₦airaland Forum

Blue3k:
Lol your argument is more ridiculous than his. Its the government fault polygamy leads to lowet economic outcome compared to their monogamous peers even when adjusting for income. If the monogamous couples are mpre successful under the same conditions you're clearly wrong.

The three questions are you asked are silly when both live in the same country and areas. They aren't segregated from each other. Nobody said polygamy is the sole cause of poverty and social ills BTW.






Lol so you're going to use the life of one man being as refutation to the general trend? Lol the exception doesn't disprove the rule. The study with bigger sample sizes over multiple countries shows monogamy simply leads to better outcomes economicly. Again did you read the part that says polygamy isn't the sole factor in poverty?

It never specified an area most polygamous families live in rural villages and depend on subsitent farming meanwhile most monogamous families tend to live in the city and be middle class so unless the study specifies the wages or the area that each family lives in and the government facilities available to them e.g. Schools, hospitals, good roads, electricity then it isn't an actual based study but rather one clearly made to propagate an agenda

Crystyano:
Stop vomitting like this...


It's not only Nigerians/Africans that are Christians.....



You don't see people of other continents saying stuff like this no matter what



Afterall
It was never everyone in Africa that was a Christian/Muslim and it will never be everyone



I actually don't think it makes any sense to say any form of spirituality is a 'must' whether African or not

You do see people doing this outside of Africa even in India, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, China in all of those countries they complain about Christianity and Islam and their destruction of local religions and culture especially in India so your point was just a load of bullshit try again

Blue3k:
Lol alot of things were useful before the industrial revolution. How would doing it your way get rid of resource delusion issue. The only way to remedy it would be getting very rich like Sanusi II before engaging in alot of wives.

When you're going to quote me later on i'd like to make it clear that Chief Timothy Adeola Odutola already had 2 wives before becoming extremely rich through his businesses this was when he was still trading damasks and fish in Lagos before expanding to Ogun and then manufacturing tyres and retreading tyres then came gold, palm oil, cocoa and the rest of the things but ultimately polygamy doesn't equate poverty

Blue3k:
Typical foolish response from the guy who doesn't read before commenting. Lol I know you're trolling but whatever.

Try and learn about correlation and causation because clearly whoever wrote that article doesn't understand those things

Do they live in a rich area as most monogamous people do?
Is there an abundance of food in the areas where polygamy is practiced?
Are there schools where polygamy is mainly practiced?

The problem isn't polygamy but the government failing to provide fair development for all people

Ofodirinwa:
Polygamy and poverty are Siemens twins

So Chief Timothy Adeola Odutola ( OBE ) was poor due to polygamy?

We should have a system whereby each student learns an indigenous language e.g. Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Efik etc. Along with English and one over foreign language whether it be Mandarin, Japanese, German, French etc. This would work very well for us but for now we should focus on 100% literacy rates across the nation in English and one native language before adding on all the other options like German

rvp2018:
There all sort of mixed people...but majority is what takes precedence. Maasai for example are more Ethiopid than Nilotic. Luo of kenya are half nilotic. Not as pure nilotic as south sudanase.

Anyway talking of colour

West Africa shores - from Senegal is darker - then get less darker - util it gets to East Nigeria - it starts to get lighter all the way to Congo and Angola.Then it starts to darken again in most of East and Southern Africa - apart from South Africa when it lighten dramatically due to Khoisans.The same if you start from south sudan - the darkness start reducing as you move out - further north - east - and west.

Most of this is purely Africa adaption to climate.

Igbos uses their slightly light skin to claim jewish descende - very laughbale. It adaptation to live in humid tropical forest of central africa.

Lighter in Congo? Have you seen Lukaku? Benteke? Infact forget them have you seen TP Mazembe? Have you seen the president of Congo? All very very dark skinned and even a lot of Igbos are dark skinned they're not all light skinned as you've wrongly claimed

rvp2018:
There are admxiture everywhere - but everyone knows yoruba is yoruba - and igbo is igbo - because they are different people. Slightly different from say a Khoisan. You know a zulu - is different from Xhosa. You know Malawian-Zambia-Zimbwabwe are near similar - they have bantu looks - without Khoisan admxiture your find in South Africa. You know Angola-Congole-Camereuon - Igbo - are similar - these are mostly brown bantu/yoruba people that are a little hairy - because they lived in forests.

I am talking typical igbo....is more fairer skin than Yoruba...and more hairy than Yoruba. When you see a dark tall person - you know it a sudanase -or a kenyan even. You know a Tutsi is different from Hutu. You know forest pgymy like Batwa is different from Bantu.

