₦airaland Forum

femisplash:
It is contextual, tongues and Languages can be used interchangeably. Tinubu was 100% correct on this. People from the tower of Babel spoke in tongues/ Languages after God had sent confusion amongst them. That's the diversity Tinubu was making his reference. Our old national anthem had it in its lyrics that " though tongues and tribes may differ, in brotherhood we stand. The tongue as used is same as Languages.
I honestly can't believe that People who are allegedly educated and largely Christians are trying so hard to find an error where none exist.

There's nothing like contextual here. There are dictions that are specific to use. If you learnt English well you know such dictions like idiomatic expressions and figure of speech. If you are a Christian it pains me to say you don't understand the structure of scriptures. The Bible cannot be understood or interpreted by logic. If a Christian quotes the Quran off diction, they won't understand contextual. Meanwhile, we inherited speaking tongues; we didn't all. There's a difference between language which we learn and tongues that is spirit given. Does Tinubu speak in tongues? Does Shetima? So who are the we? BTW you cannot in any respect join the disruption of language at the tower of babel with the baptism of the holy ghost, purpose wise, event, cause etc are East to west.


BTW I didn't take Tinubu seriously when I heard yesterday or when, he is just trying to do damage control, traveling with his vice to see Jonathan and Bishop kukah, nonsense but for you to be trampling on the integrity of the word of God cos you want to support an ignorant man who goofed, I couldn't stand it. Thank

Alajiki:
What exactly is off-point in what he said. He talked about Nigeria's diversity likening it to Tower of Babel in the Bible (where speaking in tongues actually started from). Because many of you guys are so daft you're only used to elementary English would not let you decipher the message he's passing across.

Why una no get sense like this. Explain how the scattering of tongues is similar to speaking in tongues. Fission and fusion are different.

Owopariola001:
Was he wrong?

Is there any other historical book with a history that has an earlier timeline of speaking in different tongues other than the Bible?

And by the way, his statement is about the story of "The Tower of Babel."

I wonder how y'all claimed to be "Christians" but ignorance, hatred, and bias made you forget your Book of Genesis 11:1–9

It is also a shame that many people don't even know that "Tongue" can be used synonymously as "Language."

If you can't use your brain, the joke is on you.

No wonder Dino said you can't support or defend Tinubu without sounding stupid. You actually sound very stupid right now. You need to be taught right, whether you are a Christian or a Muslim. But if you are a Christian I'll be more disappointed and wonder who pastor you. Smh

plaindealer:
Not a fan of Reno, but I see a lot of sense here.

Peter Obi and his followers are always dodging Mondays. Why? Una dey fear your own people?

The Challenge is that when they do on Monday and IPOB is silent, na una go still say obidient is IPOB.

johnmartus:
Right now I'm at work.please don't joke with my dream if I see you that you die in my dream bro I'm fear something must happen oo.

Lolx hahahahahaha, add liar to your name. Your dream is a nightmare not God inspired

TheNiceGuy:
Then your idiocy needs to be cured by becoming BATIfied

Lolx hahahahahaha blind BATS everywhere, you better go and read about BATS before you say someone needs curing. Unfortunately na so you use baba go slow replace clueless Jonathan. The savior Buhari has done great things that PDP couldn't do for 16 years, he did it in 4 and more, where Nigeria had never gone before he took her beyond there

Smalloga:
..

Please, Is this an anime?

BATified2023:
what do u have to say about this?

Woow just woow, I wish I know you personally so I can know how to address you, I want to believe you are Yoruba but unfortunately your assertions are too immature and unwise. How has the choice of footballer for the nation especially when the coach is even a foreigner relate to the leadership of a country? It's like saying because more Christians go to school than Muslims we want to Christianize education. Even with the indifference and hatred of education by the North, the minister of education is a northerner. Hmmm no wonder ASUU is still on strike. Meanwhile I am a pure breed Yoruba boy from a long line of Yoruba bloodline but living in the North. I know this first hand.

Think!!! With your brain

Daddyyin:
Reno is 100% accurate on this. That’s the definition of being civil.

