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hajide:
Tried putting two nd two together nd I finally come up with the fact that with this your Quote you are actually here for the sake of argument nd nothing else.

If you are so interested in Lugatu-l arabiyyah don't be too shy and proud to seek the knowledge OK?

Now listen: ILAH, ILLAHA are same words meaning God, the plural of which is "Aaliha"
The article "Al" meaning "THE" is used to indicate the one true God. When put together: AL-ILAH you drop the first letter for ease of pronunciation then it becomes ALLAH.
Hope you get that....thanks

You completely left out the word LAH.

In the shahada, the ilaha or ilah is translated as "god" not God! (No god but allah)

If we are to call the name correctly, it should be "The Lah"

Little research proved "Lah" is an ancient moon god worshiped by the Arabs during the pre-islamic period.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iah

U09ce:
You tried bro. You got the "Alhamd" part. It is actual Al-hamdu li llah. The LAH is actually Allah. Thus, it means Thanks to Allah.
Thanks for asking. Have a great day

Thanks for your response!
"AL" is also a word standing on it's own. Meaning AL-Lah is a combination of two words.

A little research shows "Lah" is an ancient moon god worshiped during the pre-islamic period.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iah

In Arabic, the word "AL" simply means "The"

Even the Islamic prophet Ibrahim called the moon his Lord.
Sura 6:77.

How can we find the word "lah" from Islamic sources, where the Islamic god called himself Lah, or was it human that gave him the name?

hajide:
"Lah" as in "ILAH" meaning God. Shortened for ease of pronunciation

Lah and Illah or illaha are not the same words!

When you say the shahada, you say ; La ilaha illa Allah.

Translation: No god but allah
La illah illa allah

Ilaha and Ilah are the same.

The word Allah are two words joined together.

In Arabic, AL means "the" so what will AL-LAH now means. Then we can find the meaning of LAH.

womenareapes:
in Islam religion,

Hellfire is only for the Christian (so them think)

Them believed in the concept and ideology of 77virgin hence you must self destroy yourself (jihad) to acquire the 77virgin in paradise

It's 72 virgins, not 77.

Besides, the Quran never told them to do Sallah 5 times a day...

U09ce:
Alhamdulillah.

What is
the meaning of Alhamdulillah

I understand they are 3 words joined together.

Alhamdu lil lah
Thanks to Lah

What is LAH?

K

AntiChristian:
Sorry, I thought you were reasonable ni!

Pele! May you be healed soon!

Yeah, depending on your definition of the word "reasonable"

I strongly believe you are reasonable and can't use water from a WELL where human pupoo, menstrual pads and other dirty have been thrown into.

In the case of your Prophet,
Sahih al-bukhari 58:17 says;

He was bewitched (Magic was done on him)
And He began to imagine something the opposite way.

AntiChristian:
How does "nothing defiles water" contradict "do not urinate in a standing water"?

The Prophet salallahu'alayhi wasalam performed ablution with that water then that means the water is permissible for ablution!

The Prophet is reported to have forbidden his followers to urinate in stagnant water. (Muslim)

The general rule is that nothing can make water impure unless it alters the water’s smell, taste, or color.

With regard to the hadith you quoted, the following remarks are not out of place.

Imam al-Khattabi said that it should not be understood that the companions were not the ones who used to throw dead dogs or menstrual clothes into the well of Buda`ah. The companions were the cleanest ever people. It is not even accepted that non-Muslim people of that time used to do that. (Ma`alim al-Sunan, 1/37)

Further, it was the heavy rain that throw these things into the well of Buda`ah; the well itself is pure. Scholars held that much water is not affected by little impurities according to the hadith which states if the water reaches two qullahs in volume, it will not become impure due to impurities.

The exact quantity of the qullah is a controversial issue. Several estimates were given to this quantity. One opinion holds that the qullah is equivalent to 375 milliliters. Of course, the well of Buda`ah is so large that it wouldn’t be impure if there was such filth in it.

Moreover, the hadith is talking about ablution and nothing more since Muslims have to purify themselves before the five daily prayers. So the Prophet (peace be upon him) never claimed that Muslims can drink impure water.Misconception About Hadith Regarding Hygiene - About Islam

Imam al-Tahawi said that the well of Buda`ah was like a rive leading to a garden. This means that the water is always running and it is not stagnant. Therefore, the Prophet declared it to be a pure source of water.

Other scholars maintained that when the Prophet said: “Water is pure”, he was referring to the water of the well of Buda`ah. This means that the Prophet was confirming the purity of this well as it is too large to be contaminated by the impurities that were thrown into it by the heavy rain.

