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[quote author=malvisguy212 post=37100903]Quran 16:44
[We sent them] with clear proofs and WRITTEN ordinances. And We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought.

I'm sure the muslims know the quran was not revealed in writing. Therefore the 'writings' above refers to the earlier
Scriptures. The written proved their MUST be copies going on circulation. okay!!!


I challenge ALL muslims to answer the
following questions, if properly
answered, you will discovered soo many
lies has been told against God word:
1. At what point did the people corrupted
the Torah and Injeel, was it BEFORE
islam, during Muhammad's time of
AFTER him?
2. If it was before islam, why would Allah
refer Muhammad to something that is
non-existent to make confirmation?
3. If it was after Muhamad had died, how
was he able to receive the revelation that
the Scripture (Torah and Injeel) has been
corrupted?
now I will anwer ur second question insha allah...the quran was sent to confirm the scriptures before it,that is to authenticate it,and also to safeguard it from falsehood...now u see the jews,they say because jesus had no father,he was the illegitimate son of mary,so the reject him as a prophet of God,and the reject his gospel,so when God revealed the quran it confirms the prophethood of jesus,by telling us jesus is infact the messenger of God,that he was born miraculously,dt he healed the leper,and raised the dead by God's permission,in that sense the quran confirms the injeel as indeed from God...now the quran also performs another function of safeguarding the scriptures from falsehood,u see u christians believe because jesus had no earthly father God is his father,in that case the quran correct that blasphemy against God..."Say he is allah,the one and only
,allah,the eternal,the absolute,he begeteth not nor was he begotten,and there is none like unto him"quran 112;1-4,u see here the quran does the job of policing the scripture with the jews and christians,the only thing jesus preached all thru his life was for people to worship the one God,jesus never mentioned trinity,nor did he say worship me,his message was simply worship God...the simple word for that in arabic is islam,no where did jesus ever said worship him,no where in the bible will u see that,its amazing to see how the christians get programmed by their preachers

malvisguy212:
Quran 16:44
[We sent them] with clear proofs and WRITTEN ordinances. And We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought.

I'm sure the muslims know the quran was not revealed in writing. Therefore the 'writings' above refers to the earlier
Scriptures. The written proved their MUST be copies going on circulation. okay!!!


I challenge ALL muslims to answer the
following questions, if properly
answered, you will discovered soo many
lies has been told against God word:
1. At what point did the people corrupted
the Torah and Injeel, was it BEFORE
islam, during Muhammad's time of
AFTER him?
2. If it was before islam, why would Allah
refer Muhammad to something that is
non-existent to make confirmation?
3. If it was after Muhamad had died, how
was he able to receive the revelation that
the Scripture (Torah and Injeel) has been
corrupted?
4. The quran confirms that the Scripture
was a clear proof in writings. This means
there were copies in circulation. How
possible all copies vanished without
anyone having a copy anywhere? You
should by now discover a lie is told.
5. Why would God be so weak as to allow
man throw away His words before He
would vow to protect the subsequent
revelations? Did He learn from
experience?
6. Why will God ask muhammed to make
confirmation of the corrupted scripture
(injeel and torah) ?

. Will answer 3 of ur questions,becos in the rest all I see is repeating same questns with different words...1the muslims is made to believe in all the prophets and their messages...now the torah was given to prophet musa,the torah literally means law in hebrew,but u see according to ur bible,when moses came down he angrily broke into shreds,so meaning the original words from God in writing was lost,meaning all that was left are the preachings of moses,and the easiest infomation to twist is the oral,so afta moses died,the jews started compiling the words of moses to form the torah,to suit their religion which moses never even heard of...judaism,the most racist religion on earth...for the injeel,islam is the only religion on surface earth dt makes it an article of faith for its followers to believe in jesus,u are nt a muslim if u don't,u see wen jesus was alive he didn't go preaching with a book,wat he had was his words,the message he came with was called injeel,gospel,and if am to take jesus words in ur bible its not up to 2 pages of a newspaper,so we are made to believe in the message of jesus,the bulk of ur new testament are just stament from paul,and historian...we believe in the gospel of jesus not paul,not mark,not mattew

parisbookaddict:
You are probably a yoruba or southern Muslim. U guys are liberal and quiet. Go to the north And see core Muslims who will behead you because of ur liberal Islamic practice

. And this is where brainwashing sets in,u see my bro u've been brainwashed to think in an certain way...have u ever been to the north to see where yoruba moslems get beheaded?,no am sure u've lived all ur live in the south,yet someone or something gave u this pitiable views about muslims in the north

[quote author=fearlesschicken post=37049499]I believe in a God who creates the world we are in but I don't believe in the bible does it make me less a christian?

