DEMZEE: ALAAFIN OF OYO SULTAN OF SOKOTO MYRON GAINES (of the fresh and fit podcast) FUTURE DRAKE WIZKID KING DAVID KING SOLOMON ABRAHAM JACOB GIDEON
etc....
HIGH VALUE MEN ARE MEN OTHER MEN WANNA BE AND RESPECT AND THEY ARE MEN FEMALES WANNA FVCK
OK, before I respond to your response, let's go back to the basis of this argument. I was of the solemn opinion that marrying a VIRGIN isn't what make one any alpha male as to the claim made on the post that I reacted upon.
and that VIRGINITY IS inconsequential to the union of a successful marriage of any alpha.
[color=#000000]then back to your answer, firstly Alaafin of OYO is a monarch, and it is traditional that a monarch is entitled to as many wives, he is also a Muslim and Muslims as we all know practice polygamy more than anything, so don't equate him being a traditional monarch to any alpha [/color]mention to me one Yoruba monarch that has one wife, and if you can't mention to me one, does polygamy make every Yoruba monarch an alpha?
and who even said the newer slayqueen wives of the alaafin, who are all over Instagram and Snapchat before marriage were all virgins
Secondly the Sultan of Sokoto is also a TRADITIONAL ISLAMIC MONARCH who's entitled and solely in regards to his religion can have many wives.
in y'alls logic, even the Hausa barrowpusher who has many wives is also an ALPHA ffsbecause I can see that y'all logic of an alpha is by marrying many wives.
Thirdly, Myron Gaines doesn't have no known relationships, and isn't married, so shouldn't be included in where to draw excerpts in regards to marriage. (to which was my sole argument that VIRGINITY IS INCONSEQUENTIAL to the marriage of any alpha.)
Fourth and Fifth, Future even tho I consider him an alpha, isn't married yet, and haven't at anytime settled for lesser in regards to his relationship escapades, from ciara to Lori Harvey and to every other of his 6babymamas, none of them weren't in past relationships before meeting and having kids with future. None of his 6 babymamas or former relationships were disvirgined by him as they were all A list celebrities prior to meeting, Or do you think Lori Harvey, Ciara, Dess Dior, Jessica Smith, Brittni Mealy, Joie Chavis were all virgins before meeting future
Drake on the other hand hasn't any serious relationships and even his babymama Sophie Brussaux has been touring the world with her art before they met.was she also a virgin?
and lastly for the others that you did mention which were bible stories and no living being can actually account for the lives that they lived of not hearsay. And even to think about it logically, how did you think king Solomon could have vetted 700 virgins to marry
All these points I gave was to reiterate my stance that VIRGINITY IS INCONSEQUENTIAL TO THE UNION OF MARRIAGE, which has been the point of my argument ever since.
Because I can see that some so-called alphas here are simply writing for writing sake without reasoning.
Not saying that virginity is bad, but it all boils down to personal preference. Thats to say that If a virgin and a non-virgin female with similer wive features are placed to choose, you simply have a choice to choose with you prefer be you alpha or beta, and not saying that virgins are only for alpha males...
and one lunatic here said that only fools marry non virgins, meaning that over 85% of men who built and run this sophisticated world are fools...... you can imagine what a so-called alpha is preaching. It is an insult to men and we can't take it from a nobody who's simply behind his keypad with his small money data to write bullcrap.
NOTE: I'm all for being alpha and being a high value man, I am all for MGTOW, I all for keeping women's bullshit attitude in check at all times, all for men taking their place back in the society. But some opinions here are straight trash from the pit of delusion
Even Drake that you pedestalize as an alpha talked about some of the things that would make him potentially be in any relationship/marriage in the future, and he ain't mentioned no MF untouched coochie.
Nyascobar1414: Such a daft nigga... Those excercises, Injuries are all crap up stuff bro..
Why do you think I cant go for a well mannered virgin which is submissive and homely..
Virginity capsule
So when they take the capsule, their hymen reapperars... I see you are just a daft nigga that cant understand simple writeups..
Go to your dictionary and checkout what hymen is... Or do you really think its all females that gush out blood in their first coitus
Just know that b4 I cosider marriage virginity is one of the prerequisite...
Cos I cant take a religious, good personality, submissive and faithful ex H0e.. Cos such females are time bomb, waiting to explode at the right time...
Instead I'll go for a virgin with a good personality, submissive, beauty and brains...
I know it will be difficult for you to decipher the truth in this..
I dont save repented females, who wh0red their youthful stage with reckless abandon..
