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Janosky:
The screenshot is visible in my previous comment @ 7:17pm.
It address a point you made about emergency situations, which necessitated the highlighted part of the screenshot , to respond to your point.

So how is this screenshot a response to emergency blood need like road accident victims, anaemic patient who cant store their blood and suddenly need blood..?? Im genuinely asking

Janosky:
Are all the prohibitions of Acts 15:29 specific to only animals?
No.
The principle there in, applied to us, humans.
That verse is against fornication.
Is oral action expressly stated there at Acts 15:29?
No.
Is someone doing oral action on another person disobeying the instruction against fornication?
Yes.

Nah the same principle guide JWs to Abstain from .....

So why are u here changing the laws u claim are from God’s scripture??
Yall claim eating blood and transfusing is the same thing years ago to justify refusing all forms of transfusion….

so all of a sudden eating your own blood is now okay??

The man in USA is just playing with your lives in a bid to appear unique….yall are not different from muslims who dint read their quran but are inly told whats in it…

Janosky:
Oga, be humble pls.
No dey assume you know everything.
Abeg yous read the screenshot.

This screenshot is supposed to be what sir??

MaxInDHouse:
If you want to know something try to be polite i have the right to my own faith so if you're disrespectful because i'm responding to you like a mature person then i will turn you into a joke o!😟

U are angry because the truth is like a hard knock on the head….
I dropped some examples of medical situations needing blood… u ignored them and responded only to pregnant women claiming u already have solution to blood loss during delivery …. Are u not deceiving yourself sir…..??
Whats the solution u have for anaemic disease patients that cant even store their own blood because they dont even have enough to begin with

The millions of children saved by one man’s blood transfusion… what provisions do u have for that??

Like i said sir be deceiving yourself just to juatify your points

Janosky:
Oga, pls allow us to use all the medical treatment options which the law & medical professionals have agreed is useful & very safe.

Is there any law that stipulates JW's must chose the medical treatment option you prefer?

U ddnt read… u jumped into into a conversation in between….
This discussion isnt about your choice…i mean u can choose not to eat for 100days… but saying the bible said so its a different issue entirely

there are pple who dont use drugs at all, some dont eat meat, and some types of foods…but they are not claiming scripture said so..
.. this discussion is ur skewed interpretation of scriptural context at the expense if pple’s lives

…. Act 15:29’s context is about blood from animals… ur organisation is being extreme in a bid to appear different yet deliberately refusing to see they are playing with pple’s lives….

MaxInDHouse:
We already have measures on ground to handle such matters in fact that is what all the elders are doing now.

For instance if anyone is pregnant we start planning on how to help perhaps any complications arises.

Which measure do u have in place from accident victims who lose too many blood , anaemic patients, and pple going for surgery that involve heavy blood loss….??
Baba be deceiving yourself…. Yall are fornicating and committing adultery but trying to prove what is not by refusing a medical intervention that could save life

MaxInDHouse:
Thousands of JWs have done that safely without blood transfusion jàre.

So blood transfusion is not compulsory since we have options!🙂

I never said its compulsory….
Mothers have complications .. some cannot birth naturally and hence need c-section which may cause need for blood..

Have u heard of accident victims who lose a lot of blood.., hence need transfusion to survive

Have u head if anaemic patients… like patients with sickle cell sometimes need to be trasfused when they have their usual medical crises…. As in …why do u sound so deliberately unintelligent

MaxInDHouse:
So you're not sure if blood transfusion can save patients it's just an approach to which the patient has a right to object!

Lol….whats is the matter with you:::
The evidence that blood transfusion saves is there for all to see.. right now.. a mother is birthing a child and will aurvive because of blood transfusion…

A man with a unique antibody in his blood saved the life of over two million babies born with Rhesus blood anomaly through transfusion for the last 6 decades…. So what do u mean by im not sure..

Do u even understand what u read…??

Nefort:
Oga stop focusing on women alone.

. If have a male and female child … i will emphasize on this issue on the female because she has more to lose….

Nefort:
Call your fellow men to order.

What order?? U spread your legs… why would i tell a man not to enter….. Sex is a good thing… i just expect the gender that has more to lose exercise more caution

Nefort:
I bet you ain't even a virgin and you are here expecting women to be virgins. Are you a virgin yourself?

Did u read anyhwere in my comment i expected women to be virgins?? If u did , please show me??

Nefort:
As long as you ain't a virgin please allow women to enjoy their sexual life. It's non of your business who the chose to sleep with.

enjoying sexual life and being irresponsible are two different things… when u get pregnant out of wedlock u start looking for men to blame forgetting this enjoying u are claiming

MaxInDHouse:
Don't change the subject nah.

