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pls someone should help me check for this name on DE aderibigbe john tony

meje!

the official cut off mark is 72,any Thomas can go confirm that in the school at d p.r.o office,and the reason they didn't paste results on the web WS cos they currently having issues with their cyber,it will be cleared soon tho,nuc and mdcsn will be visiting the scul this week,so the list should be out by next week Friday,its all ready,its just confirmation from abuja.but registration will surely start this year,then lectures by Jan.

Undisputable007:
Please guys bail me out here. Am seeing different type of cut off for Medicine here. (70 71,72,73) % and most of all am even seeing 65% for indigenes. Am confused oo.. Someone with a reliable source should please tell us the real cutoff mark here. So that we all could have rest of mind. And about the indigene stuff. Why would they involve indigenes? Please guys bail me out here. Am seeing different type of cut off for Medicine here. (70 71,72,73) % and most of all am even seeing 65% for indigenes. Am confused oo.. Someone with a reliable source should please tell us the real cutoff mark here. So that we all could have rest of mind. And about the indigene stuff. Why would they involve indigenes? Please guys bail me out here. Am seeing different type of cut off for Medicine here. (70 71,72,73) % and most of all am even seeing 65% for indigenes. Am confused oo.. Someone with a reliable source should please tell us the real cutoff mark here. So that we all could have rest of mind. And about the indigene stuff. Why would they involve indigenes?

. v. don't let people who don't have a clue themselves give u hypertension,the scul hasn't released a cut off yet,I already stated the reason for the current issues in my previous post,and yes the uni will give preference to indigenes as its done in all state institution.

Pls don't listen to anyone saying anytyn about cut off mark.they haven't released any cut off mark,the unofficial news as at yesterday from the most reputable source in the school is dt a lot of people met the requirement for admission,they weren't expecting this much crowd to enlist,so now they are trying to look for xtra parameters along with the post ume to give admissions.this is directly from the horses,stop posting nonsensical news giving the little kids high blood pressure

Anas09:
@Ops.
The little you wrote,indicates you are very bright and smart. When somebody makes an assertion, as a smart guy, what do u do? You think.
How can christ be a Christian when his followers were refered to as Christians wen he had already left back to heaven?

NOTE: they(followers of Christ) weren't called christians because they needed to be identified as such in a good way, they were so called to stigmatise and revile them. That said, Christ didn't start a religion, men, moved by greed and the already laid down traditions turned it to what it is today.
Beside, in the word "Christianity" there's Christ. We follow him and try to do what he did while on earth.
AND, we are not Christians because our Parents are Christians. Maybe you are new in NL. Somany NLanders are pastors Deacons, church Leaders/elders childrend are Atheist. that's to say, you grow up to choose ur path. A Muslim can say that because that's how it is in islam so they assume that's what optains in christianity. But no.
You are not born a Christian, you become a Christian, that's why there's need to be born again, then get baptised(initiated) into christ. And you can't be born again without understanding why christ was nailed to the cross. Even you @OPs, if you have known why Christ hung on the cross, you won't sound the way U sound.
Nobody killed Christ, you couldn't even if you wanted to. He handed over himself to be killed, because without that His mission will be futile. His blood needed to be shed as an exchange, Ransome, price, payment, call it what ever. But untill u know why he did that, you are not yet a christian.
Nicodemus asked Jesus, how that could be possible. Its not done as a child. So please seek knowledge, you are very smart, so seek knowledge.

. My bro,pls wen u want to type anything always write the truth,don't come and brainshwash the gullible ones here!jesus ws never prepared to laid his lives,first he told his desciples to get a sword,then he positions them in a proper places to protect him,then he go pray to God,and he prayed so hardly that the bible says his sweat ws like blood!!,luke 22 he ws never prepared to give his life!,he never did!,its amazing hw much u claim the holy spirit,but come here and write opposite of wats in ur bible,its very amazing

highbee7:
Intoxicants and Gambling Prohibited*
[Quran 2:219-220] They ask you about intoxicants and gambling: say, "In them there is a gross sin , and some benefits for the people. But their sinfulness far outweighs their benefit." They also ask you what to give to charity: say, "The excess." GOD thus clarifies the revelations for you, that you may reflect, upon this life and the Hereafter ...

