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NIGERIA TARGETED: AMERICAN-ISRAELI INTRICACY
Salimanology's Monthly Intelligent Report, March, 2010

9/3/2010

By

Salim I. Hassan (Salimullah)
salimanology@yahoo.com

Education Department, BUK.

Important note: I have observed that my posts and articles in various online webs are of vital impact in aiding young Muslims and non-muslims alike to reshape their thought and attitude towards Islam and Islamic movement in the world, abd in exposing American-Israeli terrorism and injustice. This is known to me via many email messages I alway get in my box, people expressing thier open subscription. To that end, I decide to take it upon myself as a voluntary task, posting monthly report based on my personal research and observation in the form of "Salimanology's intelligent report" under which different topics shall be treated monthly.

Eventhough, this month is almost I will not hesitate to post the article of the month as expressed in the above headline. Cooperate with my effort against any act of injustice and unjust milllitary aggression. Enjoy this month's article.

American-Israeli super-terrorist governments have escalated an extending war and conflict in the whole globe (in Muslim lands particularly). As usual, having destabilized two-third of the world and caused the genocide of millions of civilian Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, Algeria, Pakistan they now turn to our beloved motherland Nigeria (I’m not too patriotic).This is not the first time lest we forget; Mutallab affair was another attempt to implicate Nigeria. I could remember few months ago Israeli foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, has visited us, albeit in the pretext of business contract. Reliable sources had found that a treacherous scheme was hatched by the Nigerian security operatives at the orders of the American embassy in Abuja and in cooperation with the Israelis. General public did not promptly get convinced by such an allegation. But, no sooner the Israeli Lieberman left for home than the security ‘attacks’ had descended on the Shiite Islamic movement’s leader in his home. Other plots, led by Tambari Yabo of Kaduna were ensued but unsuccessful. It will be clear to us that the hidden agenda has been to make the world so convinced about the terrorism presence in Nigeria that America must have invade it. But God refused and their saga exposed and spoiled. We should expect more and more plots from American-Israeli conspiracy and perhaps Mutallab affair was only subsequent plot to Tambari Yabo’s one. This link must have been unmistakeable if we dare to be intelligent in our faculty of reasoning.

American hoax and conspiracy cannot be unveiled by unintelligent person or by someone with shallow thought. Even though some ‘lop-sided’ writers have tried to distort reality, this will only show the extent of their delusion. I would like to give tribute to Hamisu and Aisha for defeating the spirit of such professional prevaricators. I should not, very soon, believe that Mutallab has attempted to blow up the airliner at his own will, for I know, too well, the possibility of American complicity. How it happen? It has come to pass very dubiously – a less little than that of 9/11 attack. I want emphasize that the security alert disseminated to CIA by Farouq’s father had paved the way for this horrific plan. In the word’s of Hamisu “or was it that the Mutallab family alert was seized upon and used as a leeway to extend the tentacles of the so called “War on Terror” to the northern part of Nigeria ”?. This is exactly what has transpired. If I am permitted to speculate I will dare to say when the security alert had reached them, instead of staging into fair approach to handle the possible threat they converted it into serving their evil interest. When I did read A’isha’s piece I refused to pay her accord until after I traced the original source. Haskell’s first line in his eye witness account reads: “Today is the second worst day of my life after 12-25-09. Today is the day that I realized that my own country is lying to me and all of my fellow Americans”. Oh Haskell! It is only today you know. But we have known it long before now. Today we were informed that Faruq was hallucinated when boarded to the plane; he was escorted by unknown person probably a CIA’s authority, that Haskell called "sharp dressed man". Dutch police have admitted that they have reviewed the video of the "sharp dressed man" but refused to release it to the knowledge of the world. Why? Conspiracy established! Haskell have confidently proclaimed “Dutch authorities, "RELEASE THE VIDEO!" This is the most important video in 8 years and may be all of two minutes long. Show the entire video and "DO NOT EDIT IT"!”. With these evidence I declare, and without any hesitation or casting aspersions on peoples’ mind, that Mutallab affair must have been an American-Israeli official stet up just as 9/11 attack. In your Friday’s issue (DailyTrust, 22 January 2010) I read a piece of whom I may call ‘Lop-sided’ writers. Attempting to refute the A’isha’s powerful proofs he unknowingly trapped himself in further delusion. He expressed the view that if Farouq was alleged to being hallucinated it would be he did it at will (but not being drugged by someone else) since the criminals usually takes alcohol/drug before committing their crime. Illogical! The world has never witnessed a terrorist case in which the perpetrators had drugged themselves; they plan and execute their activities in full of consciousness, with emotional stability and discreetness of mind. Their acts always require intelligence and brilliance. This by extension entails that the so called Muslim terrorists are not criminal. This is because of the imam’s view that criminal must take drug/alcohol before embarking on their crime; and these groups of Muslims never do it.

The truth was that Farouq was drugged to loss his consciousness so that the conspirators would do their evil ‘job’ without difficulty. How can you implicate a person in the crime he have never do it while in his consciousness? You must deprive him of his sense of reasoning and clarity of thought. And this is what America exactly did. We still challenge the West to release the video of the ‘sharp dressed man’ if they dare to show the world that they are sincere and trustworthy. The Haskell’s eye witness account will remain a formidable source of challenge in proving the America ’s foreknowledge of Mutallab’s affair.


Submitted by Salimullah.

MrCrackles:
Alhamdullilahi!

Yes of course, We thank Allah. But those people become psychologically disturbed and dismayed because they are day after day realizing the futility of their baseless allegations against Islam. Even the 9/11 attack which officially set up to rise world's hatred against Islam increase nothing but adoration, love and understanding of Islam by numerous population. Thanks Allah once again.

t.truth:
@Post :

Its all lies and wishful thinking.

Can the word 'truth' be really attached to your name? You can say your baseless claim but you cannot, eve for a moment, change the reality. We are the Winners!!!!

ElRazur:
Who are these others you speak of And what does "right based and evidence informed" means? If I tell you once again that I am struggling to understand your post, you will think I am been deliberate when in actual fact I am trying to understand your point. Never mind as expressing yourself clearly is not your strong point.

Sorry Elrazur for the inconvenience. I now got you right. I thought you are 'playing quits'. But now I really understood your sincerity in your misconception about my post. But please, specify where and where your misunderstandings are from sentences? I will in sha Allah clarify. Thanks for showing curiosity to understand my post well.

MrPrsdent:
i love mossad

Really you? If really: why?

I have no doubt about the Israeli complicity in this saga - they can do more than that. My belief is that whatever the Israel does against the Hamas is a typically an aggressive terrorism; and whatever Hamas does against Israel is a kind of fairly resistant terrorism. So always Israel must be considered as a 'giant guilty. The most surprising thing is the deliberate ignorance of America about the Israeli terrorism in the world. They attacked American USS liberty; they attacked American military installation in Egpyt. in 1954. (http://www.davidduke.com/general/israeli-terrorism-and-sept-11_13.html) JDL had even once arrested preparing another terrorist attack on American Muslim and some organizations; (http://www.mailarchive.com/antinato@topica.com/msg02464.html).

With all these Jewish terrorism Israel is still a freedom fighter in the eyes of American leaders; but terrorist in the eyes of American people and the rest of the world. Israel will continue perpetrating its act of political assassination and terrorism all over the world until we raise up against American injustice.

David Duke posted in his website that: "One news article reports “A special Knesset committee finds that “3,000 women are sold each year in Israel’s sex industry, in transactions with an annual volume of $1 billion.” Exploitation of sex workers includes imprisonment, and other forms of rank coercion.” (There has been recent speculation that Natalee Holloway may have been abducted and sold into sex slavery. If this did happen, Israel is a likely destination.)
The Israelis have no real friends. They coerce our politicians through their powerful AIPAC lobby and the threat of bad press from the Jewish-controlled media. All our problems in the Middle East can be traced back to Israel and their treatment of Palestinian natives. The Israelis have killed Americans. They have tricked the US into attacking Muslim nations based on false information. They have one of the biggest sex slavery rings in the world. They horribly abuse the natives of Palestine. Israel deserves no allies, least of all the United States" (http://www.davidduke.com/general/our-%e2%80%9cgreat-ally%e2%80%9d-israel_16530.html#more-16530)

If there exist any terrorism in the world American and Israel alone would have constituted 90% of the world terrorism. what America is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? I think mazaje is not worthy to still be part of this forum for his uncivilized, uncultured and unintelligent post which is unforgivable. This is an academic forum; we write with logic, speak with reason and pose challenge intelligently.

