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edemhe:
I swapped out of pc gaming because i couldn't afford to keep updating my pc to keep up with new titles.

I have been using the same console now (Xbox) for the past 11years and haven't had to upgrade it once.

Games are built for consoles while PCs are built for games. That is facy

upgrading to keep up with new titles doesn't sound right to me, clearly anyone doing that is wasting money.the resources required to run games developed within the same period doesnt change significantly to justify upgrading the hardware.

There-in lies the beauty of pc gaming, when your system starts to struggle, you can sell the old hardware and replace it something capable not necessarily the latest.

I know someone on nairaland who still has a first generation intel core processor that was launched in 2009 and games on it.

3KINGZ18:
are u guys really happy with d upgrading of hardware almost anytime a new game is out as silkmoth said why should he take panadol for another person datz what y'all(pc gamers) are doing check it out sony are planning on releasing an upgraded ps4 which will support 4k so guys there won't be much difference btw a console and a pc

Some pc gamers upgrade when new hardware is made not when new games are released . They've got the money to spend, its theirs.

Support for 4K is having HDMI 2.0 to enable the throughput required for 4k resolutions, refresh rates and adding HEVC support to decode 4k content ..it's only a statement they've made. only the game developers can say whether it will run games at 4K. There's a huge difference between supporting 4k resolutions and gaming at 4k.

The hardware in the new consoles are made by AMD and have the same architecture as APU'S when you get the chance research on AMD APU 's to see what kind of performance they have. Although they'll be using the new Polaris architecture from AMD i think it'll be tough to extract that kind of performance from it and have an enjoyable gaming experience gaming at 4K. The new hardware however will now allow game developers to consistently run games at 1080p 60hz on all new games. (only a handful do now others run at 720p or 900p rendering resolution )

If the new consoles have hardware equivalent to a desktop pc to game at 4k resolution, it won't be affordable.

Silkmoth33:
I intend to buy a gaming laptop!

A high end one!

Shey you go buy ps4 ni?

Youll be the one selling your kidneys not me hahha!

Get this one - http://www.wellindal.co.uk/home/asus/p-120015?r=4712900261165&gclid=CjwKEAjwiru9BRDwyKmR08L3iS0SJABN8T4vdi-A1YwXHNDAe6hk9JufrAJTziJ6j6YUkCGm2sXXmxoCaBfw_wcB

Silkmoth33:
sarcasm aside!

You are being a douchè, there is nothing wrong with owning a ps4 to play bloodborne, infamous second son, TLOU, Uncharted, and other ps4 exclusives just to feel the thrill of playing the all time greats. While owning a PC on the sides

ohh! I touched a nerve did I? Hiding behind the internet gives you the courage to be abusive..interesting you can't swallow the pill you've been trying to dish out all evening.

Silkmoth33:
While yes! Too much bloodborne would do that to you.


Oh that's right, you have no idea on what I'm on about as you've never played the ps4 exclusive.

OMG! Didn't know that. I'll have to buy a PS4 soon just to play an exclusive.

Silkmoth33:
Ild second that if you would agree that he also probably switched ships because of pc's convolution and the stress that accompanies owning and maintaining one

Stress is subjective pal.

Silkmoth33:

Now jogging...

Abeg! How many PC games you get sef?

Troll question! Keep it moving!

Silkmoth33:
Don't know how that Is relevant to our discussion, but yes, our world now knows you are a successful person. And it is a good thing. Keep it up

Thank you even though I sense a hint of sarcasm.

Silkmoth33:
What does that even mean?

We are having a conversation on why you should dump your PC for a console.

Surely our argument Is within the context of the topic.

Seems like you are choking! Running out of steam?

Ultimately, there are factors that drive ones decision to go for a console or PC for gaming.

The title should read why I had to dump my underperforming PC for console gaming because I couldn't upgrade it due to lack of hardware or funds. Lol

Silkmoth33:
Wow!

I was wrong! You guyz are not insane, you are all nuts.


It's a Game, for peace sakes. If my game FPS are too slow for future generations, that shouldn't be my headache, as long as I get to play whatever game that's available. As long as I still get to escape reality into a virtual world where anything is possible and dream and get them dopamine receptors sensitized again, you think I care about a lag? thats the console developer's headache oh!

When the time is right and the developer decides that we (console)gamers need to get our cataracts checked and evolve to much faster systems, then yeah.


Why should I be drinking panadol over some other dudes business. When I'm clearly, just in it for the playing.

You own a gaming station be it PC game or console game for the primary function of gaming. Anything other than that is irrelevant. So you can stick your view that you multitask ur PC into browsing p0rno movies up ur butt. Lol! Cos I sure as hell don't intend to make my ps4 skype my old granny down in seychelles.