. Quran 5vs90 " O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination),that ye may prosper". Gambling,in any form is prohibited in islam,intoxicants in any form whether drugs or alcohol is forbiden in every form in islam,using magic is also forbiden!.

freeDR:
Perhaps a little dig into the history of the Jews will provide an insight into the reason why.

Jesus came around the time of King Herod, who was a representative of the Roman emperor. Rome, through Herod and later, Governors like Pontius Pilate, persecuted the Jews in no small measure. They were executed in their thousands on the premises of religious insubordination. At about the same period, many personalities were popping up all over Israel and the region of Galilee - some as prophets, some as military insurgents - soliciting support, each one parading himself as a messiah to liberate Israel.

As a consequence of this, the presence of Jesus in the region of Galilee at this particular period was shrouded by the chaos, thereby making him unheard of by so most Jews of his generation as he passed as one of the many claimants to the messianic crown.

Also, his crucifixion didn't attract any special attention, because at about that same period about 4000 Jews were executed in Caesarea, 1500 in Antioch - some by crucifixion - for insubordination and other minor offenses.

Therefore, the message of Jesus got to so many people in continental Europe before many of the Jews got to hear about him.

Judaism has always been sufficient for them, to jettison it for a new religion like Christianity is not going be easy, even though the originator was also a Jew.

. Point of correction,jesus didn't start christianity,paul did!

akanke79:
I WANT YOUR VERSION OF PARADISE AND HELL FROM THE BIBLE AND NOT CORRECTING ME .AS YOU CAN SEE I WROTE TO BE CONTINUED.I NEED RESPONSE BEFORE I CONTINUE

. I hope our christian brothers come now to state their veiws,cos they only seem to be more interested in unuseful arguments

People got drowned and yet some transgressors are blaming the prophet(saw)!*smh*.how is islam responsible for this

namelesss:
OK, but how do such a person concludes the salat, the Juma'at prayer, will you stand up and pray the two missing raka'ats?


JAZAKALLAH KHAIR.

. All scholars are at the agreement that such a person will stand to pray the four rakats of zuhr since he didn't meet the last rokoo of jumat. Allah knows best

namelesss:
Salam,

Id like to ask about missing all the raka'ats of the Friday prayer but having to meet the imam durin the tahiyat.
I have heard different ways of concluding the prayer
1. Some say you just have to pray the two missing raka'ats.
2. Some say you pray the two missing raka'ats and then pray normal zuhr prayer again, saying that you didn't meet the jama'at prayer.
3. Some are saying that that person have missed the jama'at prayer completely.

What do you know about these and whuch references do i look for this

. The general view of scholars is that if u miss all the rukoos (2 of jumat) u have missed the prayers,and zuhr becomes obligated on such a person.

onetrack:
The Quran is wrong. Show me divinely made material (that is, material from outside the universe) which is indestructible and eternal and which has Quranic verses on it, and I will convert that very day. But don't hand me a book made like all the other books, with natural material and composed with human hands, and tell me that it's divine unlike all other books.

And it's not like Allah couldn't make the disbelievers turn into believers by simply willing it to be. Unless he is not as powerful as Muslims think.

. God already gave mankind a divine book...the holy quran,God already show u His signs(the creations),God already decreed free will for mankind,it is left for to follow His guidance.quran 3:190 "Indeed in the creation of the heavens and the earth and alternation of the night and day are signs for people of understanding"

ByfireByfire:
.

Shameless agent of satan.You pretentiously hurl lies against Christianity.


You are fighting God but nobody fights God and wins.

