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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 4:57pm
jl115:
Look bro I believe Obama is "Black"!! Im just trying to drive home the point that I was making in my discussion with Abohboy which mtis joined.

Abohboy said Egyptians stopped being black(not sure if he meant by race or complexion) when they mixed with Arab and Europeans......Im just using Obama as an example that if he is considered "Black" then so are Egyptians that Abohboy said are not black!

Okay let me rephrase that the Egyptians were Africans up until they mixed with Arabs and Europeans they they formed a new group of Copts, Arabs and mixed race peoples
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 3:48pm
gallivant:


What about Aboriginal Australians and Papua New Guineans, where do they fit in the "black" equation? Are they Africans just because they have a dark complexion? What is "black"?

They aren’t African but they are black because it’s the colour of the skin although it’s confusing cause of Indians but I’m pretty sure if you leave Africa you’d get what black is ad what black isn’t
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 3:31pm
gallivant:


I can show you "blacks" who aren't African. The term black is very misleading.

Now I’m starting to need what yours and jln115 point is your against the use of black to describe people. But back in the BCs within Africa everyone was “black” other than maybe the khoisan and “indigenous Arabs”
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:26pm
SUFFERinSMILIN you say your helping your nation but you don’t know what others are doing. I’ll be brief about it but essentially we’re building solar powered homes in Nigeria for the homeless and in the next few years we’re building a private lan African university and we’re inviting the foremost professors to work there, the school fees will be very low or simply free.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:03pm
jl115:

Are these people black:

The first two yes and the last one no, the first two are the dravidians of India black people who left Africa thousands of years ago and their skin colour never changed
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:51am
jl115:
That's your opinion.....only difference is Boers have a culture and language unique to SA which is not found anywhere but in SA

No only difference is the boers are just Europeans who settled in Africa making them immigrants and not indigenous or natural Africans, their culture and language is unique because it is foreign.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:50am
jl115:
What if I told you genetically Khoisan are not black?

I’d listen and wait for you to give me evidence

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:41am
jl115:
Probably the most ret@rded thing you've ever said!! grin grin grin having black skin doesn't make you a Black African..........otherwise Indians and even some coloured people in SA would be classified as Black!!!

Hell not even the South African government classifies Khoisan as black.....they are classified as coloured in South Africa!

Also if you look at the definition of indigenous then Boers are certainly indigenous wink

I very clearly said indigenous to Africa, so Indians and other groups can’t be because they’re not within Africa and the ones that are. Are immigrants to Africa.

Nobody outside of South Africa uses the term coloured I learnt that very quickly when I left and I called someone coloured it is a racist term. Elsewhere Khoisan are considered black or light skin ( which is another type of black people )

And you know exactly what I mean by indigenous. When I say indigenous I don’t accept groups who immigrated into Africa a few centuries ago. I’m talking of people who’s ancestors ancestors lived on this continent, the boers are just Dutch people even they’re language shows this.


Don’t use the term coloured just trust me. And there’s a difference between a light skin and an Indian, or Indonesian or someone from Philippines remember that they are considered they’re own ethnic group
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:25am
jl115:
Boer are indigenous to SA hence you don't find them anywhere but in SA and Khoisan are not Black!!

Boers are not indigenous to Africa being indigenous has nothing to do with being found in one country and the khoisan are black that is their skin color that is their race, although their facial structure is different from other Africans they are still black and Africans and only one of those is indigenous and even if they are that just means that the ancient Egyptians were blacks, the boers didn’t exist back then and the Khoisan didn’t even reach that far up north so you’ve simply proved my point
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:07am
This is laughable how tf can the boers claim themselves as an indigenous group of Africans that’s a load of bullshit plain and simple
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:04am
jl115:
Boer and Khoisan

Boer aren’t an indigenous group of Africans don’t make me laugh and the khoi San are blacks.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:01am
jl115:
Colour is not a Race...............Just like Asians that have white skin are not Caucasian

You know exactly what I mean just answer the question I’m not ready for an irrelevant race debate
Find me an indigenous group of Africans who aren’t black excluding the moors or Arab immigrants
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:00am
jl115:
Obviously some did go South!!hence why there are Bantu people in Southern Africa

The Bantu originated from west Africa, they went straight south they didn’t go to west the go south they simply went south from east Africa or both groups that went south from west and east Africa met. It is impossible that no one from east Africa went south.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:56am
jl115:
Geography

So you are looking for somewhere new to live you start in east Africa right. There are different groups your saying quarter chose to stay, a few went north and then the rest just went west. Nobody went south whatsoever that doesn’t make sense. They would have gone south before they went west
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:54am
mtisTheQubit:

if we agree that modern humans originated from east africa then your analysis makes sense..
There is a reason I don't debate on ths stuff..No one documented all ths unline the Persians, Babylonians any other societies..For us there is no piece of evidence to support ths..The only info we got is from white man..we have to stick to his hypothesis..

But if you listen to stories told to children by elders there is not evidence that supports the white man hypothesis..actually the story is so different such that you might be surprised how the Europeans got their info from...




Exactly but yes for now for scientific and historical purposes we have to stick to the European theory
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:53am
jl115:
What do you mean by Black? Black is just a colour not a race

You know exactly what I mean don’t start playing dumb, black is a race you know that I’m a black man that’s the world we live in you’re white and I’m black.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:43am
jl115:
Seconded

Show me an Indigenous group of Africans who aren’t black and aren’t the moors ( Arabs who moved to Africa )
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:34am
We love to see it

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:29am
mtisTheQubit:


We had a hotly contested debate on Bantu migration of ths forum some times back..actually, it was Kenyans vs Kenyans cheesy ..the argument was that the commonly known Bantu migration from the congo area might not hold water..
As Kikuyu1 posted there, Bantus might have originated from the north, not from the west...

