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popizaino:
Goodness me!!!

For we the younger generation that didn't see landrup play but saw his highlights, pls will it be blasphemy to he was as good as Zidane or probably better?

Hmmm. He probably was technically as good as Zidane, maybe better. He was the best passer i ever saw, maybe the best ever.

Zidane though was a big game performer and a scene stealer. He usually rose to the occasion when the chips were down.

The way France collapsed when he was injured or retired and then resurrected when he came out of retirement gives you an idea of how much he influenced the outcome of matches.

In 2006 when he was about to retire he still had enough in his arsenal to embarrass the best talent that Spain, Brazil etc could offer.

So even if an argument can be made that Laudrup was better, Zidane was definitely greater.

larride:
Happy birthday to me.

Happy Birthday Larride.
LLNP

chic2pimp:
Which player would you have left out had you been in Cruyff's shoes?

As a Laudrup fan it pains me to say i might have still done what Cruyff did.
4 world class players, all time greats really.

However at that time Stoichkov and Romário were 2 of the very best players in the world, and had a sweet thing going scoring goals.

It was really between Koeman and Laudrup.
Koeman’s ability on the ball as a ball playing CB meant he was very crucial in the way they played and there really was no like for like sub for him.

Laudrup’s creativity in midfield could be partially replaced by Spaniards like José Mari Bakero, Amor, and Begiristain. And those ones were also more hardworking ( but never as creative in a million years).

chic2pimp:
Cruyff and Laudrup also had dressing room problems which only came to light at the end of the season.

Yup but the main reason Laudrup left to join Real was the fact that Cruyff repeatedly chose Koeman, Stoitchkov, and Romario as his foreign 3.

Laudrup switched to Real and won the league the very next season with them

Leyqute:
Afrodoc you be ogbontarigi. I hail you o.

I remember watching a review of serie A game weeks on TV in the mid 90s. And they weren’t live.

Yup they weren’t.

Italian Seria A on TV had a match that was shown (abridged) and then round up of all the other games.
Same with Football Made in Germany.

But there was the option of cable esp for French league, EPL, La liga.

Then there were video clubs that had most of the top games on tape.

It was not easy but for crazy fans like us we hunted football wherever it was.

The relative lack of availability of foreign sports media and the lack of foreign opportunities for Nigerian players made our local league popular though.

raumdeuter:
Those times, you dont know that we go to video club to rent recorded matches of football. The 1996 final I didnt watch live na only recorded video tape I watch

Lol I didn’t even see this before I replied to Nihilist.
Truly your head dey there.
Nihilist na real indomie generation. Only that e sabi book. Lol

nihilistjnr:
The way all you people used to 'watch' these matches sef.

In an era where it was just Channel 5, Channel 10, and Channel 7. TV stations didn't start broadcasting till 4pm on a weekday, and there was no internet. Viewing centres hadn't even been invented.

Mehn you guys are the real MVPs. There was no need for them Mitchell Obi and Larry Izamoje then.

There was already cable in the early 90s.

There was football made in Germany on TV

There was Italian Serie A on TV

LTV 8 with Nwana Iwajoku and later Ayo Agbesanwa had a Saturday sports program. That’s were I watched the 1988 FA Cup between Liverpool and Fashanu’s Wimbledon on delayed transmission.

NTA 5 had Sports spectacular by Chuka Momoh where you might watch a Euro 84 or Euro 88 game on replay, or a grand slam tennis match (Chuka being a tennis guy), or a boxing bout between Hearns, Hagler Leonards etc.

Then there were a few video clubs then where you could rent taped league matches from the main leagues in Europe.

Kimbeast:
That was a Barca side consisting of koeman,Romario and Stoichkov. Barca were playing the sexy football and were definitely favourites going into the match. Meanwhile Milan were also severely weakened for the final as van basten, baresi, brian laudrup, costacurta, and JP papin couldn't play.
Yet, they annihilated barca in probably the most dominant final performance of the Champions league Era.

Greatest shock possibly in UEFA Champs League final history.

Baresi and Costacurta suspended.

Papin, Brian Laudrup could not play because of the 3 foreigner limit rule.

Lentini not recovered from his horrific car accident. He never did fully recover anyway.

Van Basten also injured and to retire I believe at the end of that season.

Then on the Barca side Cruyff deciding not to field Michael Laudrup cos of the same 3 foreigner limit rule.

weedtaker:
See why I tell you he's overrated? just wait them go begin tell you about how basten no sabi do step overs and no get dribbling skills, how he played in a better team, and how he hasn't won the world cup.

as in. Wtf is "Pure no.9" ? the others na un-pure?

Nihilist and several others were smart enough to recognize i was excluding CR7 and Messi from the debate because they are not your prototypical CF.

For those who are a little slow cognitively i meant apart from Messi and CR7, DeLima is the greatest forward in modern football.

sod09:
what about Marco van basten
Now I'm comparing these 2

Better comparison.
Van Basten was more complete. I don’t think he had a weakness on the pitch. Was unlucky at major national competitions apart from Euro 88 BUT he owned the leagues and European Cup.
R9 was better though.
These 2 are at the upper echelon of strikers. They are all time greats.

Kimbeast:
I think A.c Milan once won the league scoring just 36goals lol.
It's truly Amazing how Milan once had a team with 5 all-time greats — Van Basten, Gullit (a bit of a stretch as his competitors in the all-time pool are literally the greatest, but he was such a unique player), Rijkaard, Baresi and Maldini.

That was the work of Fabio Capello. One of the reasons why i don’t really like him, too negative.

He bought a world class central defender like Desailly and put in defensive midfield to play in front of a defence that was already probably the greatest ever seen. At the same time benching flair/attacking players like Savicevic, Gullit etc that he considered defensive liabilities.

