₦airaland Forum

MaxInDHouse:
Abstain from blood is the instruction so tell me how abstinence doesn't include taking it into the body system Sir!🙂

.. every scripture has context which u decided to cut out out of my comment
.. the instruction isnt just to stay away from blood …it clearly spoke on the context of eating the flesh of an animal and discarding the blood……... But its alright if lying will make you sleep well at night….. enjoy

Janosky:
Oga, when the law stipulates , "don't take drink or drive under the influence of....." You know what .

When you inject those substances into your body,& drive your car under the influence of" ,have you obeyed the law , "don't drink & drive under influence ?

Just asking for a friend....

This is a desperate and a very-close-to weird explanation…it is very far from context just as your organisation’s interpretation of the scripture is very far from context…..

The scripture talked about eating animals but dont eat the blood…how did u arrive at blood transfusion??

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i said the post is misleading because we are living by Bible standard as those taking the lead among us guides.
So if anyone trusts in the scriptures he or she will submit not to them but what is found written in the scriptures! Hebrews 13:7🙂

Baba…. There was no transfusion in the time when the instruction was given …I'm curious as to why your organization thinks the interpretation of that instruction means dont participate in blood transfusion….
Correct me if im wrong..is it not the same deut 12v23? The context of that verse from the top is pretty clear, talking about eating of animal meat bu not the blood….
Again, im really curious how your organisation arrived at blood transfusion in interpreting a simple verse/chapter??

SpencerForbes:
Condoms producers will definitely not be happy with this scientific advancement 🚶‍♂️

No be only condom producers go cry ooo

. Those that enter marriage by trapping guys with pregnancy… awòn team “guy i am pregnant and we dont abort in our lineage ”..

nairalanda1:
So, why are you here complaining about it. GO OUT AND BE THE CHANGE. I'll even join you self.



Hmm, you are getting more and more angry here. Calm down.



You do need to read a lot more history dear boy....

Your comment here is wrong.


Read my post again.


Those who don't are even much larger and in millions ...like four or five times larger than those who do.


70% Of nigerians not paying taxes is not going to move mountiains or rivers, I daresay.

u dont even have the figure for how much govt earns from taxes…. U just just try to justify you lies and ur support for corrupt officials by assuming those who pay tax are next to zero



The above shows you are not ready for change, or for the hard work of change.

You've given up.




Well, most of you have given up, so, being the only one is painful

But whenever I vote, I don't vote for tinubu obi gej, obasanjo, buhari, yaradua, etc. I vote for a smaller party. That's my part.

Good afternoon darling. You are losing your temper and thus your thought train.

You are just a propagandist who come here to justify you pay to your pay masters……
If not….. how can u claim u are a nigerian yet telling nigerians the only way to make corrupt leaders do right is to pay more for them to steal….
To top it all up… u tell Nigerians they are not doing enough… its like u want to be unfortunate this afternoon….

nairalanda1:
If that was the case, I would be saying 'Pay your taxes so that government won't steal your money anymore'...which is riddiculous.

Thats exactly what u are saying….u are telling Nigerians to pay money to pple we already know are thieves and protected by laws and security agencies…. I gave examples of how anyone who protests for any injustice gets arrested and shot…. U made a mockery of it by saying Nigerians gave up…. Must nigerians be shot or arrested before govt does the right thing…?? must nigerians pay all they have before govt will do the riggt thing??

nairalanda1:
If more people pay, they would feel the gap in their wallets.
That would force them to put pressure on the government.

This is just fallacy and in summary lies…. What pressure can everyday nigerians put on protected leaders?? I ask u..??
Please be practical in ur submission…..apart from social media where nigerians rant….what pressure are u talking about?? They justice system is corruption.. so Nigerians cant sue the other arms of govt… so ur point is just very stvpid ..

nairalanda1:
It's a big part of why developed countries are developed.

Developed nations ddnt pay tax so they hold their leaders accountable.. their leaders were already accountable…
For example Go and read the history of germany and why education is free to phd level today for both citizens and non citizens…
education was already free for home student… they came together and agreed to tax more to fund education and healthcare for everyone

nairalanda1:
Most nigerians work in the informal sector, so this comment doesn't apply.

duh!!! How does this change the fact that nigerians who pay tax do so…
Informal sector pple are small earners…every country has them, you get either little or nothing from them……So whats your point??