Even today America killed innocent civilian.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=118715&sectionid=351020403

Others know well what I wrote for it is right-based and evidence-informed. I don't mind. You can re-read your post and mine again perhaps you can apprehend.

hopelessly defeated!!!

ElRazur:
Oh for crying out loud. This have nothing to do with allah. It is well known that those who memorise stuff alot have a bigger "hippocampus" in their brain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/677048.stm


Nothing spectacular about it. Kids in china are trained using Abascus from a young age to do complex maths that are usually done on calculators.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T0G-4JXY3YJ-3&_user=10&_coverDate=07%2F31%2F2006&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1193828617&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=74cd74185e6830f05d5d6f9d57453420

The bottom line? Nothing big deal about it. Nothing to do with Allah but it goes to show the dynamics ability a human brain have period.

This man want to deviate my point to religious discourse. Though MUhsin had clarified it he could not comprehend. BUt let me ask you a question who create the "hippocampus" in the brain of such unique people? speak with logic my friend! If it is not the 'do' of God then every body can do it but how many are they in the world. Or can you do it? Really you can't unless God wills you to do. It is such selection that makes it the 'do' of God. If you think it is solely based on someones struggle go and do it my friend. 1, 000, 000, 000, as gift for you once you memorize it even in the next 10yrs. And also as you write "Nothing spectacular about it. Kids in china are trained using Abascus from a young age to do complex maths that are usually done on calculators", and I say you should know there is difference between memorization and 'know-how-to-do'. Thinks again.

THE FIRST MAN TO HAVE MEMORIZED THE DICTIONARY
Shafi'u Adamu (27 years old), a level 3 student of Law department, Bayero University Kano, has appeared to be the first man to have memorized the entire dictionary (6th Edition). He has already memorized the complete Qur'an in a unique and remarkable manner. He is now able to defeat any challenge from the questioners as far as the dictionary words are concerned. Many lecturers and students in the university, and many journalists as well have all failed to defeat his ability of defining each and every word asked in the dictionary. This is only one of the blessing of Allah given to whomever he so wish, but you cannot attain it unless with practical struggle and commitment.

There is no any moral reason (or any other reason) to justify Muslim genocide in Plateau even though the Christian perpetrators of the genocide are trying to justify their act. But all their reasons have been ‘heap of ashes’. I have tried, albeit a little bit, to know why they are so aggressive to us when I have found no any justifiable reason for doing their terrorist act against us, knowing too well of the fact that we had never initiated commission of any aggression on them historically speaking. However, one of my discussant friends at home had informed me that Muslims in Plateau are paying the price for what their ancestral traditional rulers done from injustice, torture and slavery against the early non-muslims in the region. I told him that this was baseless claim and unfound fact. Where did he get this fake information I don’t know. From what our different peace and conflict researchers and scholars have documented I have found and reached a startling conclusion on the essence of Plateau crisis and conflict in the following lines: “At the bottom of the Jos conflict is the competition for political control as well as the issue of indigeneship. The competition and conflict springs from who is an indigene and who is not, and the rights and privileges derivable from being an indigene. Thus, indigeneship is not a mere status but a status that begets specific political, economic and psychological benefits. Non-indigenes, as defined and understood locally, are not entitled to certain political rights and privileges, while indigenes are assured to be (Best, 2007: 7 – 8; Human Rights Watch, 2001, 2004). The most aggressive ethnic group in Plateau are Berom, Anaguta and Afizere. They claimed that they are aiming at eliminating and dismissing the Hausa/Fulani who come for long time and dominate their social and economic affairs of Plateau. And they fear that in near future they will also dominate their political power as such they wanted to prevent it. They even vehemently uttered if these Hausa/Fulani will accept their polytheistic culture and convert to their religion that will end the conflict. Stupid Nonsense! From all political, moral and religious background these are all baseless reason to justify one’s genocide on particular community.
If so is the case, and if presumably is justified, then Muslims may have every right to attack and kill the Christians in Kano, sokkoto and so on where they (Christians) are provided with every right to partake in economic and social affairs and above all to practice freely their religion. But we shall not do it because our noble religion has obliged us to must grant all such right to non-Muslims even if they are residing in Islamic state. Alas, government must be blamed for all these sad happenings! Every man is born noble and free, with right to live and acquire wealth and power via fair means; the most determined and hardworking among them is bound to prosper more, and the most weak, lazy and redundant will be lagged behind. This is the parable of struggle between Berom/Anaguta/Afizere and Hausa/Fulani in Plateau. While the former that claim indigeneship of Plateau were redundant and less hardworking the latter were active and hardworking in pursuing social, political and economic prosperity as far as their living in Plateau is concerned. I have also heard that (but unconfirmed) that the CAN wanted to turn Plateau to become their northern Capital state.

JOS CRISIS: ANY JUSTICE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?
By
Salim I. Hassan (Salimullah)
Education Department,
Bayero University, Kano.
salimanology@yahoo.com