They didn’t score goals but they didn’t concede either. About 10 teams scored more than them, yet they won the league.

sod09:
So only de Lima was attack with injuries, people will just use injury as excuse.
We can as well say injury slow van basten down

You are my guy so i will just start by giving you some advice. With the same hands that you used to type that you were too young to judge between Del Piero and Totti because it was before your time you are now typing that Aguero and Suarez are better than De Lima.

De Lima that played same era as Del Piero is not before your time but Del piero is before your time? And you think you will make heaven like this?

You then compounded your sins by comparing R9 to Aguero and Suarez who are not more than a poor man's Romario.

If you took Romario and removed a good deal of his skill and some of his acceleration you will get Aguero.

Comparing Aguero to R9 only confirmed your first statement on this matter; It was before your time, and you know nothing about this issue John Snow.

sod09:
aguero and suarez matched what ever ronaldo ever did

honorable mention: zlatan

Agüero and Suarez?
You got jokes.

A40:
That might well be true but he has always kept us relevant. Aside Pete Carroll with the Seahawks and of course Bill Belichick there has not been a more consistent team. Big Ben and Mike Tomlin are two wins away from being the 3rd highest winning coach-QB combo of all-time. We've never had a losing season since he became coach. Not 1!

His issue is always being a player's coach, like the cool dad that doesn't know when to be the friend/guy and when to be the father. Thankfully the cancerous elements have been cut off and we would see a hungrier team this year

Yeah that might be his problem. He looks and talks tough but he is a bit of a softie.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the Steelers but at a point in time one has to expect more than just winning seasons based on the wealth of talent he has had at his disposal.

Roland17:
Individual Honors

Del Piero:

UEFA Champions League Top Scorer 1997-1998

Serie A Top Scorer 2007-2008

2x Italian Footballer of the Year 1998, 2008


F. Totti:

European Golden Boot 2006-2007

Serie A Top Scorer 2006-2007

2x Serie A Footballer of the Year 2000, 2003

5x Italian Football of the Year 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007

Euro 2000 MOTM

Del Piero:

457 appearances; 198 goals for Juventus

91 appearances; 27 goals, 7 assists for Italia


F. Totti:

443 appearances; 192 goals for A.S. Roma

58 appearances; 9 goals, 23 assists for Italia

It is not even close when you dissect the numbers because Totti matched, doubled or tripled any record Del Piero has. So what are we even talking about here?

http://www.legaseriea.it/en

Now saying it was not even close is where you go overboard.
Totti lasted longer and was more versatile, and Del Piero had a better peak level.
I wouldn’t argue with either personally, but saying Del Piero was better and its not close or Totti was better and its not close is just untrue.

raumdeuter:
afrodoc2, Who do you think was the better player, Totti or DelPiero?

Sorry just seeing this, had to sleep.

Totti had longevity of career and was able to adapt his game as he got older.
Sheer talent, genius, and absolute best level I would give it to DelP whose career was derailed by niggling injuries.

raumdeuter:
Una wey get sharp eyes for here make una decode am ni, Someone said its Kroos but I am not sure

https://j.gifs.com/4Q4qw7.gif

It’s Beckham.

Right age, right country, mentioned Bobby Charlton Soccer Schools.

raumdeuter:
Una wey get sharp eyes for here make una decode am ni, Someone said its Kroos but I am not sure

https://j.gifs.com/4Q4qw7.gif

English boy born in the late 70s or latest 1980.

Mark Hughes n Lineker were at Barca in late 80s


P.S still looks like Beckham to me.

Those that are still in love with Lukaku can port to Inter Milan if they so desire.
He is no longer a United player and should not take up too much space on a United thread.

A40:
Let me also reiterate. The league is not ready for Juju Smith and James Washington this season

The coach talks a big game, looks the part, and of course has the ring to back it up but I am starting to doubt the man. He has wasted so juicy looking rosters over the last few seasons.

[quote author=elrony post=81651692][/quote].

I am just glad i don’t have to weekly watch the ball bounce off Lukaku’s boot like an empty tin of Peak milk again.

snrman:
Serial A moi moi league imagine

Yes. Take away Juve and maybe Napoli you have mainly wretched teams there. How many years running have Juve been champions now? How well have the other teams performed in the champions league?

The league where Ciro Immobile will score 20 plus goals then go to score 2 goals in Germany and Spain is a moi moi league.

The league where old man pensioner Quagliarella is top scorer is a moi moi league.

Lol is it until Lukaku goes scoreless for the whole Serie A season before we can say selling him was a good move.
So now he has scored 1 goal it was a mistake to sell him abi?

I said it here before his debut that the slow paced Serie A would actually favour him.
His atrocious touch won’t matter as much over there. That league is a moi moi league anyway but that’s not to take away anything from Lukaku who I hope succeeds there.

He is no longer a United player so please his fans should spare us the Lukaku alerts.

sod09:
Only a matter of time before the law caught up with him too bad we don't know his miserable ugly face when he appear on front page,just imagine personal hustle no remorse at all. Lazy useless thief

There is no hope for Nigeria. Look at the kind of youths that abound in the country. This guy is just one from many, only that he was brave (or stupid) enough to air his putrid mindset.

No conscience, no remorse, no self awareness.

It seems Crystal Palace moved Zaha to the right to play against Shaw.

Norwich are relegation contenders.
That defence na ashewo defence.

This Norwich defence is actually very poor.
Chelsea should be winning this easily.

10 kobo sense Barkley no get.

I would (not) love to see a CB partnership of Zouma and Smalling.
A sight to make eyes sore.

Pukkiman Monster!

Pukki ti ki si o!