My point is those who py tax are in millions…..
currently…..that ddnt make the govt do right… so ur point that many more millions of people paying more will make govt do right is just lies…
In formal sector pple are poor folks.. how do u expect them to demand their right from a heavily protected corrupt leaders who shoot and imprison citizens for demanding for their right??

nairalanda1:
The Nigerians on social media mostly come from those who do pay a income tax. Majority don't pay an income tax, and even those who complain are a minority.

u dont even have the figure for how much govt earns from taxes…. U just just try to justify you lies and ur support for corrupt officials by assuming those who pay tax are next to zero

nairalanda1:
(Also, to be cynical, those who complain always stop complaining when their side wins, then they become defensive. That's why you think I work for the government, natch?)

Why wont they stop….. the system is rigged against the masses from top to bottom… u complain on media govt threatens you… u complain by protesting on the streets, u get shot or arrested for treason because u are automatically treated as opposition party…

See..u are not facing reality…u just talk like u are making mockery of the situation..

nairalanda1:
And as a result you gave up.

You think that revolutions are won in a day, dontcha?

are u not a nigerian?? When have u ever been part of revolution except coming here to to support putting more money in the pocket of corrupt officials who sponsor you…

nairalanda1:
I do, m'lord, I do.

Im not ur lord……carry your mockery else where…
If u do……u will know corrupt leaders do not only deny pple their right by stealing money, they also deny pple their right by manipulating justice …..where are all the corruption fighters since 1960?? They are dead and some in prison….
Sowore is constantly locked up and sued and you pple join them to mock him…

is kanu still able to fight for the right of his pple… has this govt not denied him justice and thrown him prison for life…..
u dont talk based in existing realities because U are a sponsored propagandist, and thats why u are making a mockery of Nigerians to pay money for corrupt leaders to steal…..

Subsidy that has been removed since 3years ago is what u came to open thread to further justify…. Shior!!

nairalanda1:
Paying more taxes would make people more focused on dealing with government corruption like you...and that's a good thing.

This is a stvpid reason to pay tax….u dnot sound inteIIigent at all….u sound like on of those corrupt leaders who tell nigerians to give their lands to fulani for peace..

Besides ..many nigerian pay taxes from companies to thousands of working nigerians, so ur points is just a bunch of garbage…..corrupt government are corrupt to manipulate justice… all nigerians have is social media to complain…. And many have been arrested and even attacked for doing so… so carry you sponsored propaganda away from here

nairalanda1:
So, was i looking for excuses back in 2011, mr gej supporter?




The trobule with Nigerian subsdies is that they are funded from oil revenue, which, assuming no stealing and no corruption is too too limited to fund anything adequately. I mean, even when we were producing 2.3 million barrels per day back in 2012, the then government was pointing out via some officals , that the revenue was not enough.

That's why I scream on this site that our governments should consider industrialization as the basis of our economy. THAT may even provide enough money for some form of subsidy. That may even make us prosperous enough to pay some form of subsides without it hurting us

But no government has been willing to make the hard choices since 1960 to make us that nation, which is why you and I are even having this discussion.



The scary thing is that 500 billion naira to pay for subsides...may not be enough for one month's worth of subsidy payments.

Subsidy costs for october 2023-feb 2024 were between 800-900 billion naira, and that was at 300 naira per liter. Now? A month's subsidy would cost around 1.5 or more trillion naira.

What you are calling for is a drop in the ocean of what is actually needed...

And that's assuming that the subsides you want would bring down prices to just N800 or less.


You've just described nigerian economics of the past 60 years or more.

Again u are comedian justifying corruption by telling nigerian to pay more

nairalanda1:
Well, I could do with a new tablet though..


SO they should give up at the first arrest? No wonder you guys never see any change...


LOL, and you think that because i support subsidy removal, I support the criminal reforms of elections of this government? That i support certificate forgers taking office? That if it happens, our country would get into more trobule? Seriously man, you should calm down.