I hope this answers your question.

Thank you for at least not throwing the same words back at me...

If I say nothing can defiled water, it means nothing can actually defiled water, whether human pupoo or urine can't defiled it.

When your prophet said "Nothing can defiled water" was urine excluded?

Your prophet warned you not to perform wudu from a standing water that you urinate into, because it has been defiled by your urine (or others urine).

Now, that contradict your Prophet stands that nothing can defiled water.

All stories you added up there are stories made up by you... as the Hadith never said all that...

Well is a standing water and your Prophet never mentioned the size of the well that's o.k and the size of a well that's not ok.

He also never mentioned the size of a standing water that is ok and the size of a standing water that is not o.k.

But in your own imagination (which is wrong)
You made the size of the standing water the size of a swimming pool, while you made the size of the well the largest well on earth.

Now, my last question, how large is a WELL?

When the Hadith made mentioned of a WELL, it's just the normal well we all know.

So, don't play the game of large here.

Infact, in Arabia, their well don't normally have enough water as such..

Because, there are instances where your Prophet followers finished water from a well in a spot. And the report of other dried well in that area.

So, Arabia is not even a water area, and besides, using water from a well with human wastes thrown into and other dirty is a highly contaminated and a defiled water, NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT.

AntiChristian:
If you can't answer those questions then stop my mentions!

You can't returned the question back to me.

You just have to answer The following questions and stop playing games.

Your prophet said;

*Water is pure, and nothing defiled it

*None of you should urinate and then perform wudu from a standing water.

(That alone contradict his stands on nothing defiled water...)

*Your prophet perform wudu from a standing water where human pupoo, menstrual rags for women and dead dog bodies were thrown into.

Is it only urine that can defile water?

Treat the questions please, and stop beating about the bush.

If you don't want anyone to mention you, you need to stop commenting here...

AntiChristian:
Since you're trying to explain the Hadith for us then answer the last questions! Otherwise just vamoose!

I have nothing to answer you, rather, you are the one that actually need to answer me...

Your prophet said, Nothing can defiled water,

But he said, you shouldn't perform wudu from a standing water that have been urinated into...

*Tell me Why he said you should not urinate in a standing water and also perform wudu from it... since nothing can defiled water?

*Tell me why your Prophet himself performed wudu from a standing water that has not only urine, but, human pupoo, menstrual rags for women and dead dog bodies.. what he told his followers not to do?

Over to you.. !

AntiChristian:
What's the definition of dirty?

What's the definition of dirty water?

What water can be used for ablution & Ghusl in Islam?

Stop confusing yourself with irrelevant questions!

You are now trying to play games of wudu and ghusl.

In Sunan an-Nasa'i
Book 4 Hadith No 2
Your prophet said;

"None of you should urinate in a STANDING water and then perform ghusl or wudu with it".

And that contradict what your Prophet said that,
Nothing can defiled water, that water is pure.

If urine can defiled water, can't human pupoo, menstrual rags for women and body of dead dogs also defiled it?

advocatejare:

Scientific consensus nko

Hahaha... Nice one bros...

Their are so much issues in Hadith and Quran the Muslims can't address...

They keep beating about the bush...

AntiChristian:
Nothing concerns us with how large it is. How much water is there?

The water in the well far exceeds the impurities in it.




Performing Ghusl in standing water is improper! This is like washing yourself in a swimming pool after copulation!
I don't know what is unclear here!

The correct scholarly view is that the water is not to be deemed impure unless it is changed by that impurity, whether the water was a small or great amount.

The Hadith never gave us any size of a water that will make it improper to perform ghusl. You just turned it to a size of a swimming pool.

Thank God you said that by yourself...

Performing ghusl from stagnant water is improper...

Now, your Prophet has performed wudu from more worser dirty water... Now, you made mentioned of swimming pool, even while the prophet never said swimming pool.

He only said, don't do ghusl in a standing water.

In your own defence, you likened the stagnant water into the size of a swimming pool,

While you turned a WELL into the size of a SEA

The water your Prophet used was the one
*human pupoo are thrown into
*Menstrual rags are thrown into
*Dead animals are thrown into
*garbage, dirty from people houses are thrown into.

Your prophet used such water to the surprise of people around him!

How can you say the water far exceed the impurity, while those around him were shocked, because nobody does that...

The water is where the people throw their dirty things.

Even if the water is a size of a football stadium, (though the Hadith said it's a WELL)

You can imagine how stinky that will be!!!

ibrahass:
Point of correction, prophet Muhammad, never die of poison.