For how long we are waiting for our lives and properties to be protected by the government? For how long we may come to know that the government really cares for different Nigerian religious groups with fairness, justice and impartiality? Are our reps/senators obviously working for our rights in their ‘spider’ (for its gross uselessness) assembly house? I can now evidently see it that the government always seeks to protect and defend only its political power and authority; that any threat against the masses is hardly admitted to government’s official consideration. When and wherever the threat is posed on the masses (especially when it is against the majority Muslims) you just see the government turning its pretentious head from the ‘orgiastic scene’ of the matter, and surprisingly it does not make a significant disparity when the head of government is Muslim or non-muslim. But if the threat is overtly and directly posed against the government’s central power it (the government) will quickly turn on its sanctimonious head with its ‘military might’ to crush the ‘threat poser’. With such a paralyzed or rather one-sided government policy that Nigerman with conspicuous anti-Islam tendency was gone unscathed while Muhammad Yusuf was soon summarily killed. This is probably because the former was believed to had been a threat to Islam and bringing chaos and barbarism into it – and Islam is not the government’s concern – while the later was believed to had constituted threat to the corrupt government itself being it (and its drivers as well) the typical product of Boko. It is also this one-eyed government policy that allows the Christian terrorism of orgiastic murder to continue in Plateau-Jos. If Yusuf was really attacked and killed for causing the death of innocent people why not the same measure apply to perpetrators of Plateau-Jos terrorism for causing mass murder of Muslim brothers in 1991, 1994, 2001, 2004 and yet the recent one. Or are these terrorists just killing animals? Even the ‘crazy’ bullying powers headed by the US never dare to describe the act as a terroristic one probably because it is the Christian one and is against the Muslims. But as the Boko Haram crisis began they instantly made their ‘Washington’ official referendum describing it as the terrorist act probably because it was dubiously carried out by the Muslims; and it is the West’s ultimate goal to use all the available media propaganda to cause the world scare away from Islam. In all practical experience, both at national and international level, there have been every evidences of ‘stark’ conspicuous injustice against the Muslim Ummah.
The most important and unique nature of democracy is for the masses to have their rights protected from any act of violation by either the government itself or some handful of public criminals and culprits. We Muslims, safeguarding and securing the lives of our brothers in plateau, is among many of our rights. So, what our reps are doing? Traditional rulers, what are they doing? Islamic clerics, what are they doing? Islamic movement organizations such as JTI, JNI & MSS this is your teamwork. This is where we expect you to participate and instigate political and intellectual dialogue to oppose this Christian terrorism and inquire about the government’s stupidity on this horrific matter. You can do this, with the help of our Islamic clerics and traditional rulers, by issuing a multi-lateral memorandum to the government – to demand that you can no longer accept this nonsense. Perhaps the problem of our few Islamic movement organizations is lack of clarity of thought, and yet the Muslims fail to come out with a central standard and colossal Muslim Association with pure Islamic political vision to serve as ultimate protector, liberator and benefactor of the Muslim Ummah in Nigeria. This is a topic need to be discussed in separate theme.
What makes it legal for CAN to afford weapons must also make it legal for us to acquire. If the government fail (deliberately or otherwise) to salvage our Muslim community in Plateau let us move ahead. And if the government asks us why, let us ask them (the government) why not you. Either overtly or covertly the government security knows very well that CAN have been gathering military weapons and informally recruiting its militant youths against the Muslim – an act that once a Muslims organization start, it will be arrested and its members executed under the pretext of the American notion of terrorism threat. Why? Because it is now the Muslims doing it and according to them Muslims must not have that right but others (non-Muslims) have.
There is no any moral reason (or any other reason) to justify Muslim genocide in Plateau even though the Christian perpetrators of the genocide are trying to justify their act. But all their reasons have been ‘heap of ashes’. I have tried, albeit a little bit, to know why they are so aggressive to us when I have found no any justifiable reason for doing their terrorist act against us, knowing too well of the fact that we had never initiated commission of any aggression on them historically speaking. However, one of my discussant friends at home had informed me that Muslims in Plateau are paying the price for what their ancestral traditional rulers done from injustice, torture and slavery against the early non-muslims in the region. I told him that this was baseless claim and unfound fact. Where did he get this fake information I don’t know. From what our different peace and conflict researchers and scholars have documented I have found and reached a startling conclusion on the essence of Plateau crisis and conflict in the following lines: “At the bottom of the Jos conflict is the competition for political control as well as the issue of indigeneship. The competition and conflict springs from who is an indigene and who is not, and the rights and privileges derivable from being an indigene. Thus, indigeneship is not a mere status but a status that begets specific political, economic and psychological benefits. Non-indigenes, as defined and understood locally, are not entitled to certain political rights and privileges, while indigenes are assured to be (Best, 2007: 7 – 8; Human Rights Watch, 2001, 2004). The most aggressive ethnic group in Plateau are Berom, Anaguta and Afizere. They claimed that they are aiming at eliminating and dismissing the Hausa/Fulani who come for long time and dominate their social and economic affairs of Plateau. And they fear that in near future they will also dominate their political power as such they wanted to prevent it. They even vehemently uttered if these Hausa/Fulani will accept their polytheistic culture and convert to their religion that will end the conflict. Stupid Nonsense! From all political, moral and religious background these are all baseless reason to justify one’s genocide on particular community.
If so is the case, and if presumably is justified, then Muslims may have every right to attack and kill the Christians in Kano, sokkoto and so on where they (Christians) are provided with every right to partake in economic and social affairs and above all to practice freely their religion. But we shall not do it because our noble religion has obliged us to must grant all such right to non-Muslims even if they are residing in Islamic state. Alas, government must be blamed for all these sad happenings! Every man is born noble and free, with right to live and acquire wealth and power via fair means; the most determined and hardworking among them is bound to prosper more, and the most weak, lazy and redundant will be lagged behind. This is the parable of struggle between Berom/Anaguta/Afizere and Hausa/Fulani in Plateau. While the former that claim indigeneship of Plateau were redundant and less hardworking the latter were active and hardworking in pursuing social, political and economic prosperity as far as their living in Plateau is concerned. I have also heard that (but unconfirmed) that the CAN wanted to turn Plateau to become their northern Capital state. and finally, it is left for the teeming Muslim Ummah to mull over their living condition in Nigeria and to work out new strategies to cope with their political malaise and disenfranchisement in Nigeria.


Submitted by Salimullah

Many love experts believe in gematrical value of 1 4 3 to mean I love you, just because I is 1 letter, Love is 4 letters and You is 3 letters. So I ask: what of I MISS YOU, I HATE YOU AND EVEN I KILL YOU. With this I think their assumption is wrong. They should review their love games.

Why is this usisky too often running away from our formidable challenge. He just comes and says rubbish, and then go away unable to address the challenges we pose againt him. I can now see he can only raise a claim but he cannot defend. I will be here until he come back; and I know how to deal with him. I will never let him to move to another point of argument unless he address the multiple challenges and wuestion we pose in all our replies.

usisky:
@isale_gan2


[3:18]  GOD bears witness that there is no god except He(La EllaHa Ellal Allah), and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

All messengers before muhammad proclaim the same shahadah. Remember this is God teaching the Quran, not "abu huraira".

[21:25]  We did not send any messenger before you except with the inspiration: "There is no god except Me(La EllaHa Ellal Allah); you shall worship Me alone."

Sadly, today the teachings of "abu huraira", a mysterious person from the shadows of hadith literature,  has lead almost all the muslims worship muhammad alongside God against his will. people always tend to idolize the messenger after he has come and gone. Look at what the christians did to prophet Jesus for instance. jesus never taught any of those beliefs.

The Majority of Believers Destined for Hell

[12:106] The majority of those who believe in GOD do not do so without committing idol worship.

who are the majority? is the few like me who insists on Quran alone, without idolizing muhammad against his will or the vast majority who insists on commemorating muhammad alongside God.

Remember that shirk(idolatry) is the only unforgivable sin if maintained till death according to God in the quran.

perhaps you ran away from reply in your thread "reassessing our faith" where I have give details on validity of Shahada without attesting to messengership oF Muhammad. so, it follows you here for you no escape:

It is Allah that commands us to must believe in Him and his messenger (Muhammad, pbuh) for us to become full Muslims ((Q:48:8-9). (Q57:7), (Q4:152). (Q4:150-1), (Q4:136). etc. All these verses and other alike, instruct us to believe in Allah and His messenger and this can be attained by attesting to the divinity of Allah and the messengership of prophet muhammad. attaching prophet messengership of prophet Muhammad next to the divinity of Allah (swt) is the teaching of Allah to us as far as many verses in the Qur'an are concerned. If you said I testify there is deity but Allah meanwhile rejecting the messenger you are no longer a muslim at all. As now you testify divinity of Allah but reject the messengership of Muhhamd you are not a muslim.

And if you say: "God says all his messengers(moses,noah,jesus,muhammad,solomon, etc) are all equal in his sight, and that no one should make any distinction amongst them. today muslims are tricked to believe mluhammad is God's favorite prophet" I will restort to you that this means one should not make distiction as to say that Moses is a messenger of Allah but Jesus is not. By saying that you are making distinction which God forbids. For instance Christians and Jews distincted prophet Muhammad as not being a messenger of Allah. They are committingsin in making this distiction. Distiction in the verse that you qouted does not mean not to believe that some prophets/messengers are ranked over the others. Once you apply this meaning you are by then rejecting the verse in which Allah says: "These are the Rasools (which We have sent for the guidance of mankind). We have exalted some above others. To some Allah spoke directly; others He raised high in ranks, "(q2:257). If you say that a particular messenger/prophet is ranked over another it is the confirmation of God's word. This guy, the victim of Rashad has misconcieved the Qur'an alot as did his master (To ai dama ba malamai bane - i.e lo! they are not reliable islamic scholars). or did he forget this verse is in the Qur'an and came to us saying we should not say this messenger is more favourite than another. This is a real statement of Allah.

And when you say: "and besides why do u not add the other prophets names to the shahadah" and I say we attach prophst's name because he is our very messenger sent to entire mankind. Had we have come in the time of Moses or Jesus messengership we would been adding their name in our Shahadah. Although we belive in the all prophets/messengers we are not mandated to to proclaim thier name in Shahadah; for this is a specific tribute given to prophet muhammad being him the very last messenger of Allah to the entire world. This guy cannot stand our test; he is completely ignorant of Qur'an, and so did Rashad.

