Thank you Sir for your input.
I do appreciate it and will update my Architect accordingly

More Blessings to your household and Happy New year

Regards

Iriruaga100:


I prefer the first plan. The ground floor and first floor is pretty much okay. There should be an exit door from the madam room to the balcony. Take the bath close to the masters bath.

Dear Comrade in the house

Season Greetings

Pls, kindly assist review attached plan and advise btw Plan A and B selection

Also, any other input on the design and floor dimensions will be appreciated

Regards

This Mata no be hard one na sotey you blocked her........... Both of you are Wrong in your actions

Firstly, you and your guys March into party and didn't bother to go say HI to announce your arrival

Leaving in Anger without saying goodbye to her in presence of the group she is to get more Evidence of who they truly her..... You be Guy man but you no Act as one oooo for this area. Real G don assume but get Fact

Lastly, she too fail to come say Hi to you guys in your Table...... Women act emotionally and you will be amaze with their actions


Real Story : Had similar scenarios few years back .... Same storyline like yours, Guy I match forward ooo alone to the Table wen is time 2 go cuz my friends was discouraging me with different punchlines. Got there, call her by her name before I started greeting the mature men and women there...... Last last na she use her mouth introduce me as "This is my friend Wale" and the family and others in the table got the message. They offer me a chair and conversation start


My Advice : You know her better than Naira land.... Don't be discouraged by what your friends and nairaland are saying because most of them No Get Joy base on their experiences with some ladies

If you are into her, resolve it and find time to go visit her at home and don't run if you hear say her parents are around or coming.... Wait and know your Position when she speaks

KiNg0G:
i blocked her number instantly... she called my friend who later explained the situation to her.
God knows she needs 2 bouncers to follow her come my house

according to her she said her dad was around, she didn't know how to introduce me to him... because she never planned him to be there.
yes they were some matured men in their table, but I don't believe thats the only reason






I understand bro....but you see I don't think it's an issue of her not wanting to show me off, like shes ashamed of me or something.

She nor fine pass me, this girl don use gragra take know all my own friends finish, same way I knew some of hers.. everywhere I am, she always wants to be there .. hence the reason she had to tell my buddie... cus she know that guy go pull me through for the birthday... because I nor dey too much like crowd....but this scenario when play yesterday na I not understand.

Weda the men when dey with me too rough! I nor know

Good morning Sir
Thank you for the honest review

All points are noted.... Yes the escalated sand are close to my site but those guys are insisting 17k. I will continue to prize it to suit me

At the moment, am not sure if it's the 10tyre tipper as the guys are on break due to the festive season.... Will confirm once they resume

bixton:


Because your building plans is still in the future I'll advice you just fill the land with the sand to your desired level. It's called land reclamation. Ensure the demolished building+road excavated sand has more of the excavated sand so that it can settle by itself over time. If you can bargain less for the sand it will be nice and hope it's a 10 tyre tipper that will be heaped to the top.

Road excavated sands are good and most economical for such purpose especially when they are closer to your site at a give-away price.

Thank you for the review

I will clear the debris as advice

Pls any idea the cost of sand filling?

megacontrol:
Sometimes things are not as complicated as we make it seem.

From the pictures it appears your land is already fenced...If so, clear the debris and sand fill your land above the drainage and gutter height. If you have to, then block off the gutter drain off into your land for now. when it is time to build, you'll incorporate drainage plans into your design.

No big deal here.

Thanks Sir for the honest review

The Dirt and Flood on the land are concerned to me to avoid challenges when it's time to build

As advice, I would do the dwarf fence to avoid further litter and I will evacuate all dirt


Is water flooding on land okay ? It flood and dried off when sunny

diordaves:


To be honest, your immediate worry is not water flooding the land but the pure water sachets, nylon bags, plastic bottles and rubbish I see on that land from your pictures.

Over time, the plastic rubbish will devalue the land more, making the land difficult and expensive to develop than flood.

So evacuate ALL plastic waste from the land first. Then either close eye and kuku fence the land to prevent the neighborhood using the land as a rubbish dump site and the fence will prevent the neighborhood water rushing and settling into the land.

If immediate fund is an issue, do a dwarf wall (fence) to prevent water getting into the land and burst a hole in the fence to let out water into the gutter.

Thanks Boss for your response

As requested, see my feedback

1. The hight is est. 3 Step block and that's the Entrance were the spoiler chair is... From the chair to the right hand side

2. It's going to be residential but no plan for kickoff now.... Still gathering capital to begin the process

bixton:



Good Morning.....
Just a couple of questions though out of curiosity

1) What's the level(height) of your land to the existing road where those spoilers chairs are kept? I'm also assuming that may not be the area where the main entrance is?
2) What are your plans to build(type of build) on the land(present or still in the future)?

