Just30:
Timbuktu and Gao were huge trading centers with record and radiocarbon dating as far back as 31100BP who is around 1050BC.... And the existence of the two towns were written about even around 1500BC ..

https://journals.openedition.org/etudesafricaines/17167

Written by who? No script existed in those areas until the Arabs came and that was in 700AD so what writing was there that you're claiming

MaxInDHouse:


If Jesus never forced his teaching on anyone, never participated in politics, never took up weapons against anyone, never supported the use of weapons then those people weren't Christians! Matthew 7:21-23

As a say Jesus didn't force his teachings on anyone BUT you do and so do most christians

Just30:
Stupid why are you repeating the same thing I told you about how Timbuktu has been way more studied than Nok ?.

Are you on some high grade wee ?


You can try researching Timbuktu clay works and you will see what I saw.

There's nothing there when I search it so bring your own pictures I can bet that it is either clay works of the Sao or the Nok and if they are from Timbuktu they were made post 100AD and not in the BCEs as you claimed

MaxInDHouse:

And i am telling you that the Romans who went round the world killing people in the name of crusades weren't Christians, Jesus never forced his teaching on anyone!

They were Christians and they spread Christianity you don't get to choose who's Christian and who isn't Christian the ultimate point is that without them Christianity wouldn't even exist today it would have died out very quickly.

And I never said Jesus forced his teaching on anyone but the missionaries of Jesus and the Christians such as you do force your teachings on everybody for no reason

MaxInDHouse:

Oh you hate the truth, shey?
Well it's not by force, you learn everyday!

It's not the truth though

Christianity would have never reached Africa without the Roman empire and without the European empires who colonized other people it's as easy as that

athaboi:
Oga the election is for apga simple

APGA has split into 4 factions and the people are tired of their misrule ADC has a chance now

Just30:
I'm actually speaking to an illiterate who knows nothing....

It is foolish to even think that Nok clay works came from them ....
Unfortunately it hasnt been as studied as Timbuktu has been studied

Bring these so called Timbuktu clay works then and we can compare them to the Nok to see if they're even related as you claim


Timbuktu has been studied ten times more then the Nok culture has what are you on? Weed? Crack? Coke? I need to know what you take for you to be this stupid

Just30:
Timbuktu dates as far back as 1500 BC

Their Nok clay works are products from places like Timbuktu and other small towns which were trading centers.

Oh my God i'm speaking to a fool

athaboi:
my pooling unit is at umobi awkuzu just close to holiday inn, in oyi local government area! Your candidate is not known anywhere...is he not the guy from okija?? He won't even win okija bcoz guys like obijackson are for PDP!

PDP has already lost this election they're actively trying to support the ZLP candidate

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/302753/anambra-guber-talks-with-okonkwo-zlp-stall-pdp-campaign.html

ADC candidate Nwankpo has been getting increased attention due to ADC grassroot campaign as well as his idea for Umunna governance in Anambra

And even on top of that ADC might get factions of APGA to merge into their party structure giving them a larger base in Anambra

The most likely case is that it will be APGA vs PDP vs APC but i;m hopeful that this election things can change and it will be APGA vs ZLP vs ADC

Just30:
Hausa, Toubou, Kanuri people in Nigeria come from those empires

Also, Timbuktu existed far before Nok and it manuscripts are the oldest you will find...

No it didn't

Timbuktu isn't more then 100BC meanwhile Nok is over 1000BC and manuscripts don't matter

Nok didn't have a writing system as far as archaelogists know but they iron working and their clay figurines are way older then Timbuktu and the Ghana empire there's nothing to argue about stop showing your foolishness

garfield1:


Which web?

web of lies

MaxInDHouse:

Those people weren't "Christians" but "misinformed churchgoers" and the true God used them to transport His word throughout the earth but the message wasn't known until Jehovah's Witnesses started preaching and teaching what Jesus taught in the first century.

There is a difference between having the book and knowing what the book teaches!

idiot

athaboi:
Noise maker

Either prove it's wrong or be quiet most of you people making noise about this election aren't even from the SE talk less of Anambra

Just30:
go and tell a Viking that his group is extinct and see the slap you will receive...

