killuminati: See your prick-sucking lips. How many hot d'icks you dey eat a week?
Do you have to abuse her? I think you can be civil. How can a reformer abuse women? The progressiveness of anyone that abuses sand shows no respect a woman is questionable
brainbox2014: It means that he has chosen to look beyond the emotional cloud of anger, hate and fear, by taking a deeper consideration of the motives of GMB and accepting the fact that it was the law that executed his father for a crime he actually did commit. For a man to support someone that made a decree that killed his father, that's not just because he has a forgiving spirit but because he painfully understands the actions of that government and has done a prognosis to infer that GMB will make a better leader. Meanwhile, one of the people he jailed during his time penned some thoughtful notes.
A question for you. If a man is accused of rapin a woman, will he escape jail because the woman has forgiven him? Her crying for him in the court will it save him if he is found guilty as charged? Look for another point.
brainbox2014: I agree with you sir and I share your emotional concerns. Let us think about this... the son of one of those killed by firing squad for drug trafficking during Buhari's regime recently came out to say he had forgiven him and will still support him. What does that tell you? Regarding the Ghanians, hatred is a personal choice. I have Ghanian friends. He never supported Boko Haram sir. He was against the war crimes committed in the North.
That the son of a victim endorsed Buhari does not make his action right. Does it?
He could be one of those people that in haste for a miracle.
You talked about a short period. 20 months as a dictator is a long time sir. He had no senate to seek approval from No House of Assembly to hold him to ransome His words were decrees that had immediate effect
He did what he wanted.
So 20 months in a military dictatorship is actually more than 48 months of a functional democracy especial when the house is against you. Do not give us that excuse because he would have achieved much if he wanted.
What do you have to say about going to the market to force people to sell at loss in the name of price control? Do you know how many businesses that closed shop because they would not sell 1 tin of milk they bought at N6 for N4 according to Buhari?
If you accuse GEJ of any crime, I will give you more than one similar crime by Buhari but if I tell you GEJ's achievements, you will not give me a similar achievement by Buhari. Open your eyes!
agabaI23: Yes by fixing price goods: You are as a business man bought a can of milk at the cost of N5, displays it in your shop and a customer comes in to ask for the price and you say N6 and he brandishes his military and you are under arrest. Why? The government price is N4 per can of milk. You are detained! That surely had a good effect on the economy. Do you the amount of money lost while he was controlling inflation by price fixing? Did that help the economy?
Oh no that is not true. Nigeria external debt increased from 5% of GDP in 1980 to 23% of GDP in 1985 Moser et al link above (p69).
You may wish to read Nwaobi's scholarly write up. See an excerpt - start from page 8
What Buhari did was to cut Government spending in line with austerity measure which Shagari had already lauched in 1982. You do not have to thank him for that.
Debt payment was carried out through reconciliation and this was initiated in 1983(Shagari) and completed by IBB administration in 1988. You cannot give him credit for that. Adesola It was not Buhari. BTW january 1984 to August 1985 = 20 months and not 18 months(1.5 years) as you claimed.
It was worse than it was when he came. At least you accepted 14.6% depreciation under a government controlled exchange rate programme that grossly over valued the naira. Shagari even faired better than him that aspect.
How will he do that? He did not tell how he will do any of those. It easy to say I will and I will but the problem is how to do that. Let him tell us my friend
For almost about one hour or more, eyes were glued to AIT yesterday and I must confess that PDP has really tried in their campaign against the opposition. After so many shots, this looks like one final lethal blow, except of course they are not done. Who can blame them? They have enriched themselves well enough to afford the airtime.
So that aside, let's react to the gist they threw in our faces yesterday. I'd give my honest opinion by listing the (1) Bad things he did (2) Good things that he did but have been painted in a bad light (3) Good things he actually did.