. I hope u don become hypertensive becos of islam,I tot u will come here and preach ur religion of 'love' but all what u've been engaging is bitterness,it must be hard for u to swallow that mohammad came 600 years after christianity started and yet islam is 23 percent of world population today,it must also be hypertensive for u to know that islam is the fastest growing religion in the western world(Uk,germany,US,france e.t.c).anyways I recommend azol oral for you,heard is very infective in hypertensive cases

allanphash7:
Lies


Blatant lie



Scam

. And of them there are some who listen to you;
but We have set veils on their hearts, so they
understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if
they see every one of the Ayat (proofs, evidences,verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) they will not believe therein; to the point that when theycome to you to argue with you, the disbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the men of old." Quran
6vs25

Blakjewelry:
Instead of writing on eggs and giving birth children with Koran and shit, why not just come down and declare it openly new York city.

. Quran 6vs7"And even if We had sent down unto you (O
Muhammad ) a Message written on paper so
that they could touch it with their hands, the
disbelievers would have said: "This is nothing
but obvious magic!"

zeeblamj:
This has nothing to do with religion. I myself am a Muslim. But how will u feel if ur wife wakes up tomorrow and tells u that she wants to marry a new husband? And that she will be sharing nights with both of u. Answer that, and my next question comes

. Now if u are muslim,you are questioning the will of Allah!,there is absolutely no basis for comparing a man and woman!!,a muslim man can marry more than up to four wives as long as he will treat them equally,@op I think u have to educate ur wife more about islam

WhoBeThisMan:
Yes God altered the laws of the universe because of us. When Adam sined in the garden of Eden right from that moment man lost his place to satan. Satan was called the god of this world. So why did God send Jesus? John 3:16 days for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

He came not just as the son of God, but as a perfect sacrifice to deal with sin permanently. Previously, the blood of sheep and goat were used. Slaughters every year for the atonement of sin ( that is covering of sin) but the blood of Jesus was for the remission of sins(removal). What better sacrifice is there?

Jesus is the son of God. You believe what the bible says that mary was a vergin, and gave birth th Jesus, you even believe that Jesus did so much miracles such has never been recoreded in history, you believe he castes out Devils with such authority as no one has ever done, you believe He was taken to heaven alive and is still alive and coming again. Why is it so hard to believe He is the son of God?

God himself testified of him saying "this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased"

All the prophet even Moses testified of his coming.

Melkezedek in the bible is not the son of God. Jesus is the son of God because God testified of Him as such, and all the prophets prophesied of His coming.

. "...Adam, which was the son of God."(Luke 3:38) "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair... And when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..." (Genesis 6: 2,4) "...Israel is My son, even My firstborn:" (Exodus
4:22) "...for I (God) am a Father to Israel, and Ephraim is My firstborn." (Jeremiah 31:9) "...the Lord hath said unto me (David): 'Thou art
My son: this day have I begotten thee." (Psalms
2:7) "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." (Romans 18:14)
Can't you see that in the language of the Jew,
every righteous person, every Tom, Dick and
Harry who followed the Will and Plan of God, was
a "Son of God". It was a metaphorical descriptive term commonly used among the Jews. The Christian agrees with this reasoning, but goes on to say: "but Jesus was not like that". Adam was made by God. Every living thing was made by God, He is the Lord, Cherisher and Sustainer of all. Metaphorically speaking therefore God is the Father of all.

danielicon:
blatant babadash.... till you come to the true knowledge of Christ , you can never understand the things of the spirit.

. And so that's ur defence of ur religion?just to say I don't understand things of the spirit?let's say u found a man worshipping idol! And u tell him to stop it,then the man replies "no no!,u can't understand it,u must first accept the worship,then the spirit will make u understand it!"Am very sure u will look at the man as insane,bt heRe u are,u can't even defend ur religion!,I say shame on you