You're ignorant of your religion.

Muhammad actually died by food poisoning.

Read
Sahih al-bukhari
Book 64 Hadith No 450

Kubernetes:
Rule 2 please

I have broken no rule...
Re-check all my post...

I have not abuse anyone here, because my God Jesus Christ has forbidden me from doing that...

AntiChristian:
The basic principle is:
If something impure falls into a large amount of water, but it does not change any of its characteristics, be it taste, colour or smell. This water is taahir (pure), according to scholarly consensus.

Ask for clarification! Don't just present things like a cantankerous liar!

Hahaha... I should ask for clarification from who?

I wonder how you guys think.
How large is a stagnant "WELL WATER"?

A well where human pupoo,menstrual rags for women and dead dog bodies thrown into.

It's wasn't a normal thing for the Arab to do, as they were shocked by your Prophet action.

A man asked your Prophet;

"Are you performing wudu from it when garbage is thrown into it"?
Sunan an-Nasa'i
2:3

The man was surprised, cause he knows how dirty the water is.

Your prophet earlier said;
None should perform ghusl in a standing water.
Sunan an-Nasa'i
2 Hadith No 7

He is not only doing wudu from a standing water, but from a standing WELL.

fortran12:
The prophet was a dirty man. There is an instance where he had multiple sessions with his wives and did not even take a bath in between

He even washed himself from a well with dogs dead bodies, menstrual rags and other dirty throw into.

Take note of the word:
*well (stagnant water)
*Dead dogs bodies (many dogs bodies)
*garbage (you can all what makes up a garbage)

That was the water their prophet was performing ablution with.

Ask an average Muslim if he can do that, make sure you watch his/her face as you asked.

Hadith Reference
Sunna an-Nasa'i
Book 2 Hadith No 2

YakubuA:
It actually works but not everyone has access to it.

If it actually works, Muhammad your Prophet won't have died of food poisoning...

AntiChristian:
You can say someone is dirty when he does not wash!

Use your brain!

Actually, not all washing is washing to remove dirty, it's just a wash for religious ritual...

In Sunan an-Nasa'i book 2 Hadith number 2
Muhammad your Prophet did his washing from a dirty well water where...

*Menstrual rags for women,
*Dead dog bodies
*Garbage

Were thrown into and your Prophet performed wudu(washed) from it.

So, not all washing is washing.
We know what washing is when we see one.

MasterKernel:
Why didn't you add all the Stadiums, Mosques and Large factories?

God bless you, I was about to say that...

Christians are just too simple, and they decide to mistake their simpleness for foolishness...

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Gartol:
lol you have started putting your words in the Quran as usual. This creation prophet was talking about was in HEAVEN, the paradise where Adam stayed. I have answered your question but you still keep on repeating it.
Lol you even added haven to make 8?

And you are not been truthful why did you stop the hadith that mentioned clay, and start using the one that mentioned earth? Brother you are funny very funny. Earth in this verse mean clay or sand.

The other previous descriptions of the earth creation didn't mention days why? Because it is 6 long period of time. I knew you will still use questions to answer questions typical what you have been doing. Never have you answered any question. May God deliver you.

And the creation of heaven is clearly mentioned two days in the previous surah why are you now saying the last day will be heaven creation? You are just contradicting yourself and shooting yourself in the leg.

The hadith you are referring to I have told you several times that it was the creation of Adam in heaven. Instead of you to say you don't beleive you start your mind games again. Lol let me educate you since you want to be ignorant.

Read suratul baqarah. After Adam was created? That's Friday he was in paradise with the angels. He knew what they did not know(Angels) and God thought him many things. So God asked the angels to bow down to him in respect only ibliss(satan), i(bliss was a jinn not an angel but God honoured him because he was a good creation then, he was elevated among the Angels) not bow he said why will I bow when I was created from fire and he was created from earth(meaning clay) the word you have been twisting. So God sent him out he was casted out of paradise. If earth was where it's been referred to then where did God cast him to?

Furthermore, after the creation he was in paradise after the creation, stayed there for sometime before God made eve from his ribs.
They stayed until iblis deceived them and made them eat the forbidden fruit. It was then they were casted out to earth..

And thank God your previous hadith used clay but I don't know why you abandoned it making it seem like the once that use earth means the world. And when prophet Muhammed (saw) said light was created in heaven maybe another source of light(it didn't mention the sun) where will the light be? I am asking you where will it be?? Is it not in the heavens?? But typically you still later said so they didn't mention heaven so the last day will be use to create heaven. Lol

All your evidence are just contradicting themselves. Please learn more you haven't even learnt more about your bible sef. GOD forbid someone point out contradictions and i am not able to answer to them. Not even try. You don't have to be a scholar. Not even 1 just 1 brother. Even me sef I dey shame for you. You should really start questioning your knowledge of the bible. Imagine someone saying I am a bastard. I will prove him wrong instantly by showing him my father. Because we look just like twins. And here you are a so called Christian cant even defend his Holy book.