And when you say: "verse(72:18) commands the muslims that they should not call on any name besides God in the places of worship. but do the muslims really abide. they go to the mosque, they call God and then next to Him they put a human creature of his, " and I say you dont even know Arabic; because the word "Tad'uu" as contained in the very Qur'anic Arabic text refers to worship not call, for the world call can be best translated and equated with the Arabic word "Nida'u". Therefore, we all know that Mosque is not a place of calling names, but is a place of worship. So Allah instruct us not to worship any one besides him. If you insist it means not to call names of people, I believe even you have once called the name of your friend or brother as you meet in the mosque perhaps before or after prayer. Is this mean you worship that your friend or brother just by calling his name. The very point I want make hear is that mentioning the name of prophet Muhammad in the mosque for the purpose of re-proclaiming your belief is an act of worship. Not only that, in your prayer recitation you may across some qur'anic verses containing the names of people (believers and unbelievers) like prophets' names; and also some other unbelievers like Fir'aun, Abu lahab Haman, e.t.c. But the irony is that you are not worshiping this people just because you mention their names, but you worshipping Allah by reciting His Qur'an. However, if you mention prop[het's name (Muhammad) either in Addhan or Iqamah for re-proclaiming your belief in Allah and His messenger your are also worhipping Allah because procaliming belief in Allah and His messenger (Muhammad) is a very act of wroship to Allah as we have noted so far in various Qur'an verses. Additionally Allah commands us to be making 'Salat' (Allahumman Salli, Muhammad, ) for the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) (Q33:56), making Salat for the prophet muhammad is an act of worshipping Allah, and there is no salat without mentioning his name. Therefor if I make my salat for the prophet in the mosque is that means I worhip him just because I mention his name? No I am by that very time worshipping Allah (swt). My true brothers in Islam note Rashad Khalifa have invalidated this command of Allah (Q33:56) by changing its meaning. He maintained that the verse means to help the prophet but not to make salat for him. My brothers tell this guy, Usisky to continue seraching for the truth because the position he is now in is not the authentic and reliable one.

He say that he is a man of science; but he cannot escape from deceptive theory of Rashad religion. How can you be a man of science when I can see that Rashad is playing trick with your thought and mind
. May Allah guide you to the right path, my piteous brother.

I am doing all these long 'reply post' lest you say in the hereafter that you have never been informed about the truth.

And until now you cannot prove as how the Muslims are worshiping the prophet (S.A.W). I have already clarified the verse(72:18) which you misconceived a lot. Having now I removed your misconception about it, how can you prove your claim again. We still wait to answer the practical audio-visual debate invitation put forward to you by lagosboy. Are you afraid. If you are really dubiously misguided by Rashad website, so we pray that Allah may guide you again. But if you are just doing your 'iskanci' this is how we deal with people like you. Muhsin and others have a good job. Thanks

If usisky can claim victory he can do it now. Jarus has done what i may call 'overreaction' to usiskiy's distorted belief and for that I can see no fairness in this. For how long we have been encountering with most vehement typical unbelievers like christians, jews, atheists and secularists as well. So what is minor opponent like usisky with his shallow religious thought? Instead of this direct 'warning message' Jarus should post a meaningful and convincing thread for usisky to learn his mistaken belief. I dont know whether Jarus means something different. But in any way I can see no fairness in this direct 'warning message' sent to usisky. Not only now, even in later time I bet usisky will never dare to accept any truth from Jarus.

The issue of usisky is very easy to deal with it. We can contain this debate and even defeat him. therefore, the direct 'warning message' must have become irrelevant. That is all!

Usisky I can still see you persist in your Rashad religion. Rashad told us that he was a messenger sent from Allah. what is your view on this? (pls I need a clear cut from Qur'an verses that proves this claim of Rashad) So if you are asking us to abandon the prophet's sunnah/hadith what makes it authority in Islam to accept Rashad's Hadith/sunnah? He tell us in his hadith that he had once undergone mi'iraj and met the previous prophets of Allah in the heavens; He tell us that prophet Ibrahim reassembles to his family; He tell us that the world will come to an end in the year 2220 C.E equivalent to 1710 A.H; He tell us that we should stop making Salat for the prophet
(S.A.W). These and many more others came from Rashad's Sunnah/hadith since they are not stated in the QUr'an. Before you urge us to abandon the prophet sunnah/hadith we need you to comment on this Rashad's sunna. Put in other word, which QUR'AN ask us to adhere to Rashad's hadith/sunnah?

it is may wish to further clarify the inevitability iof Prophet Hadith/sunnah in our religion of Allah (not that of Rashad), I therefore present this long thread but as a reply to all your claims against the hadith/sunnah:

Anti-hadith had this to quote:

“'Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Whoever wrote, must destroy it"

(Muslim, Zuhd 72; Hanbel3/12,21,39). They failed to know that the ban was a certain phenomena due to some intricate reasons. But as soon as things were settled the companions had continued preserving prophet’s practical instructions: Abu hurayra, Ibn Abbas, Ibn Umar were even had their Hadith traditional documents during the prophet’s (pbuh) life and after.


It is not only here (Nigeria) that we are having such people known as Qur’aniyya, or Kala-Kato. Rashad Khalifa (1935-1990), was an American Muslim (Egyptian by origin) who studied biochemistry and learned Qur’an commentary. He founded such a Muslim sect as Kala-kato, popularly known as Qur’an Alone or United Submission International (USI), in Arizona, USA. He came up with mathematical calculation based on 19-data system mentioned in Sura 74:30, to destroy all the prophetic Sunnah/Hadith. Presently, the followers of Rashad regard him as the messenger of God. I want to make it clear to the so called Kala-Kato group (Anti-Hadith group), to understand the inherent nature of the prophet Hadith/Sunnah as a major source of instructions in the religion of Islam. The following discussion is a retort to both Kala-kato here in Nigeria and Rashad’s Qur’an alone in U.S.A as well as all those identified themselves as anti-hadith group.

Anti-hadith group, as in Rashad’s words, usually says “The Quran commands all Muslims to follow the Quran Alone…. The Quran confirms that the only Sunna is the Sunna of God. No where in the Qur’an is there any mention of Sunna't Muhammad; the Quran confirms that the only duty of Muhammad is to deliver God's message, and not to teach any other teachings; Obeying the prophet does not mean that he had a Sunna to be obeyed; and that any verse that commands obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him) it only refers to follow the Qur’an alone”.

This is quite true of course, because the Prophet (peace be upon him) lived by the Qur’an, for the Qur’an and with the Qur’an. However, they could not escape from my trap yet; because certain verses in the Qur’an explained that more and more lessons and laws must be learned from the physical, and social life of the prophet (peace be upon him); and that Hadith/Sunnah must have been an authoritative source of religious information about all aspect of legal laws and general Ibadaat (Worships). Some of the instances are as follows:

Firstly, in Quran 59:7 Allah says: “…, So take what the messenger assigns to you and abstain from that which forbids you….”. Nevertheless, anti-hadith groups had confined the meaning of this verse only to the distribution of war booties that will not harm us; the verse is clearly all-encompassing.



Secondly, in Qur’an 4:65 Allah says: “But no, by your lord, they will not have (real) faith until they make you judge in all (arising) matters among them, and find no resistance in their soul against your decision; but accept them with fullest conviction (i.e. hundred percent)”. Let us now elaborate the messages of the above quoted verses.



Clarification on the first verse (59:7): The verse clearly indicates that the prophet (peace be upon him) has an authoritative right to command as well as to prohibit certain acts and behaviours for the believers. Although the verse has a specific theme in relation to the spoils of war- as Rashad claimed to reject prophet’s right to command or prohibit- this would not change the general meaning of the verse as far as other verses are concerned. E.g. Allah says: “Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures), in the Law and Gospel, for he commands them what is good and forbids what is evil; he makes lawful for them what is pure and prohibits them what is impure…, ” (7:157). In other verse Allah spoke about those who tend to disobey the prophet’s Sunna: “…. Let them beware (those who disobeys the Messenger’s order) for a disaster may befall them or a grievous torment inflict on them” (24:63).



These two verses are in support of the prophet’s right to command or prohibit in religious laws and Ibadaat; but he does this all with the permission and inspiration from Allah. The key words like command, forbid or prohibit as according to the above quoted verses here are totally referred in the hands of the prophet (peace be upon him). And I bet that all the orthodox Muslims scholars are fully aware of this divine right of the prophet which Kala-katos, anti-hadith and Rashadis wanted to reject and deny.



According to this verse (59:7) also, in general theme, the verse means that all what the prophet commands the believers they must hold on to it; and all what he prohibits they must abstain from it. The failure of doing so, the result against them will be what Allah mentioned in 24:63. You must bear in mind that the commands and prohibitions of the prophet (peace be upon him) are equally important as those contained in the Qur’an itself. Because Allah says: “Nor does he speak out of a personal desire; (unless) it was a divine inspiration” (53:3-4).