Bismillar rahman raheem. Anytime the muslims tell the christian we believe in jesus,the christians think the muslims are trying to play nice,he thinks we are saying that so he could reciprocate by saying good things about mohammad,nay! This is far from the truth,the story of jesus birth is narrated in chapt 3 n 19 of the holy quran. THE ANGEL and MARY: 'Behold'! the angels said: 'O Mary! God hath
chosen thee and purified thee, and chosen thee
above the women of all nations" (3:42)" Chosen thee above the women of all nations."
Such an honor is not to be found given to Mary
even in the Christian Bible! The verse continues:
"O Mary!Worship thy Lord devoutly: prostrate
thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who
bow down." (3:43)
Divine Revelation
What is the source of this beautiful and sublime
recitation which, in its original Arabic, moves men
to ecstasy and tears? verse 44 below explains:
"This is part of the tidings, of the things unseen,
which We reveal unto thee (O Muhammad!) by
inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they
cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should
be charged with the care of Mary: nor wast thou
with them when they disputed (the point)
." (3:44)
Mary's Birth
The story is that the maternal grandmother of
Jesus, Hannah, had hitherto been barren. She
poured out her heart to God: If only God will grant
her a child, she would surely dedicate such a
child for the service of God in the temple.
God granted her prayer and Mary was born.
Hannah was disappointed. She was yearning for a
son, but instead she delivered a daughter; and in
no way is the female like the male, for what she
had in mind. What was she to do? She had made
a vow to God. She waited for Mary to be big
enough to fend for herself.
When the time came, Hannah took her darling
daughter to the temple, to hand over for temple
services. Every priest wanted to be the god-father
of this child. They cast lots with arrows for her -
like the tossing of the coin - head or tail?
eventually she fell to the lot of Zakariya, but not
without a dispute.
The Source of His Message
This was the story. But where did Muhammed,
salla Allah u alihi wa sallam, get this knowledge
from? He was an Ummi, Arabic for "unlettered".
He did not low how to read or write. He is made
by God Almighty to answer this very question in
the verse above, by saying that it was all by
divine inspiration. The Good News
" 'Behold!' the angels said: 'O Mary! Allah giveth
thee glad tidings of a word from him: his name
will be Jesus, the son of Mary; held in honor in this
world and the hereafter; and (of the company of)
those nearest to Allah." (3:45)
"Nearest to God," not physically nor
geographically, but spiritually. Compare this with
"And (Jesus) sat on the right hand of God." (Mark
16:19). The bulk of Christendom has
misunderstood this verse as well as many others
in the Bible. They imagine the Father (God) sitting
on a throne, a glorified chair, and His Son, Jesus,
sitting on His right hand side. Can you conjure up
the picture? If you do, you have strayed from the
true knowledge of God. He is no old Father
Christmas. He is beyond the imagination of the
mind of man. He exists. He is real, but He is not
like anything we can think of, or imagine.
In eastern languages "right hand" meant a place
of honor, which the Holy Quran more fittingly
describes as "In the company of those nearest to
Allah." The above verse confirms that Jesus is the
Christ. and that he is the Word which God
bestowed upon Mary. Again, the Christian reads
into these words, a meaning which they do not
carry. They equate the word "Christ" with the
idea of a god-incarnate; and the "Word" of God to
be God.
"Christ" Not a Name
The word "Christ" is derived from the Hebrew
word Messiah, Arabic Maseeh. Root word masaha,
meaning "to rub", "to massage", "to anoint".
Priests and kings were anointed when being
consecrated to their offices. But in its translated
Grecian form, "Christ" seems unique: befitting
Jesus only.
Christians like to translate names into their own
language; like Cephas to "Peter" , Messiah to
"Christ". How do they do that? Very easily.
Messiah in Hebrew means "Anointed". The Greek
word for anointed is Christos. Just lop off the 'os'
from Christos, and you are left with "Christ"; a
unique name!
Whilst the good news was being announced
(verse 45 above) Mary was told that her unborn
child will be called Jesus, that he would be the
Christ, a "Word" from God, and that...
"He shall speak to the people in childhood and in
maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the
righteous." (3:46)
"At length she brought the (baby) to her people
carrying him. They said: 'O Mary! truly a strange
thing has thou brought!'. 'O sister of Aaron!, thy
father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a
woman unchaste!' " (The Holy Quran 19:27-28)
Jews Amazed:after the birth of this child,she returns to her people,they were all shocked!"Sister of Aaron": Mary is reminded of her high
lineage and the unexceptionable morals of her
father and mother. How, they said, she had fallen,
and disgraced the name of her progenitors!
What could Mary do? How could she explain?
Would they, in their censorious mood accept her
explanation? All she could do was to point to the
child, who, she knew, was no ordinary child. And
the child came to her rescue. By a miracle he
spoke, defended his mother, and preached to an
unbelieving audience."
Allah azza wa jall says in the Quran:
"But she pointed to the babe. They said: 'How can
we talk one who is a child in the cradle?' He
(Jesus) said: 'I am indeed a servant of Allah (God)
: He hath given me revelation and made me a
prophet: 'and He hath made me blessed
wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me
prayer and charity as long as I live. '(He hath
made me) kind to my mother, and not
overbearing or unblest; 'So Peace is on me the
day I was born, the day that I die, and the day
that I shall be raised up to life again)
'!" (19:29-33). Finally!:The Quran
absolves Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him,
from all the false charges of his enemies as well as
the misplaced infatuation of his followers. His
enemies allege that he blasphemed against God
by claiming Divinity. His misguided followers claim
that he did avow Divinity, but that was not
blasphemy because he was God. What does the
Quran say ?
Addressing both the Jews and the Christians,
Allah says:
"O People of the Book! commit no excesses in
your religion: nor say of Allah (God) aught but the
truth. Christ Jesus son of Mary was (no more
than) a messenger of Allah (God), and His Word,
which he bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit
proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah (God)
and His messengers..." (4:171)The Jews made certain insinuations about the legitimacy of Jesus and charged him of blasphemy by twisting his words. The Christians read other meanings into his words; wrench words out of their context to make him God...may God guide us all