Dont let my words hurt you but it's a fact. And the truth must be spoken. But sorry to say you are weak seriously. With all these insults I personally hurl at you o am triggering you to answer my questions judiciously with facts and science. Even though some are not even possible. But of you don't you are a COWARD.
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The description prophet Muhammed (saw) was the heavens description. The bible and Quran way of creation is different. I beleive in the bible Adam was created on earth in the garden of eden. In Islam he was created in heaven and stayed in paradise until he sinned.

But after I clearly mentioned and buttress my point you are still saying NO. Why because you don't want to accept. I have answered to all your questions . And the hadith you posted earlier clearly exposed you. Why ain't you using it again. When the word there was clay. You looked for another one which says earth.


You are not a truthful person. Typical of you. Posing questions without answering. I have asked you a lot of questions you said you don't have a problem answering them if you know you are sure if yourself why not answer them??

The earth was already in place when Adam's place was built. Where he stayed (paradise is where the prophet was describing) but as a cunning man that you are despite the fact that it is mentioned in the Quran that the heaven is created in two spans of time and adorned with the source of light you still managed to say the remaining one day is what is left of heaven. Where did the prophet say the last day was for heaven? Trying to put your words in his mouth.

So you won't still answer any questions? How can I even be sure you know your bible when you can't defend it And you call yourself a true Christian? I would rather be an atheist than see someone talk bad about my scripture and I am helpless or I am not able to defend it. You say it is the word if God and you beleive in it but you can't even defend it.



You saying you will answer my questions even If they are a 1000 you have not even answered one. You don't look like someone who is fierce sef you are weak . A weak Christian. I challenge you I repeat I challenge you defend your bible if you are truthful. All you have been doing is questioning and questioning not even a single question you have answered.

There is no point replying to your mentions again. What's the point? You are not even convincing. If jesus was this weak nobody would have listened to him. Imagine with all the allegations you cant even convince me or at least defend yourself. I guess maybe you are not sharp enough learn more and InshAllah if God keep me alive we might have this debate another time. Take Care and run away as usual


I will like to end my talk with this verse of the Quran 2 verse 79 which says woe to those who write the scriptures with thier own hand and say this is from Allah in other to exchange it for a miserable price, woe to whatever they write and woe to whatever they earn.

You actually mention Heaven is the paradise where Adam lived.

You even wrote the "heaven" in capital.

Now you denied it...

Read your above statements and you will see where you said "HEAVEN THE PARADISE WHERE ADAM STAYED"

Gartol:
paradise where Adam stayed. Hahaha guy you have compression problem o. Where did I say heaven mehn run off as usual. No questions answered yet. Lol you are just sounding more funny and funny. I said the heaven and the earths were already completed. I particularly emphasis of the paradise. No questions answered yet Lol guy you no go kill person I swear .

Yiu have started putting your words in the Quran. Allah said he created heaven and earth in six days.

The hadith you posted prophet Muhammed said Allah created the paradise where Adam stayed from Saturday to Friday. Simple I dont know who is contradicting now. The heavens was there already that's why I went far as telling you about Angel's and al that. The Angel's came before men. So when Allah wanted to create Adam he made the paradise which prophet Muhammed (saw) described simple.

Even my 6 year old cousin sef no get this kind comprehension problem. I particularly emphasized and said paradise where he stayed.
Maybe your bible has got different meaning sha I no blame you

In Islam heaven means-Qiyama
Paradise means-Al jahnaa
So, Qiyama came before al-jannah. Qiyama is where Allah and the Angel's are. So when he wanted to create Adam he built jannah. Not heaven.

The jannah (paradise) is what be built from Saturday to Friday (not heaven).... it's just like building a duplex maybe you have built for 40 long years and you them decided to build a bQ. You understand now right?


Another questioning again yet no answer? You disappoint me big time guy. And you disappoint your fellows as well. No need replying you again. Because its obvious you are just dodging questions as well as twisting them. Peace abeg you are too cunning. No mention me again abeg make he no be like say na mumu I dey follow talk. I thought you were an intelligent type I swear. Goodluck in your endeavor. Dey your dey make I dey my dey

You have not answered me...