Yoruba to me is closer to Ghanian than to Igbo. Igbo is closer to a congelese or Camerounian.

You cannot tell the difference between a Yoruba and an Igbo unless the Igbo person is lightskin everything you're saying is bullshit even between Zulu and Xhosa you can't tell the difference but for some groups like East Africans you can tell by the forehead but us in West Africa there's no distinct future to differentiate between each group especially between the Yoruba and Igbo who basically share the same DNA, genotypes and even cultures stop trying to make it seem like you can tell where a person is by looks alone and propagating this racial theorem

rvp2018:
http://humanphenotypes.net/map/map.html
Yoruba - all the way to Senegal - phenotypical (by appearance) - Sudanic (not to be confused with nilolitic)
Igbos - all the way to most of central africa - are Congoid.
Bantus - are bantuid - east and south africa.
Northern West Africa - Fulanis/Hausa - are Ethiopid.
Nilotes - like Dinga/Luos - Nilotic

Yoruba - all the way to Ghana - to Senegal - in apperance

Skull long and high, nose very wide and rather low-rooted, lips bulging, chin small, forehead steep, face large, hair kinky, legs long, and body muscular. In contrast to Bantuids of the southern savannahs, features are more pronounced, skulls higher, and legs longer. Represents an adaption to humid savannah climate

Igbo - all the way to Congo

Widespread Central African type, typical for the agricultural forest populations. Compared to savannah types (Sudanids, Bantuids) legs are shorter with big calves, stature lower and more thickset, faces broader, skin fairer, body hair stronger, and nasal root more depressed.
This adaptation for trophica humid climate...has nothing to do with Igbos coming from Jews...it very similar appearance in many cameroun/congolese

Igbo look like a Congolese. Yoruba look like a Ghanian.

Bantus - are different - it like a mixed congoid and sudaind - as it adapted from central africa tropics to savannah.

Widespread type, native to the savannah regions of the southern African hemisphere. Skulls tend to be long and low, noses wide, lips full, chin small, forehead high, facial features robust, and hair kinky. In contrast to the Sudanids of the northern savannahs, the typical Sub-Saharan features are less pronounced, but more bulbous and fleshy, brow ridges stronger, skulls lower, and legs shorter.

This is such cap my dad is Igbo, his grandmother is Igbo, his grandmother is Igbo and they're all as black as Yoruba people often are even Nigerian politicians that are Igbo can still be dark in complexion there's no singular characteristic of an Igbo or even a Yoruba my mom is Yoruba but she's lightskinned naturally like the Igbos are apparently supposed to be according to you, it just varies stop trying to divide these people

Ola17:
That is religious discrimination and I believe it is morally wrong.

Discrimination is a form of nepotism and racism which according to your logic, is the root of all evil. So in essence, you are agreeing that your group is responsible for all the evil in the world?

You got him there

Moghalu is the next president of Nigeria and we don't need Buhari's endorsement for it to happen

ADC Arise and Shine Nigeria

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Your dad is Igbo and you insult me at IPOB when I am not even from the east of Nigeria. Good to know what is snake is always a snake

Does being Igbo make you IPOB? Oloshi

uthlaw:
na u go choose their candidate abi....

It's basic political knowledge, Buhari wouldn't have won if Tinubu didn't support him and Osinbajo was placed there to garner more of the SW votes

uthlaw:
quote me..... Osibanjo is the next president of Nigeria.... nothing you can do about it!

Tinubu will be chosen as the APC candidate and Osinbajo will be left on the sideline

theTranslator:
1. I'll chose the Oyo empire over the present demoncrazy anytime anyday

2. historical books say something else. even Chinua Achebe's book say something else
women were not equal to men in precolonial Igboland and you know that well
and osu and ohu is still functional till now plus why do women have to drink her dead husband's corpse water?
why was there and still is female disinheritance?

3.im talking mostly most were clan level
those aren't even large kingdoms
Oyo alone was bigger than all of them combined

4.for modernisation to occur. an amount of monarchy is a must in those days
no monarchy only brings disunity and chaos

1. Oyo empire where the Oyo Mesi could take control and depose of the Alaafin whenever they wanted? And a great example is near the collapse of the Oyo empire where 9 Alaafins were forced to commit the ritual suicide because the despotic Bashorun Gaa wanted to become the Alaafin that's the system you want?