Who told you that treatment involving blood transfusion is 100% safe?🙂

Lol…u are the one changing the subject from a scriptural position to the technicality of 100% safety…..

Nothin in life is 100% safe…even the everyday food you eat has risks hence not 100% safe…so u dont have a point until u start avoiding everything in life because of 100% safety reasons

.the plane or car u transport is not 100% safe..
coca-cola and other beverages contain chemical additive that increase the risk of cancer hence not 100% safety
Child birth, weda natural birth or c-section is not 100% safe…
. Virtually all drugs we use are not approved because they are 100% safe…but the FDA approves them anyway because it helps to a high degree and the risk are manageable…. Some drugs cause heart disease, liver problems, kidney damage….yet they are approved with the condition they are prescribed for patients not prone to these diseases

so trying to play with the technicality of 100% safety just exposes ur desperation to prove ur organisation’s point…

the safety of blood transfusion rest largely on the medical science technology of blood profiling before administration…

Baba.. dont get me wrong oooo…If ur reason for not wanting blood transfusion is lack of trust in medical science, that fine……… i know pple who dont take blood, drugs, coca cola, meat, and even some common foods…

.there are pple who dont even beleive in going to the hospital just because they dont beleive in science…but its not because of some weird manipulation of scriptures context…

hiding under act 15v29 is skewed interpretation and a complete truckload of garbage

RealLordZeus:
It's actually eagle spirits
I've always wondered on how why it's evil here

… it has always been evil….

What do you mean by eagle??

Eldeedon:
Inside gallon

Dont be wicked….
Its a serious issue….
These cult just like to play card with the lives of their members… they just create bunch if rules to make themselves appear different from others …

achorladey:
That publication you referenced yesterday, I think I need to screenshot that aspect. In the nearest future they will change whatever was written there based on the latest development about members being free to store and accept their own blood after being stored

Store their blood where??

MaxInDHouse:
Who told you blood transfusion has been proven to be 100% safe?🙂
For your information it's killing more than saving the lives of patients but the world health organization (WHO) knows how to keep people like you in the dark so you won't loose trust in the West regarding medicals!

. no need to be desperate to prove a point by dropping propaganda statement

I have evidence of pple transfusion has saved…most pple have .. james harrison is proof of blood transfusion that has saved pple from diseases and not even in the case of blood shortage

u have no evidence for complication or death as a result of proper transfusion yet u chose lies and propaganda just to prove your org right….

Since u are the defender of ur org…my question is how will this new law work in real life…

Will u keep blood in your fridge for the day of trouble?? Lol
or ur org wants to start running blood bank services for JWs to keep their blood all over the world…

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ it's like saying smokers are liable to die young then you are claiming you know a smoker who lived up to 80 years.

Sir try not be desperate to prove a point ….
How is a proven medical intervention that has worked for decades the same as smoking which is a pleasure induced habit?
U claimed this intervention will never ever work.. but there are years of evidence that has proved u wrong

Since u are defender of this ur organization… please i am genuinely curious how this ur new law work in real life scenairo??

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what all JWs believe.

Blood transfusion doesn't save but kills because the blood from someone else will never ever work perfectly with your own body so when this new update came in it makes the scriptural guidance more logical because it's your own blood not that of someone else!🙂

The blood of someone else will never ever work?? U even said “never ever”

Are u denying years of evidence of transfused accident victims, or anaemic individuals that have gone ahead to live their lives to the fullest??

Are u denying the thousands pregnant mothers who survived because of transfusion instead of bleeding out on the delivery or operating table..

Are u denying James Harrison who donated blood over thae last 60 years that saved millions of babies born with Rh disease

I mean..its fine to hold on to your religious doctrines but denying basic medical fact and evidence just to justify your organisation is a whole new level of delusion of cultic behaviour

MadeMan01:
we need to bring back shame. you women like to justify stupid behaviour

Lol……

Nefort:
Tell your sons to zip up as well and not just your daughters alone. You will be wasting your time if you don't tell your sons to zip up. Because other people's sons will grow up to start applying pressure on your daughters to open their legs and they will yield to the pressure, or other people's sons will eventually open your daughters legs by force.