If you wanna be a captain save a h0e... Then do that in peace!
What gladens my heart is that you will learn and cry the world a river!
I swear to god, you are more of an illiterate than I thought Jesus Christ is this who am arguing with
You are really a right thinking man with working brain.
Am done mr Alpha redpill.
So after the link I posted, you couldn't still help yourself?
preacherdark: You guys have been talking about virgins and non virgins. Well let me put the debate to dust. I want to buttress some hard point first which I'll want you to keep on your left palm for this post sake
NB: All women are the same..... A man and women are different specie debunking what some wack evolutionalist made us believe..... Man and woman think differently....
Guys, play this picture in your head.
"You see 2 ladies in a beach having a nice time, almost dressed naked with bikini and panties, one of them took some oil that looks like a sunscreen, she started rubbing it on the others skin, she went further and started rubbing it on her breast, massaged close to her nipple a bit, then went further to more estrogenous zones close to her labia to rob the sunscreen, after she finished, they both giggle and pecked"
Hey perverts, sound hot right, this looks like what a sister can do for each other right? Even the femcunt and manboobs among us will agree to the fact that its normal for ladies to do sort of thing
But lets come home, can you imagine a guy doing that for a fellow brother. I can see the rage in your eyes now, dont lash out on me, sound gross.
There you have it, we are of different species.
Now to tossing the VIRGIN and NON VIRGIN debate, never ever underestimate a ladies hypergamous nature. Just because you lashed a virgin girl and married her doesn't mean if he meets a man that got a Full Alpha mojo like George Clooney who has the looks, status, money and the popularity (leaders of men and women with right amount of preselection) that she wont forget you a nano seconds.
Ladies lack sense of judgement, they are species of feeling and they lack logical reasoning, thats when she start thinking with her gina and her hamster will start spinning and she will start rationalizing 100 ways she should be with George Clooney.
Don't be surprised when your little snowflake comes back home telling you shes pregnant and after the delivery you find out the seed that popped out of her gina is white and you come back on this thread to ask how possible is an African woman and Full blacked dude like you birth a white looking daughter.
For the Too Long, Didn't read folks on the thread (tl;dr) One minutes of alpha trumps five years of beta
I love you my brother for this. Where you at, let's talk sense.
Many people here are just on the bandwagon of alpha's and redpillers and it stinks.
Can't reason, can't analyze, but is an alpha I refuse to be a NON REASONING ALPHA MALE, I SIMPLY REFUSE.
VIRGINITY is never a guarantee to a successful marriage. And marrying a non virgin doesn't make one a beta.
If she tryna give me excuses bout falling down, riding a bicycle that punctured her hymen, I take her as a manipulative b!tch...
Females dont need excuses for a nigga being broke, they dont care... They need winners and not losers...
So you see, they are cold and so I am...
Give me the hymen, I give you the ring...
Its that simple..
#bandit way#
You see what I mean here when I say that some of you here are just redpill in writing and talking.
So you can't think with a whole brain God gave to you other than following write-ups and topics So Much for being a redpill.
I refuse to be a redpill alpha male that can't reason logically and reasonably, with a Godgiven sophisticated and very complex instrument like my Brain.... I swear I refuse
So you wouldn't marry a marriageable girl who broke her hymen to some sports (but is a true virgin)
But you will marry a non virgin that took the virginity pill which gives you the illusion that you broke a hymen in the course of your intercourse with her.
I swear I can't make any more argument with you since you can't even think with your brain but follow redpill thread....
That's how someone in the thread talked about not giving women the meals he cooked if they come to his house. You MUST buy your meals and cook your food when you come visiting.
another guy asked him why shouldn't they come with their stoves and plates while coming too.... And maybe another gullible person who can't reason with his brain like my man here, will carry it to apply to his daily life.
Are those all part of the redpill too
And to my man above, this is what a virginity pill is.. Don't bother thanking me, you are welcome for my service.
You don't even know the virginity pill, and here I am going back and forth with you. So how tf do you vet your so called virgins when you are ready to settle down
Nyascobar1414: Answer the question nii.. Why would you pay a full price(marriage) for a woman other guys got for free!
Think!
Because marriage doesn't revolve around untouvhed coochie.
Also the untouched one you've paid the full price for, still has the potential to give the coochie that you so much pedestalize to another behind your back....NO BE WOMAN AGAIN
talking about their are special type of women out their by only being a virgin. Use y'all head please.
