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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 11:01pm On Jul 01, 2017
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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 10:59pm On Jul 01, 2017
SuperS1Panther:
All the unsolicited and useless expletives of the uninvited Osus littering this thread have been cleaned out.
I hope they will respect themselves now.

The cleaning is not yet complete. CC Mynd, Lalasticlala please do the needful.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 10:52pm On Jul 01, 2017
Mujtahida:
If you show steel and not fall into the gutter trap of those peddling insults by ignoring it totally as I have done infant running mad on this thread you will show yourself to be a true omo akin but if you get itchy and irascible and begin to trade distributors insults then it's too bad

That's the key!
Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 10:48pm On Jul 01, 2017
Dalek:

Banning certain individuals from the political scene is an option, but that may go against the Constitutional right to vote and be voted for.
We can also enshrine in the Constitution that all individuals and political parties of the "old Republic" banned.
also any new party must have a political manifesto in line with the political spectrum (left wing and right wing) b4 dey are registered

Interesting. Also, we could make the most mischievous among them ambassadors - send them out of the country, where the would be less likely to do damage. However, things might become a little complicated if we are dealing with a federal system. This is why, the real progressives of Yorubaland must be at the fore-front of writing up the constitution.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 10:30pm On Jul 01, 2017
sukkot:
my fellow oduduwa brethren I salute oooo I see AkinPhysicist and Wristbangle in the house. eku ijoko oooo

Awa ni ye o! Eku saluting grin

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 10:28pm On Jul 01, 2017
Dalek:


Yes i believe in the Constitution, a well drafted one void of loopholes can go a long way. Having one is not the issue, but the individuals who will draft it.
You talked about progressive minds, but you think the political class of the "Old Republic" will simple die out. they will still be here now stuck with us, when not trying to lead they will may be pulling the strings. Who will give the progressive the chance and how can we know them??

i may sound paranoid but i Still think we need a political class rebirth.

Just because you are paranoid does not mean you are not right. I agree with you. We have to be wary of them. We cannot completely sideline them but there are things we can do to considerably minimize their power especially when it comes to the writing of the constitution - this is were it starts. In addition, I am of the opinion that the average Yoruba is a progressive. So, it would be relatively easy for progressives to take on the mantle of leadership of the new nation.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 10:00pm On Jul 01, 2017
The overriding principle must be: The smoothest possible transition. This is how, I think it should apply to the areas you have raised.

Dalek:
One thing that has always bother me tho are:
1) Changing our currency: Do we change it immediately without notice like the Indian did to flush out hidden looted cash or just change it incrementally knowing other nations of the B.A.D(Biafra, Arewa, Delta) regions have the naira and can bring dem here to change to dollars.
Currency is too sensitive an issue to be done immediately. A gradual phasing in of the new currency should be adopted. And you are right, this is best done in collaboration with our neighbors.

Dalek:

2) is it possible we keep the name nigeria (Western Republic of Nigeria) cuz of bilateral reasons, i believe if we keep the name we can easily get allies from other nations.
Name change can be done immediately (relatively speaking). After the constitution is written the name change should be able to go into full effect within a year or so.

Dalek:

3) what will happen to our previous political classes who damned us,dey will surely come back to try and rule.
solution: Military government, we arrest all past leader, create a public panel a la oputa panel. we strip dem of dere wealth and redistribute it.
This is not necessary. In fact could be counter-productive if not properly managed. Our focus should be the constitution. If it is well done and articulated, the structures would be in place to make sure that the old Nigerian mentality does not flourish in the new country.

Dalek:

yes I know thats a bit radical, but think of it can we really avoid the political corruption that plagued dis nation without a clean slate protocol. a Pro-yoruba military council can do that. we need iron hand in this country and we know it.
What is most important is a progressive vision and strong-willed men and women who are fully committed to carry it to fruition.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 9:33pm On Jul 01, 2017
maisauki:

YOU'V NOT GOTTEN MY DRIFT ...OK let it go like this from all you'v known give me just one example of a county that separated without war JUST ONE and i wil giv you numerous examples of those that their situation isn't as tolatile as ours but still went to war before they finally got separated...