Bad things
1) Jailing some 'alleged' innocent politicians. 2) Jailing journalists and activists based on a decree he enacted. 3) Stepping on human rights in a bid to enforce change. No freedom of speech. Strikes were disallowed. Unions (like NMA, NANS) were proscribed. 4) Pardoning Shehu Shagari (his former boss) as he kept him in house arrest while he jailed others. 5) Suspension of the rail project (which I later found out was due to the fact that the money being used for the project was being borrowed and he was bent on paying off Nigeria's debt) 6) Disallowing Monarchs from travelling outside the country, an act many saw as a disrespect to traditional customs. 7) Chasing away illegal immigrants. The same is still done in developed countries though. You can't just reside in places like UK, US... without formal documentations and stuff.
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Summary: His brief military regime was a draconian rule that made life hot for many.
Good things painted bad
1) WAI: Enforcing discipline with regards to work, sanitation, conduct on roads. This was done the military way and swept Nigerians off their comfort zone. 2) His statement (as the commentary claimed to quote him, as there was actually no video of him saying that) that FG should stop killing his people (northerners) and that instead Boko Haram militants could be given amnesty like the Niger delta militants. Hold on, before you judge at surface value. Reports from Amnesty International and the satellite images that showed the devastation in Baga have collectively proved to us one thing: our soldiers killed thousands of innocent northern dwellers (some in very horrific ways) in the name of fighting insurgency. That was why US raised eyebrows about human rights violation in the North if you can still recall. So Buhari probably has a point but unfortunately the amnesty program that the FG tried didn't work. What he said, he said in good faith. 3) Attempted extradition of Umaru Dikko, one of Nigeria's most corrupt politicians as at then. The PDP in their documentary successfully painted the hilarious method through which Dikko was packaged in a suitcase that was labelled with a diplomatic pass..lol..and the embarrassment attached to the story, but here's the thing they never said...Umaru Dikko deserved to be jailed like the other thieves in his time. People steal little things and get punished severely, some even die. A public official steals billions and you empathise with him when he should have gotten a much more severe punishment. That says a lot in comparison about our justice system today. 4) Drug traffickers were killed. I don't even know why PDP are lamenting about this. In Ghana today, robbery attracts a death penalty and trust me, this law has reduced criminality there. In China, if a politician is caught looting funds or getting involved in any form of corruption, he or she will be executed. My opinion is simple, if you can't do without stealing or going against the law of the land, you can leave. You have nothing to fear if your hands are clean. PDP is simply appealing to the desire in people to be free to do as they like without laws to guide them, but we must not forget that unguided freedom comes at a cost.......CRIME!
Summary: He came to unsettle Nigerians from their relative comfort zones of indiscipline (@public places) and laziness (@work).... and this didn't really go down well with many people. Strict legislation dominates his idea of effective and progressive governance.
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Good things
1) Jailing corrupt politicians. That's a good thing for me except you're happy when people embezzle public funds. 2) Eradication of Jihadist group (Maitatsine). We've heard that several times but a few times from his critics.
Other good things they didn't mention in the video
3) 1 dollar = 2 naira... which sparked some irritation from the West. The oyinbos felt it was annoying for the currency of a black nation to be that strong. Foreign politics played a role in his removal later on, for obvious reasons. 4) Cleared the debts of the nation and refused to borrow from IMF despite serious urging from the external community. Part of the reason the rail project was 'suspended'. 5) Nigeria was processing her crude oil...and the price was stable. 6) He's a plain person that does what he says (good or evil). I'd rather deal with plain people than the hypocrites in the incumbent government. Even his political opponents can't take that away from him.
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Summary: He ruled roughly for about one and a half years and his major approach to transforming Nigeria from the state that the corrupt leadership of Shagari left it, was through laws. He believed that a lawless nation where people are just allowed to litter the streets, treat work with levity, loot public funds...etc., could not move forward.
That's my analysis. .(± feel free to add & subtract)
Just scanning through your response showed one obvious lie or a guess.
You said that the naira ration to dollar was N2=$1. You are wrong. it was 76k to $1 when he assumed office and it became 89k to $1 when he left, a depreciation of 17%.