You're still not making sense since Allah said he created everything in Heaven and on Earth including Paradise in six days...

If the Hadith was talking about 7 days creation.

How did Allah say he created the heaven and the earth and everything in it in six days.

How do you come to the conclusion that, only paradise/heaven was created in 7days?

Whatever way we follow, it can't change anything.

Gartol:
lol you have started putting your words in the Quran as usual. This creation prophet was talking about was in HEAVEN, the paradise where Adam stayed. I have answered your question but you still keep on repeating it.
Lol you even added haven to make 8?

And you are not been truthful why did you stop the hadith that mentioned clay, and start using the one that mentioned earth? Brother you are funny very funny. Earth in this verse mean clay or sand.

The other previous descriptions of the earth creation didn't mention days why? Because it is 6 long period of time. I knew you will still use questions to answer questions typical what you have been doing. Never have you answered any question. May God deliver you.

And the creation of heaven is clearly mentioned two days in the previous surah why are you now saying the last day will be heaven creation? You are just contradicting yourself and shooting yourself in the leg.

The hadith you are referring to I have told you several times that it was the creation of Adam in heaven. Instead of you to say you don't beleive you start your mind games again. Lol let me educate you since you want to be ignorant.

Read suratul baqarah. After Adam was created? That's Friday he was in paradise with the angels. He knew what they did not know(Angels) and God thought him many things. So God asked the angels to bow down to him in respect only ibliss(satan), i(bliss was a jinn not an angel but God honoured him because he was a good creation then, he was elevated among the Angels) not bow he said why will I bow when I was created from fire and he was created from earth(meaning clay) the word you have been twisting. So God sent him out he was casted out of paradise. If earth was where it's been referred to then where did God cast him to?

Furthermore, after the creation he was in paradise after the creation, stayed there for sometime before God made eve from his ribs.
They stayed until iblis deceived them and made them eat the forbidden fruit. It was then they were casted out to earth..

And thank God your previous hadith used clay but I don't know why you abandoned it making it seem like the once that use earth means the world. And when prophet Muhammed (saw) said light was created in heaven maybe another source of light(it didn't mention the sun) where will the light be? I am asking you where will it be?? Is it not in the heavens?? But typically you still later said so they didn't mention heaven so the last day will be use to create heaven. Lol

All your evidence are just contradicting themselves. Please learn more you haven't even learnt more about your bible sef. GOD forbid someone point out contradictions and i am not able to answer to them. Not even try. You don't have to be a scholar. Not even 1 just 1 brother. Even me sef I dey shame for you. You should really start questioning your knowledge of the bible. Imagine someone saying I am a bastard. I will prove him wrong instantly by showing him my father. Because we look just like twins. And here you are a so called Christian cant even defend his Holy book.

Dont let my words hurt you but it's a fact. And the truth must be spoken. But sorry to say you are weak seriously. With all these insults I personally hurl at you o am triggering you to answer my questions judiciously with facts and science. Even though some are not even possible. But of you don't you are a COWARD.
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The description prophet Muhammed (saw) was the heavens description. The bible and Quran way of creation is different. I beleive in the bible Adam was created on earth in the garden of eden. In Islam he was created in heaven and stayed in paradise until he sinned.

But after I clearly mentioned and buttress my point you are still saying NO. Why because you don't want to accept. I have answered to all your questions . And the hadith you posted earlier clearly exposed you. Why ain't you using it again. When the word there was clay. You looked for another one which says earth.


You are not a truthful person. Typical of you. Posing questions without answering. I have asked you a lot of questions you said you don't have a problem answering them if you know you are sure if yourself why not answer them??

The earth was already in place when Adam's place was built. Where he stayed (paradise is where the prophet was describing) but as a cunning man that you are despite the fact that it is mentioned in the Quran that the heaven is created in two spans of time and adorned with the source of light you still managed to say the remaining one day is what is left of heaven. Where did the prophet say the last day was for heaven? Trying to put your words in his mouth.

So you won't still answer any questions? How can I even be sure you know your bible when you can't defend it And you call yourself a true Christian? I would rather be an atheist than see someone talk bad about my scripture and I am helpless or I am not able to defend it. You say it is the word if God and you beleive in it but you can't even defend it.



You saying you will answer my questions even If they are a 1000 you have not even answered one. You don't look like someone who is fierce sef you are weak . A weak Christian. I challenge you I repeat I challenge you defend your bible if you are truthful. All you have been doing is questioning and questioning not even a single question you have answered.