Trust me - I get your drift. But you still have not address my point about inevitability. What if the Balkanization of Nigeria is inevitable? Do we then fold our arms and refuse to prepare? Think about it. Sometimes, the forces that hold a country together no longer can. When the inevitable happens you must be ready to move forward. Part of that involves doing EVERYTHING you can to minimize the likelihood of war.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 9:26pm On Jul 01, 2017
deedeedee1:

The hausas might not agree. If Yoruba, Igbos and Niger-Deltans leave, there will be no war. As far as we know our boundaries

I agree that Southern Unity will minimize the likelihood for conflict with the North. But, this idea that Northerners are any less separatists is a myth. There are thousands of Mohammed Yusufs (the non-militant founder of Boko Haram) in Northern Nigeria. I am talking of Muslim leaders who desire a Muslim ONLY country. The Arewa Youth that gave ultimatum to Igbos are also sick and tired of one Nigeria.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 9:13pm On Jul 01, 2017
maisauki:

I don't need to tell you who i am but do know wit certainty that there's no separation that goes easily it always lead to war and our elders do say...EYIN OKU LAA JOGUN, ASIKO OGUN LAA SOOGUN, ATOGUN ATOOGUN, KO SEYI TI KII LANI LOOGUN TOGUN BA DE...

If the 3 major tribes agree to a mutual separation then tell me where is the war gonna come from?

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 9:01pm On Jul 01, 2017
maisauki:

You guys think separation is that easy
IBERE OGUN LAARI...you and i might not see d aftermath of this online war if they should become reality

Interesting. Are you saying the fear of war is preventing you from EVEN having a discussion about separation?

Also, have you considered this: what if Nigeria's Balkanization is inevitable? Then, you are no better than the man who fails to prepare for an impending storm.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 8:56pm On Jul 01, 2017
Dalek:


A Yoruba nation has to have a separation from religion. to promote and protect our culture.
Cultural public holidays
Mandatory Parliament proceedings in yoruba sometimes.
yoruba language compulsory along side English.
I fully agree and have suggested similar ideas in the past. The emboldened is key.

Dalek:

Lagos should never be capital.
If you may kindly shed more light on this. I don't wanna assume anything at the moment.

Dalek:

Any Minorities joining should have their state
Kogi west(state) for the okun people
If they are Yorubas then they are not minorities. If they are minorities then they are not Yorubas. Hence moot.

Dalek:

Oyo needs to be broken down, its to Big imho
Not necessary imo. Its all about management. Texas is as big as Nigeria.

Dalek:

I believe greatly in DAWN. but I kinda don't like dat oduduwa Republic name.
we can do better
Just see the current name as place-holder for now. Future discussions will finalize things.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 8:18pm On Jul 01, 2017
9jakool:

Your story of the people you met in Brazil spoke to me.
I tell you, I was greatly moved. It took a great deal of self-control to hold back tears. Their thirst for knowledge about the culture is deep and genuine. And they truly want to look up to us to help guide them in their journey.

9jakool:

The funny thing is while these people are yearning hard to claim their Yoruba/African ancestry that was robbed from them, some of our own people are knowingly throwing away their identity.
Indeed. But make no mistakes. Our connection across the Atlantic will be repaired. It is only a matter of time. But first, there must be a cultural revolution within the core Yoruba enclave of SW Nigeria. And you shouldn't be surprised when I say that these Yorubas in South America, Carribean and West Indies are gonna play a major role in this revolution.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 7:58pm On Jul 01, 2017
YungMillionaire:

Interesting. What's your opinion of the Chinese influencing our elections by funding pro-Chinese investment candidates?

Well the Chinese are here (Nigeria/Africa) mainly because of the natural resources and growing market. Nigerian Democracy is big business for China. The Chinese can actually choose their 'own' candidate now. While in the past foreign investors had to deal with the powers that be at the time. Remember the Lebanese (when they came during the Military era) could only bribe the military administrators for economic access. The Lebanese did very well but no business like Democracy business - the Chinese are making a killing. If we are not careful, they will own 50% of Africa before 2050.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 7:45pm On Jul 01, 2017
YungMillionaire:

You have a point. But I doubt some1 like Akin is even interested in going into politics full time.

You are right, I am not interested. But I have no problem strategizing behind the scenes. I am currently working with a couple of candidates (Pro-Yoruba Nationalists) in my home state. Nigeria is nations within a single nation. All those people doing one Nigeria are avoiding reality. When the time comes each people have to be ready to move forward.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 7:31pm On Jul 01, 2017
9jakool:

I see the foolery is getting to a few elements of Yoruba folks as well. You see that some ignorant folks are claiming that Oduduwa came from Meccah, because Mohammed was from there. Also when they go on hajj, they see the glitter of Meccah (which is a result of Saudi's oil) meanwhile forgetting that when Ile-Ife was an urban center of trade and culture, Meccah was just a small village in the Arabian desert.
Trust me few things are more vexing to me than this Mecca origin business - probably an idea promoted by some Arabs to promote Islam. It makes zero sense. And lacks zero cultural evidence.