DEMZEE: KEVIN SAMUELS ISNT SOMEONE YOU SHOULD RESPECT AT ALL.... THAT NIGGA WANTS MEN TO COMPROMISE AND WIFE UP HOES AND SLUTS
KEVIN SAMUELS IS IN THE BUSINESS OF ENSURING FEMALES FULFILL THEIR SEXUAL MATING STRATEGY AT THE COST OF MALES
KEVIN SAMUELS WANTS HIGH VALUE MEN AND LOW VALUED BETA MALES TO WIFE UP HOES WHY BECAUSE IN THEIR SOCIETY THEY BELIEVE MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUALS AND THE SAME, THEY BELIEVE A WOMAN'S PAST DOESN'T MATTER EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE STATS THAT SHOW OTHERWISE AND THEY CAN SEE HOW MARRIAGE RATES ARE DROPPING IN WESTERN SOCIETIES
THE THING IS VERY SIMPLE: VIRGINS ARE MEANT FOR KINGS AND GODS NON-VIRGINS AND HOES ARE MEANT FOR LOW VALUED BETA MALES
WHY WUD A HOE STILL BE DEMANDING VIRGINITY TREATMENT FROM MALES??
MALES CAN'T HAVE STANDARD AND WHITE KNIGHTS LIKE YOURSELF ARE THE PROBLEM
You also don't know Kevin Samuels, and let's still leave it at that.
You all have been negating the topic, going from non virgin to a HOE.
PstDapo: Kelvin Samuels is selling an illusion to post wall black American women who have neither traditional Feminine qualities and typically come with baggages from their past sexual escapades with their exes or other men, he's a marketer and he knows the audience he's trying to appeal giving the state of promiscuity in their Society it's very unlikely to meet a virgin whether for relationship or even marriage most loose their at 16 or 18, if I must ask giving the option to choose between a traditional Feminine virgin and a traditional Feminine non-virgin which will you prefer to give you peace of mind giving they both have the same homely traits, also remember women post wall and non-virgins feign submissiveness to manipulate and attract high valued men, also they have bonding and imprints of past Alphas
You don't know who Kevin Samuels is by your analysis, no need to go further.
And to your question. I will still choose a traditional feminine non virgin. She's had the fun and has no need to be curious still.
A virgin will be curious to experiment outside of what we've had.
DEMZEE: VIRGINITY SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF YOUR LIST WEN IT COMES TO MARRIAGE REQUIREMENTS ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A HIGH VALUE MAN WHO DISCIPLINED HIS WAY TO GET THAT HIGH VALUE STATUS
NON-VIRGINS AND HOES ARE MEANT FOR LOW VALUED BETA MALES PERIODT!
If you plan on becoming poor average and miserable then settle for NONVIRGINS and HOES
GETTING MARRIED TO A VIRGIN AND NOT KEEPING HER ON HER TOES, ESTABLISHING BOUNDARIES ETC IS VERY FOOLISH
AS A MAN YOU ARE THE PRIZE SO ITS EITHER SHE COMPLYS TO UR RULES OR SHE'S KICKED TO THE CURB
AND IF SHE CHEATS, BETRAYS OR DOESN'T COMPLY TO UR BOUNDARIES AND STANDARDS THEN YOU KICK HER TO THE STREETS, VIRGIN OR NOT!
VIRGINITY DOESN'T GUARANTEE SHIT BUT IT IS ONE HELL OF A GOOD FOUNDATION TO BUILD A MARRIAGE ON
SHALOM!
What's your definition of a high value man with high value status. And give few examples of people who you think are
Bro, go and save hoes we don't give a damn,but don't claim it espoused by the redpill, Bleep off from this thread, I don't know what you are looking for here, and yes majority of men are ignorant beta male who are foolish when it comes to their sexual strategy with regards to the intersexual dynamics
I have kept it respectful and wanted to let everyone air their point. But seems your myopic and disillusioned self cannot air your delusional point without insults.
When they don't have meaningful points to counter you, they resort to insults and name calling. That's how we will keep the society running. Go get a sex doll and soot yourself, it's better off that way.. fool FOH
PstDapo: Dude I gave you studies to look at what's your problem, must you save a hoe, which kind white Knight spirit is in you, you don't even feel robbed and cheated by engaging with non virgins and taking them seriously, they got Sexual abundance for just merely existing whether they are average, ugly or fine, men will continue to chase them,you will work all your life before you even get the ability to access women, reach your prime years when your sexual market value has improved and go for leftovers in the Sexual market place, is this not SCARCITY mindset
Is every non virgin a hoe , why deviating from the very thing we are arguing about
I was talking and solely still talking about vetting a virgin not being a criteria for marriage in my books, and will 100% stand on it.