malvisguy212:
listen!
Adam was created without the agency of
a human father or mother because, as
the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents. Such an act of
creation was necessary at the beginning
of the world of mankind. Someone had to.

But in the case of Jesus it was different
,
he was born without a human father
when God’s natural process of PROCREATION had long been in existence. Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with God.

My question to you is this:
What was the reason, Jesus having the virgin birth?why dint God just allow Jesus to be born normally like you and I ? Surly their must be reason why God interrupt His very own law of nature.

. "VerilyB our word unto a thing when We intend it,is only that we say 'BE' unto it and it is"quran 16:40,see this is islamic point of view,for God to create the heaves and the earth ten times over,He only says 'BE',for God to create ten billion jesus without fathers He only says 'BE',that is the power of God!.jesus having no father is God showing us his signs!,in ur bible,gen 14;18,hebrew 7:1,talk about a man mechidezek without fatther,without mother,without beginning and end!,will u say this man is God becos he had no parent?of course ur anser is no!,this is God altering all laws for one man!God only alters the laws of universe so people can have more faith,moses dividing the sea,abraham getting unburnt in fire,mohammad splitting the moon into two,mohammad receiving the quran,jonah surviving the belly of the fish,jesus healing the leper,talking in childhood(found in the quran),raising the dead!these is God showing mankind his signs so they will have faith and believe in him

Annunaki:
Yes the crusaders committed atrocities and we christians condemn it cause they are going against the teachings of jesus. TIn the case of boko haram they are following the instructions of mohamed to the letter so it's their evil religion that is to blame.

. "Those my enemies who will not have me reign over them,bring them here and slaughter them in front of me"....can u please tell me who said those words?

basilico:
There were no 8000 Muslims killed in Bosnia. Total fabrication by Muslims who in fact only 3000 bodies were found after Oric fled to Tulsa where he had murdered many non Muslims.
The dead Muslims even voted later. The Srebenice massacre never happened. Muslims fake stories every time they lose and take advantage of the free world honesty to make themselves victims in wars they started.

. Its a bad thing to speak without knowledge,but insha allah I will help u, so here is a western source, www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33496684

dejonimist:
It's very difficult to defend the sanctity of the Bible and the divine operation of the Church of God to unbelievers. But I’ll try to say a few things here as time will permit me, if only it would help someone who is genuinely interested in learning.