9jakool:

It even gets more ridiculous when the Awujale was claiming that Ijebus are from Sudan when their founder, Obanta was from Ile-Ife. At the same time, they worry why their brothers, the Remos who are sworn Ife descendants constantly disassociate themselves from the Ijebus. You cannot spit in a pot of soup and expect someone else to eat it with you. I know many Ijebus don't buy that nonsense, but there are some very unfortunate folks out there who would rather claim to be descendant from some far fetched place. Even with this, I agree that Yorubas are faring better in comparison to other ethnic groups.
Thanks for the emboldened gem.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 6:03pm On Jul 01, 2017
ColonelDrake:

You're wrong. "especially the Christians" This is very false. We know those who suck Buhari and Fulani balls on here and in the real world. And they're not Christians. we also know those who have been in the fore front of restructuring/regionalism.

YOU are dead wrong. You are confusing CULTURE with POLITICS. Now answer me this (truthfully):

Which of the two religions promote the destruction of traditional shrines and cultural monuments the most?

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 5:52pm On Jul 01, 2017
YungMillionaire:

I like the way you crystallized some of these recent history in light of what is happening today. You know I have ALWAYS suspected Peter Obi to be one of Kanu's sponsors. I know he is currently working with IBB to push for his candidacy in 2019.

Obi is using Kanu to position his presidential candidacy. However, Kanu is like the proverbial tiger - you might have fun riding it but its very likely you end up in its mouth. Rochas is definitely Babangida's choice for now. Everyone knows Buhari is close to expiration. The consequent political confusion will surely test Nigeria's fragile unity. This is when the secessionist voices would become even louder - we never see anything yet.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 5:34pm On Jul 01, 2017
FisifunKododada:


This is very good. CC Akinphysicist

The writer is absolutely spot on. Nigerians underestimate the extent to which these two foreign religion have devastated our traditional cultures. The Yorubas are still faring better - go to the North and see how entire cultures have gone completely extinct because of Islam. And I mean COMPLETELY.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 5:20pm On Jul 01, 2017
FisifunKododada:

Some of our people have lost their minds to foreign religions. But I believe many will come around. The Ife line runs deep. Akin what's your opinion on the Yorubas in Akoko-Edo?

Our map goes up to North-Eastern Ondo. If the Yorubas in Akoko-Edo want to be counted then it is left for them to stand up - ki won gberra. The new Republic must comprise of people whose heart and minds are FULLY committed to the progress of the Yoruba people and culture. One of the major problems with this current contraption is a lack of full commitment due to major cultural differences - the Northerners think they are born to rule; the Ibos think they are superior Jews from Galilee; and we Yorubas think both of them are raging mad.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 5:01pm On Jul 01, 2017
deedeedee1:

You are right. Some Yoruba christians guys will not want to marry a yoruba muslim girl but will rather marry an Igbo or south south, because they practise same faith. It does matter to them if they speak the same native language or practise same culture. Parents are not even helping. Especially these days.
It is really annoying i tell you.

My guy you are absolutely right. For many Yorubas (especially the Christians) foreign religion has become far more important than culture. For them, discarding their cultural affiliation is a small price to pay for 'heaven' in the 'bosom' of the Palestinian, Jesus. In the event of a Nigerian break-up, the first order business for Oduduwa nation is a serious cultural re-orientation of our people.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 4:43pm On Jul 01, 2017
YungMillionaire:


body dey joor. That Ipob-Massob thing is funny abeg grin grin grin grin grin

The thing funny but na true o! Our people forget the basic law of consequence. If you see a tortoise on top a fence, definitely somebody MUST have put it there. Kanu was a struggling student in the UK trying to make ends meet. Then he discovered Biafran business but Fidelis Onwuzurike cornered all the SE politicking shush money. Kanu became enraged and decided to encroach on the market. Now, that Kanu is becoming a political threat to Obiano and Peter Obi (these are Kanu's sponsors - quote me anywhere) he will either have to look for other money bags and fizzle out like his senior 'brother' Fidelis.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 4:28pm On Jul 01, 2017
YungMillionaire:

Akin how far? As always I trust you to focus on the core of issues. From Boko Haram to Boko Haram insurgency. Fascinating.