Very interesting theory, but it makes more sense to me then the others, they had to have originated from there what’s the use in a group migrating from east Africa to west and then from west to south instead of just straight south. We know modern humans originated in east Africa, so they went north to the fertile valleys of the Nile to set up cities and communities that was the pinnacle of civilization and then from there slowly different groups began to migrate away from the area to southern parts

I suspect they went to east Africa around 100 000 years ago
They met an old group of humans in west Africa aroun 20 000 years ago and mated with them which is why west Africans generally have a different face construct and different languages then the rest of Africa
Then they got south around 80 000 years ago

I’m not completely sure about my estimated in west Africa though but the oldest Homo sapiens found in yoruba land were from 9200BC
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:25am
mtisTheQubit:


cant blame them...If its not the Egyptian everyone wants to be a jew... grin
We don’t want to be them we are proud of our ancestry don’t you remember when we were telling about the great ancient benin city or when we were talking about the great Oyo empire we are proud of what we have but we cannot lose what sparked the rest of them to the whites they steal everything our heritage, our culture and now they’re trying to steal our history and our languages and claim it for themselves we need to be aware of these things before we lose where all the great civilizations of the world started in Africa and where all great African civilization started and that was in kemet I resent anyone who claims to be a Jew from my ethnic group I am a yoruba, an igbo and a deltan full stop
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:59am
mtisTheQubit:

Boss, you gonna piss off so many folks here..insinuating that Bantus ruled em.. grin
Anyway, DNA structure of ancient Egyptians is debatable like almost every society claiming a piece of it even the Somalis ..but what you posted here is undeniable an does explain alot if only people might take time an think about it..
if it's true then the commonly told Bantu migration route might be incorrect..

So are you suggesting the Bantu migration happened before ancient Egypt was built and that instead of simply migrating south they went north as well if that is true then it means that Arabs are part Bantus as well as some of the Romans seeing that they later conquered and breeder with the inhabitants of ancient Egypt
Travel / Re: Private Firm, SecureID To Manage Abuja-Kaduna Rail E-Ticket For 10 Years by Abohboy: 7:28am
ERORR404:
If you check well, you'll find out this "firm" is owned by one of them( you know who).

It’s owned by an African or should I say nigerian woman it isn’t owned by tinubu shut up and go and some research out of jealousy some of you will rubbish the work of many who work very hard go and watch cnn and see how she started her business
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 10:20pm On Jan 21
SUFFERInSMILIIN:


So when did the 800 likes for me come from

Aince when guy your a verified liar. Nobody appreciates you, you haven’t offered any solution to Nigeria and for some reason you believe everyone there is an illiterate even though your using a nigerian website how tf does an illiterate make a website
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:54pm On Jan 21
gallivant:


They were African, not black. smiley


It’s clear you don’t know that back in those days all Africans were black it is the Arabs and Europeans who settled in Africa that created those new racial groups that aren’t black and notice how they’re only found in the north where contact was actually there. Ask herodotus
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 9:33pm On Jan 21
kikuyu1:


Abohboy, for you. You SHOULD ALREADY know this.

I’m confused how is this for me this just backs my point that the ancient Egyptians were black

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 6:17pm On Jan 21
jl115:
the is nothing grammatically wrong with that sentence....But you would understand that now would you?

I think he interpreted the sentence wrong the same way I did.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 5:36pm On Jan 21
SUFFERInSMILIIN:


I agreed with you when you said all states to defend themselves in Nigeria but by attacking people the Kenyans how will you solve Nigeria's problem. That's why when I am here I mostly concentrate on Nigeria and Nigerians problems

You don’t try and solve any problems so stfu

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 5:36pm On Jan 21
SUFFERInSMILIIN:


My people are close-minded don't like to open their mind to the truth

Stop saying my people were not your people were working to fix the nation your working to bring it’s downfall two polar opposites some of us are getting involved in meaningful projects and political parties others like you simply wail without preferring any solutions
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 5:34pm On Jan 21
SUFFERInSMILIIN:


You need to read history a lot more the so-called African champions are the worste . You forgot Idi Amin dada, kabila these people killed tens of thousands of their own people just like Mugabe

Nobody thought Kabila was a hero
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 1:20pm On Jan 21
jl115:
no the ultimate point you were trying to make was that black Egyptians did not trade slaves but Arab ones did

That wasn’t the ultimate point, the original point was that European and Asian civilisations originated from kemet which was a great black civilization it all stems from when you said the Greeks were the first to have street lighting, but in reality it was kemet then it turned into they were Arabs but they were blacks that was the point then you brought in slaves into it because at the start that was the point of the discussion but then it changed to ancient black civilisation and was kemet black and with the input of I, vlain and just30 we have shown that it was a black civilisation period.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 12:44pm On Jan 21
jl115:
Ok then.... according to your own definition of Ancient...... Ancient Egyptians were very involved in slavery wink

Okay maybe I was wrong in that sense but they were still black and that’s the ultimate point.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:13am On Jan 21
jl115:
so what is ancient or not.... That's what I asked

And I gave you the time period 4000BC to roughly 500BC

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