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Henry120:
The chart clearly shows the JF-17 and the Gripen been equal in overall ratings. While the JF-17 block 1 has 7 hardpoints, the Gripen has 8.

The JF-17 has 2times the combat radius of the Gripen.

The JF-17 also has a higher fuel capacity over the Gripen.

The JF-17 also has a better ferry range, service ceiling and endurance.

The JF-17 can also carry nuclear weapons.

The block II which is superior to the Gripen comes with better avionics, missile capablitiees, air-air refuelling and more.

But the problem is that, you're only buying 12

DieVluit:
South Africa still holding Nigeria’s seized $15 million arms money.



Contrary to widespread reports in the Nigeria media (PREMIUM TIMES not included) the South African government has not returned the $15 million seized from arms dealers purportedly buying arms for the Nigerian military.

PREMIUM TIMES can authoritatively report that the money remains frozen in South Africa and has not been returned to the Nigerian government.

In October, several media articles quoting the South African High Commissioner to Nigeria, Lulu Mnguni, reported that the money seized in connection with two dubious arms deal had been released to the Nigerian government.

However, Mr. Mnguni has told PREMIUM TIMES that the reports are false. Apart from the High Commissioner, the spokesperson of the South African National Prosecuting Authority, NPA, Nathi Mncube, and a South African source that is knowledgeable about the matter but requested not to be named, told PREMIUM TIMES in separate correspondences that the money was yet to be released to the Nigeria government.

Rather than return the money, there is possibility that the money may never be returned to the Nigerian government again.

Responding to PREMIUM TIMES enquiry about the extent of the investigation into the seized arms money, Mr. Mncube, who declined to give specific information because the NPA does not respond to matters under investigation, however, said the money may be forfeited to the South African government.

“In terms of our law, proceeds of crime are forfeited to the state,” he said.

On his part, Mr. Mnguni vehemently denied the reports credited to him that the matter has been resolved diplomatically and the money returned to the Nigerian government.

He said it was not procedural for the South African government to return frozen money in the manner suggested in the reports quoting him.

“We don’t refund money that way,” he said during a telephone conversation. “I said the matter would be resolved within the legal and legitimate means. That was what I said. I did not say the money has been refunded. And I did not follow up since then on whether the money has been refunded or not. It has to be done through the legal and legitimate means.”

PREMIUM TIMES investigation also revealed that instead of providing document that validated its claim that the deals were legal, the Nigerian government has been vigorously pursuing a diplomatic resolution of the matter.

Hard as it is trying, it appears the Nigerian government is merely chasing the wind, as the matter is no longer in the hands of diplomats and politicians.

Unfazed by subtle threat of the National Security Adviser, Sambo Dasuki, to come hard of South African business interests such as MTN and DSTV in Nigeria, NPA obtained court orders freezing the money.

Now, Nigeria has to go through the full hog of court processes to secure its release – something the government, which claimed ownership of the money, appears incapable of doing following the backdoor manner the deals were reached.

“The money was frozen by two court orders and the court requires the documentations before the money is released,” Mr. Mncube said. “The money is still here and is not going anywhere. We would not release it if we don’t have a surety where the money is going. It is a court process.”

http://nigeriana.org/blog/105206.html

Woolies anyone?

panafrican:
Delete this freaking thread because it is set up to spy on Africa's military forces.
We do not need to discuss African military strength on the net.

lol... spying? we're discussing what is already in the public domain - that's public knowledge.

mzilakazi:
Everything is fabrication to you, perhaps your existence is also by fabrication and not by concrete biological process.

That guy is a slowpoke... I have found it time wasting entertaining whatever he says.

Henry120:
The SANDF came into existence in 1994. The white minority Apartheid army is not the South-African national army.

You're dumb...

It's the same HQ, weaponry, same doctrine.

You're seriously out of things to say.

agaugust:
Mbombe is not important, it has ONLY ONE SINGLE potential small buyer . Lol
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Mbombe is Revolutional. Its the first MRAP without the traditional V-hull.. it's one of the few RPG-7 resistance IFVs on earth.

agaugust:
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Thanks for confirming what I always said that South African army is a very weak dry land only army built ONLY for homeland defense with ZERO force projection outside homeland and thus inferior to the all terrain equipped Nigerian army.

You proved me right, you a South African soldier, so God bless you sir !

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agaugust:
The South African Hawk Jet is older than Mandela....

In your not-so-bright head, there were jets before Mandela.

DieVluit:
Ngihleka izibunu zam zaphuma zahlephuka

LMAO!

The Nigerian F-7 is older than my mother...

agaugust:
No jet fighter in South African air force can discharge missiles.

If Gripens and Hawks were toys then that would be taken to consideration.

The Nigerian Air Force lost 3 aircrafts in one month

EVarn:
havent we trashed this already.i've lectured you so many times that our F7 jets can discharge a barrage of missiles enough to pulverize south african into a cornflakes republic.

You're clearly trolling.

