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tdayof:
Actually, a mission can always turn bad even when keeping a low profile presence. A good example is that where US lost over 30 men including 15 seals.

True that... However there's ways to minimize that. Here's a few ways of staying low profile

- Intergrate with the local friendly force
- Use the vehicles they use (Toyota technicals and on)
- Wear what they wear (even if it's rag tag uniform and headgear) and conceal the special ops gizmos
- Never use exclusive Uncle Sam rifles, the enemy spotters will definitely know it's you at the distance
- Use makeup to have a similar skintone with the locals (you don't want to look like a Caucasian in the Sahel) ** you won't believe how actually painting yourself works, South African Special Forces entered Maputo Mozambique painted black in the back of an open truck and no one noticed a thing**
- Your patrol vehicles should be spaced when patrolling, not closer than a kilometre per patrol. This discourages ambushes.
- Always bring with you the big guns like RPGs and multiple grenade launchers, they make a devastating impact on the enemy

newafricaken254:
it seems the american green berets thought they were on a vacation in Niger (Africa )from black hawk down incident they have never learned

link http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/niger-ambush-convoy-separated/index.html?sr=fbCNN102717niger-ambush-convoy-separated0221PMVODtop

They were very careless, honestly. If you do low convoy patrols you better be very armed, guys like the SAPS Kevoet had 15 machine guns on a single vehicle (1 .50 Browning and 7 LMGS on each side fired from inside the vehicle) and the SASFB has 2 mounted machine guns and 1 hand held at the back on the little Hornet vehicle. If a patrol of 3 SF vehicles came under fire then be guaranteed that 9 machine guns and multiple grenade launchers and RPGs will will fired from those little vehicles.

Somehow, it seems like the Americans don't learn that you never bring little guns to an African conflict..... In the words of Patches, more dakka is required.

jakeporeshenko:
How do you get ambushed while “keeping a low profile”?
They walked right into a trap.

Bad intelligence
Underestimated their enemy

This guy always defending the U.S

Did you read his statement? He's saying they should have kept low profile like they were taught to. They did this in Afghanistan even before the invasion.

GreenandGold:
I see the South African flag on the background. Are we contributing or buying? Do you have an idea?

2 minutes on Google, there's only 1 that belongs to a private company that make car components.

frumentius:
Ze Germans are here! Seen at Cape Town International Airport, 25 October 2017.


Pics: courtesy of http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2507&start=975#p117008

Good God, why did we cancel that order... Look at that thing.

jakeporeshenko:
Yes that bloody thing looks heavy. Looks like it need a damn lowbed to carry it!

Normally it takes 2 operators to carry the rifle into position, it breaks in half (designed that way). He's probably doing it for the PR pose.

jakeporeshenko:
The entire NATO got nailed and still getting nailed by the Taliban I think we can all agree that country is invasion proof, It’s a geographical thing.

NATO did well in Afghanistan until the US decided to invade Iraq and gave back a huge part of Afghanistan to the incompetent Afghan troops who handed it back to the Taliban (and Islamist buddies)... Talk about the Taliban, I'm looking at 2 guys right now in downtown that you'll bet just landed from Afghanistan with the head gear and all. Hope they have no exploding issues

Covert1:
It's marketing strategy -- my own is better than yours. Arguably in fighter jet engines has the west comparative advantage. In relative spectrum of warfare it's a graveyard of empires to contend with the Russian Bear.

Russian military training and combat operations is insane plus the Russian is a ferocious die-hard nigh tireless being. Always has been.

That got nailed by the Mujahideen

Russia is a regional power with weapons of mass destruction. Nothing fancy.

frumentius:
A good mate from their contingent has a tumblr blog, if you're interested:
http://charlieenelcongo-blog.tumblr.com/

The 2 tours, I was the unofficial liaison with the south Americans because after English, Portugues is my second language (my mother) and similar enough to their Spanish - the Uruguayans host the best and most frequent festivities, the best provisioned Officer's Mess and the most comely female component .