He is not even 50%. We in the north knows that. Campaign for a certain underdog is risky. In the last election a lot of South souther and South Easterners didn't vote, travelled out of the North or didn't identify with PDP cos of the danger if Atiku-obi wins, it's always like that. This I know first hand. So Reno should stop subtly campaigning for Atiku and against Obi, he's just bitter Obi left. If he sure for am he should not do online talks or campaigns again, he should go to the street and stand with NLC, ASUU etc #chicken

Abdul05:
l am an Igbo man too but l am supporting tinubu..

Lolx hahahahahaha eyah that's why we won't vote APC una lies too much, Abdul an Igbo? Check my username not a liar or fake like you. Stop lying

Abdul05:
Nigerians abi igbos...


Every Nigerian wants tinubu except the ibos.



"Hate politics " that is what they know..

I am Yoruba and I don't want Tinubu but before you go far like the op said in this thread. It's about rescuing Nigeria not some ambitious wish of a man.

NyamiriSlayer:
i am ibo and my vote is for Tinubu, that cursed pandora hoebi idiot will never smell aso rock

Your lie is wearing diapers. Your name and statement are far apart as heaven and earth. Look for another lie

achymmania:
If you think Yoruba people will abandon their own and vote for another Fulani man in 2023, you’re a joker.

It's the good and bad side of omoluabi. But many of us will sha not vote Tinubu we have become obidient and yusful. So we can 'abandon' our own for what will benefit all.

Iwanttoto:
Afonjas are like coats of many colours. Don't trust them. This one na pdp by day and APC by night. Trust this afonja demon at your own risk

Your name shows us a lot

vesselchino:
Don't give up on yourself when God is secretly making good plans for you.

So na this kind way God dey take plan things for person or when God answer your prayers na this kind way.

You either don't know God or you don't read your bible

Karlovych:
Hmm, Igbos!!

SMH... He's not Igbo he is Idoma, Ado in Benue state. Know things before posting them

Moferere:
All these things are unnecessary. People should learn to respect people's opinions and religion.

To avoid stories that touch, don't say anything derogatory about another person's religion. Worship your God in your own way and keep quiet.

Period!

In both cases so far there hasn't been any confirmation of blaspheming so don't talk as though there was any disrespect of person's religion. Meanwhile the hypocrisy of people about this matter is really annoying me, what is 'another person's religion' just say it the way it appears 'Christians should stop disrespecting Islam' unfortunately there's no proof of this, someone can wake up and claim blasphemy then 'goats' will react even the ones that claim to be educated. Boy toast girl, she's says no I no wan date you gbam the guy is offended and claims blasphemy, a Muslim man is owing his Christian neighbour or something, e no wan pay, small argument he will claim blasphemy.

Now the slang is there are red lines to not cross. How insensitive that means you justify killing anyone who cross that line or is even remotely alleged to cross that line. That's why I don't keep Muslims friends they are walking time bombs and me, I am a very serious Christian and know why Islam is false

Don't even get me started on the insults Christians recieve from Muslims and their blasphemy. I lived all my life so far in the North, you would always here their tafsir especially during Ramadan about Jesus or Christians aka kafari

SarutobiEky:
who come remain?

Wife or husband

Dogzoneng:
This is beautiful. There won't be copyright issues or plagiarism if your designs are unique. If you have to sketch someone else's design you state it there, tag them also just like I did with my last post, stated a met gala style recreation.
Aside this, all your designs and designs in your portfolio must be unique.


To change your designs from primitive state. First all designs starts from the basic block, then you develop it into various designs considering body shape, is it wearable, colour and fabric manipulation. You will have to upgrade your skills too, watch YouTube videos and practice or pay to learn.
My instagram handle is @fashionsketchnaija
Send me a dm there and I'll connect with you via WhatsApp. Am also google verified, search for fashionsketchnaija.

Kk thank you very much

Dogzoneng:
Open an Instagram account, post your designs at least 2 a week. Clients will find you.

Ohh kk... What about plagiarism and copyright issues for designs?
Then how do I change my designs from its primitive state to something more beautiful and attractive for instagram like yours.

Please can I have your (WhatsApp) number and Instagram handle.
A sketch of how they look, just did this now, at work and my books are at home.

Dogzoneng:
That's nice. Since you don't have a lot of time sewing,
there's a whole lot of opportunity illustration. I get fashion clients from instagram, so you can also make some money showing those drawings you have....someone might connect with you and buy them.