EVarn:
NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT TO BUY COOKING STOVES WORTH N9.2bn ! ! ! !
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the nigerian government has confirmed the plan to purchase cooking stoves worth over N9.2 billion for nigerian women in support of the "clean cooking programme".
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http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-to-buy-cooking-stoves-with-n9-2bn/
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WTF

EVarn:
mumu!.its an ADVANCED training aircraft,that also doubles as a light attack jet.the dornier jet supports:
*AIM-9 sidewinder air-to-air missiles
*Matra Magic II{series} air-to-air missiles
*AGM-65 Maverick air-to-ground missile etc
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pray tell me,how is that an ordinary trainer jet?.clown.

It still doesn't change the fact that Its a trainer.

EVarn:
F7-NI

That's a MiG 21 reincarnated... we shot those in Angola like target practice.

EVarn:
dornier alpha

That is a trainer jet.

EVarn:
how will the slightly devalued naira cause the GDP to fall?,it would only cause a little rise in inflation rate,and even that can be prevented by tightening fiscal policies

Your lack of knowledge in economic affairs speaks volumes.

Can someone else please explain to this man how currency devaluation affects the exchange rate with the dollar therefore affecting GDP figures which are counted in dollars.

AugustineAgain:
No sir, I am mixed blood Yoruba-Hausa from a mixed Christian-Muslim family.

Oga Oshiomole send you to me? I won't mind a gift of an 18 year old Bini girl from Comrade Governor Oshio Baba....eh, em, I mean you can also reduce the girl age to 16 years, no law go catch me...

Dream on Agububu... you're a single 40 year old virgin... you never have time to talk to girls.

Your life is spent fabricating internet lies.

AugustineAgain:
LOL, Nigerian BMP-2 has 33mm armour, even a 23mm cannon CANNOT penetrate it.

By the way, what is the armour thickness of SANDF Ratel, Rooikat, and Badger in millimeters ?

Cuban girls were using 12.7mm guns to eat up your Ratels while your men were screaming for help, getting killed by teenage Cuban girls in Angola war
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Do you mastur.bate on Cuban girls, you can't stop talking about them.

DieVluit:
DEVALUED is the naira.

That's all.


http://m.bbc.com/news/business-30196496

With it comes the fall of the over inflated GDP

and you guys enjoy our company in this forum..... this thread would have died a long time ago if It wasn't for the life we bring to it....

AugustineAgain:
This Nairaland forum is a proof of Nigerians brain superiority over the dumbo South Africans
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We joined Nairaland to bring light to this ignorant ridden forum.

We're knowledge missionaries to Nigerians.

AugustineAgain:
Nigeria has very big solid minerals deposits, Limestone from Ewekoro is still being mined today by WAPCO-Lafarge cement, it's been on before my father was born. Benue cement, Ashaka cement, Dangote cement, that have their own Limestone mines in other far away parts of Nigeria.

Nigeria also has oil sand Bitumen deposits that is not counted with oil and not controlled by OPEC production quota, our Bitumen in Ilaje Ondo is among the largest in the world and how many solid minerals do you want to count in Nigeria? Government gets royalties everyday and our VAT revenue is huge with the biggest economy in Africa.

Giant in population, Giant in dollars, Giant in GDP, Giant in economic growth rate, Giant in intelligence, Giant in international influence, Giant in arts and science, Giant spiritually and physically....that is Nigeria for you !
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Giant in what...

A single South African power station powers the whole on Nigeria

AugustineAgain:
Newspaper from my local region reveals my state and city, am not going to reveal that on a public internet forum, because some curious Soweto motherfvcker will google list of PMCs in that city and find out the exact name of my company and all the office address plus phone numbers, and then my cover is blown off....personal ID data revealed...and what da fvck...!
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You're day dreaming...

AugustineAgain:
Manufacturer specifications 100% FACT !!

http://www.atraircraft.com/datas/download_center/38/atr_42_surveyor_2004_38.pdf

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF
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- First we had an air force when the only flying thing in Nigeria was a juju man.

- Second you have been using the Mig 21 for almost half a century when we had already purchased the Gripen.

- Currently we have 4th generation fighters, you don't.


SAAF leads the pack

AugustineAgain:
Dangote is not in South Africa for politics, he does not need a photo poster or billboard.

Ask your countrymen who are paying billions of Rands inot Dangote industries bank account, begging the Nigerian mogul for the kind of pie your country cannot offer them.

They even over paid Dangote by an extra one billion Rand, we have swallowed your money forever, and we DON'T do refunds
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hahaha

Dangothe is zero in the South African business landscape, he's an amateur in Africa's most advanced economy.

RIP to the deceased, its sad to know how their lives would have been saved if they had a proper army.

mzilakazi:
That's what you are making proved by world bank and many sources. What you make from oil has to be shared by all stake holders which the government is also part of the stake holder.

Did he just call you sthandwa sami?

Get away from that thing called EVarn, its obsessed with you.

lezz:
I wouldn't wish for anything less for mtn. we can always rail SA in whenever they go outta line while mtn and few other are doing well.





by the way mtn is SA based not SA owned.

also, we just bleeped you in the list of top 50 richest in Africa.

20 rich people while 170 Million Nigerians lack basic necessities.

You're cheering the rich while you starve