Yea we are nuts about hardware...tell me something I don't know already bro. You're trying too hard to sound intelligent.

I make money off the knowlegde I have about hardware to pay some bills and fuel my passion for PC hardware.

Silkmoth33:
Perhaps in incapabilities we are evenly matched. Or atleast I have the decency to not be retrospective.

This info isn't for you..period! jog on!

Silkmoth33:
this is insane!

Why not reserve your precious brain cortex for game-making lectures.

What's wrong in learning a few bits on how to make the witcher3 instead of this!

I guess this is where you tell us how to develop a game..you should create a new thread for that....oh wait! you can't!

Silkmoth33:
Lol!


Ha ah! What is all dis

Are you guys building the rig for the thrill of having a monster PC. Or for the sole purpose of playing game?

Who are we deceiving?
You are more engrossed with your hardware than gaming.


I have a console! I play games made for it. If Sony advances to neo, I simply have to move on with the times and upgrade.
I'm not bothered about no cooling systems or my GTX warming the room upto 93 degrees of scorching heat, or hooking it up from 1080 HD to 4k televisioning. Or few ppl turning up to play games online.

To me the console is any machine that I play my games with.

Not a Caterpillar-like robotic heavy duty machinery that I have to always clean the vent, oil the joints and sh1t.

What is a PC really

PC enthusiasts enjoy both...it's exciting. Sometimes you want to play games, other times one wants to re-configure the system...make things more efficient, perhaps give it the wow factor with some LED light strips. Be creative...make modifications not done by the manufacturers. Enthusiasts are naturally problem-solvers by nature..pushing hardware to the limit...we are a different kind of people and life is such...you either love it or hate it.

You clearly don't have the same passion I have for hardware and that's fine...trust me when you play on a proper gaming PC with say a Freesync/G-sync gaming monitor with very little input lag, your console will take the back seat. My partner has a PS4 and I only play games on it that hit 60FPS anything below feels laggy and stuttery...and your eyes can sense the judder when you spin the camera.

Dust buildup can damage your console so cleaning is a must !

A console does what it says on the tin, play games that are fully optimised for it...PC gamers usually want to do more with their PC like share gameplay on live streams, create media or perhaps do something productive or work related whilst having that flexibility to game. Enthusiast want to do all of it and see the limit of that hardware.

RX480:
that'll be someone like AKBliv010 lol

..it's like a disease!..can't wait to do an ITX build...make my own custom braided cables sleeves and squeeze as much power into a small cube!

RX480:
I disagree with this, just because PC gamers are more tech savvy doesn't mean we aren't actual gamers, you're confusing PC gamers with PC/Hardware enthusiasts

PREACH!

cao:
Can't stick everything - only 4 slots. I tend stick 2 random threads along with the 2 permanent threads (gaming help & rules/feedback/complaints) on the gaming page. I'm surprised you hadn't noticed. I found this informative for those who would like to get more info about setting up their own rig, and since I can't stick everything (like I said earlier), the referral page is the best option.

I think comments should be closed off on this thread so the first post with links remains on page one where anyone access it. Questions can be asked on the related posts.

rawdpiper:
So Intel's integrated HD graphics is better?

lol sorry thats meant to be 'better than'..corrected

KazukiIto:
Installed previous version, upgrade version, nada.
Acer Aspire E1-571
Intel core i3
Intel HD 4000 1760MB Vram 128 formerly, now 32MB

If you haven't got access to change the VRAM size in BIOS by both BIOS versions, then I think that feature is locked by default. Shared VRAM is usually dynamic and will use more than 32MB when it's required. I won't worry about it tbh.

I think Windows has automatically adjusted that value and will request for more if the program demands more vram.

cao:
I no get list. Just marking this for future reference.

All join!

In a nutshell, case fans are required to move air in and out of the PC case thereby keeping the PC components cooler; pushing in cool air, exhausting warm air.

There are typically two types of case fans and they are described by the fan blade design.
Air flow fans: optimised for moving a lot of air
Static pressure fans: optimised for dealing with restrictions like radiators, HDD cages etc.

You can choose to use either airflow or static pressure fans the difference in performance isn't significant.However, one can select based on how their PC configuration is.As a rule of thumb, where there is low air restriction within the case use airflow fans.

Fans come in different sizes and range from 40mm to 200mm but the choice is based on the PC case limitations. The standard sizes for most gaming cases are 120mm and 140mm in diameter and a width typically of 25mm. In some larger PC case size, it's common to see 180mm, 200mm and 230mm (diameter) fans.