Talk about Portuguese, there was a time where I was unofficially taking Portuguese classes at high school. Why did I bother? Well, we had some African/Portuguese (mixed) kids from the elite Mozambican ruling class at the institution. God, they had the finest girls I've ever seen, they killed our black and white girls dead in the beauty department.... So I wasn't gonna be left out on the action, if you scored one of those girls you immediately got level 7 in the swag department and I figured learning Portuguese was gonna make me very competitive.


Can't tell you how it ended

frumentius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Denciie5oA

Is that Thor shooting guns?

Sizzorkay:
Google "Global fire power" and read up on there, and also compare countries and see rankings for most countries.
Just don't ask that here, that will start E-War

Of course, you shouldn't take Global Fire Power serious. They rank DRC above Tanzania, Zambia obove Uganda, Ethiopia above South Africa.

frumentius:
Wait till their Kudu Gas Fields come on stream and they'll match their Botswana rivals by acquiring Gripen, and overtake us by including Meteor BVR missiles and air-to-air refueling .

I say Namibia put up plenty of solar panels in the desert then mine Bitcoins. That's their money maker right there.

So both Namibia and Botswana will use the Gripen to patrol swaps while we use ours to monitor our rhinos. Southern Africa has military swag

Algerian1:
its easy , not a hack , just upload 3 pics , sent the post , then clic on modify with the right mouse button , and open several tabs, and in each window add a different pic as pic 4 and submit on each window . you will get all the pics

Thanks.. Nice to know. Anyways, I never post more than one picture. I'm one of those guys.

frumentius:
Yep. At work I can log on to the US Army War College and read them. Hardly the nefarious endeavour that Putin the Thug's propaganda arm, Russia Today is making it out to be.
Dare I say, anyone at the SA Military Academy can and do produce simulated plans for SANDF invasions of various African countries.
It's nothing more than an interesting intellectual exercise which all professional militaries should do.

Don't tell me there's non? We don't have such plans for worst case scenarios?

frumentius:
Oy mate, you just posted 6 pics. I thought they'd found and fixed your hack ?

Look at me, I ran a forum in 2009 BUT can't figure out how you guys do that.. Hehe

Henry240:
It is obvious from his previous posts that he is young and new to all these military stuff.

He didn't mean to offend Namibia either.

If jakeporeshenko had posted this as a NAF fighter then a "new and young" South African made such a comment as he did, would you have defended him?

krattoss:
how bout this

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/236985-nigeria-receives-five-fighter-jets-pakistan.html

Remind me not to click on such links next time, they have a tendency of flooding my news feeds the following day, you'd swear I woke up in Lagos

krattoss:
common Namibia. .this aint 1950

The Namibian Air Force is relatively new, didn't exist until post independence. For a population of about 2 million people without oil money they're punching above their wight.

frumentius:
The RSA Aviation Squadron in the DRC on its own initiative raised funds in SA, bought land and built an orphanage for war orphans in Bushara, Goma, DRC.
Chairs, desks, cupboards and bed-frames were made from old ammunition boxes .

That's very sweet

Is that a toy Rooivalk on the background?

newafricaken254:
i wonder if he will deploy his SU-30 or MI-24/35'S

I don't think he would, that's very conveniental for insurgents.

Apparently SpaceX is launching a secret satellite codename "Zuma" for an un specificied government.

It obviously got me suspicious


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/spacex-planning-mysterious-launch-codenamed-zuma-november-government-customer-1643578aaa

newafricaken254:
somalia president was in somalia to ask museveni for support,in the upcoming new offesive against alshabaab. this are about to heat up in this region

omalia President Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo met his Ugandan counterpart Yoweri Museveni in Entebbe Uganda on Sunday.

The two heads of states discussed on security matters arising after the October 14 twin truck bombing in Mogadishu that killed 400 plus people.