2.Women may not have been equal but they still had a voice and they still had rights there were even women that could be admitted into the Umunna if they were influential enough in the community, a woman could become a massive land owner and even a chief in the village if she works hard to build her wealth and the same applies to Yoruba society so that point doesn't really matter. The Osu and Ohu system is and was horrible and i'm still trying to learn the rational behind it but it allegedly wasn't practiced in Nri where they accepted all no matter the race, language, or any other sins committed as long as they followed the rules of the kingdom.

3. There's a reason why they were called kingdoms and why Oyo was called an empire and yes it was much larger but what exactly is your point? You said they were at clan level mostly and I just told you that they had kingdoms that spanned the whole of Abia to parts of southern enugu and parts of anambra state ( Aro Kingdom ). Other kingdoms stretched from the Niger River at Aboh all the way down to Brass ( Aboh Kingdom ) and others occupied the whole of central and northern Anambra, and parts of Enugu and Imo ( Nri ) for the most part they were organized into kingdoms it was only in very sparse and small areas where they were actually independent and worked at clan or village level

4. That's false the Igbos were modernized they had houses, canoes, iron working, brass working, clay working, indigenous scripts ( Apart from Nsibidi such as the Aniocha script ) and they even had whole barns made for yams and they were built in a row by row manner to hang each yam in it's own section and in order of freshest to the least fresh so your point of the need for monarchy for there to be modernization at the time was just stupid

uthlaw:
those are your candidate in ur SE....you cannot tell us who to vote for!

I'm not talking to you i'm talking to those with sense

uthlaw:
who are the SE?

The Igbos even a lot of those in the SW will reject him since they've began waking up hopefully we'll see Moghalu as the next president of Nigeria and if not Moghalu then Peter Obi

theTranslator:
you either have a colonized mind or you're just fooling yourself

1. Africa was far better during the times of mornachy
the only person who says democracy is more advanced is the west fools

2. the so called democracy the Igbo practiced wasn't even democracy
or is a society where women were less than male children a democratic society?

3. the Igbo never really had large states. they operated at clan level

4. what you're calling democracy is actually a lack of modernisation.

1. It was better undoubtedly but the system was exploited e.g. Oyo empire

2. Your point is false the women were equally represented in the democracy you had the:
Umunna ( Male )
Umuada ( Female )
And another one for the children and youths that i've forgotten the name of but essentially everybody was represented and voted democratically by the village people and don't even bring that Eze nonsense because Eze isn't a kingship title or monarchial but a priesthood system rather

3. The Igbos did have large states e.g. Nri Kingdom, Aboh, Kingdom and Aro Kingdom were all large polities and not based at clan level as you wrongly claimed

4. I'll just ignore that one doesn't even begin to make sense how is it a lack of modernization please elaborate

mtisTheQubit:
The Igbos have met look alittle bit different from Yorubas..

There's a reason

For one there where older hominid groups in those areas before the homo sapiens arrived in Yoruba land they haven't identified this group yet but in Igbo land they've identified it as the pygmies so both the Yorubas and Igbos have 20% DNA difference due to the dufferent hominid groups but the rest of the 80% DNA that is homo sapien based the divergence is very minor they still look very similar I know this cause my dad is Igbo and My Mom is Yoruba but you actually can't tell the difference between either side of the family

mtisTheQubit:
Ok guys now i give you another history stuff to debate on...

The Nigerians who want Israel to accept them as Jews

Many Igbos believe they have Jewish heritage as one of the so-called 10 lost tribes of Israel, though most are not practising Jews . They comprise less than 0.1% of the estimated 35 million Igbos.

These tribes were said to have disappeared after being taken into captivity when the northern Israelite kingdom was conquered in the 8th Century BC - and the Ethiopian Jewish community, for example, is recognised as one of them.

Igbo customs such as male circumcision, mourning the dead for seven days, celebrating the new moon and conducting wedding ceremonies under a canopy have reinforced this belief about their Jewish heritage.

But for real someone just tell me the origine of Igbo...

They have the same origin as the Yoruba and all the other Niger Congo groups where that is? We don't know but we do know is they share a common ancestry although Igbo society is a lot more advanced then others with their democratic system of leadership for example

MaxInDHouse:
You don't get it, do you?
You're talking about an ethnic group where the people are speaking the same language and culture so how do you expect them to raise weapons against themselves?
I said there can never be peace if they engage in politics, as in where they decide to have a say in the political affairs of the country where they live. As long as they remain within their clan surely their elders will settle whatever differences that comes up. But they shouldn't leave their community and think they want to participate in the political affairs affecting other tribes!