When setting up your fan configuration always aim to keep 'positive' air flow meaning have more air moving into the case than moving out of the case. This doesn't necessarily mean have more intake fans as the speed of the fans dictate how much air is being moved. 'negative' air flow means you have more air exhausting the PC case than entering. Negative air pressure usually leads to more dust build up in the case as air is pulled through unfiltered vents on the case.

So in choosing your fan, check case support before purchasing.

Note though choosing a fan can be very frustrating as there are so many manufacturer. I usually go to thermalbench.com to do my comparisons.
On photo, airflow(AF) fan on left, Static Pressure (SP) on right. Note the fan blade design.

Related Post - https://www.nairaland.com/3267973/gaming-pc-what-need-know

KazukiIto:
Akbliv010 concerning my vram and bios, I've other versions and it's not still working. You mentioned something about flashing the BIOS...

I've lost track on where we got to. I remember saying something about flashing the BIOS. So what have you done? Did you install the latest version, then go back to the previous, then back to the latest version?
Remind me of your systems make & model.

rawdpiper:
Laptop

With an i5-4th gen & R7 mobile dGPU, you shouldn't have any issues running most games on med-high settings with some small tweaks to the image quality and still get decent framerate. It will ultimately be much better than gaming with intel's integrated hd graphics.

What R7 graphic card is it M260,M265,M270?

rawdpiper:
Just wanted to compare to the cost of data plan in naija. is the 20k in dollar or naira?

naira

rawdpiper:
Intel Core i5(4th/5th Gen) @2.5-2.6GHz
4GB RAM
AMD R7 GPU

is this okay for games like GTA V, Far Cry, Battlefield, Call of Duty, FIFA 16, PES 16 etc

Are you referring to a laptop or desktop?

rawdpiper:
Intel Core i5(4th/5th Gen) @2.5-2.6GHz
4GB RAM
AMD R7 GPU

is this okay for games like GTA V, Far Cry, Battlefield, Call of Duty, FIFA 16, PES 16 etc

are you refering to a laptop or desktop?

rawdpiper:
Which ISP abroad gives u unlimited internet and how much does it cost?

U wan pay for me? na 20k a month.

Nosainwe:
pls guys ,can anybody provide a direct link or a website i can download call of duty modern warfare 2 because i don search tire all the website i enter including oceanofgames when i click on download i am block by ads that i cant skip,i don tire ,pls help
or is it dat i cant use android to download from those websites

Why would you want to put a PC game on an android device though!

Lana1:
I'm liking this new Origin Beta!!

didnt know one was out. What about it?

Section8:
Thanks I plan on buying a new gaming PC soon I'll be sure to do that.

Laptop or Desktop?

KazukiIto:
2.2 Turing Machine
------------------
Grand Master Turing once dreamed that he was a machine. When he awoke he exclaimed:
"I don't know whether I am Turing dreaming that I am a machine, or a machine dreaming that I am
Turing!.

You should watch The Imitation Game if you haven't. It's about the invention of the Turing Machine.

Section8:
Plz forgive an ignorant nigga but is Intel better than AMD or the other way round?? Ayam not understanding

In terms of instruction-per-cycle (IPC), Intel chips perform better but AMD typically have better integrated graphics...so in gaming scenes were it's CPU bound, Intel will perform better..if it's GPU-bound AMD should perform better. For an all round performer in gaming it'll be an Intel CPU with a dedicated GPU.

if you will be purchasing one soon, share the specs here.

Test Setup
Motherboard - Asus Maximus Ranger VII
Processor - Intel i7-4790K at 4.4Ghz
RAM - Kingston HyperX Fury at1866Mhz
Storage - Samsumg 2TB HDD
Power supply - Corsair AX860i

Test Method - FRAPS was be used to capture the framerate and an average of 3 runs of the game title will be used to calculate the framerate. This is to minimise errors and as such will take quite a while to collate the data.
All games will be tested at 1920x1080, unless stated otherwise. Actual gameplay will be used unless I believe the in-built benchmark of the title suffices. Only DX11 games will be tested. As soon as a benchmark tool for DX12/Vulkan is available I'll be doing games like Hitman, RoTR, AoTS, TotalWar:Hammer, DOOM.
Power consumption is captured using Corsair LINK software

Feel free to ask questions...I had to remove Hitman Absolution from the test as it gave me inconsistent readings.

Game settings used
Witcher 3 - Ultra Settings, High Post processing, Nvidia Hairworks OFF
AC: Syndicate - Very High Settings with FXAA
Black Op3 - High Setting with SMAA 2x
Crysis - Very High Setting with FXAA
Shadow of Mordor - Ultra Setting
Tomb Raider 2013 - Ultra Setting - MSAA 2x

Clearer image of framerate comparison - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5gP1lXvmMe5amEyQURwcjFUTDA