It should be noted that the commands and prohibitions of the prophet (peace be upon him) includes all what he said about what he was asked by the companions, all what he said in addressing a particular event or matter, all what he heard someone saying or saw him doing and regards or disregards it, and it includes all of his practices, behaviours, characters which he conducted himself in the society as a religious and political leader. No one can deny the necessity of human socialization. And in such socialization an individual must exhibit certain actions and behaviours which can be imitated and recommended or rejected by the society members. Furthermore, it is generally accepted that in every single second in life man must be in action, either physically, orally, intellectually or mentally.



So, prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as the last messenger of Allah sent to guide the Mankind whose behaviours, actions and characters must be imitated and emulated, any minute of his speech, statement, action, movement and behaviour has been encoded, collected and recorded first orally by his companions, and later on documented orally and booked in leaflets and papers by the pious predecessors. And in such of his speeches the prophet Muhammad as a guidance to the truth he would say that is ‘Halal’ (lawful) and that is ‘Haram’ (unlawful). It was such information, actions and behaviours that were come to be known as Hadith\Sunnah of the prophet (peace be upon him). But, it is fatally unfortunate that the so called all Anti-Hadith fail to comprehend all these facts. To follow the Qur’an alone is to follow the prophet Sunnah; and any act of deviation from the prophet Sunnah is a deviation from the Qur’an alone as we have noted this so far.



Therefore, the prophet’s Sunnah are all those physical and spiritual teachings of the Qur’an which no one can extract them from the Qur’an and put them into practical social behaviour and religious acts except him, the prophet (peace be upon him). So, during his life, the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) conducted himself in all religious, social and behavioural teachings of the Qur’an and assigned to us how to practice them. It is worthy to note that prophet Muhammad’s (peace be upon him) personality represents the practical manifestation of the Qur’an’s socio-moral, ritual and legal messages. Thus, Allah informed us to imitate and emulate all his actions and behaviours (Sura 33:21); and to obey his saying of commands and prohibitions (Sura 59:7). The failure to do any of these commands is a great sin in the sight of Allah and the guilty of this may incur severe retribution (Sura 24:63). At most of the time, we, the orthodox Muslims proclaim that Prophet Sunnah/hadith explains and clarifies the Qur’an. When the Rashadis (Rashad’s followers) and other anti-hadith groups wanted to destroy this view of ours they said that about two-third of the Qur’an had been left unexplained by the Hadith. So, I am here responding in defence of the Sunnah. Anti-hadith groups should know that our presented view does not mean that the prophet had explained the whole Qur’an word by word although some few verses were explained in such manner. But the majority of the verses and the Qur’an in general, their explanation are typically demonstrated in the physical behaviour of the Prophet (peace be upon him). As we have stated above, Prophet Muhammad’s (peace be upon him) personality represents the practical manifestation of the Qur’an’s socio-moral, ritual and legal teachings. When Sayyidat A’isha (R.A) was asked about the prophet’s behaviour she answered; “His (all) behaviour is Qur’an”, meaning He conducts himself according to the teachings of the Qur’an. The prophet’s demeanour could not be reflected in the Qur’an unless we refer to the Historical records of His life and behaviour, and that is Hadith/Sunnah.





Clarification of the 2nd second verse (4:65)

There is no doubt that this is the most fundamental verse that destroys any concept of rejecting the Prophet Sunnah/hadith as the second fundamental source of religious instructions. This verse portrays the supremacy of the prophet Muhammad’s – peace be upon – decisions and legal judgments in any of the religious, social, political, and economic affairs, and no one can deny or reject his judgment, and therefore all what he decided for the believers must be embraced and accepted wholeheartedly and without reservation if any. According to the verse also, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was a divinely appointed judge in all arising matters in any aspect of life, and he must be regarded as a chief and final judge in all matters. Whoever seeks to deny the prophet this divine right he is not a fully Muslim believer as far as the verse is concerned. To be more specific, in this verse, Allah informs and commands us that the prophet (peace be upon him) must be recognized as a chief judge in all our social, religious, political and economic problems, questions or misconceptions; and that all of his decisions, judgments and proposals must be accepted and highly respected at all the times. The failure of doing so will render one unbeliever/hypocrite. Even though, the prophet (peace be upon him) is not here with us now, his Sunnah\hadith is yet extant and alive with us, and we are cautioned that not to contradict any part of his Sunnah (Sura24:63).



Finally, when we are to draw a conclusion, in relation to Kala-katos, Anti-hadith and Rashadis’ (all are the same) position in the light of the above quoted verses, we must categorize them under apostate/hypocrite Muslims because they contradicted, disobeyed, and defied all the prophet’s commands, prohibitions and decisions. Instead of following the authentic prophet’s Sunnah, they have founded an alternative Sunnah to be followed based on their own satanic views. The same conclusion would be applied to all their followers. Are we to abandon the Prophet’s Sunna upon accepting someone else’s Sunnah? By explaining the Qur’an to be followed alone they are establishing their own Sunnah.

No2Atheism:
Islam is about territorial expansion hence since they have consolidated a part of nairaland why not expanded into other parts . . .

Thanks for your observation. But it is a comparative piece. any way I will do later again.

Yes, of course abu zola, it was corrupted with the works of men. and NUclearboy is asking whether it was corrupted before/after the prophet. I will play seeker's ball that It was corrupted since before the advent of the prophet. I could remember that I had once inquired to know the meaning of bible, and I have found that it is a greek word which means a collection of books/writings by different authors. with this I will say YES to you Abu zola. SUBSCRIBED WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have posted a powerful truth under the title "Who is the Revealer of the Qur'an three times but always found none when I come again to view. Please WHY?

WHO IS THE REVEALER OF THE QUR’AN: Possible Inspirational Sources of the Qur’an –
A Critical Analysis and Elimination Method
By Salimullah
Bayero University Kano, Nigeria.

Looking back at the previous post, it is evident that the powerful truth that was raised has defeated the baseless claims and allegations of the blind Christians in which they seek to deny the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) his inherent divine commission of being the God’s messenger. Thanks to God that all of our corroborations were derived from their bible. And today, we shall deal with another baseless claim concocted by the same blind Christians alleging that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an, or he copied it from the bible, or he was dictated by satan and e.t.c. Our very sincere intention is this new post is to examine, analyze and verify, with the aim of realizing the truth, to what extent is this baseless claim and allegation is true.

Definition of the noble Qur’an can be known in the following references:
{(Q26:192-196), Is29:12, Rev14:6-9, 1Cor13:910, Is28:10-11, Zep3:6

A possible inspirational source of the Qur’an according to the belief of both the believers and unbelievers is one of the following assumptions: Muhammad (pbuh), Arab Poets, Jews-Christian scholars, Man, Satan, Allah.

According to the Muslims only Allah (swt) is the original revealer and indeed, the inspirational source of the Qur’an. The other sources are mere utterances of the unbelievers. They believe that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an being dictated by either Jews-Christian scholars, a Man and or Satan. If there is any author of the Qur’an that would be Allah, the Almighty.

ELIMINATION METHOD

Muhammad?
Those who are saying prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an must be professional liars and therefore must be defeated based on the following rational proofs:
 He was unlettered (Q29:48), so how can he be able to author a book.
 He is trustworthy (Q10:15-16), so how can he come and make lie to Allah (swt) when even his own enemies confirm his trustworthiness and honesty.
 Jesus Mother was ranked above all women in the Qur’an (Q3:42), including the Prophet Muhammad’s mother and daughters. How can one write a complete book while downgrading his own family in it? This is illogical. He can only do that when it is a direct order from his, master or a divine revelation from his God. The fact that Jesus mother was ranked over prophet’s Muhammad mother indicates that he was not the author of the Qur’an, and by extension it confirms the revelation from God. Had it been Muhammad (pbuh) was the author he would have ranked his mother over all women. Be logical in your thoughts.
 The author reproves himself (Q80:1, Q33:37, Q18:23-24, Q20:114). It is a factual reality that in the Qur’an the revealer has frequently proving himself as the author of the book. This means Qur’an knows his revealer and author On the contrary, the bible does not know his author and does not even know that his name is bible; for the very word ‘bible was missing throughout.
 The scientific truths contained in the Qur’an make it impossible to say that a man who lived 14ooyrs ago, before the discovery of modern science could be able to grasp it. This clearly proves to us that it was the statement of the creator of the world (the very object in which makes his scientific discovery).
Thus, this claim was found wrong and eliminated.