I've even been a supporter of electronic voting since 2007 self. I had some doubts recently about telco ability to sort out the problem, until the telcos said they could support electronic voting and transmission of result...away went my doubts.


LOL, that's why you have to

1.get your senator to pass laws allowing for such compensation
2. Pay for tolls on the road, so that government is forced to maintain them, or risk being thrown out.
3. vote for obi or anyone that is not APC In 2027.
4. Agitate , agitate, agitate for change.


Looks like you have given up already, son. Don't do that.

U are a comedian plus a hypocrite supporting govt in disguise
U dont talk talk based on existing realities

nairalanda1:
1.The looting is why I want more nigerians to pay more in tax, with the rich paying higher tax rates, which is going to force people, most people to pay attention to what their government isdoing...and that has a bad effect on looterocracy
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What is the matter with you??
Look around you…. The govt empowers its officials with the law…
when nigerians protest.. they are either shot or arrested for treason….
Laws are used to bypass process…someone just approved electoral reforms that limits the possibility of making certificate forgers pay for their crimes..

…if u have an accident because of potholes abroad, u can sue the govt and get compensation…here in nigeria u cant sue for anything….Ur case wont even reach hearing because the third arm of government has been bribed with 8billion mansions in abuja

So how exactly are the people supposed to demand for their right after being robbed and still paying more to be robbed some more?? Baba Its obvious u are sponsored agent.. there is no need conversing with you

nairalanda1:
(I'm not a government supporter, or advocate. Until 2011, I was pro-subsidy. my mind got changed in 2012).

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All u do is look for reasons and justify why govt shouldn't efficiently give the common wealth back to its citizens…..Nigerians are being robbed by the three arms of govt, so much that one judge is getting a mansion worth 5 billion in abuja after getting salary of well over 50million a year…

Subsidy is not rocket science….its the right of a citizens of any nation because its the only way the common wealth can truly get to everyone…

If the govt pays 500billion to subsidize and it feels it cannot afford to pay that amount, the govt can pay lesser and push some of the burden on the people… but not paying any subsidy is robbery….

How can a father complain his child tuition, health care, cost of feeding, etc is too much that he cannot be borrowing pay… then. instead of looking for something lesser he can afford he decides no stop paying all together and use the money to marry wives and do owambę party…. Does that make any sense to you??

car dealers be like…..
First body
Just fix to your taste
Ac leaking….

reddingtonblack:
if i were you i will be more worried where i land, than think of "fee" ciao

Sigh… i was referring to you cos u are the one jumping into conclusions….so why should i be worried about where i land….

reddingtonblack:
You misconstrue my comment earlier, you set the trend maybe i followed

I asked simple question .... What appointment does Tinubu have that is better than being a Governor of OYO ??

What money could SEYI need that he is so bitter n crying because Tinubu did not give ??

Someone has to answer those questions 1st before we begin that job ... makinde is a bitter because Tinubu did not give him anything

You jumped on my comment saying Politicians always want something, meaning you agree with the OP of this thread ... So i ask again what can Tinubu give Makinde that he doesnt have Help me see it

Baba….jumping into conclusions is free

reddingtonblack:
i will get you wrong because it sounded like you only read the insults and left the real message, i never said one politician is a saint or righteous .. What infuriated me is this narrative from Tinubu camp to always demonize anyone that disagrees with Tinubu ...he is bitter, he did not get appointment, Tinubu did not give him money nii is preposterous is Tinubu GOD

TINUBU left AD is ogas there, who branded him oda lé, he is bitter ni and make up all kinds of shitty story

I dint get u.. where in my comment djd i present a narrative about demonising anyone who disagree with tinubu….. u are using pples comment to respond to me…u ddnt even get the context of my first comment….:
abeg…carry your negative energy go another place

reddingtonblack:
BRO ! lets be reasonable i asked a simple question ... SEYI is a sitting governor of OYO state, have you seen there IGR

So, what Post or Money can Tinubu give Makinda that you feel Seyi will gladly resign as governor run to Abuja to be what ??