All their languages still exist and is well studied

Dumb kid

How are those the same thing? Do the descendants not still speak the same language?

Just30:
According to those manuscripts Nok was just a small village of few people..

We are talking about empires that held people in the thousands with it boundaries...
Timbuktu is even more older than Nok and it was a far bigger community than it..

All ethnic groups from Mauritania Togo, majority of BENIN and Nigeria trace their route to the Ghana Mali Songhai empires ...
Base on the migration routes.

Nok wasn't a small village wtf are you talking about? There's a small village named Nok but Nok was an empire that spanned Northern Nigeria past the confluence and into Southern Nigeria.

There's no evidence that any group in Nigeria or Benin got its origin from Ancient Ghana at all, you're just spewing nonsense it's either a few refugees from Ancient Ghana in the hundreds came and met the Aboriginals or it's that refugees from the Nile valley came and met with the Aboriginals and their culture developed from there, there's literally no other way to describe it anything else you say is null and void

Just30:

Let me help you here

The vast majority of ethnic groups in today west Africa were in the Ancient Ghana empire area..
Saying this does not mean that Small villages like Timbuktu Gao and Nok did not exist.
That Ghana empire later became the Songhai Mali empire which established Timbuktu, Gao and Nok under it leadership.

And all those happened before the great exedos South wards

You clearly don't know anything about history

Ancient Ghana empire was founded or at least as far as we know actually became large around 300AD

Meanwhile Nok had already covered land the northern extremities of Nigeria past the confluence and had been working Iron and clay since about 1000BC

Nsibidi script has been found on over a thousand monoliths spread out in an area that covers Cameroon, Cross River State and Abia State in Nigeria and they date to about 2000BC

Both are way way older then the Ancient Ghana empire the most likely case is that these people already lived there and already had established nations and languages then those from Ancient Ghana came as refugees and brought aspects of their culture into other parts of Africa

The Ancient Ghana empire is too young for you to be claiming that it is the origin of All West African groups maybe it's the origin of the Asante but it isn't the origin of any ethnic group in Nigeria or Benin and that includes the Fon and the Ga.

A non-partisan political pressure group, the Third Force Movement, has adopted the African Democratic Party (ADC) on the basis that its governorship candidate, Sullivan Akachukwu Nwankpo, has no baggage.

Besides, the group has endorsed the former Women’s Wing Director of Senator Uche Ekwunife Governorship Campaign in the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) primary, Mrs. Ego Florence Atuigwe, to serve as the Director-General of Akachukwu Nwankpo Campaign Organisation.

Chairman of the Movement, Pastor Okey Ojibe and co-Chairman, Prof. Aghadiuno, who disclosed this to newsmen in Awka, Anambra State, yesterday, contended the adoption of ADC was because the Movement’s mission is in line with the party’s mantra that places premium of the “Anambra families first.”

He said that the Third Force Movement was planning to project Akachukwu’s campaign activities by working to ensure the collapse of different denominations into ADC structure.

According to him, the group adopted Nwankpo after rigorous consideration of his 15 years of transparent and corruption-free public service that spanned from local council, state government and Federal Government of President Goodluck Jonathan as a Special Adviser and Executive Secretary of SURE-P.

Corroborating him, Aghadiuno said that the group would before next month make a formal announcement of its position in keeping with its interest in facilitating provision of quality governance and transparent leadership.

MEANWHILE, the flag-bearer of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in the November 6, 2021 Anambra governorship election, Valentine Ozigbo and a music maestro, Innocent Idibia (a.k.a. 2Baba) have advocated a violence-free electoral process in the forthcoming election.

Ozigbo and 2Baba, otherwise called 2Face, made the declaration in Awka, Anambra State, at the weekend, when the gubernatorial candidate hosted a delegation from the ‘Vote-Not-Fight: Election No Be War’ campaign.

The campaigners consisted of officials from the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), National Democratic Institute (NDI), the 2Baba Foundation and the Catch Them Young Community Initiative (CATYCOI).