There is no point replying to your mentions again. What's the point? You are not even convincing. If jesus was this weak nobody would have listened to him. Imagine with all the allegations you cant even convince me or at least defend yourself. I guess maybe you are not sharp enough learn more and InshAllah if God keep me alive we might have this debate another time. Take Care and run away as usual


I will like to end my talk with this verse of the Quran 2 verse 79 which says woe to those who write the scriptures with thier own hand and say this is from Allah in other to exchange it for a miserable price, woe to whatever they write and woe to whatever they earn.

Let me get you busted on this...

Allah said he created the Heaven and Earth in SIX days.

How then do you say Allah created the heaven only in 7days. (From Saturday to Friday).

You're even contradicting yourself, and that's a disaster for you.

Did Allah created the heaven in 7 days?

Hahaha hahaha.. whatever way you follow, you can't still escape.

Gartol:
1) Astronomy
GENESIS CHAPTER 1
THE bible said earth was created in 6 days of evening and morning. We have come to know that that's unscientific the earth we know today according to the Quran is created within 6 (ayam) which means 6 long days. Some translator even use 6 spans to make it clear.scientists say its possible agreeing with the Quran since the creation of earth is 4.5 billion years or so. Which matches with science.

2. It says light was created on the first day. And the sun and moons and stars (source of light)on the fourth day. How is that possible. You said he created a temporary light how can there be a temporary light without a source? Or light will just be light?

3. It further says in the book of Genesis that earth was created on the 3rd day, how can you have a night and day without earth?

4. Genesis chapter no 1 verse 9-13 said earth was created on the 3rd day and 14- 19 sun was created on the fourth day. I have asked this question earlier you dodge it as usual. Today science tells us that earth is part of the parent body of the sun, it cannot be in existence before the sun its unscientific.

5. Genesis chapter 1 vs 16: it says God created two lights the greater light to rule the day and the lesser to rule the night. I have asked this one earlier too you dodge it as usual. How can moon have it's own light when we know moons light is a reflected light that's unscientific

6. The bible says the world will perish at the same time said it will exist forever.
Its mentioned in the book of Hebrew chapter 1 verse 10-11 and the book of psalms chapter 102 verse 25-26: that Almighty God create the heaven and earth and they will perish. Exactly opposite is mentioned in book of ecclesiastes chapter 1 verse 4 that the earth and heaven will live forever. Contradictions

7.Bible says in job 26 verse 11 that the pillars of the heaven will tremble. We all know that the heavens have no pillar another contradiction??

8.fisrt book of Samuels chapter 2 verse 8 and book of job chapter 9 vs 6 that even the earth has got pillars Contradictions?? We all know the earth has no pillars

9. In Gospel of mark chapter no 16 verse 17 and 18.
It tells us on how to identify a true Christian beleiver. Jesus says that there would be signs for true believers and some of the signs is that in his name they will cast out devil,they shall take up serpents, they shall speak foreign tongues and if they drink deadly poison they will not die. Brother can you please take HCL acid concentrated ones and speak in foreign tongues to proof you are a true believer?

10. In the bible, genesis chapter 9 verse no 13-17 says I have put on rainbow as a sign that I will not submerged the earth in water again. Now I know you might say as the earth never been submerged in water I am not disputing that. But it says he has put up rainbow that means the rainbow never existed before. But today we know very well that rainbow is the refraction of sunlight with rain or mist. So you are telling me that there has not been any refraction taking place to cause rainbow before the great flood?. To say it is not there before Noah's time means that the law of refraction did not exist before Noah's existence??

2.MEDICINE
IN THE book of leviticus chapter 2-4 verse 49-53 gives and tells us a way of disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy. It says take two bird, kill one bird take water dip the other bird in water and sprinkle the house 7 times. Sprinkle the house with blood? To disinfect plague of leprosy?I hope you don't use this method to disinfect plague like coronavirus lol.

2.Furthermore in the book of leviticus chapter 12
verse 1-5 the bible says when a woman give birth we know she is mostly unclean yes. The bible say if it's a Male its 40 days and female 80 days which is totally wrong as what we know today. The bible should please enlighten us where it Got its own.

3.MATHEMATICS
Book of ezra chapter 2 verse 65 says. There are 200 singing men and women
And in the same context referring to the same people book of Nehemia chapter 7 vs 67 says there are 245 singing men and women. GOD does not know maths again. He cant even know the exact numbers of people singing when he has eyes everywhere?


2. It is mentioned in the second kings chapter 24 verse 8 that jehoiachin was 18 years when he began to reign in Jerusalem and he reign for 3 months and 10 days in the same bible 2 chronicles chapter 36 verse no 9 said jehoiachin was 8 years when began to reign and he reign for 3 months 10 days. God does not know the age of his creations again Contradicting hansel again.