After many years of your marriage, you will have to talk about how your wife was being useful to you and surely not about her being a virgin
No one is really redpill than the other, nigga talking about white knight.
I've listened to KEVIN SAMUEL (one of the most respected alpha males I have come across), and I ain't heard him so much pedestalize and prioritize virginity as a alpha move or criteria for successful union of marriage.
If you take her virginity, you don't take am ooohhh, but you can't take her homely qualities, her nice meals, her comfort, her peace of mind, and what she brings to the table. And those are what really matter on the long run, and not her untouched punna.
The only big thing you will have to gain of her being a supposed virgin is... You being the first D to enter her coochie
IF THE FOUNDATION BE DESTROYED WHAT CAN THE RIGHTEOUS DO??
MARRYING A VIRGIN IS THE BEST FOUNDATION TO HAVING A SUSTAINABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH SUCH FEMALE.....SIMPLE!
VIRGINITY DOESN'T GUARANTEE SHIT BUT ITS SURE AS HELL THE BEST CHARACTER TRAIT A FEMALE CAN HAVE BECAUSE IT SHOWS DISCIPLINE AND KNOWING ONE'S SELF WORTH AND VALUE. FEMALES ARE SEX OBJECTS AND THEIR SEXUALITY IS THEIR PRIMARY AGENCY.
UNDERSTAND BEING A VIRGIN IS JUST THE FOUNDATION, THERE ARE OTHER TRAITS YOU SHOULD SEEK OUT TOO FROM HER AND MOST TIMES VIRGINS USUALLY COME PRE-PACKAGED WITH THOSE OTHER SORT AFTER TRAITS
THERE'S A VERY THIN LINE BETWEEN A NON-VIRGIN AND A HOE
YOU CANNOT TURN A HOE INTO A HOUSEWIFE JUST LOOK AT THE LIKES OF KIM KARDASHIAN, MIA KHALIFA, LANA RHODES, CELENA POWELL etc...
Nigga u have to understand that modern females want males to reduce their standards for marriage while simultaneously having the monopoly of being ruthless with their sexual mating strategy
FEMALES ARE RUTHLESS WEN IT COMES TO THEIR SEXUAL MATING STRATEGY.... LET THIS BURN IN YOUR BRAIN!!!!!!!!!
MEN ARE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE FVCKING PRIZE DON'T ALLOW ANY BITCH TELL YOU OTHERWISE
ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION; WHY SHOULD I PAY FULL PRICE(marriage) TO A FEMALE THAT OTHER MEN GOT FOR FREE??[/b]
Nothing is guaranteed, meaning your so-called virgin is still likely to out of curiosity go behind your back to get some D so long as she still watch movies and has communications outside.
Thereby ruthlessly fucking all your macho up, since you have ultimately laid emphasis on her kitten.
And like I said, most meaningful and marriageable girls with 80% of the marriage prospectus were once virgins, deceived by either a thoughtful or non thoughtful niggas who wasn't ready for marriage.
So does that wipe off the 80% qualities of her being a good woman to wive up
Yes virginity could be one of a requirement for marriage, but should never be in the top 5 of its requirements.
If marrying a non virgin knowingly or unknowingly makes one a fool, then over 80% of men are fools, to which I can't and any sensible person would never agree.
WHEN IT COMES TO UNDERSTANDING OUR VALUES AND STANDARDS AS MEN, LOGIC GOES OUT THE WINDOW....IT IS VERY CRAZY TO ME
FEMALES ARE VERY RUTHLESS WITH THEIR SEXUAL MATING STRATEGY BUT MEN LIKE FOOLS WILL GLADLY GASLIGHT THEIRS... SMH!!
THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IN THIS LIFE.. THE ONLY THING THAT IS GUARANTEED IS DEATH!
VIRGINS MAKE THE BEST WIVES AND MOTHERS NON-VIRGINS MAKE BAD WIVES AND MOTHERS HOES MAKE THE WORST WIVES AND MOTHERS
Lol contradicting yourself even more.
Nothing is guaranteed except death, but you went ahead to guarantee that...
virgins makes the best wives....guaranteed Non virgins make bad wives....guaranteed
Make it make sense to me too
There should always be room for meaningful and constructive criticisms, and not trolling and cursing.
If there ain't criticism, then you are talking to kids, But I believe there are men here.
BTW, I have been on this thread for as long as I can remember, just always holding back to comment for certain reasons. Thought I should just make my input.