Why won't the naira depreciate when he banned the entry of foreign currency creating scarcity so that a huge volume of naira was chasing the unavailable dollar.
Another lie is that he cleared the debt of the nation. Gush, who fed you this crap? I will come back with detailed report.
agabaI23: he came for my jugular and I defended myself with a central bank link
And the value there corresponds to your earlier value from Wikipedia. The authority of this overrides those from your newspaper articles. Do not try to make Buhari what he is not to score political point.
There were two 'policies' under Buhari which actually affected the exchange rate at the time.
1. The banning of foreign currency 2. The changing of the naira notes.
The first one devalued the naira because of the scarcity of the foreign currencies while the second one created scarcity of naira which should have increased the value of naira.
Both of these measures were artificial and were not sound economic policies. Unfortunately the effect of the second policy was not strong enough to counter the effect of stifled forex flow so the value of the naira kept depreciating.
There is no way you can explain that away.
The value of the naira when he took over was 0.72 to a dollar which you accepted and when he left office, it was 0.89. That was 36.4% depreciation from when he took over and he could not do anything about it with his draconian policies.
I support GEJ because he is the all round best amongst the lot. He has clear road maps which BB does not have except for his flawed claim to sainthood. I read through his Kaduna campaign speech and there were no clear solutions. Everything was vague! There was no road map on how to tackle all the issues he raised. He was able to point out the problems like all of us can but he ended up criticising PDP without proffering any solutions.
Instead of apologising to you, I will thank you for informing me. I did not blaspheme BB, the over all context was that the Forex depreciated under his regime and that has not changed.
UNDERSTANDING THE GRIEVANCE OF THE PEOPLE AGAINST GENERAL BUHARI AND HIS PARTY By Emeka Ugwuonye It might have taken me quite a while to put these thoughts and argument together. But it is important to understand why people felt so strongly against Buhari and why I encountered the greatest resistance ever each time I took a position favourable to Buhari. Whenever I see a trend that is persistent and seems to go against simple logic, I don't just dismiss it or ignore it. Instead, I pull back and reexamine my position and that of my opponent to try to discover new elements or merit that I might have ignored. So, I have been asking myself: why is it that many people I really consider wise and intelligent have been quite defiant and adamant in their opposition to any attempt to accept Buhari? Why are they so adamant in their rejection of Buhari and why do they attack me with so much ferocity each time I criticise President Jonathan? By series of coincidences, these questions were fully and finally addressed this evening at a private dinner with a very close and dear friend. She is a member of Due Process Attorneys (DPA). She is a quiet person. She is so well educated that she has been the editor of a major magazine in Nigeria. She used to follow my writings on DPA and Facebook generally and once in a while, she would oblige a comment, usually supportive and complementary. I would say that this friend has a lot of respect for me and for my viewpoints. She also tends to know how passionate and relentless I could be when I take a position. Over the time since I began to comment on Jonathan toward the elections, I noticed that my friend stopped commenting on my posts. She never said a word. At some point, I wondered if she was still on DPA. Yes, she is on DPA. I wondered if she was too busy to follow my posts and comments. After church today, I called her and asked why she has been so silent on my posts lately. She told me that she disagreed with me totally on my positions either critical of Jonathan or supportive of Buhari. She sounded unusually serious and pointed in her remarks. And she managed to let me know she really had more to say on the matter. I immediately fixed a dinner and invited her. I chose a place where we could have a private corner to discuss at length. Dinner was smooth and we talked about her work and my work and our travels and other things. After dinner, I settled for Martini while she asked for Cognac, old school style. I put it to her: "What is wrong? Why do you think I have been wrong in my views on Nigerian politics?" She lifted her glass, but didn't quite get it to her lips, and she started: "Emeka, I am actually shocked that you don't seem to understand Nigeria and its history well. Was it because you spent so many years in America?" She then took a sip, very slowly. She continued: "Emeka, have you heard about the quoter system in this country? Do you know that kids from certain states would get admitted into the Unity schools with 10 points, while your child from your state will not get admitted to the same school even with 100 points?" She continued, "Do you know that things were so bad that, you would not be able to get a contract from Government of Nigeria if you did not speak Hausa. If you liked, you could have all the education in this world, but unless you could speak Hausa and you were Hausa, you would not get anything, however good your proposal may be?" I didn't interrupt her. "Emeka, do you know that you would write a