3.1 king chapter 7 verse 26.it says Solomon has 2000 baths. The same bible says in 2 chronicles chapter 4 verse 5 it says he has 3000 baths so God contradicting again he doesn't know the no of times Solomon had baths and starts confusion by mentioning 2000 or 3000

4.it is mentioned in 1 king chapter 15 verse 33 that Asa king of judah reigned for 24 years and 2 chronicles chapter 16 verse 1 says bassa invaded judah in the 36th year of the reign of asa. How can bassa invade judah 10 years after asa's death? God cant keep records again .

Biology
Furthermore the bible says that hare chew the cud, we all know that it has been proven that hares does not have multiple stomach they only have one stomach so how can they chew the cud


Let me stop here please kindly answer to this questions judiciously because the ones I still have is more than 100 but time does not permit me to type all. And PLEASE AND PLEASE EVEN IF TOU ARE GOING TO ASK ME QUESTIONS ANSWER THESE ONES I ASKED FIRST YOU KNOW I ANSWERED YOU QUESTIONS BEFORE ASKING ANOTHER DON'T START ASKING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE ARGUMENT.

YOU LAUGH AT MY ANSWERS OR DISCREDIE THEM. I CANT FORCE YOU TO ACCEPT THEM BUT PLEASE AT LEAST YOU TOO ANSWER AND LET YOUR ANSWERS BE REASONABLE. FONT START QUOTING BIBLE VERSE FOR ME AGAIN I HAVE ASKED MY QUESTIONS IN EACH PARAGRAPH ANSWER EACH AND EVERY ONE IN EACH PARAGRAPH TOO AND DON'T MISS OUT ANYONE.


I AM TYPING THIS IN BOLDED SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW YOUR ANSWERS ARR VERY IMPORTANT. FAILURE TO ANSWER JUST ONE OF THE QUESTIONS MEANS THIS DEBATE IS OFF. SO IF YOU CAN ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTION THEN YOU ARE FREE TO ASKE YOUR OWN QUESTIONS.

I REPEAT PLEASE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS DONT ASK QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS

I don't have a single problem with whatever questions you may be asking me...

Only 100...?

Kindly make it 1,000.

And answer my first question earlier send to you.

Ramsak1:
Ok..
Thank you for your observation. As Allah(swt)
rightly said, there are no contradictions in his words only that you need to ask the people who has knowledge of his word so as to clearly understand. Allah gave that challenge some 1440 years ago and none is yet to point out any contradiction whatsoever, so my brother what you have about those verses are mere misunderstandings.
In Q41v9As recorded by Al-Bukhari. (He) created the earth in two Days, means, on Sunday and Monday.
Vs 10 Allah says, He placed therein firm mountains from above it, and He blessed it, means, He blessed it and gave it the potential to be planted with seeds and bring forth produce. And measured therein its sustenance, means, what its people need of provision and places in which to plant things and grow crops in another two days, this was on Tuesday and Wednesday, which together with the two previous days adds up to four days. in four Days equal for all those who ask. meaning, for those who want to ask about that, so that they might know.
Vs 12 Then He completed and finished their creation (as) seven heavens in two Days. means, He finished forming them as seven heavens in two more days, which were Thursday and Friday.
So your 2+4+2=8 calculation is clearly faulty thus inaccurate, as the four days include 2 days for creating the earth plain further two days for placing stuffs such as mountains water vegatation nd the likes on it and another 2 days for creating the heaven.
I hope this helps you. And you should keep looking for those contradictions in good faith of looking for the truth even as there are none, who knows as Allah guides who he wills to the truth.
Salaam.

You just ended up telling me stories...

Sura 41:9
Two days Allah created the earth

Sura 41:10
He placed, mountains, bless it and determined it's creatures in four days.

Creation of the earth and creation of things in the earth we got 6 days...
When we add the other 2 days we have 8 in total.

Your prophet went on to explain
In Sahih Muslims Book 52:10,

The days of Allah creation and what he created;

*Saturday he created clay (Earth)
*Sunday he created Mountains
*Monday he created Trees
*Tuesday created things entailing labour
*Wednesday he created light
*Thursday couse animals to spread
*Adam he created on Friday

We have already seen the list of things created in 7 days, while Heaven is missing in that list.
If we are to add the creation of heaven, we would get 8 days.

I don't think you can explain the Quran more than your Prophet.

Your god contradicted himself for saying he created the the heaven and the earth 6 DAYS

and elsewhere he said 8 DAYS.