Which pressure are u trying to blame…?? .u are not sexually disciplined but trying to blame others for pressuring you… it doesnt matter weda there is pressure or not… every individual woman is the one responsible for preventing any guy from making her dumping ground …

lenghtinny:
I shook my head when I saw the comment

I can’t believe that there are some group of men that believe men loves sex more than women

Ask anywhere, women loves sex more than men, they are just good at pretending that they don’t

No mind them… they like to pretend they are innocent that the men are the ones making them do it……. but the truth is they are on both end of suply chain and logistics ….

I mean Its fvnny, the gender that gets pregnant, carry baby for 9 months with risk of being abandoned or even death are the ones spreading legs without caution and coming here to cry that men are the one that should zip up to prevent babymama pattern littered everywhere …

Its common sense… if i have more to lose, i will definitely be more responsible

Nefort:
People still moved about during COVID. So don't make it sound like imprisonment.



You are just contradicting yourself and saying rubbish. If women are the custodians of sex then they are doing men a favour when they allow men have sex with them.

Tell your fellow men to zip up and stop disturbing women for sex. It doesn't make sense asking women to be virgins while men keep disturbing women for sex. If you can't tell men to abstain from sex then stop asking women to be virgins. The ecosystem wouldn't work when women are becoming virgins and men don't want to be virgins.

Lol… it appears u are already getting angry….we dont have to agree

But Like i said…. Continue to expect others to be responsible for you own chastity….. if you have a daughter don't tell her to close her legs… instead keep screaming at all the men you see not to approach her

Nefort:
Stop directing your statement to me. Direct it to all the men who lack self control and all the sex addicts and rapists. Even if you can control yourself it doesn't mean every man can do so. This is not between me and you. You are failing to consider the general impact including all the men who lack self control. Stop asking women to be virgins while you don't put the same pressure on men to be virgins too. The men who lack self control will make it chaotic when they start going for it by force. Your sisters wouldn't be spared in that chaos.

Funny guy….

During months of covid… many pple stayed in their house… they ddnt die because of no movement and no sex… no chaos will happen….

The people that tell women to close their legs say so because women are the custodian of sex… go and check marriages .. if sex is not happening its the woman thats the cause….. until a woman wants to have sex.. nothing is going to happen

Mariangeles:
Na there them dey see you.

Yawn!!!!

Nefort:
Imagine a world where every non married woman abstains from sex. Do you think men will cope with that? I hope your sisters wouldn't be rape victims.

… lack of sex doesnt kill .. doesnt even do anything to you….so u are just talking garbage…yall just watch too much sexual content that makes ur discipline hard to maintain …

U make sex sound like a favour women do for men… in case u dont know women spread legs because they want it too…
and if they stop spreading the outcome is that men will marry quickly and not widespread rape…..

Why cant everybody just be in their personal house and pay their own bills….. no need to tension each other with all these chores and sex…..

Nefort:
What makes me angry about the part in bold is that most of you advise ladies to avoid premarital sex but you don't advice men to do the same. If women avoid sex when men need sex it is going to chaotic.

As in…..Why will it be chaotic…?? even in marriage women deny their husband sex so why are they spreading legs everywhere pretending they dont have choice….. if u like dont avoid premarital sex, be expecting another person to take responsibility for your own sexual discipline

Gotocourt:
Allow your bro marry one fess, till then

Lol…u dey look for her trouble be that oooo…. Na there women logic dey end.. once e reach time to apply the advice they are giving other women’s son to their own sons and brother ……

Baba…. The day i see single mother dey para, threaten fire and hail stone for her son wey bring her fellow single mother home to marry.. na that time i know women brain get two compartment wey nor dey mix…..
One compartment go activate when dem ready to fvck up other women’s son, but once he reach their own son.. the real brain go show..

MaxInDHouse:
What my Bible said is:
"abstain from blood" Act 15:29🙂

But the context is clear sir…as in.. cant u see the context??…..its a dietary instruction, it has nothing to do with medical intervention….

Im shocked at how ur organisation interprets basic scripture throwing context away

dettolgel:
Na products wey get market you fit demarket

Una too wicked for this nairaland

wellmax:
but king and PM send Tinubu

Them no send tinubu…. They just want to use nigeria..
to make it worse… they are even sending for the president like an errand boy

atobs4real:
Are they in the same level?
Kemi is just demarketing us

Both of them are demarketing us…

Janosky:
Your bible verse also says " do not eat the blood of any creature".
Oga, Is man a creature?
Yes.

The analogy already stated is irrefutable.
Blood is sacred,in case you don't know .
God is wiser than all of us.

Shalom. [/b]

Whateva makes u sleep well at night is fine by me…

Thats how u misinterpreted praying in the closet… i hope u all have closet to pray inside??