₦airaland Forum

disloman:
Do you really know what subsidy means?How much were barrel of cruel oil sold during the occupy Nigeria?Were the previous government sincere?Please if you know what happened,you ask questions.

Tell me what you think subsidy mean sir and we will start from there

disloman:
The supplementary budget is for the subsidy incurred between sep 2014-sep 2015.

Are you sure you are not lying? It included October to December...See below

The senate has approved the supplementary budget of President Muhammadu Buhari, increasing it from N465 billion to N574 billion to cover fuel subsidy claims. While presenting the supplementary appropriation bill on Tuesday, Danjuma Goje, chairman of the senate committee on appropriations, explained that the initial amount budgeted for the settlement of subsidy claims only covered the period from[b] January to September. Goje said it was important to include October to December in the budget in order to avert scarcity of fuel.
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Read more at: https://www.thecable.ng/just-in-senate-approves-fgs-n574bn-budget

chalerea:
That has been paid to marketers. It was used to settle a debt of what GEJ was owing.

No, it included the subsidy till Dec. Check my cable link on this thread

[quote author=989900 post=41407149][/quote]Why did you cancel the post? You have no answer for it?

989900:

ATEOTD, GEJ's administration partially removed fuel subsidy (N65 to N97).

Now, where are the gains?

Where are the palliatives promised?

What happened to SURE-P?

What happened to the reserves?

What happened to ECA?

What happened to the cabals?

Where are the buses NOI canvassed about?

How can you trust kleptomaniacs that bought how many jets in 4 years, or a president that eats with N3m/day?

How do you buy the story that subsidy payments went from N300B per annum to N2,000B (N2T) or more, without the connivance of our 'ogas' at the top?!




OTOH, it is easier to remove it now 'cause, we go from N87 to N85 per litre (and I believe it could probably be cheaper) . . . if the Naira were still in the N155/$ range, even with the subsidy removal, pump price should be in the N50-N60/litre range (give or take).

We argued all these during the election. You have won so stop all the excuses and perform. GEJ reduced the price from 97 to 87 when oil price was $70/barrel. The price is half of that, why remove only N2 naira?

Why did you not allow him to remove the subsidy thing 3 years ago?

Well Buhari's meal per day if I follow your argument is far more than 3m/day

All of you have been resuscitated by the Aso Rock dinner and envelope.

If you don't know what happened to ECA, ask your governors
If you do not know what happened to the sure-P check the internet. I explained a lot on it and trust me you are still living on the lies you were fed to dethrone GEJ when even Fashiola has confirmed that GEJ built more roads than any other president in the past, in fact all the presidents put together. You are here asking about what happened to sure-P

Even Amaechi has commissioned one of the numerous rail project from the past administration. He hypocritically said he never knew rails were functional in Nigeria just like you were meant to understand GEJ was a failure and you sit inside your room to accept it is true.

billyG:
Newspaper cutout my foot!Is publicly smoking marijuana not breaking d law,fela loves to dear d law.

lol

vedaxcool:
Neither me, sorry for your loss. We know dasukigate regime sweet unah die!

Why is the Presidency budget jacked up by 15 billion?

GEJ comfortably ran the Aso Rock with 24 billion. Your good man needs 39 billion. Any reason?

Lets calculate how much it will take to host bloggers and other social media attack dogs.

How many do you think 15 billion can take care of?

vedaxcool:
Sir, in your state rest is encouraged i urge you to rest and avoid needless hassle.

That is how APC guys sound when they have nothing to say about a topic. They start making personal comments.
It does not get to me sir.

How was the party?

jayriginal:
Issues are never that simple, unless you are talking to someone in kindergarten.

You can't discuss Oby in this context without bringing in extraneous factors.

Again I state boldly that Nigeria stood behind Joe until it became clear that he was a rudderless ship. Nigeria stood behind him while Turai oppressed him. Don't make it a personal issue. It's not about me or you.

Nigeria stood behind him to take the power from Turai. Whoelse should they have stood behind? Turai?