Jews-Christian scholars?
 Muhammad could neither read nor write (Q29:48), so how can he learn from Jews-Christian scholars? Nonsense. He was Arab man and their olden scriptures were in Jewish language. This claim also eliminated.

Arab Poets?
 The Arab themselves were challenged (Q2:23-24, Q10:37). If it was authored by Arab poets other groups of Arabs could also produce like it.
 The presence of new style of beginning a speech in the Qur’an which was unknown to the tradition of Arab poets makes the impossibility of Qur’an being written by them.
 The Arabs themselves need more explanations to understand the Qur’an.

Man?
How can a man be the author of the very book in which he was degraded. Can a man author a book and at the same time discrediting himself in the book. Qur’an portrays man as thus:
 Man was reproached for having Weakness: (Q22:73, Q30:40, Q:86:5-10.
 He was criticized of having the nature of despair, prodigality, exultance and boastfulness (Q10:12, Q11:9-10, Q17:83, Q:10:33&36, Q57:22-23).
 He was blamed of Disbelief and Oppression (Q:14:34, Q43:15, Q80:17, Q6:116, Q12:103).
 Being Quarrelsome and Opponent (Q:16:4, Q18:54).
 Man also was unjust and ungrateful in the Qur’an (Q33:73, Q7:171, Q14:34 e.t.c).

How cans a man that assumed to have authored the Qur’an will criticize, castigate, disown, despise, and blame himself of the mentioned bad things and behaviours? That is highly illogical, irrational and impossible.

SATAN?
According to Qur’an Satan was described throughout in the following points:
 He is a Sneaking Whisperer (Q114:4-5).
 His followers incurred lost and torment (Q4:119-120, Q17:64).
 Qur’an orders us to seek refuge in God against Satan (Q16:98).
 Satan is powerless in the Qur’an (Q16:99).
 He is being accursed throughout the pages of the Qur’an: *An open Enemy (Q2:168, 208, Q6:142, Q7:22, Q17:53, Q35:6, Q30:60); *A Deceiver (Q35:5); *Man’s Deserter (Q38:74-75); *An Arrogant (Q38:74-75).

How cans Satan, the alleged author of the Qur’an will accurse, disclaim and betray himself in the very book he was assumed to have authored. This too, is highly illogical, irrational and impossible. Had it been by the Satan he would have not been cursing and disclaiming himself in the book.

WHY GOD (ALLAH)?
Several textual and rational proofs and evidence have been, and yet being citing for the arrogant and stubborn to believe in the true and perfect religion. For the sake of those stubborn unbelievers we are not going to cite the textual (Quranic verses) proofs but only the rationalistic and scientific ones. The scientific truth contained in the Qur’an since 1400yrs and only came to be discovered today by modern science and the mathematical composition of the Qur’an makes it the true divine revelation from Allah the Most High. And these are the only unique features of the Qur’an that no any other religious book shares with it. To invoke the words of Buccaile: “Scientific statements such as these are only one specific aspect of the Islamic revelation which the Bible does not share”. We have already discussed a lot on the scientific truth in the Qur’an in different posts and counter-posts by different brothers on this forum whereby we have wholly defeated the nonsensical claims by the opponents. I will now confine my argument to mathematical composition of the Qur’an to prove its reality of being the true and perfect revelation of God. DR. Tariq AL-SUWAIDAN made exposed the following powerful discovery on the Qur’anic mathematical miracle:

Al-bahar (Sea) mentioned in the whole of the holy Qur’an = 32. An Al-bar (Land) =13. The statistic is as follows:

Al-bahar (Sea) = 32
Al_bar (Land) = 13

If we add up the total words of both
"sea" and "land" we get 45.
Now if we do a simple calculation:
32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111% (percentage of water)
13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888% (percentage of land)
Above is what we know today as the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. The same conclusion is reached by modern science. ALLAHU AKBAR, WHAT A BOOK OF GOD!

Below are some more examples of some Words Mentioned in the Quran:

Al-Dunya (world) =115,
Al-Akhira (hereafter) =115,

Al-Mala'ikah (Angels) = 88
Al-Shayateen (Satan) = 88

Al-Hayat (Life) = 145
Al-Maut (Death) = 145
Al-Rajul (Man) = 24,
Al-Mar'ha (Women) = 24

Al-Shahr (Month) = 12 (the total number of months in universal calendar)
Al-Yauom (Day) = 365 (the total number of days in a year)

What’s more! The Heretical Rashad Khalifa also made a powerful discovery of mathematical composition of the Qur’an. He was led astray due to boast of his discovery. The standard mathematical miracle of the Qur’an is that: “OVER IT IS NINETEEN (19)” {Q74:30}. What does it mean?

Item 1: The First Commandment is coded by 19: “La – Elahe – Ella – Allah” (there is no deity except Allah): (Numerical values corresponding each Arabic letter is given below)
30 1 – 1 30 5 – 1 30 1 – 1 30 30 5
= 30113051301130305
= 19 x ……

Item 2: The Basmalah (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) is so special and unique. It consists of exactly 19 Arabic letters.

Item 3: There are 114 Basmalahs in the Quran and this also entails 114 chapters in the Qur’an. It is interesting to note that 144 = 19 x 6

Item 4: The first revelation of the Quran (Sura 96:1-5) it exactly consists of 19 Arabic words and 76 letters: 76 = 19 x 4.

Item 5: The last revelation of the Quran (Sura 110) consists of 19 Arabic words. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of 19 Arabic letters.

Item 6: Finally, the total number of the Arabic letters in the Qur’an is 97,489. And 97489 = 19 x 5131.
This last item (item 6) is my own personal discovery in my attempts to prove wrong, some heretical ideas of Rashad. These are only a minute.

LET THEM SPEAK AND WILL HERE MORE LIKE EVER BEOFRE!!!!
Submitted by Salimullah

Abu Zola, dont worry. they would not believe. Remind them that the bible they are professing was asked: what is your name? I dont know. It is a mere collection of historian thoughts.

THE FALLACIES IN SAUDI ARABIA’S CONSTITUTION
By S. Salimullah

The constitution of Saudi Arabia there is no doubt that it employs deceptive and delusive provisions; it also omits some crucial points of focus as far as Islamic power is concerned.

For instance, Chapter 2 Article 5 [Monarchy] reads as follows:
“(a) The system of government in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is that of a monarchy (?).
(b) Rule passes to the sons of the founding King, Abd al-Aziz Bin Abd al-Rahman al-Faysal Al Sa'ud, and to their children's children. The most upright among them is to receive allegiance in accordance with the principles of the Holy Koran and the Tradition of the Venerable Prophet.
(c) The King chooses the Heir Apparent and relieves him of his duties by Royal order.”

This provision is typically un-Islamic; for there has been no monarchy in Islam and it is not an Islamic system of government or leadership. Essentially, as Sunni group, our first opposition to Shi’a is against their belief in monarchy, saying that the leadership of Islam after Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) deserves his relatives and family only. For this reason we opposed and hated Shi’a since that time. But today the irony is the case. The top nation that professes to defend Islam according to the thought of Ahl-al-Sunnah (our group of Muslims that previously opposed Monarchy) they are today mentioning Monarchy as their best system of government. Note that Monarchy is an un-Islamic ideology. What a contradiction! Why they do so? We don’t know.

Secondly, Chapter 5 Article 33 [Armed Forces] of the constitution reads thus: “The state establishes and equips the Armed Forces for the defence of the Islamic religion, the Two Holy Places, society, and the citizen”.