@Thirdborn to answer I will explain your quotes one by one. Deuteronomy 28:15: is Moses speaking to the Israelites. It is clear that God wants us to obey all His Commandments. They are repercussions and reward for not obeying and for obeying even the littlest of His commandments up till this very moment. The question is which commandments is God’s and which is Moses’ or the Pharisees’, because some commandments and advices are actually given by godly men from their godly wisdom and not really God’s. They are recorded in the Bible as so, clearly, others not so clearly, some of these not clearly stated as godly advice/commandments from godly men are mistakenly taken as a rule or even as God’s commandments. The key is knowing which is actually God’s Commandments. We don’t have the time to discuss further on that now.

Matthew 5:17-20: is Jesus speaking, defending his ministry, most especially explaining that he came to fulfill the Law. What does fulfill mean to you? It means accomplish, execute, complete. Forget all the figurative statements and focus on the point here… Jesus came to fulfill the law. Now once you have completed something do you go back to doing it again? Except of course if you didn’t do it well like if you failed your promotion exam. That explains why we have the Old Testament and the New Testament. One is much higher than the other, like secondary school and university. God gave the elect (Jews and all who joined themselves to Judaism at that time) the old covenant (Old Testament or Judaism) to practice.

The Jews could not be justified by practicing Judaism so they kept at it for a long time so much that it became a burden/bondage for them (like repeating a class three times). God already knew this and had a plan for a messiah to save them from this bondage. Note that only Jesus passed the test and so now has the key to the New Testament. Now there is a new elect (the Church of Christ) and a[b] greater law[/b] (grace). How did Jesus fulfill the Law and provided an escape for the Jews as well as the gentiles (the rest of the world)? He kept all the law, obeyed the greatest commandment – up to the point of giving up His life for the word of God to be fulfilled. My point, which is not originally mine but interpreting the truth in the word of God is this, the New Testament – Covenant (call it contract or law) has done away with some things in the Old Testament. The reasons given by God are (1) there are no longer relevant (2) there is a greater/stronger law that overrules it. When you are in Secondary school there is light out rules in the boarding house, but in the university you are allowed to stay awake till morning if you like as long as you stay peacefully with your roommates.

I Corinthians 11:6: & - I Corinthians 14:34-35: are actually talking about conduct of women in the Church. The whole essence is about modesty and order in the Church meetings. Other Christians may disagree with my interpretation but the focus still remains that they must be modesty and order at Church meetings. Man is the head of woman so a woman is not allowed to have authority over man or teach men in the congregation of the saints, though they may pray and prophesy.  Churches that allow this are in my opinion mistakenly doing this. Note that it’s not all churches that allow that. Some in my opinion are in error.

- Jeremiah 10:2-5: is talking about Idolatry, cutting down a tree to make it into a god to worship. Nobody worships Christmas trees; they use it only for decorations. If anybody is worshiping Christmas trees then he is not a Christian in the first place. Also Christmas is not a Christian ‘spiritual rite’. It is not in the Bible as a commandment that we must celebrate it. It’s just a time people have decided to use to remember Jesus’ birth (for He is a great man) and to share love and gifts. It is celebrated by all. A lot of things people do at Christmas are actually not ‘spiritual’, like people drinking to the point of getting drunk.

Salam Aleku (Peace to you)

. I saw two very strange things on your post I will like to correct,first,the messengers of God never say anything to people other than what God commands them to say,becos watever they say becomes law of God,they only say whatever God tells them to,secondly u mentioned God giving isrealites judaism,God NEVER gave the jews judaism,moses never mentioned judaism all his life,he never heard the word,his message was "o isreal ur God our lord is one",it was long after moses died,the jews brot their own religion,judaissm...I read ur post nicely,I hope u read mine to nicely without prejudice,u see God gave the jews a law(torah) when they came out of egypt,'an eye for an eye,a tooth for tooth',it was a quick law they needed,because they were in the desert,moving from places to places,they didn't have time to for lengthy litigation,or even space to imprison people,so The ALL Wise gave them a quick law,this law was meant as quick justice,but u see the jews after years,they made the law into sumtyn else,they forgot about forgiveness,anything,so God sends jesus to bring them back to the path of forgiveness,but the pharises were sceptical about jesus,so jesus assures them,'I have nt come to abolish ur law,but rather to fulfil it'.jesus didn't come with a new law,he never did,rather all he preached was to teach the jews how to follow the laws,and also how to forgive.The laws of God never changes,NEVER will it ever change,we humans can decide to obey or disobey the laws,but God will never change his word.