Uganda which is a contributing member in the 22000 strong African Union peace keeping force Amisom has pledged to back up a planned offensive on Alshabaab in retaliation to the deadliest single attack in Somalia history.

“Had fruitful talks with H.E @KagutaMuseveni on security cooperation.

Promised full support as we embark on new offensive against Alshabab” Farmaajo tweeted late Sunday.

Farmaajo is also expected to fly to Djibouti and Ethiopia to seek military backup ahead of the offensive . link http://radiodalsan.com/en/uganda-to-back-somalia-in-new-offensive-on-alshabaab/

M7 likes fighting so no asking needed, he's always in.

patches689:
On an unrelated note?

Remember these assholes? Iraq's super operational operators who operated operationally in operational operations.

And got whooped by some illiterate ISL goon with a room temperature IQ.

Just goes to show: Gucci Kit =/= Gucci Moves

Foreign doctrine is irrelevant in a local conflict. These guys got US specialized training to fight people who are not fighting by any rule.

GreenandGold:
The upcoming Milkor 4x4.

Production starting April 2018.

Same question as Henry has, don't think it's a good idea.... But well..

GreenandGold:
You think it's a South African military thing? When I used to post on Skyscrapercity I would be in trouble with the local security personnel for taking pictures of their shopping centres. I remember two dramatic instances where a guard with an R5 aggressively approached me for taking pictures of a garden outside a casino, the other instance I was taken to administration for "shooting without permission" and they said I was gonna pay a fine of up to R20 000, WTF? Luckily I got away by saying it was for the soccer world cup and tourists wanted to see pictures of the host city.

You'll think South Africa is a progressive country, wait until you hear some of the silly laws.

Yet they didn't punch you on the face for the Black Hawk pics. I say they should have placed you on the wheelchair for not sharing them

andrewza:
more than paint for that frigate.

Then you don't tell us what's happening, this guy. ... What's up with the secrecy, we will bail you out, come on.

ssaengine:
SA Navy seems to be on a maintenance (or something) drive. Pics by Allan Roy, saairforce.co.za

The frigates are always going through some kind of maintainance but that's the first time I see such a setup. They're probably getting a paintwork.

What's happening Andrew?

andrewza:
Maybe but the fact is the mi17 is the cheaper option and we could get a lot more of them

Since when do we get the cheapest option? We go for the best in the category we want.

andrewza:
RPG 7

MLRS

AK style rifle

1.45mm anti material rifel

ZSU 23 anti air guns

Extra extra

These things literally fell off a Soviet truck in the Angolan bush. We didn't buy them.

But you don't seem to get it, it's beyond what works and not. It's now about heritage, from the days of the Puma, then Super Puma and now Oryx. People relate to these things, it's the reason why parents take kids to the military demonstrations because there's a story to tell and it's a reason why we're here on this site. There must be continuity, it keeps the the industry flooded with fresh blood who grew an interest in this field after seeing an Orxy dramatically dropping Parabats in a show and a father cheering "this is how we did it".


The EC725 is the next logical evolution of the Oryx. The MK3 should be born from this platform.

GreenandGold:
Is Milkor teasing something here?

Maybe, or its just a random render.

andrewza:
This gem I got from a 3rd party it a extract from SA mercy in Angola after 1990s.







So yeah mi17 is not a bad idea going Russian. Only need to modify the cockpit and install our EW and radios. All so as said denel does maintains on Russian choppers

Do you know how un-SANDF Russian equipment is? We have a standard to keep, myself, Patches and Frumentius don't want it and we somehow sit on the decision making table of the SANDF Nairaland Department

giles14:
well the winner should be Mi38 which you can den tweak to your satisfaction.

I forgot the EC725 Super Puma with the same flight ceiling as the Mi-38.

The thing about it is that it's the closest thing to the Oryx in terms of engineering layout BUT the costs are typically European.