This provision is evident. They profess to defend Islam and the holy cities of Islam. Today we know that Islam and the Muslims are the most persecutive community in the world. And even in the two holy cities there is the military base of those enemies of Islam that have been for long attacking Muslim lands and killing the Muslim brothers. And these foreign enemies’ Armies were officially invited into the land of Islam by the leaders of the same land of Islam. How can they justify that they are defending Islam? The pretext of 9/11 was invented against the Muslims but there had been no official report from our leaders in defending Muslims for crime they have never committed. Thus Afghanistan was unjustly invaded before their very eyes. An American army in Afghanistan had deliberately shot our Noble Qur’an but went unscathed. The so called leaders of Islam were unable to trace the case to ensure that the culprit was truly punished accordingly. Like wise Iraq was attacked and invaded under the pretext of disarming Saddam from WMDs. The government was overthrown with detecting a single element of WMDs. It has come to the knowledge of the world that the War in both Iraq and Afghanistan were utterly unjust and out of due cause; but yet no official memorandum issued by the so called leaders and defenders of Islam at least to express their grievances as against the American injustice against the global Muslims. The truth is that the leaders and defenders are politically powerless and puppet: unable to even maintain dialogue and Table debate with the West to defend Islam and the Muslim community in the world. Whatever the West says or decide they can only node their head to surrender.


In the Constitution also, there is no mention of any concept of Islamic independent political power, nor does it mention the elimination of foreign imperialism and influence. These are the most two threats that render most of the Muslim countries politically inactive, militarily powerless and economically dependent in the world. Unless each and every Muslim nation eliminates foreign political hegemony and imperialism they will never attain absolute independence in the world politically, economically and militarily. The main problem of Saudi hopelessness is that they regard the US as their ultimate benefactor and protector in the world. Here is what the King Abdul’aziz is saying: "I love your country and admire your president [Franklin D. Roosevelt], and am very grateful for the services which members of your mission have shown me and my people. You come wanting only to help us."
King Abdulaziz bin Abdulrahman Al-Saud to U.S. medical mission in Riyadh, January 10, 1937.

one of the many lies of the history is their saying: “the Saudi-U.S. friendship has not only continued but has weathered many storms, including numerous regional and global conflicts and crises…….,. This is a lie but the truth was a stark opposite. Every day and now the regional conflict and crises are always increasing in high rate.


Submitted by Salimullah

Thanks Abuzola for your qoute. I now can perceive that Jesus is indirectly telling them he is the son of a Human and not God,

bible did not only encourages cannibalism but also other crimes and immoralities. I have read in the bible that When the Israelites killed Midianite men, they plundered their lands but allowed the women and children to live. Moses thundered "why have you kept all the women alive? Kill every boy and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse, but keep alive for yourselves all the girls and all the women who are virgins" (Numbers 31 : 15-18). It encourages illicit sex.

Also "Now listen to what the Almighty says … Go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy every thing they have. Don’t leave a thing: kill all the men, women, children and babies, the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys" ( I Samuel 15 : 1-3).

"When you capture cities in the land that the lord has given you, kill everyone" (Deut. 20:16) .

Sometimes in a comparative debate bible was asked: what is your name? I dont know. Who is your author? I dont know. After the debate we went to the library and traced the origin of the word 'bible'. The rusult shows that the word bible is of greek origin and it means a collection of writing or books compiled by different authors. That is why throughout the bible the 2nd person is dominated and other expression like according to so, and so. These, with many other inhuman provisions and scientific errors contained in the bible makes it undivine in nature, albeit it incorporates some divine words.

How can Jesus die to save you from sin when your bible says: The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. (EZEKIEL CH. 18:20). THE TRUTH IS THAT CHRISTIANS ARE UTTERLY DELUDED IN THEIR THOUGHT. ABU ZOLA IS NORMAL BUT IT IS THE CHRISTIANS THAT ARE ABNORMAL. This what the Qur'an says about thier sickness:

In fact, as for those who reject Faith; it is the same, whether you warn them or you don't, they will not believe. In fact, as for those who reject Faith; it is the same, whether you warn them or you don't, they will not believe. (Q2:6)

Why?
because OF THEIR STUBBORN TO THE TRUTH: Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing, their eyes are covered, and there is a grievous punishment for them (Q2:7).

And what causes thier unbelief?

here is a disease of deception in their heart; and Allah lets their disease increase, and they shall have painful
punishment for the lies they have told. (Q2:10). May God guide the righteous.

Oyawuni:
So i suggest that:as a new year resolution,you make up your mind to follow GOD and his laws,

Which God are you talking about: the holy spirit, the father or the son?

viaro:
Why do you resort to blatant lies as cosmetic for your adventures? Why do you make these cowardly [list][li]Genesis 16:3[/li]
[li]Genesis 16:6[/li]
[li]Genesis 16:8[/li]
[li]Genesis 16:9[/li]
[li]Genesis 16:12[/li][/list]

[list][li]Genesis 17:19[/li]
[li]Genesis 25:18[/li][/list]

[list][li]Deuteronomy 5:2, 3[/li]
[li]Deuteronomy 17:14-15[/li]
[li]Deuteronomy 18:18[/li]
[li]Leviticus 20:2[/li]
[li]Leviticus 22:10[/li]
[li]Leviticus 24:22[/li]
[li]Exodus 12:43-45, 48[/li]
[li]Exodus 29:33[/li][/list]

But I used the real text not mere numbers. I f are you not afraid I let you to put forward, the textual words of the numbers you provided.

it is this kind of us irrational war that makes so many people to think that american leaders have gone crazy and wild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!nonsense policy.

WHO IS THE REVEALER OF THE QUR’AN: Possible Inspirational Sources of the Qur’an –
A Critical Analysis and Elimination Method
By Salimullah
Bayero University Kano, Nigeria.
Looking back at the previous post, it is evident that the powerful truth that was raised has defeated the baseless claims and allegations of the blind Christians in which they seek to deny the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) his inherent divine commission of being the God’s messenger. Thanks to God that all of our corroborations were derived from their bible. And today, we shall deal with another baseless claim concocted by the same blind Christians alleging that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an, or he copied it from the bible, or he was dictated by satan and e.t.c. Our very sincere intention is this new post is to examine, analyze and verify, with the aim of realizing the truth, to what extent is this baseless claim and allegation is true.

Definition of the noble Qur’an can be known in the following references:
{(Q26:192-196), Is29:12, Rev14:6-9, 1Cor13:910, Is28:10-11, Zep3:6

A possible inspirational source of the Qur’an according to the belief of both the believers and unbelievers is one of the following assumptions: Muhammad (pbuh), Arab Poets, Jews-Christian scholars, Man, Satan, Allah.

According to the Muslims only Allah (swt) is the original revealer and indeed, the inspirational source of the Qur’an. The other sources are mere utterances of the unbelievers. They believe that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an being dictated by either Jews-Christian scholars, a Man and or Satan. If there is any author of the Qur’an that would be Allah, the Almighty.

ELIMINATION METHOD

Muhammad?
Those who are saying prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an must be professional liars and therefore must be defeated based on the following rational proofs:
 He was unlettered (Q29:48), so how can he be able to author a book.
 He is trustworthy (Q10:15-16), so how can he come and make lie to Allah (swt) when even his own enemies confirm his trustworthiness and honesty.
 Jesus Mother was ranked above all women in the Qur’an (Q3:42), including the Prophet Muhammad’s mother and daughters. How can one write a complete book while downgrading his own family in it? This is illogical. He can only do that when it is a direct order from his, master or a divine revelation from his God. The fact that Jesus mother was ranked over prophet’s Muhammad mother indicates that he was not the author of the Qur’an, and by extension it confirms the revelation from God. Had it been Muhammad (pbuh) was the author he would have ranked his mother over all women. Be logical in your thoughts.
 The author reproves himself (Q80:1, Q33:37, Q18:23-24, Q20:114). It is a factual reality that in the Qur’an the revealer has frequently proving himself as the author of the book. This means Qur’an knows his revealer and author On the contrary, the bible does not know his author and does not even know that his name is bible; for the very word ‘bible was missing throughout.
 The scientific truths contained in the Qur’an make it impossible to say that a man who lived 14ooyrs ago, before the discovery of modern science could be able to grasp it. This clearly proves to us that it was the statement of the creator of the world (the very object in which makes his scientific discovery).
Thus, this claim was found wrong and eliminated.

Jews-Christian scholars?
 Muhammad could neither read nor write (Q29:48), so how can he learn from Jews-Christian scholars? Nonsense. He was Arab man and their olden scriptures were in Jewish language. This claim also eliminated.

Arab Poets?
 The Arab themselves were challenged (Q2:23-24, Q10:37). If it was authored by Arab poets other groups of Arabs could also produce like it.
 The presence of new style of beginning a speech in the Qur’an which was unknown to the tradition of Arab poets makes the impossibility of Qur’an being written by them.
 The Arabs themselves need more explanations to understand the Qur’an.