[quote author=malvisguy212 post=37370396]Nice one op. They will insult you instead of proof, insult is their proof.[/quotes stop hiding behind ur fone,get a hall,invite all ur friends on nairaland,let's debate between one another in front of the whole world.this should be easy for u if u were sure of ur religion,but nay u prefer copying and pasting whatever thing u see on the internet,insha allah,this will be the last time I respond to u

tartar9:
slowpoke,why didn't you provide verifiable sources for your stats and scientific myths shameless liar!

. Salaam alaykum brother,don't let her get to ur skin,I wanted to reply all what she said,but I changed my mind when I actually saw her profile.,no matter what you explain to them,they will never listen,they just want to bash and bash

parisbookaddict:
The vast majority of Muslims in the north won't behead u just for the fun of it. But they are more prone to violence.

#They have killed several people for allegedly desecrating the quran. Inculding the famous lynching and beheading of an igbo man whose wife was accused of using a piece of the quran for tissue paper.
#They have burn several churches over the years, inculding this year.
#They attaCk Christian dominated areas
#a pastors daughter was killed this year by the average northern muslim not boko haram or the yoruba muslim
#the Danish and Charlie hebdo cartoons caused riotS in the north and murder of Christians but not by southern yoruba Muslims.


These crimes were NOT the work of the crazy bokoharam, these where the average northern muslim. boko haram came and introduced more literal commands of the quran such as kidnapping girls, using them as sex slaves, killing Christians routinely to drive them out of muslim territories, refusing western education etc

Spare me your "brianwashed theory". Was it the southern Muslims that killed 60,000 igbos(and other southerners) in 1967, no, it Was the muslim northerners.

The truth is simple, northern Muslims are more accepting of violence than the vastly peaceful yoruba muslim.

You can NOT deny that.

. Wat of those 8000 muslims killed by christian bosnians,wat of those 3000 muslims killed by isreal,wat about those 500 thousand people killed by christians in the world war,wat about those thousands of people killed by MEND,wat about those 1 million muslims killed by america(with a 70 percent christian population),and what about the thousands of muslims killed by boko haram,and the thousands rendered homeless?.have u ever seen boko haram or ISIS reading the quran to justify what they do?,the biggest casualty of boko haram till date are muslims,yet u believe they are sponsored by Islam,don't use the followers to judge a religion,rather use the religion to judge the followers,go to the net,and take a study about islam,since u refuse to read any thing a muslim post on nairaland

Medicis:
The problem with people like you is that you think it's all about the bible, or what John or paul wrote. NO!!!! See, people like us are christians because i have experienced, had encounter, being delivered, prayed for a fellow muslim friend who was healed instantly and his fellow muslim brothers were amazed. So my brother, I have PROVE that my God is so real. How real is Allah to you Forget about what mohammed said in the quran for a second and discover Allah for yourself. JESUS IS SO REAL TO ME.

. The problem with u is that u are easily so persuaded with miracles,miracle is not the criterion for salvation,let's ask jesus,shall we? Matt 24:24,"for many christs and false prophets will arise to perform great signs and wonders to even possible deceive the elect" jesus is clearly giving u a warning not to take miracles as the basis for salvation,again in the bible jesus says of john the baptist(may Allah blessings be upon them all)jesus says john the baptist is the greatest of all human ever lived,that means even greater than jesus,cos jesus was also born of a woman....can u name one miracle of john the baptist for me?,clearly miracles are not the criterion for salvation,the hindus perform miracles all the time,the chinese perform miracles all the time,the nigeria herbalist perform miracles all the time,the alfas perform miracles all the time,miracles doesn't mean anything,...remember the woman in the bible who touched jesus,jesus felt something ws being drawn from him,so jesus said to the woman,"ur faith has healed thee" telling u watever u put ur faith on can give u miracles,so u doing miracles doesn't give u salvation