YungMill - I dey kampe. How body? Unfortunately, Nigerians are poor historians. Even very recent history. Also, I will have you know that there would not be an Ipob IF MASSOB had not be unwilling to generously share the bribe (given by SE politicians) with Kanu.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 4:14pm On Jul 01, 2017
deedeedee1:

Useless Yoruba Christians and Muslims.
Lolz!!!

Guy - you have no idea how irritating some (Not all) of those people can be. They love Jewish culture more than the Jews themselves. They love Arab culture more than the Arabs themselves.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 4:12pm On Jul 01, 2017
FisifunKododada:

You know - I have always wondered why that guy was murdered like that. Now, I see how he was a serious threat to the 'family business of the Northern overnight billionaires.

They murdered him because he was a serious threat to their kwaraption business. Anyway, the issue has to be politically forced. The day secession enters the ballot will be the beginning of the end. The seeds are already there, we just need to nurture.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 3:59pm On Jul 01, 2017
FisifunKododada:


Very depressing I must say. So what do you think is the way forward?

Make no mistakes. There is a way forward.We force the issue by encouraging and promoting secessionist forces across the country. Plain and simple. There are secessionist forces within the three major tribes. The secessionist forces in the North want a Sharia ONLY nation. Remember that Boko Haram's founder was a secessionist of this kind. The Northern elites (fearing that he was making serious inroads in the hearts and minds of many Northern Muslims) murdered him in his jail cell. His murder led to what we know today as Boko Haram - the insurgency. However, the idea of a SHARIA only country is still alive and well in the North. This people love Mohammed/Islam more than their own lives. Continuously feed them a vision of a country were ISLAM is ABSOLUTE and they will uproot the political elites eventually.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 3:38pm On Jul 01, 2017
FisifunKododada:


So do you think a Nigerian break up is imminent?

Absolutely not. The greedy, visionLESS forces holding Nigeria together would rather burn the country to the ground than see a restructuring let alone a break-up. The last time I was in Abuja, I sat down with the thirty something year old son of one of the Northern political billionaires (you know the people who make their money by literally diverting government funds allocated for human/infrastructural development). Anyway, this guy basically said that Nigerian politics is their family business to be passed done from generation to generation. Nigeria is big business. The people who are making a killing are not gonna wake up one morning and hand it over. Not happening. At least not anytime soon.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 3:24pm On Jul 01, 2017
FisifunKododada:


Akin (longest time). Which one be efulefu Yorubas again? grin

Fisi, no need to mention names. They know themselves. I have been traveling for work. BZ like a modafvcker.

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Politics / Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AkinPhysicist: 3:13pm On Jul 01, 2017
We don't need efulefu Yorubas in our Oduduwa Republic. We will be willing to cooperate with anyone who wants to cooperate with us. Not dissimilar to the way the US works together with Britain on international issues. We seek a YORUBA nation were Yoruba language and culture will be at the forefront. We don't want some minorities to start complaining that we are marginalizing them - like some Iboes are crying in Akure because we told them they must respect our way of life. Many Nigerian Yorubas are ignorant of the strength of our culture. Four years ago, I visited Bahia in Brazil. I attended a festival and when the people discovered I was a Yoruba from Nigeria, they were all over me. They were asking a million questions at a time/inviting me to their homes. They treated me like a cousin they have not seen in years. Come and see young/old Brazilians playing the talking drums; dancing; dropping Orisa names like Sango, Obatala etc.Some of those people are more Yoruba than some of the useless Yoruba Christians and Muslims we have in Nigeria.

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Culture / Re: Why Do Kogi Central (Ebira) People Call Ihima and Adavi People Yoruba? by AkinPhysicist: 1:29am On Jun 05, 2017
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Religion / Re: Powerful Ebos (sacrifices) At The Back Of My Shrine [picture] by AkinPhysicist: 1:21am On Jun 05, 2017
This is IFA's thread. If you don't like it please locate your thread of gods of men shap shap. Pastor Suleiman needs more offerings.

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Religion / Re: Powerful Ebos (sacrifices) At The Back Of My Shrine [picture] by AkinPhysicist: 1:19am On Jun 05, 2017
leofab:
keep quiet; you are excited practicing s borrowed practice but not happy to promote yours.. inferiority complex comes to mind..

Don't mind them. They are so brain-washed that they don't even realize it.

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