The contingent, which was led by ‘2Baba’ Idibia, also included Bem Aga, NDI’s Programmes Manager, Tracy Keshi, NDI’s Programme Officer, Nonso Orakwe, Executive Director of CATYCOI, and Israel Orji, the Programme Manager of CATYCOI.

Both parties signed a peace pledge card to complement their declaration to advocate a peaceful election.

Ozigbo hailed 2Baba and the Vote-Not-Fight campaign for their consistency and the importance of the message of peace and non-violence electioneering; the two crucial issues he believed can change the course of the black race.

https://guardian.ng/news/group-adopts-adc-appoints-atuigwe-as-nwankpo-campaign-dg/

Just30:
How are entire ethnic groups across the entire West Africa just a few refugees?

I'm talking about the people from Ancient Ghana, Or Ancient Nubia, Or Ancient Kemet or which society you want to claim as origin only a few people from there actually left their homeland to other places in Africa the vast majority of these ethnic groups populations were already established before Ancient Ghana was even made

MaxInDHouse:


Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Christianity didn't spread through England and Rome, it's the Bible that the true God allowed those robbers to transport throughout the earth. As for Christianity it came when Jehovah's Witnesses first knock on your door!

Jesus never asked his followers to force the book or it's teaching on anyone, so if what you know today was forced down your throat then know that it has nothing to do with Christianity!

Are you preaching and teaching from house to house?
Do you separate yourselves from worldly politics?
Do you associate with a global family of peace loving worshipers?
Do you know that it's a crime to carry weapons for any reason whatsoever?
Those are the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth so if you're not practicing those things then you were misinformed!

The Bible would have never reached Africa internal if England, Portugal and France never existed or if they never became Christian due to the Roman empire there would only be Islam and traditional religions and that's final

Just30:
Actually they do....

Go and learn, the internet is a free tool for you to use and see all the Romanic conquest which are well documented.

You are really dumb, do you mean that the Celtic and Slavic are extinct ? Or do you mean the Franks and the Saxons are extinct?

You think they study history in their country for nothing ? Even their names have origin to pinpoint a particular tribe..

Don't be dumb, history is how the US has managed to hold Europe with a firm grip by playing on their tribal fears.


The highlighted comment above is super dumb

The Western Sahara civilization and Northern Saharan civilization had very little contact ...

You haven't finish with one dumb argument and you are already making another dumb argument.

Lunacy Is doing you

The problem is you claimed 90% how does that work? Undoubtedly populations from large African civilizations migrated to different areas after the collapse and influenced the cultures of said areas but these places already had people living there so to say 90% can trace their origin to one place is stupid

The Nok were in Nigeria and The Sao in Chad and Niger before the Ancient Ghana empire was even in existence a few refugees from these empires could have assimilated but not 90% as yoou wrongly claimed

globemoney01:

Keep believing fake news. Anambra is APGA. ADC will not win any ward. Mark this

You're probably right but I still hope ADC can at least come in the top 3 with like 10% of the votes

MaxInDHouse:

After the fall of man in the garden of Eden Satan and his demons had the right to mingle with humans, this wouldn't have been so if Adam and Eve never turned against their Creator.
So God allowed for time so that all the demons that joined Satan in the rebellion can station themselves as gods in different locations of the earth. God then looked down and chose a man named Abraham to be the one through whom the saviour of mankind will be born! Genesis 12:1-3

God began trailing the lineage until Jesus was born {Matthew 1:1-16} all the information regarding how mankind could be redeemed from Satan's snare, sin, sickness and death was impacted in that lineage.

That's why Jesus could say:


Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 28:19-20

There is no culture or tradition where anyone or god commanded the worshipers to do the same, that's why the Bible is the most popular and owned book in the world.
Most of our people want to hip the blame of British colonialism on the Bible but all of us know that Israel is different from England, they saw the book and embraced it though they don't have the accurate knowledge of the book!

If England and the Roman empire never existed then the Bible would have never left Israel it was through the Romans that Christianity spread to places like Egypt, Ethiopia and eventually England and it was from there that they forced their religion onto us

jesusjnr2020:
Keep laughing at your foolishness.

