia and USA.

I didn't mention religion here just an obvious fact to only the sensible.

About women not driving in Saudi Arabia, make a research and find out why.

striktlymi: You can't kill yourself even if your life depended on it.

True death is the destruction of energy.

tunshe: A list from biased minds!

Placing Saudi Arabia on that list a very wrong submission.

Because Saudi Arabia refuses to allow women mix freely with men? They would have been delisted if they allowed men Bleep women like dogs on streets like here in the US?

A society that caters for women needs, why must a woman drive when male drivers, husband or relatives can take them out when they wish? Is driving a car the priority or getting to your destination?

I see this as a respect to women rather than marginalisation.

Thumbs up to Saudi Arabia for treating women as the most valuable being.

TrollMan: I'm Only saying the truth Sweetpie.



TMan.

Lailerh: Don't bring religion into this buddy

striktlymi: What you have up there creates a logical conflict and as such your qyestion is not valid. It is impractical to want someone to exist and not exist at the same time.

Alfa Seltzer: No. I'm only but a humble servant. All power belongs to Satan.

Avicenna: I'm VERY busy. I stopped posting for a while now.
So, I may never reply.

Take care.

Avicenna: @Abdulsleek

I'm an atheist. Ex-muslim.
I left Islam because I do not agree with it. Some morals, some punishments.......

I have no belief in God because we have no evidence for him. Its that simple.

You said somewhere that Allah is wrong.

I agree with you. COMPLETELY WRONG. I was told to never put my morals or principles before Allah's own. I'm not sorry, my reason says different. I have no interest in worshipping an ignorant God( no offence).

This your questions will finally lead you 'astray'. Not necessarily into atheism but you will definitely leave the religion. Maybe become a deist if you still believe in God.

/My point is, trying to find answers here is futile. You will get rationalizations. And rationalizations. And finally, a GODDAMN take it or leave it.

I left it.

busar: You came out real from the beginning but when you now got to a stage you started contradicting yourself with your questions and asumptions.You believed that alcohol and interest are unlawful for you but still asked a question an average muslim shouldn't be asking.Save yourself from all dis stress and become a muslim though it's not obligatory but necessary.

tbaba1234: He is not a muslim. he is logicboy, macdaddy, cheers ... Trying to pull a fast one... He has all the 'logicboy' traits...

AbdulSleek: Seems like most muslims here are the type that repeat whatever the imam or cleric says.


Maclatunji says that a "slave" and not a servant killed Umar. All of you dont ven bother to correct him and I am the non-muslim? I am Logicboy?


Please from the behaviour here, who is acting like a muslim between me and all of you?

busar: A muslim shouldn't be asking those kind of sily questions he asked and d worst part of it is that he said he is a sunni(a sunni indeed).logicboy sleek

tbaba1234: There are quite a number,

i. Logicboy does not discuss Islam without a reference to the fact that Muslim women do not marry non-muslim men... This definitely raised a red flag:



It is like an obsession for him

ii. Logicboy ends his arguments, whenever he feels he has made a point with a smiley... Another red flag, as there was no need for it..



There are a few more, but these are common logic boy signatures...

olawalebabs: OK. May Allah lead you to the right path, not the part of those who went astray.

olawalebabs: Do you pray the 5 daily prayer and do you fast in the holy month of Ramadan

tbaba1234: There are many great muslim kids in the west who grew up in the internet age...

Looking back at your posts, i noticed some'logicboy' signatures... Anyone can be anyone online.... Hopefully, that is not the case...

The general princely class of that time could not digest these policies of justice, simplicity and equality. A slave of the caliph was bribed to administer the deadly poison to him. The caliph having felt the effect of the poison sent for the slave and asked him why he had poisoned him. The slave replied that he was given 1,000 dinars for the job. The caliph took the amount from him and deposited it in Bait Al Maal. Freeing the slave he asked him to leave the place immediately, lest anyone might kill him. This was his last deposit in the Bait Al-Maal for the welfare of Muslims.

maclatunji: Obviously, you have a problem with comprehension- I said there was once an Islamic state where there was virtually nobody to give Zakat to, you said it's a lie. I pointed you to the thread on Umar II where a detailed explanation of economic reforms, growth and general well-being of citizens of the Islamic state is given under him. It is clearly stated that it got to a point that alms giving became difficult because there was hardly anybody that wanted or needed it. All of this was achieved using the Islamic Economic Model without Riba.

So, what on earth are you going-on about? Make we see front ... commot for road jare.

olawalebabs: Abdul, pls answer my questions.