It's a whole kingdom with different people of different dialects, the Aro Igbo stil thought against other Igbos like those in Umuleri even though they spoke the same langauge so your point was wrong, language doesn;t equate peace and they had a political structure through the Umunna

There is no singular evidence you can provide that proves that only Christianity or Jesus as you say can provide oeace when the Crusades so called Christians were violent or even the English in their colonial rule, yet no singular person in the Nri Kingdom ever initiated an act of violence or killing that should tell you which religion really ensures peace in the land

MaxInDHouse:
It's impossible because they will practice politics which will open the way for nepotism and racism, which in turn will result into KILLING of the opposition!
So learn how to dig matters to the root cause not just looking at things from the surface!

What? I gave you an example of the Nri who never once started a war there was literally no violence allowed, they never traded slaves or what not no singular person of their religion killed another and they practiced Odinani, had Dibias, did divinations and had masquerades there was no concept of Jesus and yet there was peace in the land without racism

uthlaw:
Osibanjo/Zulum are the next president and vice of Nigeria!

Zulum is still a governor and will run for second term so no and the SE won't accept Osinbajo

MaxInDHouse:
You have morals, shey?
Nobody denies that!
But you will never ever find a peaceloving people apart from those who accepted Jesus' teachings.
For your information, Satan is intensifying his effort in infusing hatred in the minds of people around you, so people everywhere are becoming weird by the second. Only Jehovah's Witnesses are keeping the calmness that befit sane people. Science can never do that, in fact scientists are inventing more destructive devices while Jehovah's Witnesses are erasing hatred and wars in the minds of people! Isaiah 2:2-4

I pity your condition, don't worry they are coming for your head with destructive devices invented by SCIENTISTS. Sebi we are preaching peace you are arguing blindly!

There are peaceful people who didn't accept Jesus look at the Nri kingdom their religion preached peace and they had no concept of Jesus

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So present a group of scientists who are living peacefully with their neighbours!

Oh so you're one of those who believes without religion people won't have morals. This conversation is other then I can't concern myself with idiots

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly do you know about Ìṣẹ̀ṣe?
Do you know anything about ifá at all?
Well i'm from the clan where ifá is our ancestral worship and my own parents are Muslims but i studied all before i converted to JW.
So don't just tell me what you don't know about Ìṣẹ̀ṣe because i know much about it even more than i know Islam!

Science is a subject on it's own that doesn't contradicts God's word. Science is for finding out more about our environment and how we can live healthy but God's word is about how we cohabit peacefully so science can never help us to cohabit peacefully on this planet because the knowledge to cohabit is in the Bible!

I clearly know more about Isese then you do when you claim the Orisha are fallen angels and added to that everybody in Africa has a traditional religion as their ancestral worship so your point doesn't matter

Science isn't solely for health, science is also to find out where we came from, how we evolved and what we can do to improve our lives and create new technology and yes science does contradict God's word many many times

MaxInDHouse:
I think intelligent people wants to expand their knowledge!
I never knew it's a crime to share what you have on social media!
Just say you're scared of God's word because i never forced it down your throat, i only presented what i know about the topic of discussion!

The world needs scientific knowledge not knowledge on the so called word of God i've grown up in a christian household and I still live in one but I certainly don't accept the religion. The topic was that Isese isn't idol worshipping as people of your religion claim you didn't make any constructive claim as to why people of your religion do that rather you tried to force a link or a narrative between the two religions that don't exist with your fallen angels bs then you moved on to start talking about God choosing a singular race like that even begins to make sense

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for the compliment!
If you're truly intelligent you should know that a barber differs from a butcher, both of them deal with skin but one takes care while the other kills.
I know most atheists are liars because if truly you people want to debunk Christianity you will find out what Jesus taught and look for those practicing it then you can now debunk it as nonsense. But blindly referring to political religionists as Christians when the book says Jesus never participated in politics shows the level of insincerity in you people!

Nobody even confuses barbers and butchers so what are you talking about? The rest of what you said is stupid the literal base of Christianity comes from Roman catholicism

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know the meaning of "FORCE"

I didn't ask for you to talk about Christianity yet you've come and pushed your scripture and opinion on us

jesusjnr2020:
You're obviously a new comer here still trying such an outdated lie on someone who's neither blind or gullible.

Keep trying, maybe someone gullible would fall for it, but not here where it's failed woefully.

The story of Noah literally comes from the epic of gilgamesh

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
What type of history did you do I thought life started in Africa and expanded. So how did Life start in North Africa and Europe and then come down to West Africa your history is completely upside down

Nile Valley was the pinnacle of African Society and when it collapsed many groups left there and went into Internal Africa and from there they met those who already inhabited those lands and influenced their culture