Medicis:
whatever!! All I know is that we don't serve the same God. Face your allah

. My brother,I know its not easy,but swallow ur pride and admit wrong wen u see it...christianity is a man made religion,its nt the religion of jesus,jesus never preached christianity,don't let ur preachers lead u to darkness...the jews say becos jesus had no father,he is the illegitimate son of mary,so the rejected and tried killing him,the christians say becos jesus had no father,God is his father,so the worship,they are both going in extreme directions. quran 5:116-119 "and (remember) when Allah will say (on
the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son
of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men:
'Worship me and my mother as two gods
besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You!
It was not for me to say what I had no right (to
say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely
have known it. You know what is in my inner-
self though I do not know what is in Yours,
truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all
that is hidden and unseen.
117. "Never did I say to them aught except
what You (Allah) did command me to say:
'Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' And I
was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst
them, but when You took me up, You were the
Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to
all things. (This is a great admonition and
warning to the Christians of the whole world).
118. "If You punish them, they are Your
slaves, and if You forgive them, verily You, only
You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise ."
119. Allah will say: "This is a Day on which the
truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are
Gardens under which rivers flow (in Paradise) -
they shall abide therein forever. Allah is
pleased with them and they with Him. That is
the great success (Paradise)

beejaay:
i was a muslim before,a well educated muslim from ilorin core and i can boldy say that all religions including islam are for weakling,religions are for those without observation instinct and poor sense of imagination...infact u dont need to read any book or listen to any arguments to see,all that is required is an observant and imaginative mind. Just like one immam said iq his books "the law is for you and the truth is for us(gnostics), what is for us is profane to the ears of non-initiates".. So stop talking as if its only christains that turn atheist.i av talked to plenty closet muslim cleric atheists...read about the growth of atheism in the arab countries...if arabs should eliminate their apostate laws,islam will disappear from there in less than 50years

. If u were a muslim who read the quran u would never be an atheist,as for the big bang theory,God already revealed this to prophet mohammad 1400 years ago,this verse was not meant for those arabs to ponder on,rather God was speaking to the 21st century man,who went to the space and discovered the earth must have been made through a big bang,so God revealed 1400 years ago quran 21:30"do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and earth were joined together,before We cleft them asunder?we made from water every living thing,will they not then believe",God already told us the big bang in the quran,mohammad would never have known this,so who then told him this? The quran answers that "he has been taught(this quran) by the One mighty in power"quran 53:5...

malvisguy212:
no muslims have been able to answer this questions, yet they will open their filty mouth and say 'the bible is corrupted.

. Go get a hall so we can debate you in an open place,u open a thread,then when u see u've made pointless u run and open another one,such cowardice,if u really have knowledge of ur bible and religion,then book a hall,and we will come and debate u,where the whole will see

Medicis:
King James did not write the Bible he only translated from greek/hebrew to English the same way Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther translated it to yoruba. Are you so dumb that you don't know that allah and YAHWEH are not the same and that our jesus is not your issa. Well I dnt blame someone who thinks washing his joystick with water after urinating will take to paradise sha.. So you think giving Jewish prophets muslim names make them muslim abi? Your case is so pathetic!!!

. U used the word 'Yahweh' do u even know the origin of this word,this word is a four lettered word in hebrew,YHWH,the jews considered this name of God so holy that they don't pronounce it,infact anybody that called this name of God in public where to be hanged,there's no such thing as yahweh in the jewish trandition,rather they called God by adonai,elohim,eli,and ELAH,in arabic the name is called ALLAH,where did u christians get the name yahweh from,u guys keep doing what u feel like in ur religion,jesus was not named jesus christ by his mother,u christians changed his name to fit western style,his mother named him,eeshor in his aramaic language,in the arabic language it is issa,classically in hebrew he is called essua,hw he got the name 'jesus' beats my imagination,his mother also never named him'christ' that's wat u christians innovated for him,his mother name him,messiah,in arabic 'messi',but u now changed his name to christ..u keep inventing things the way u like,and yet u say God is leading u,