Wooow thanks, please can you hook me up with any or help me on how to identify/meet

Dogzoneng:
I create sketches for fashion brands. Ready to wear lines, couture. I also teach individuals and fashion schools.
Am a 3D virtual fashion designer too.

Kk I actually have a couple of sketch (like 3 books) although just basic bodice drawing haven't entered that level of virtual designs.
I have been trying to see if there's a brand I can sell some to or something. I would have love to have a clothing line for ready to wear to sha. Although I sew but don't have all the time for it cos of work.

What do you do with your sketches, do you sell them?

God1000:
Yeah, I'm proudly a liberal Christian, unlike you

There's nothing like liberal Christian else there would be non-liberal Christians. Christian is Christian, if Jesus and the Bible kicks against it, your thinking is too small to figure out a loop hole. I have no doubt you would also support homosexuality because you are "liberal"

Razgas:
well from your write up you have admitted that lent is in the bible because Jesus himself observed it. So let's leave it at that.

Again I will say, all you mentioned in your first post as practices of the Catholic church is based on the Catholic church's interpretation of one or more scriptures (with the exception of Ascension of Mary). That you have a different interpretation of same bible verse or choose not to do a particular practice done by someone in the bible is entirely up to you.

SMH... English is hard ooo. Thank you sha

onojaintegrity:
Source: https://thetrumpetng.com/ASUU-strike-no-school-in-kogi-has-been-on-strike-in-the-last-5years/

WE NO WANT

Sparrk007:
too much of prophecy and fetish practice..

Is prophecy a bad thing or not scriptural both in the old and new testaments? Your comment is ambiguous and may need clarification

Yes fetish, many are but not all. The church didn't even start as a church but a prayer and evangelical group that's why it is still called aladura (prayer people or person) till tomorrow. But in the course of winning souls especially those of the occultic who had turned their back on their practices, after the death of the founder and when they were not able to replicate some of the miracles and stuff they turn back to their old ways, they were still in the church but were using diabolic and fetish means when they are confronted and exposed, they will leave and Start their own mostly with similar names but with fetish and unscriptural practices. It is worthy of note that their are also pentecostal pastors and prophets that are fetish but since white garments are seemingly representations of purity or faith, any Tom, dick and Harry does nonsense and they and the correct ones are put in the same class

Razgas:
Lol...Lent is the fasting Jesus did for 40 days and 40 nights. Matthew 4:1-11
At that time Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. He fasted for forty days and forty nights and afterwards was hungry. The tempter approached and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command that these stones become loaves of bread.

I have showed you the bible verse for everything we do in Catholic Church (including purgatory where Jesus himself aluded to forgiveness after death. ) except the Ascension of Mary...which I accept is dogma proclaimed by a Pope. If you have a different interpretation of a bible verse from mine, how do we know who is wrong or right? Will that now qualify you to say that I or my church is not bible believing? Just because you have a different interpretation? How often do you hear catholic church saying some churches are not bible believing?

Let me start by saying that when I saw the title of the thread I was very excited cos I have always disliked the idea of saying Bible believing church and have, like the OP, asked what is a Bible believing church. If I use what I considered as my yardstick I would say all churches are Bible believing or none is Bible believing. Cos the Bible is still what everyone uses but we many times add the traditions of men.

Now about lent, I'm not ignorant of it, infact I'm not an active member of a penticostal church. I was born and bred and still attending an orthodox church as it is called. Let me make a small list of some practices done in church but not prescriptive or injunctions

1. Feet washing
2. Anointing oil (only prescribed for the sick in James)
3. Blood of sprinkling or holy water sprinkling
4. Lent
To mention a few

The only thing Jesus prescribe or said we should do like he did was the last supper, which is to be done as often as possible and I believe you know that what we now do as the Lord's supper or last supper is captured in Judaism as the feast of Passover, the difference is the frequency, time and element (Jews use lambs, Jesus used bread and wine). So there is no where that the disciples did the 40 days fast both when Jesus was alive and after he ascended. Did they fast, yes they did often if you considered what Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians but was it like what Jesus did no. He was led by the spirit to fast not by human orchestration. Am I against fasting? Not I do it very often

Sixfiguresmart:
There is nothing like Church fathers. You are very deceitful. Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth your father.