Even Jesus talked much about the devil, but He never endorsed Satanic materials and activities. That's what distinguishes those of us who talk about the devil from the likes of you who worship and serve him.

At least, it's now clear who I'm now dealing with. It's certainly not an atheist!

I have told you, what you seek, you would soon find, so be patient.

Jesus never executed any of his miracles and half of the stories in the Bible literally come from other religions like the Babylonian and Egyptian ones

WAKE UP

MaxInDHouse:


Spirits are ever loyal to those who proved loyal to them. There are many of them roaming about the earth but the God of Israel has a purpose why He chose Israel.
Go round the world and see if there is any race or culture where they know about the origin of Gods. Only the Bible provided the info that these gods are fallen angels who left heaven to come and start living amongst humans {Genesis 6:1-4} the Yorùbá race often talk about them through ifá divination but their knowledge is also not complete.
Ọ̀rúnmìlà, Ọ̀sayìn, Ọbàtálá, Ògún and many more were fallen angels who left heaven and came to live on earth. None of them could return to heaven again after that event so they returned to their spirit form only to continue dealing with humans as their gods!

False

Orunmila, Osanyin, Obatala, Ogun are Orisha who were sent down to earth to make humans and make it habitable for them and they don't live on earth the clear difference between Ifa and Christianity is that in Ifa Olodumare doesn't get involved in human matters the Orishas do that and your point of the Israelites are the only ones who understood it clearly is bullshit what you're exposing is one of the largest inferiority complexes i've ever seen

dreu2fine:

Instead of u guys to adopt apc and get structure now
U guy are getting it wrong again

ADC already has a structure so why would we need APC? ADC has members in each and every LGA of Nigeria other then a few in Borno State where there's terrorism but otherwise we have a structure and a candidate in every single election we're quite literally the third largest political party in Nigeria after APC and PDP and were founded about 16 years ago

globemoney01:

Anambra is APGA, APGA will win with a landslide.

APGA has already split into 4 factions so which landslide?

And out of those 4 factions 2 of them are working towards merging into ADC and supporting their candidate Nwankpo infact Obiano might even join in and support him as well

benuejosh:
Fayemi of Ekiti state had a terrible record too but he came back and sonhlfar he has been one of the best Governors Ekiti state has had. Uba is a changed man too.

Nonsense he won't be a good leader

We will get Soludo, Okonkwo or Nwankpo

popesco123:
Dead forum. Always posting old story to favor APC nairaland. APC no get mouth for anambra. Election rigging will fail.

How is this story favouring APC? Can you read?

BluntCrazeMan:
APGA is dead in Anambra..
Gov. Willie Have Killed APGA.
..
Meanwhile, I just dey reason something.
Before Willie won second tenure, he had a personal agreement with Buhari that he would hand over the State to APC.
..
I just dey reason am.
Was it because of the agreement with Buhari that he had decided to scatter APGA to this very extent??
..

The chairman of ADC was actually one of the founders of APGA but got snubbed by Peter Obi and there's rumours that Obiano will support ADC's candidate to pay him back for all the wrongs he's received other the years in Anambra but we'll see

stinechykee:
It is not Andy Uba that has fake result but Ifeanyi Uba

It is Andy Uba

theTranslator:
that is for Igbo and south south

Hausa also has Rafi

Yoruba holy script is for Yoruba,Egun and Yoruboid groups

Nigeria is one country, we either have singular native script or we keep the Latin Script

Nsibidi is ideographic not an alphabet based system each symbol represents an idea or a word and not an individual letter like the system you presented, so it can be translated into any language they just use the term for that word in their own language

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Sowore is 100 times better than President Muhammad buhari. Look at the president buhari is home town and villages have been taken over by boko Haram and Bandit. He is now paying the Bandits and boko Haram to purchase weapons from them. I know your father is working for the Nigerian High Commission in South Africa because of your behaviour

Who mentioned Buhari in this conversation?

Please learn to read

Also he paid them to not shoot at the president and not as you wrongly claimed to purchase weapons