Thank you Sir for the honest advice

Pls how do I control the rain water and gutter water that flows to land whenever it rain and whenever the drainage overflow because I open a hole for the rain water to flow out but the gutter always return water through that hole to the land anytime it overflow

How do I go about it?

diordaves:


Economically, you sand fill AFTER you have put up a building foundation on the site at the very least. You use the height of the foundation as a reference point as to how high you should sand fill.

To sand fill an empty land, you should be prepared to follow up by planting trees, flowers and carpet grass or rain (erosion) will wash the sandfill away over time which may turn out to be a wasted effort.

Good House and Season Greetings

Happy New Year and wishing you all the best of 2021


Pls I want to fill a Land and would need some clarification or advice as listed below

1. Do I need to clear the land of the small plant and dirty on it before filling ?

2. What type of filling is best and economical

3. How much is a truck of filling and what size?
Someone offer 17k per tipper and the filling is from demolish house mixed with Road digged sand because they demolish some house for road expansion

Note: Reason for the filling is to avoid the land been water logged. Anytime it rain, the rain water and water from Drainage always sit on it

Attached is the land for your attention


Kindly advise what step to take

Thanks all

Glad to see this was resolved

Good job to everyone involved in resolving it

Together We Can Do More..... Let stick together

Stay Safe and Remain Blessed

Ibk2020:
Oga rotecch77 called me this morning, and we make a conference call with Dennis3D.

I believe both party is at fault here, oga Dennis refund the remaining 25k immediately after the call.

Thanks to Rotecch77 for your time sir

Thanks Boss for the recommendation

@SurveyorGeo is surely a good man and I love his rapport

Working together soonest

Thanks Once again

Regards

One4me:


Go offline with him, l am sure he is a good man.
You dont have to state the price here (we also need to protect good men from shylock associations) but if you have a good deal, just call it a good deal.
That 400K is 'SARS Price' o, not for kobokobo people like us..

Good Evening Honorable EgunMogaji

We look forward to the plan Sir

Thank you

EgunMogaji2:


I second the idea and I’m actually working on a concept that will satisfy Nigerians unique situation.

The Elder's can get it formalised as I believe there are credible Elder's in the house people can vouch for with easy Traceability

#MyView

One4me:


This issue of ESCROW keeps coming up, time after time!
I agree with it but things have to be more formalised, for it to be bullet-proof.

Is it possible to have an Escrow in this group to avoid too much tense of Disappointment from Clients, Contractors and Vendors ?

The Elder's in the house, Pls advice

One4me:
I have been reading a few comments regarding Architectural drawings, since l asked an aggrieved member here to layout his complaints, about another member here and it is true that a lot of people are joining the bandwagon, without understanding the issues or having a shallow understanding of it or at worst, trying to be politically correct, which l dont do.

Firstly, l wanted Dennis 3D to have the opportunity to respond to the allegations, before asking Elders in the house to weigh-in but since the person involved, ibk202 said "I have moved-on", l decided there is no need to cry more than the bereaved, so l wont broach that issue anymore, let everyone draw their conclusions but l want to speak in the GENERAL SENSE, my opinion.

Let us look at the following scenarios, when a Client wants to build -
You contact an Architect for a Drawing:
a) Should the Architect ask you to bring money FIRST before he can do the drawing of what you want or does he does the drawing of what you want, show you and then you pay him
b) does he show you a sketch first and when you are not happy with the sketch, you ask for modifications , which when done, you pay him or does he insists on payment at this stage
c) Should he complete the drawing to your satisfaction and thereafter, ask for payment afterwards.

Each of the above scenario is fraught with potential pitfalls, if any of the two parties is greedy or a conman. So, let us take them one by one and we shall see why l said people are just joining the bandwagon.

PITFALLS
In scene (a):
If you pay the Archy FIRST and he does a shoddy job and you insist he should rework it but he either refuse or fails to do what you desire.
At this point, he can call your bluff and refuse to refund your money back, you are at his mercy!
Take note, Client has gained NOTHING for the effort of the Archy since what he asked for, is a Drawing that is fit for building and he did not get that, so he has to look for another Archy to do the job. So, the Client has lost all or some of his money!
How many of this kind of situation should a Client go through, before getting a drawing that is fit for purpose?
So, we can understand that person who said 'I will not pay UNLESS you give me a drawing that is fit for my purpose'.
What if the Archy is one that has the habit of collecting money from Clients and not taking time to do a good job that is usable or he is just not good at his job but keeps making money here and there (based on EFFORT), by taking advance payment that he refuses to refund when his job is not acceptable?
That is a Conman.