Dont you guyz fvcking think, is it difficult to think

what can Tinubu give Seyi Today that he does not have .. start from there

U cannot even pass across ur point without insult….insults doesnt make ur point sit well….it just makes u look desperate…

Have u seen the IGR of rivers state…. Did Wike not lobby …??
Was oshimole not a former gov….did he retire with all he has stolen….??Same for gbenga daniel…

The life of most politician, except few of them, is a wasteful one…..thats why they leave governors sit and cross to another office so the free national money continue…

Dont get my comment wrong…weda. seyi wants office from tinubu is not really my business…I'm just telling you how shameless politicians are and will do anything to remain in public office where they can get free money

reddingtonblack:
Even though i Accept, All politicians are selfish and always fighting for personal interest, what Adeyanju alledged on Makinde is laughable and makes no sense

What is Special about FCT minister anyways, is a promotion from an elected governor to a appointed 2nd class governor of FCT, that can be removed with mere words

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U dont realise that politicians have no shame..:
Anything to make them remain stealing money in a public office is carry go for them…..

osazsky:
The falling president he don go wear oversized coat again o...abeg when it eventually happens pls use ur head knack slab

You are wicked…..

This one and his father has turned presidency to family throne… in what capacity is this one speaking to nigerians…..

kunle4toyeyaho:
Talk is indeed cheap.

Lol… its my talk thats cheap?? not your politicians who promised yall hope but robbed ur common wealth…. APC brain washing is amazing

Its only a matter of time…… ur eyes will open…. Yall supported buhari more than this…

kunle4toyeyaho:
If he had sat down before removing the subsidy,he wouldn't have been able to do so.
So, you were expecting Tinubu to continue selling our crude in advance to pay for fuel subsidy and defend Naira? Some of you need to enroll for elementary economics.
Do you think any reasonable investor would bring his money into our oil sector if government still dictates the pump price through subsidy payment? We complain there is no job opportunities and at the same kicking against a policy that can make Nigeria attractive to a potential investor.

Yall keep trying to present non-subsidy payment as good thing without showing the real benefits on the people…
… it is not sir…. Its just robbery of nigerians in disguise…

Yes…We no longer pay subsidy…but what exactly is the advantage apart from the executive legislature and judiciary living fatter than before…

Subsidy need not be removed, govt just needed to pay what it can afford without borrowing…

. And my reason is simple….subsidy is the only way to guarantee the masses are enjoying something from their common wealth…. From UK to australia, to sweeded, to any sane country… if the national wealth is not put into what everyone benefits from.. the outcome will always be monumental embezzlement

Now… the executives and other officials have too much to money to play with thats why someone is building 8 billion naira worth of mansion for judges …

franchasng:
Last last na these Gen Z redpill guys go cause the real world war III not Trump, not Iran and its Islamic terrorist regime


Ladies abeg oh make una wake up oh, Gen Z guys no be we Millenials that love paying bills even when we no chop

Baba… you asslick too much…
Its not even attractive to women… they only like to take advantage of it

Corporate2020:
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So Judges should be living in Face Me - I Face You apartment while Yahoo boys, Fake Pastors and Ploticians are living in Mansions. You go cry tire

What is the matter with you pple…. Do u know how much federal judges earn?? No judge lives in face me i face you… the way u pple support your oppressors is weird….
They rob u of your common wealth and share it among themselves, yet you rush to make excuses for them…

Una dey try ooooo

FashionCookie:
Abeg make we hear word.
Only online will you guys come online and make noise. I know of ladies with the so called dirty and broke that men marry every other day.
Like, they even pamper and take care of them. Abeg make una no annoy me.

Wetin dey vex you now….??
On top this small advice ??