PstDapo: Foools settle down with other men leftovers With all the data available that non virgins can't pairbond and will more likely cheat and cuckold you in marriage Why can't you put in the effort and secure the best as a man, why will you go for second class product, is it now non virgins that will be submissive, feminine, tolerable when they come with baggages from the men they have slept with and their exes, why are you now redpill aware, to marry a hoe, make this make any sense, don't you know the redpill is backed with empiricism, when you don't read and research and get your facts right
You can bring out every statistics in the world to massage your ego on your claim, it doesn't even add up.
Is marriage based on sex alone. (To which statistics and several words of mouth has shown that sex gets boring with time in marriage, whilst the attributes and personal qualities of both parties sustains the union till later times. What will sustain the marriage when the sex becomes boring, or you think you will control someone who sees and relates with you almost everyday all your life?
Then someone is a fool for marrying a non-virgin outlooking other attributes Make it make sense to me....
So what about the virginity pills been sold and you as a so-called alpha manages to carry one of those as a so called virgin.
Who's now a bigger fool....make it make sense to me man....
VIRGINITY IS OVERRATED MAN, come up with more facts
Dollywood: I understand you. But if you was to marry a girl because she a virgin, and therefore ignore other criteria like her personality then you in for a big thing. For me, I think being a virgin is overrated. I would rather take a girl that is not a virgin with good personality over a virgin girl whose a spoilt brat. In the end, I think a girl that really loves you for who you are, understands you and willingly to be submissive is what matters. I wouldn't put my mental health in jeopardy because I want a virgin girl that obviously have the worst character.
For real for real brother. I have been going thru this whole thread for quite a while now, and not wanting to write shit.
But this whole notion of marrying a virgin is total bullshit to me.
A virgin doesn't equate or guarantee loyalty A virgin doesn't equate or guarantee submissiveness. A virgin doesn't automatically mean a traditional woman qualities from any so called virgin A virgin doesn't even guarantee a calm headed girl.
Even some of the so called virgins could be worse than your average woman knowing fully well that they don't crave this [color=#000000]D[/color].
Many reasonable girls who were once virgins were also deceived by guys who never meant well, so that automatically makes her bad because she ain't no virgin
I swear this virginity issue sound so MEANINGLESS to me
How can you even for sure determine that one is a virgin when virginity pills are being sold in the market
If you crave for a virgin then do so, and stop shoving it down others throats. Talking as tho being a virgin is the next thing after virgin Mary, When some so-called virgins (females) have stinking attitudes just like any other person would.
As for me, I see nothing special in any virgin, and I ain't never planning on wifing any virgin.
VIRGINITY IS TOTALLY OVERRATED and that's my 2cents.
Some opinions here are straight jargon sha, but each man to his own and you take what works for you, and discard what doesn't tally.
kayperry: Her money from where, for a B- list actress how much she dey collect, that politician guy bought her the venza stop being naive girls like nkechi live on bankroll from sugars & runz.
But which made man wan keep nkechi for payroll
Wey the attraction, No nice killer shape No big nyash or breast, Not even very beautiful face.
openmine: It was not really Pep that started the revolution for Mancity....Its was actually Roberto mancini that gave them the breakthrough and won them their first EPL which was won on the final day after Aguero scored that stoppage time winner! Mancini was the first to bring in the fulcrum of players that pep benefitted from....pep simply made some quality additions without necessarily changing the entire team he inherited! Mancity never looked back since then....It was their constant search for a UCL trophy that led the owners to dump or sack Mancini and Perlergini,who also won an EPL for mancity, and settled for Pep!
What are you talking about? How many players in pellegrini era are now with pep... lol
Kollins11: Omo! It was my mom that caught me masturbating oo!
One Saturday morning, I was in my room watching a movie on my laptop, I also connected my earpiece. A sex scene got my attention and I kept on repeating the scene, I was already hard and trying to masturbate.
I never knew my mom was spreading her clothes outside just close to my window. So she needed me to pass peggs for her, but I couldn't hear her because I was on my earpiece.
She caught me masturbating aggressively hard, she just stood by the window. I noticed that someone was blocking the morning sun from reflecting into my room.
So the moment I looked back. I was so shocked, I saw my mom Shaking her head and telling me “Collins go and marry before you rape someone in this house one day oooo!!!“
LINTUNE: lol, see this one, u no Sabi oyinbo life.. someone this old can be so rich with life insurance and plenty of assets, cos she is now old and feeling bored,she could just decide to work or be normal just to kill boredom..guy seems u don't know how these whites think...you think say them be like we Africans wey go de too carry everything for head...dude that woman is fucking rich.