On the other hand, what about Clients that act as if they dont like the job that the Archy has sweated over and then refuse to pay for it, using one excuse or the other, even after all amendments have been satisfactorily done? The Client then makes away with such job and the Archy loses for all his effort? That is a Conman.

(b) In this option, the Archy FIRST does a SKETCH (no dimensions, just a layout or rough sketch) of the Plan for the Client to see and make amendments. Since it is nearly impossible to make a drawing the first time and not have the Client request for amendments because this is just like an Art work, 'two different eyes will always see it differently', the Client as a rule, will always have amendments to make.
At this point, the Archy can request for a 'commitment-payment' which covers his effort so far. Does the Client pay at this stage or insist that the amendments should be done to his satisfaction, before committing money? What if the Archy refuses to do any amendments at this point, except he is paid?
As, we saw in scenario (a) above, either of the party can be untruthful or unfaithful at each of this stages.
If a drawing is not complete, it is still not complete and not usable, so Client has to spend another round of money with another Archy.
For the Client, if the Archy refuses to do the modifications at this stage, he is still stuck with an UN-USABLE Drawing and as such, any money committed so far, is a loss to the Client, irrespective of the effort or best intention of the Archy. ConMan.

But what if the Archy does the modification and the Client disappears with his job, while still insisting that he is not satisfied with the job?
But l must point out that at this stage, since it is the Client that is determining what modifications he wants, it is very unlikely that if and when those modifications are done, the Client will disappear and refuse t o pay, because he has got a satisfactory job. In most cases, disagreements occur when Archy is not willing to accommodate the amendments of the Client.
But you never can tell if Client is a Conman

(c) Now, what if the Archy has taken his time to complete the job to the satisfaction of the Client, with dimensions and all and the Client still tries to fi[b][/b]nd a reason not to pay the Archy? this is not impossible because there are ConMen out there! What can the Archy do to ensure he gets paid?
This scenario is the exact opposite, or the other extreme of the stick, to what we had in scenario one (where a rogue Archy tries to dupe Clients by collecting advance payment and not doing the job to the satisfaction of the Client, while still not returning the initial payment), but here, it is the Client that collected a full and complete job from the Archy and is trying to use an unreasonable excuse to not pay the full money or the balance?

As we can see in all three cases, each party is capable of being unfaithful, along the line.
So, how do we strike a balance that protects the Client from extortion and pays the Archy his due, for his effort?
Nobody will like to pay for something that is not useful to them and a drawing that a Client cant use, is not useful to him, so he should not be paying for it, notwithstanding whatever EFFORT the Archy puts into it, Client is not paying for 'effort' but paying for a useful drawing. If you cant do the job properly, then dont expect to be paid for "effort". You are not engaged for "effort".

Archy in this situation must be patient and listen to the customer and try to fulfill their requirements, by amending the drawing to their satisfaction but with a written commitment from the Client to pay him as agreed.
Dont forget, what the Archy wants is PAYMENT for his drawing and what the Client wants is a USABLE DRAWING THAT MEETS HIS NEEDS.
I am sure a Client can be prosecuted, if he refuses to pay for a completed job, based on the amendments you asked the Archy to make and which he has made. (Proof of their communication will prove that the amendments have been made and met).

Clients too must also understand that Archys and other service Providers, are family men with financial need and everyone deserves a reward for their trade. If he does your job, you have to pay for it otherwise, he can seek redress from the law and dont forget, their is a bigger Judge watching both of you and God help you if that your house does not crumble on your head one day, for eating somebody's sweat.
This idea that you can 'brain' someone into getting a professional job for free (except where it is their choice to provide it for free, as goodwill) is completely unacceptable.

Both Client and Archy can also agree on staged payment but it has to be such that dissuades the Archy from abandoning job just because he thinks he has got some money that covers his "effort". In most jobs, nobody pays for effort.
Making a small Advance/commitment fee is good, in my own opinion, once you get an initial sketch (say 10%) but just like any service provider, once the initial payment is high enough, complacency will set-in and no ones gets interested in doing the job where the remaining payment is not worth it anymore. So, l dont encourage a large down-payment.

The Julius Berger example someone used up there is totally irrelevant. JB is a known and established world Class institution, their jobs are usually first evaluated by Consultants who work for the Client, whose duty is to set and ensure specifications are met, before JB even makes a bid and we have never heard that JB collected money from a Client and did a shoddy job or disappears.