You called not even one but many (fatherS). Wow! Satan wearing his finest costume. What is church fathers? Where did a Christian ever say that? Are you not diabolic for saying that?
What did I just read? 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-inspired and is useful.

Can you see that this man is truly evil? The Bible said that ALL the scripture is useful to us but this jet-trotter and worshipper of fake men of God claims that the whole content is NOT for Believers. This is how they delude people.

Not to his point about the Law of Moses, tithing is a part of the law of Moses. Why do your pastors still collect tithes? So, you know about the law of Moses? Why do your pastors still dress like priests in the Law of Moses? From where do your choir get the robe that they wear in church? From where do you get the arrangements for rich people to sit on the altar?

Whose law is it to celebrate HARVEST? Whose law is it that pastors avoid dead bodies in the morgue?
Do you believe the Apostle Paul when he admonished you and ALL your pastors to be single 1 Corinthians 7:8? How come NONE, not even one of ALL famous pastors is single.
Do you believe Christ when he said that you will be handed over and be killed? When he asked you to run from one city to another when persecuted and you said that Christians are persecuted.
Do you believe Christ when he commands you to sell all your belongings and give to the poor. Will Adeboye sell his jets and financial empire? Will Oyedepo give up any of his wealth for the poor and needy as Jesus commanded?

Who commanded you to celebrate Valentine in church? Was it Jesus?

Can't you see that you are not Christ believing? Do you see that you do not live by the teachings of the apostles?
Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth your father.
The above is his teaching. How have you been guided by it?

Matthew 5:16 KJV - Let your light so shine before men.
the above is Jesus teaching. However the only light shining on me from your pastors are Strobe lights.

Matthew 10:8 You receive free, give free
The above is Jesus teaching. However, how much does your pastor sell the books that he published? How much is the olive oil in your church sold? How much do they sell Bible in your church?

Man, everyone will see things on here. Once I get free time from work, I will be overhauling your lies one by one and exposing your fathers here. Deceivers and scammers. Voracious Vipers

If I may can I chuk mouth for the matter? I look forward to when you'll have your free time. However, the reason why Jesus is the perfect example for the believer is that he was 100% God and 100% man. In simple English he was perfect, you may see the imperfections of some of the men of God or their different perspectives but it doesn't define the church of christ. As long as we are in the flesh we are still a work in progress however do not allow the imperfection of a man make you miss the path of christ. Like Apostle Paul said, follow me as I follow christ, christ is the ultimate, when my pastor, Reverend, spiritual father, mentor, prophet etc stops following christ I should not follow him again. The problem most times is not the men of God but their congregation, we must not lose sight of christ irrespective of the reputation of the man we subscribe to, with that I can keep my gaze on Jesus and turn aside when the man of God has made an angular or lateral shift

Razgas:
First of all what do we mean by purgatory? ...

Cheers

Smile... Thanks for taking your time to explain these, as expected logic and inaccurate use of scriptures will be the go to place, anyways thanks for the effort. However, there are Discriptive and prescriptive verses of scriptures. As Christians there are yardsticks of accurate biblical interpretation and its essential that Bible is allowed to interpret itself. That something is inferred or seen in the Bible doesn't mean it should be a doctrine. As much as I have a biblical and logical response to everything you have mentioned I would only pick one. Purgatory, the bible is not vague about certain concepts

Hebrews 9:27 KJV
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Revelation 20:11-13 KJV
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

There is no place in scriptures that suggests even remotely that those who died will go to purgatory, beyond that I was told by my catholic friends that the people said to be in Purgatory depend on the prayers of those alive to qualify for heaven. I know somethings about Islam and I couldn't help but tie a connection between some Islamic believes and practices and those done in the Catholic Church. Meanwhile there is an historical perception that the "prophet Mohammed" was 'school' by catholic priests. Anyways, whatever is not prescriptive and confirmed to be clearly stated and also confirmed by two or more scriptures is suspect. Eg lent.

Shalom

Sparrk007:
Example of not believing bible church. .Eckakar, oluba oluba, and any others White garment church. Ask me why?

Welcome I've been waiting for you? Why and how is any other white garment Church not a Bible believing church