I had an argument with a friend of mine, he keep calling me an athiest because I said the bible is inaccurate and I can't leave my life based on a book with so many errors and contradictions.

I don't believe in all this supernatural stuffs either, like witches and wizards,demons etc or some silly doctorines we have in the bible like women being submissive and a divorcee not allowed to get married etc

I just believe in one thing: love!

So am I less a christian for not beliving the bible and all the other things I mentioned? If am not a christian what am I?

Cc:captainjune,winner01,malvinsguy212,
Johndony12,hahn,davien, etc




My bro,I say congrats to u,cos this means u've been using ur brain,u want to get connected to ur creator,u've seen the many clear contradictions and falsehood about God in the bible...,but u have just styl a small job to do,learn about islam "then woe unto those who write the book with their own hand and say "this is from God" to traffic it for miserable price..."Quran 2:79

Ayomivic:
God is a supreme being. The Almighty Creator.

The Bible does not contradict itself, it's you that have little knowledge of the scripture.

Do you know that this question you are asking about Jesus being God or not had been asked Jesus himself by Jews when he was on earth? What answer did Jesus gave to them ?I know his answer to that question will be hard for you to believe
let read the verses iam taking about

" i and my father are one. Then the Jew took up the stones again to stone him
Jesus answer them, many good works have i shewed you from my father; for which of those works do you stone me?
The Jews answered him, saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou being a man ,makest thyself God
Jesus answered them, is it not written in your law, i said, you are gods?
If he called gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken
say you of him, whom the father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, thou blasphemest; because i said, iam the son of God? John 10:30-36


" I have said, you are gods and all of you are children of the Most High" Psalm 82:6

why did God called human being gods?

You and i know that God formed the first man and woman (Adam and Eve) with soil but they have'nt be living being until God breath to thier nosrils the breath of live and he became alive.
God is lmmortal, therefor nothing of him can die, his breath we share from him that is in us cannot die. That is why, if we die it is only our body that decayed ,the soul would return to God, it cannot die. That is why the Bible refers to our body as temple of God.

But in the case of Jesus, his body and soul are pure word of God and the word of God is life. Quran and Bible testified to Jesus being the word of God. When Jesus died,he did not decay in grave like we human being before he rose up to God. God gave birth to Jesus by word not by intercouse. Not only this, God had given Jesus authority over everything he created include us as he made us to have dominion over other things he created as we see it in Genesis1:28-30 and gave him name above all name.

Psalm 138-2 said " I will worship toward thy holy temple and praise thy name for thou hast magnified the word above all the name"

which word does God magnified above all name if not Jesus the word of God?

Or Are you saying that the word of God is not god?

. I like the fact u made this quote so let's see the context,u see the jews were always looking for trouble wit jesus,so let us look at the context of the statement,cos all u gave is the text,in that same john 10,vs 22-25,jesus walks in the temple,then the jews came to ask him,hw long do u make us doubt,if u are christ tell us plainly,so he replied I told u bt ye belivied not,the works dt I do IN MY FATHER'S NAME,
because ye are not my sheep,u belive not,bt my sheep belive me,that's vs 25-27,verse 28-30,and I give unto the eternal life,he continues to explain,and no man show pluck them out of my hands,then he emphasies on this,MY FATHER that gave them to me is GREATER than all,and no man can pluck them out of my father's hand...so in verse 30 in concludes it by saying I and my father are one,he was proving a point to the jews that he and his father are one in purpose,to guide men to the path of righteousness that was his point

INJESUSNAME:
No. Jesus prayed not like muslims; Jesus did not face mecca, He never recited what the muslims recite. He had authority and power over satan and his demons as they are always trembling at His presence. Even when Jesus sent His disciples out to preach, He gave them power over evil spirit, and they were able to cast out demons in Jesus name. muslims alway mention satan when they start prayers and they raise their hands, bow and sit on the floor several times. Jesus never did that or teach His followers to do it.

. U know ur bible clearly states how to pray,but ur preachers have clouded u 4rm seeing it...joshua 7;6-7,and joshua fell upon his face,numbers 2;20-22 and moses and aaron fell upon their faces and worship the lord,matt 26:36-39 and jesus prayed,my brother this is in plain english,read ur bible,free ur mind from being programmed by ur pastors,and u can't help bt be a muslim,jesus never heard christianity in his life,nor did moses ever heard judaism in his life...why are u insulting this great man of God,by attributing to him tyns he didn't say by calling him a God