great proposal for contract and come into the ministry, but because you are not Hausan, you would never get a contact. Instead, they would cross out your name on your proposal and use it to award a contract to an Hausan man, who would turn around and sell it to you?" Not done, she went on: "So, when I read you encouraging that Buhari should be President or lampooning Jonathan, I wonder what is wrong with you". To drive her point home, she went on to say: "Emeka, do you know that if you were from the North and you went to Harvard, you would not need to work half as hard as you work and you would be awash with cash just because you are Hausan? Look at what is going in in the Customs, NNPC, Police, Armed Forces. Look at how they stuffed those places with people who are not as educated or even as competent or hardworking as people from the South. And Igbos and other minorities are unemployed" I came in this point: "How does Jonathan remaining the President change all that?" She cut in: "It will not happen overnight, but it is happening. Yes, Jonathan has made blunders. But having a Southerner as a President would prevent the Northerners from continuing to marginalize the Southerners at the same rate. And by the way", she was leaning forward with all the emphasis, "the years that Obasanjo and Jonathan have been in office have begun to roll back that system of injustice. Now, the Northerners are learning that they have to work hard too. They are learning they have work like others. For the first time, free money is no longer flowing as it used to and they are getting restless. All this Boko Haram is happening because they are no longer having it easy with free money at the expense of others". She stopped. Then she continued: "Emeka, as long as a Southerner is President, the North will continue to sabotage him because they are not having it easy anymore. They must render the country ungovernable". I came in again at this point: "But you can't really keep the North away from power indefinitely. There is no mechanism for that. Besides, that shouldn't to be desirable. You can't active that militarily and you cannot achieve that through the democratic process, given the official demographics". "I know that", she cut in. "I know that, but the goal is to suspend that evil practice for as long as possible so that they would not be able to reconstitute it by the time power returns to them" Then I asked her: "Why do so many people insist that Buhari did not have a high school certificate?". "Because they know that if you are from the North, all corners would be cut for you. If Buhari was an Igbo or Yoruba or of any of the minority tribes, he would never have been a General or a former Head of State. Indeed, you see Directors in Government parastatals from the North who do not know how to write their names or speak English. Yet they are Directors, while Southerners are unemployed. So, it is perfectly possible that Buhari did not have school certificate. They didn't need that to get to any position they desired. And that is what having a Southern President is changing" Then I asked her: "What has Jonathan done to change the situation?". She replied: "It is going to be a slow process. But Jonathan is doing something. Can you see how the pension scandal is coming to light because a Southern President is busting that system. Also, the fertilizer scam, the ghost workers scam. All that are reducing now that you have a Southern President. It is too soon to return power to them. Buhari will immediately return to their old ways if he becomes President". Our conversation continued deep into the night, until about 40 minutes ago when I began to write this piece. Basically, I found her observations to be real. It is a concern deep enough in the minds of many, and it is sufficient to justify the way they feel about this election and the deep fears they have about power returning to a Northerner so soon. Indeed, this conversation was deep. I could relate it to so many other observations and bits of information out there in general. Honestly, if you share these observations or hold them to be true, it is difficult not to support Jonathan if you are a Southerner. It explains many things. It explains the attitude of Southern people toward Boko Haram. It explains how the people understood the phrase "making the country ungovernable". Indeed, it explains the anger and bitterness on the part of people who believe that they have been victims of an unjust system. I am glad I had this conversation. While it did not address all the issues and nuances to this sort of complex social and political system, it raised enough substantive consideration to justify my slowing down my criticisms of Jonathan. I ought to be more sensitive to the feelings of the people of the South. My main regret now is that the people of the South are not speaking up openly and directly about these injustices. They tend to address them by proxy and by body language. I believe that these issues deserve an open treatment. Nigerian people who have been marginalised should have recourse and ability to resists such injustices. We need to have a solution that will stand regardless of who is President. In any event, I promised my friend, and rightly so, that I would relent on my attacks on Jonathan. I will basically watch the situation as it unfolds. I wish I knew this earlier. I might have been able to help in a more effective way. I hope Nigerians will find lasting justice. ...........................................................