The support ended after the election. The northerners wanted power back. lol

I was taught how to write essay and stick to the topic. There so much to talk about Oby and his BBOG. if you cannot stick to the topic, I cannot talk with you.

vedaxcool:
I once again apologize for the hurt you might be going through due to the loss suffered, while I might not know what it means to lose big and be left out of aso rock parties, from a humanitarian perspective I feel truly sad you are still experiencing pains related to your loss. Please take it easy, they say the downfall of a man is not the end of his life.

Naa, such punches are not for me. So you should reserve it for those who it will mean a lot to.

Am I pained? Yes! Why because the gains this country has made have been reversed and i am sure more will be.

1. The most painful is that independence we were getting from the west has been reversed. I am not sure you will understand this. The issue of raw material initiative in relation to local content, PIB and Euro-Africa trade deals are among the things that are painful when I remember this new stuge and the cabinet that know little to nothing about international politics and trade.

2. The automotive policy did not go down well with the US. Now the first thing the new government announced was a reversal of the component of the policy that has to do with restriction through increased tariff. That's enough to drive away the investors.

These among other things are my pains and not your chicken and stew party

How was the party?

jayriginal:
Nigerians did give Jonathan time. He had ample time before Nigerians became disillusioned.

Secondly some people have always supported deregulation and removal of the subsidy. Corruption has always been the issue. SURE P anyone?


Lastly, again I can't presume to speak for Oby and neither can you. If you decide to read her mind for her, I'm also at liberty to profer what I feel she is doing.

What time? You never gave him any time. He never did anything right. Many turned against him because of the subsidy thing and APC exploited it. Sure-P did a lot.
I told you to create a thread if you want to discuss anything outside two faced Oby. You don't know how to discuss one subject or you always want to put a distraction?

It is OBY here my friend.

I need to go for work out tomorrow. Good night! Stop defending hypocrisy except you are a hypocrite

vedaxcool:
Sorry for your loss sir.

Can you answer that question? I lost nothing. Nigeria lost because we have a man who does not know his right from his left. All he knows now is how pursue his enemies.

Nigeria lost!!!

BTW how was the Aso rock rice party?

bettercreature:
There are over 1000 reasons to trust the only saint we have in NIGERIA in PMB,we might finished Nairaland bandwitts if i have to start stating everything so i think you should try google,beside i wasnt at the party i'm not a paid goon

Your saint?

150 cows in 2011, 150 cows in 2015 and then 270 cows
1 house in kaduna and one in Katsina before election, after election more than 5 houses identified
1 million in bank in March, 30 million in June

Saint in deed. Don't swear for him with your dck if you still have need for it otherwise you could be turned to a eunuch

jayriginal:
Perspectives!

You call it the truth cos it resonates with you. It resonates with you because of your political leanings.

Again I will remind you that I can't speak for Oby, but it is reasonable to give the government time, just as Jonathan was given time by Nigerians.

Now I am certain that you didn't vote for Buhari. I make bold to say that people who voted for Buhari didn't do so because of the promises they made. Perhaps those who were getting their first voters cards did so. Seasoned voters know that getting politicians to fulfill their promises is like fetching water in a basket.

It goes to show how fed up Nigerians were with the status quo that they chose a Buhari with his documented record of governance. That alone speaks volumes.

Is it too much to give him time to fail (as he is likely to do)?

When I was young, my mom would say, "if someone asks you to put your hand in the fire would you put it? "

Same thing here. If Buhari said he would do this and that would you just take it?

If Oby has decided to keep quiet it may be because she wants to give the government time. If that's the case, I think it's reasonable.

If you cannot speak for Oby, then leave Oby to answer her case.

Dont come here to tell me that someone who said she is leaving the social media, the instrument she used to harass GEJ's govt with BBOG and campaign for Buhari is like giving this government time. The girls have not been found. It is being economical with the truth.

Nigerians did not give GEJ any time. They fired at him from the word go. The 2102 protest was one of the worst and thank God you are all supporting the removal subsidy. That shows the two faced nature of the protest.

bettercreature:
Just trust this government and everything is going to be [b]automatically [/b]okay! not manual trust me

Automatically OK. As in I will become a zombie as many of the die hard fans that see nothing wrong in the anomaly and lies from the pit of hell?