Man?
How can a man be the author of the very book in which he was degraded. Can a man author a book and at the same time discrediting himself in the book. Qur’an portrays man as thus:
 Man was reproached for having Weakness: (Q22:73, Q30:40, Q:86:5-10.
 He was criticized of having the nature of despair, prodigality, exultance and boastfulness (Q10:12, Q11:9-10, Q17:83, Q:10:33&36, Q57:22-23).
 He was blamed of Disbelief and Oppression (Q:14:34, Q43:15, Q80:17, Q6:116, Q12:103).
 Being Quarrelsome and Opponent (Q:16:4, Q18:54).
 Man also was unjust and ungrateful in the Qur’an (Q33:73, Q7:171, Q14:34 e.t.c).

How cans a man that assumed to have authored the Qur’an will criticize, castigate, disown, despise, and blame himself of the mentioned bad things and behaviours? That is highly illogical, irrational and impossible.

SATAN?
According to Qur’an Satan was described throughout in the following points:
 He is a Sneaking Whisperer (Q114:4-5).
 His followers incurred lost and torment (Q4:119-120, Q17:64).
 Qur’an orders us to seek refuge in God against Satan (Q16:98).
 Satan is powerless in the Qur’an (Q16:99).
 He is being accursed throughout the pages of the Qur’an: *An open Enemy (Q2:168, 208, Q6:142, Q7:22, Q17:53, Q35:6, Q30:60); *A Deceiver (Q35:5); *Man’s Deserter (Q38:74-75); *An Arrogant (Q38:74-75).

How cans Satan, the alleged author of the Qur’an will accurse, disclaim and betray himself in the very book he was assumed to have authored. This too, is highly illogical, irrational and impossible. Had it been by the Satan he would have not been cursing and disclaiming himself in the book.

WHY GOD (ALLAH)?
Several textual and rational proofs and evidence have been, and yet being citing for the arrogant and stubborn to believe in the true and perfect religion. For the sake of those stubborn unbelievers we are not going to cite the textual (Quranic verses) proofs but only the rationalistic and scientific ones. The scientific truth contained in the Qur’an since 1400yrs and only came to be discovered today by modern science and the mathematical composition of the Qur’an makes it the true divine revelation from Allah the Most High. And these are the only unique features of the Qur’an that no any other religious book shares with it. To invoke the words of Buccaile: “Scientific statements such as these are only one specific aspect of the Islamic revelation which the Bible does not share”. We have already discussed a lot on the scientific truth in the Qur’an in different posts and counter-posts by different brothers on this forum whereby we have wholly defeated the nonsensical claims by the opponents. I will now confine my argument to mathematical composition of the Qur’an to prove its reality of being the true and perfect revelation of God. DR. Tariq AL-SUWAIDAN made exposed the following powerful discovery on the Qur’anic mathematical miracle:

Al-bahar (Sea) mentioned in the whole of the holy Qur’an = 32. An Al-bar (Land) =13. The statistic is as follows:

Al-bahar (Sea) = 32
Al_bar (Land) = 13

If we add up the total words of both
"sea" and "land" we get 45.
Now if we do a simple calculation:
32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111% (percentage of water)
13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888% (percentage of land)
Above is what we know today as the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. The same conclusion is reached by modern science. ALLAHU AKBAR, WHAT A BOOK OF GOD!

Below are some more examples of some Words Mentioned in the Quran:

Al-Dunya (world) =115,
Al-Akhira (hereafter) =115,

Al-Mala'ikah (Angels) = 88
Al-Shayateen (Satan) = 88

Al-Hayat (Life) = 145
Al-Maut (Death) = 145
Al-Rajul (Man) = 24,
Al-Mar'ha (Women) = 24

Al-Shahr (Month) = 12 (the total number of months in universal calendar)
Al-Yauom (Day) = 365 (the total number of days in a year)

What’s more! The Heretical Rashad Khalifa also made a powerful discovery of mathematical composition of the Qur’an. He was led astray due to boast of his discovery. The standard mathematical miracle of the Qur’an is that: “OVER IT IS NINETEEN (19)” {Q74:30}. What does it mean?

Item 1: The First Commandment is coded by 19: “La – Elahe – Ella – Allah” (there is no deity except Allah): (Numerical values corresponding each Arabic letter is given below)
30 1 – 1 30 5 – 1 30 1 – 1 30 30 5
= 30113051301130305
= 19 x ……

Item 2: The Basmalah (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) is so special and unique. It consists of exactly 19 Arabic letters.

Item 3: There are 114 Basmalahs in the Quran and this also entails 114 chapters in the Qur’an. It is interesting to note that 144 = 19 x 6

Item 4: The first revelation of the Quran (Sura 96:1-5) it exactly consists of 19 Arabic words and 76 letters: 76 = 19 x 4.

Item 5: The last revelation of the Quran (Sura 110) consists of 19 Arabic words. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of 19 Arabic letters.

Item 6: Finally, the total number of the Arabic letters in the Qur’an is 97,489. And 97489 = 19 x 5131.
This last item (item 6) is my own personal discovery in my attempts to prove wrong, some heretical ideas of Rashad. These are only a minute.

LET THEM SPEAK AND WILL HERE MORE LIKE EVER BEOFRE!!!!
Submitted by Salimullah

Any way, I am a new participant in this great forum and I have not be able to read most of the posts by both candidates; however I have given my tribute to both Muhsin and Lagosboy meanwhile appreciating the efforts of all our brothers on this board.

jcross22:
@PUNKINMUSTY, PLEASE TAKE IT EASY AND DO NOT SMASH ANY NON- MUSLIMS BEHIND OR BESIDE YOU B,COS OF WHAT WE ARE SAYING ON HERE TRUST ME YOUR OWN WILL BE WORST THAN MR FAROUK.JESUS AND MOHAMMAD ARE IN-COMPARABLE , IS LIKE YOU ARE COMPARING MASTER TO SLAVE IS QUITE DISSIMILAR TO EACH OTHER, MOHAMMAD IS DOOM, CHILD MOLESTER , PIRATE AND LIAR , WHY DO MUSLIMS CALL HIM A PROPHET , I THINK THE WORD PROPHET COME FROM PROPHECY OR PROPHESY , CAN ANY MUSLIM SHOW ME IN ALL ISLAMIC BOOKS THAT SHOWS ONE I MEAN A SINGLE PROPHECY , PROPHESY BY WANNBE PROPHET .

To say Muhammad was a prophet/messenger was the truth not only in our noble Qur'an but also in your distorted bible. Even the christian scientists like Buccaile and keith moore appreciate the Qur'an as the ultimate divine book of God that contains the scientific truth and authentic prophecy; meanwhile buccaile (who was a christian) discredit his bible for many scientific errors. Tell me among the Muslims a single dude that accuse His Qur'an of error and mistakes. You can call our prophet a liar and all what you can call him. Willy-nilly christians themselves confirmed his truth. To cite an example for you: George Bernard Shaw said: “I have always held this religion of Muhammad – peace be upon him – in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence, which can make itself appeal to every age, “He must be called the saviour of humanity” . Also, Going by the words of Carlyle (1841), in his book “The Heroes” while retorting to those enemies who are misinterpreting Islam and the prophet’s word, among his West’s brothers he wrote: “An exalted person who administered hundreds of millions of people for twelve centuries and who caused the establishment of civilized states in the East and in the West could never be a counterfeiter as Luther and Voltaire wrote…, only a perfect person who possesses faith and moral can give faith to others. Muhammad (upon him be peace) was born to exalt mankind. If it had not been so, no one would have followed him. Muhammad’s (peace be upon him) word are true, for a liar cannot establish even a home, let alone a religion”. If God wills you will be guided!!

My brothers, Habibi, punkinmusty, olabowale, abuzola, Muhsin and all others, you now see this laymen people noising all thier hullabaloos. And yet they can not stand to refute my post. Tell them they should stop deviating from the point. What I post is a clear biblical text; why they still fail to use a single biblical verse to refute the truth that I have raised. This entails that they were defeated although they are shy to confess. They can continue to say their nonsense words bu they could not invalidate this truth I have raised.