And no one pays for "bids", what happens is that you are required to pay a 'refundable amount' when bidding for a job and this is given back (to JB), if they dont get the job but JB does all the groundwork at its own cost.
Imagine if every Company that puts-in a lot of Effort (Transport, drawings, Writings, models, etc) in bidding for a job and they dont get it, is now asking the person giving out the job, to refund them back their initial costs of putting in the bid or to 'pay them for their effort'?
Where does that happen? It does not work that way at all, not anywhere in th world.
Archys in other Climates, once they get a commission to do a job, they will do everything within their professional knowledge, to ensure the Customer is satisfied, and they get Paid at the end.
You should not expect to be Paid for a job not COMPLETELY DONE, just because you put in some EFFORT.
Insulting a Client is also enough reason to terminate any agreement, you just have to learn to be Professional and be Courteous.
when it comes to verbal back-and-forth, remember what they say: Customer is King and no one insults the King without getting a bloody nose.

Ofcourse, the Client can out of his own decision/compassion, pay the Archy a small amount for "effort", where they cannot reach an agreement on the darwing but that is at his discretion and l encourage everyone to do so, for future goodwill.
What l think Professionals should always try to do is SATISFY the Customer's requirements and l am sure a lot of Archys do that and they dont have any complaint about not being paid.
Insulting or belittling the Customer is a just a red Flag for any Professional, even if you are think you are the best in the world. Human relationship is the greatest resource any Service provider can have, that is why companies spend heavily on PR and Customer Service.
Once your name is Tarnished, your Product is Tarnished.
Maybe some Service Provider gets too rich and too big for their Clients and think they cant take shit from Clients, if that is the case, then they should know that younger and more eager Providers are springing up daily. But if you are that 'Client from hell', you need to change your ways before you hurt and destroy yourself.
I have never heard any Client come here to complain that the likes of Spyder, Aventures, Gbadexy, Abdulwastesx, Kolashange and many more, have insulted him or her, why is that? Do they pick their own Clients from Jupiter or can it be that they go all out to satisfy their Clients?
Food for thought.

Thank you Sir..... Well received

One4me:


Click on the person's username to open their Profile.
You will see where it says "Send Private Message" (PM/DM).
Click and message the person,
It goes to the Email they used in registering for NLand.
End.

Pls how do someone DM on Nairaland?

donbrowser:

DM, I will get you a great guy with affordable rate. He did mine and the price is cool

Thanks Boss for intervene in my matter

The quote shock me but I will chat him offline and hope for the best

Regards

One4me:




SurveyorGeo! SurveyorGeo!! SurveyorGeo!!! how many times be dat?
You know as we dey, dont disappoint.
I know that you have to keep up the appearance of that official price.
Discuss offline, the LAW allows you to negotiate your own profit with yoru customers, if you chose a 'Rapid Turnover' Business Model, instead of a 'Huge Profit with Low Turnover' business model.

Thank you as usual.

Wawu.... The estimated amount vibrate me.

Does survey cost that much ?

SurveyorGeo:


it is +/- 400k, but I can do it for you at a discounted rate, call or chat me on 08069018449

Thank you Boss.... I appreciate your swift feedback.
I will follow up with him and revert with updates

Once again... Thank you Sir

One4me:


@SurveyorGeo:

Can you give this memebr a GOOD DEAL?
I dont want all those official 'we charge 80% because that is what our ssociation said we should charge" o!
Association does not feed anyone, they only collect membership fee!

i trust you not to let this house down, when it comes to things like that, let us leave 80% for those people on the other side.

@Access14: negotiate with SurveyorGeo, if he doesnot give yo a good deal, let us know so we can include his matter in the #EndSARS Protest or we tell the Public that he is hiding Palliatives inside his house!
He is a resonable Surveyor.

@Hajj and other Honorable in the house

Pls, can you advise the cost of Land Survey as I want told to get a Survey plan to secure my land since CofO is out of it for now

My area is Lagos, Ketu

Kindly advise

Regards

Pls add 08062987785

It's Not a sickness..... Just your body system having issues to adjust to the environment

I have same experience anytime, Anyday, anywhere I enter public transport

My Solution is to seat the Front seat btw driver and you and 1 more passenger... Anytime am in the front, Problem solved for me

I would advise to always target the Front seat with Driver.......Seating beside window in any position doesn't work unless seating with driver alone

Let me know your observation seating with driver

bigcee:

Pay #50k for sure 1.50 odd.

Original Suffer head..I go pity u and pay #00K

Abeg send ur acct details

Hi

Pls, any odds for weekend games ?

Thaks

Pls, add 08062987785

Thanks

Hi Ade,

Thanks for the headsup

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Even call blocker cant help as the call still come through when my network signal is poor

Pls, anyone with any step on how to stop annoying Call Advert ?

Thanks

Hi Ade,

Thanks for the headsup

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Even call blocker cant help as the call still come through when my network signal is poor

Pls, anyone with any step on how to stop annoying Call Advert ?

Thanks

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I am looking for a 3bedroom flat within Agric,Ogolonto and Ajegunle Asap

My budget is 250k

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Cheers