Everything will be automatically OK like I will not be worried that EFCC and DSS are flouting court orders?
Everything will be OK and I will not worried that I buy fuel at high price even when money was made available for December subsidy?

bettercreature:
Just trust this government and everything is going to be automatically okay! not manual trust me

Tell me why I should trust this government? BTW were you at Aso Rock for the rice party?

vedaxcool:
To get the answers to your question sir, you should use the FOI to get a copy of the budget being discussed. Speculations here is a waste of time and a sign of dishonesty and indecency caped with mischief.

Hahahaha

Did you use the FOI to get the content of 1 billion Aso Rock feeding budget before slating GEJ?

bettercreature:
Fuel will cost 85naira from january ist,We have signed some contract with foreign companies to buy crude oil and sell back to us without any string attached,soon as the first shipment arrive,you will feel the full force of CHANGE

I will be happy. The same thing that happened in 1984 march. Buhari was the first to sign an agreement with PetroBras to export crude to be refined and subsequently imported.

I so much hope his body language would resuscitate the refineries. So easy to criticize.

vedaxcool:
Decency and decorum demands you act in accordance with human decency, if you feel so strongly about the budget please avail yourself a copy and make allegations based on the content of the budget not speculate or fabricate whatever suits your fancy. I expect you will act accordingly and follow human decency.

Sir, what do you have to say about the 15 billion jack up in the total sum? We will talk about the feeding when it is out as it will sure come out.

What[b] do you have to say about your good man jacking up the cost of running Aso Rock by 15 billion?[/b] Did they include the cost of monthly or annual meeting with social media change agents?

vedaxcool:
Decency and decorum demands you act in accordance with human decency, if you feel so strongly about the budget please avail yourself a copy and make allegations based on the content of the budget not speculate or fabricate whatever suits your fancy. I expect you will act accordingly and follow human decency.

Sir, what do you have to say about the 15 billion jack up in the total sum? We will talk about the feeding when it is out as it will sure come out.

What[b] do you have to say about your good man jacking up the cost of running Aso Rock by 15 billion?[/b]

bettercreature:
Crude oil was 115$ as at then and fuel would have cost 140naira if subsidy was removed there by inflicting deadly harship on Nigerians and give GEJ more money to embezzled but now that the crude oil is sold 38$.Fuel will cost 85naira without subsidy,can you spot the difference now
So this is the right time to remove subsidy

Are you kidding me? Fuel will cost 85 naira where? They said they are not paying now. How much do you get a litre now? It is N140 in my area.

You occupied in 2012, so you are part of the problem and you have no right to talk. If the subsidy was removed in 2012, free market would have taken control now. The initial sufferings would have been over.

Look at you logic? It would have given GEJ more money to embezzle.....

jayriginal:
I did explain how he's being sentimental. It seems you want to be spoon fed. I can't do that please.

While I am not in Obys mind, I can say that even if she continued the campaign, she would not expect any sort of result immediately (for reasons I outlined earlier). She would only continue for the sake of awareness, at least for the time being.

Why would you think I'm on the table as you put it? I can't have an opinion? Does that mean you are on the PDP table?

For the records, I have stated on this forum that Buhari is likely to fail. However it seems you people want him to fail so you can gloat. If Jonathan was here, things would probably be worse and certainly not better.

As Nigerians we need to join hands.

If we say Buhari is for the North only, the question is, from '99 to 2015, what did the southerners do for the country or for themselves.

It's almost similar to the Biafra agitators. They have their party APGA and it controls just one state. Compare with AD in the West and later ACN and now APC. APGA is the eastern party but they don't support their own and then they will turn round and claim marginalization.

APGA fielded Ojukwu and the Igbos didn't support him yet they will later claim marginalization.

Same thing here. Before we polarize ourselves, let's give people some time to work. To clean deep rot, everybody needs to buckle up.

Consider if you will, renovation of third mainland bridge. There was suffering for a while but at the end, things got better. You can't keep throwing money at short term measures.

Let's be objective please.

You did not explain anything. Someone said the truth and you called it sentimental and then you went ahead to sound emotional about how a government is new and yada yada...Who is playing with sentiment here?

We are holding people to their promises and time lines they gave.