Someone reported here that a certain Dominic is taking Tinubu to court and the APC guys promptly reminded us that the court is on strike. Buhari to sue FFK and they have forgotten that the Judiciary is on strike and are celebrating hmmmmm!
Redoil: Why is it that something strange is always wrong with the species call buhari i.e salisu buhari and mohamedu buhari and another buhari? Guess correctly what is wrong with them and win a house in VGC or banana island.
kazmanbanjoko: Infidelity has nothing to do with dis. He only makes wrong moves as at then. After death of yaradua, everytin started to change from bad to worse. Jan 1st 2012, he announced removal of fuel subsidy and other useless announcements. If yaradua is still alive, nigeria will not have been what it is today.
If you think removal of subsidy is a bad thing, I won't blame you a lot because we as Nigerians like quick fixes. You are asking for corruption free society and some one has taken the first step to address it but you are kicking.
I remember how you (APC guys) kicked against privatisation but today your Osibanjo is not only advocating for privatising the discos and gencos, he wants the transmission privatised as well. He also wants to increase the tariff so that investors will be attracted to the gas sector. You won't kick.
kazmanbanjoko: There was once a kenyan provern which says "He who refuses to obey cannot command." so, i dont need to talk much on dis proverb. Yu will understand it yourself.
Your proverb did not answer my question. Why can't you answer the question?
kazmanbanjoko: but if jonathan can do what he was suppose to do @ d right time. People wont dislike him or throw him stones. Dont misquote me, i didn't support the stoning of pres. Jonathan. I only meant that people stone bcoz he has done something wrong. No matter what, people still dont have to stone him or assault him bcoz he is the president for GOD sake.
For your mind, they were stoning him because he didn't do something? Is it the same reason they stoned him in 2011? They stoned him because he is an infidel.
kazmanbanjoko: dont misquote me. I only mentioned a few of them. We have people like amaechi, tambuwal and the rest of them.
haha, these were in PDP for your info. They left for bigger opportunities. One went for VP which he lost to Tinubu and the other got his governorship ticket.
barcanista: The PDP on Nairaland are not interested in engaging us intellectually. Making Caricature images of Muhammadu Buhari and littering the forum with copy and paste propaganda is all they are based on. I believe I will welcome the challenge for Nairalanders to see which side of the divide means well for Nigeria. If there is a reasonable debate, with moderation and the PDP people agree to stick to the rules and be civil, I barcanista will more than willing to be on #TeamBuhari side.
Remarkable: lol thank you, my br lol thank you, my brother... the truth is out there, but not too many people find it, or see, talkless of recognizing it... anyhoo, as they say, it is what it is.
The worst is that many see it but prefer to twist it.
Remarkable: are you sure? do you know how much was found missing in PTF accounts? before I tell you and you dub it "propaganda", why not research on it and see if you still think that "he wont let .. etc"
Buhari is bad news, change in the wrong direction, I call him
ellechrystal: Don't mind him. Maybe buhari has told him personally that he will give him a job. I just wonder how ppl think. His lack of job may even b a spiritual problem if he has stayed too long. Please he should b advised to go for deliverance. Please visit mfm for prayers..he needs sweet Jesus
Hear ye o Chamboy, the voice of my pastor. Seek Jesus
Politics › Re: Buhari Breaks Silence As He Arrives Cambridge For His Certificate(VIDEO) by agabaI23(m): 5:08pm On Jan 27, 2015*. Modified: 10:10pm On Jan 27, 2015
and I defended myself with a central bank link