But u pple advise each other not to marry broke men

Freshtruth:
Is better we continue with Tinubu for continuity at least we are heading to somewhere rather than try obi or atiku experiment. The devil u know is far better than. The angel you don't know . Me am not tinubu supporter but Nigerians should use their brains when casting their votes next year. Wisdom they say is profitable to direct. Don't make the mistake of 2015

Lol…. Strange pple everywhere …… u pple have run out of lies that tinubu has done excellently well??
…. Now the reason is nigerians should just vote for a devil because there is no point trying an angel….:

Why dont u just add that tinubu should rule forever since continuing with the devil is the only option……

# werey dey disguise

sexybol:
Baba you don dey talk off point as usual

If you nor get wetin to talk…. Nor be by force….
Una nor go read…. Una go just enter convo from middle dey talk like person wey get schizophrenia

Image123:
Ask your mentors, the US. i cannot force you to be reasonable.

Please how did US enter the conversation… ??go back and check our dialogue history… u are the one who repeatedly brought the US into the issue to justify ur fraudulent mentality

Image123:
Ask your mentors, the US. i cannot force you to be reasonable.

Hahahahhaha…. …..you who wants fraudulent elected officials to enjoy a short window by which they can be exposed for fraud is saying he wants another person to be reasonable….

The irony is nauseating….

Image123:
A president is a president na, whether elected or sitting i didn't specify. It simply makes sense to sort out those issues pre-election than after.

If we can bring evidence later to prove a prisoner is not guilty so they can gain their freedom…. Why cant we do same for hidden or covered up evil……
Why do u think this is okay for a presidential or elected office but not okay for any other office or job??

Image123:
No one is saying that you shouldn't sort out the issues or that you should forge documents. What we are saying is that there should be order and time for everything.

i ask again why do u think fraudulent elect official should be left to enjoy their fraudulent victory even after being exposed… but u dont think same should apply to a fake doctor who started practicing medicine with falsified university certificates?? Baba u are just a hypocrite with double standards

Image123:
That's why it's called REFORM, an attempt to improve.

This is not an improvement.. this is a loophole to make it possible for forgery to thrive and put a limit on the possibility of being exposed...i do not see any benefit in it order than encouraging those who want to falsify documents to improve their profile …

Image123:
They've looked at the past and probably looked around other democracies. Democracy is about the will of the people, not primarily about courts.

lol… U lie…. In nigeria…. Democracy is about rigging, vote buying, ballot snatching and violence.. and yes…. these activities are done by fraudulent contestants so ur point holds no water……

Image123:
Tribunals are to try to make sure that the will of the people/majority prevails. They are charged with checking if there was cheating or rigging IN the election.

There are many angle to an election like i mentioned….pretending its just the will ofnthe people here in nigeria is just lies..
if it is just about the will of the pple…. Lets just shout online and let the person with the biggest supporters be sworn in….
But no.. we spent billions to organise a well established election with documents required.. then u are here introducing fraudulent technicalities after requirement has been established… shiorr

Image123:
They shouldn't be the ones to solve your past village problems.

what does this even mean?? , u are very dishonest in your submission trying to water down established documentation required before elections….:how can u liken documents required for contesting to village problems?? Conversation with you is becoming nauseating …

Image123:
No one has made fraud unchallengeable.

lolbut thats what you are trying to establish…. what is being done here is creating limitation in exposing fraud…. Whats worse is that its a fresh fraud yet u want limitations to be applied even before swearing in…. Baba.. yall are the dame with your corrupt leaders
….

Image123:
When i said forgery, i clearly explained it as an ACCUSATION. Accusing someone is different from conviction or disqualification. Point is, make your accusations before the elections, not after. Under the Constitution of the United States, removing a president is intentionally difficult to prevent political instability. That's why you'd hardly see them having awkward election cycles.

Oga Oga……..there is a time lag of months btw elections and swearing in of an elected official……so this is not removing a sitting president…
.u are just introducing technicalities into a simple matter to justify allowing an official who fraudulently gained access to office remain there……

Image123:
In your company illustration again, both parties have usually agreed to verification and consequences. If there's no such agreement, the company can be sued, that's law for you. You can't sack people for whatever reason without compensation, except you both agreed. That's how the law works.

Isnt it clear that agreement is what you pple are bypassing with electoral reforms… have u seen a company remove its right to be able to challenge fraudulent employees…??

Why will any system, a national one for that matter introduce what makes fraud more unchallengeable ?? there is no where in the world this is seen as normal..….?? Thats the system being fraudulent to allow fraud….