2 months to end Boko
2 months to find the girls

BTW, we are not talking about Buhari here. We are talking about 2 faced Oby. Who stole her voice?

You know that the hope of rescuing the girls get slimmer with each passing day. With the campaign promise, we expected a marshal plan on assumption of office but neither Buhari not Oby has said anything reasonable about the girls that they used as campaign slogan. God is watching all deceivers.

bettercreature:
Don't want to inflict damages on you because of the new ban happy moderator

Damages kwa? because I said Ajegunle? Ok why are you not occupying against the removal of subsidy? Did you or did you not occupy in 2012? What was your position?

chidibond:
This was for previous debts. A free market is the way to go.

The senate has approved the supplementary budget of President Muhammadu Buhari, increasing it from N465 billion to N574 billion t[/b]o cover fuel subsidy claims. While presenting the supplementary appropriation bill on Tuesday, Danjuma Goje, chairman of the senate committee on appropriations, explained that the initial amount budgeted for the settlement of subsidy claims only covered the period from January to September. [b]Goje said it was important to include October to December in the budget in order to avert scarcity of fuel. The budget had pas

Read more at: https://www.thecable.ng/just-in-senate-approves-fgs-n574bn-budget

So it was not only for previous debt. What sayest thou?

chidibond:
This was for previous debts. A free market is the way to go.

You just realised that free market is the way to go? Did you occupy in 2012? What was your position?

vedaxcool:
But you are allowed to hide under speculation and make claims not supported by facts? So let me get u right, it makes sense for your inlaws to accuse you of infidelity and then demand transparency by providing video evidence to support their claims? Dude there is FOI why don't you avail yourself of the budget and make coherent claims backed by evidence instead of beer parlor gossips? That seems better don't it rather than this lazy opposition nonsense you are doing in which you state a figure from nowhere and ask to be proven wrong. Lazy and sloppy just as the pdp and dasukigate!

Are you not bothered that budget of the presidency is 15 billion larger? That is the point of this thread. The 1.75 billion is just added. All of a sudden you remember GEJ's FOI? I love it. Don't worry, the truth will be laid bare but I am sure you will not still believe it.

Why is the Budget of the presidency jacked up by 15 billion?

What about the supplementary appropriation meant for subsidy?

bettercreature:
We finally have a president

Why are you not occupying Ajegunle?

jayriginal:
It's a new govt. When the supposed incident happened the govt of the time was sleeping. If I remember correctly GEJ was dancing somewhere a day after the incident. It took the international community to respond before our govt did.

Now there has been a change of govt. Let's be honest. Nigeria has been used and abused. You can't expect the new govt to fix things so soon. We have been plundered and the old govt blundered. We aren't strangers to this country.

When Turai was oppressing Jonathan, a number of us protested, yours truly included. I published an article and criticized no less a personality than Richard Akinjide SAN! Vanguard published the article, opposite Dele Sobowale (where Kola Animashaun used to be).

The country was rooting for Jonathan and they gave him time to perform. It was when he proved to be clueless that things turned awry.

By contrast vitriol has been poured on Buhari before, during and after the elections. Give him a chance for heaven's sake.

We all know the country has been looted but the revelations have been disheartening. Can't you see the problems past rulers have cost us? Do you honestly think if Jonathan won the elections things will be Amy different?

Let's be objective.

You are the sentimental one here. You did not even explain how he is sentimental.

Address the issue and stop talking about government. What is stoping Oby from continuing with her campaign? Is he the new government? BTW, the new government promised to end BH in 2 months and find the girls. What effort are they making now?

What efforts have they made?

Stop the story of you have been looted. You're still being looted as we talk under Buhari. It wont stop but I know you won't see it because you are on the table.

We are talking about Oby, if you wanna talk about a deceptive government, create a thread and invite me.

Stop being sentimental!

macklef:
Bros, y are u using excel like dis na. I cant even comprehend ur headings.

Bro, I actually screen-grabbed the spread sheet which is locked. I could not expand anything. No be my own
manage am so

bettercreature:
Na their problem be that one! maybe na PMB put food on my table few min ago

lol

bettercreature:
I'm A die hard APC FAN but i must say that madam is a SCAM

Be careful, they will come for you oo/\

They will say you are never APC