Ramsak1:
lol..E gbami fa
were you there when Allah created his creations
xoo..how many days did he used oo
Abi what is this one saying bayii

I wasn't there, but he sent a book that details all that, but unfortunately, I found contradictions in the book, so, I have to asked questions. I believe you will answer me.

See below for the contradiction.

Quran Contradiction No.1

Sura 25:59, 32:4, and Sura 50:38

On the above quoted Quranic verses,
Allah said he created the heaven and the earth and everything inbetween them in six days (6 period )

But he contradicted himself in the following verses;
Sura 41:9
He created the earth in two days (2 period)

Sura 41:10
He created on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface... and determined it's (creatures) in four days (4 period)

Sura 41:12
He completed them as seven heaven and adorned the nearest heaven with lamp (Sun) in two days (2 period)

2+4+2 = 8 days (8 period)

Allah made the challenge that we can't see contradictions in his book.

Gartol:
this was the creation of Adam in paradise you can see, Adam was created last on Friday. It was where Adam was staying before even eve was created from him. Did you see anything sun, stars or moon there?

All these happend in heaven. The hadith you are narrating is the beginning of creation. It was before Adam was chased out of paradise.

And you said I think like an atheist, lol but in Genesis the bible said that God created light and separated it from darkness and called it light and day? How can he call it night and day when the earth hasn't been formed yet? Have you seen NASA pictures and videos in space? The only reason why we have night and day is because of the suns rotation taking effect on earth.




You said the birth of jesus was impossible I agree with you, but isn't that a miracle? How was Adam created he had no father or mother too. How would you even proof to scientists that your scripture is from God?

I know God can sustain without plants without sun. But my own God is logical. How do your scripture want to prove to the scientist that God exists if everything seems illogical? No wonder atheists rubbish your scriptures.


In Islam Allah said in the Quran that the heaven and earth was created simultaneously. Just like the big bang scientist believe in today.

And you never said anything about the moon having it's own light. Is God illogical there too?

Quran speaks about water cycle
Quran speaks about creation of everything from water just like Charles Darwin said
Quran speaks about mountains been stabilizers
Quran speaks about sun revolving about it's own axis
Quran speaks about big bang theory
Quran speaks that the light of the moon is a reflected light
Quran speaks about how the baby is formed in the womb
Quran speaks about earth having a good shape
Quran speaks about plant having sexes both Male and female. All these 1400 years ago.
Peace be unto you.# take care

You're becoming funny...

No time did the Hadith say all that happened was in Heaven... infact, Your Prophet said:

"Allah created the earth on Saturday, Mountains on Sunday... Trees on Monday and light on Wednesday, Animals on Thursday and Adam on Friday.

Again, Your god Allah said in Sura 41:9,10 and 12 On his sequence of creation.

Earth was the first, mountains and creatures were second and Heaven and lamp where last.
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Quran Contradiction No.1

Sura 25:59, 32:4, and Sura 50:38
On the above quoted Quranic verses,
Allah your god said he created the heaven and the earth and everything inbetween them in six days (6 period )

But he contradicted himself in the following verses;
Sura 41:9
He created the earth in two days (2 period)

Sura 41:10
He created on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface... and determined it's (creatures) in four days (4 period)

Sura 41:12
He completed them as seven heaven and adorned the nearest heaven with lamp (Sun) in two days (2 period)

2+4+2 = 8 days (8 period)

Your prophet even went on to say that creation took place from Saturday to Friday.

But since according to the Hadith, Your prophet was bewitched, lets consider that of the Quran only.

Gartol:
have been challenging you now? Bring just one. In revelation alone I can bring out more than 10 contradictions.

Genesis 1 vs 3 said: let there be light how can there be light without the sun? I believe you are a student of science.

Furthermore genesis 1 vs 13 said: God said let there be fruits and seeds: we all know photosynthesis is responsibility for plant growth jow can seeds grow without the sun.

Furthermore the bible said the earth was created before the sun. We all know the sun is like a magnet pulling the earth as a result of this pull making the earth stable. As a result of the magnetic pull the earth revolves around the sun.

Again the bible said God created two lights the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. As a student of science you will agree with me that moon does not have it's own light. The moon light is a reflected light. As Allah mentioned in the Quran surah 25 vs 61 that the sun is a burning lamp and the moons light is a luminous light


We all know the earth can't be in place without the sun.

I can point out more should I go on? That means you have not been following my post. I have posted this earlier. I was arguing with one other brother before you showed up

Hahaha... Your are truly confused!

If a Muslim likes, he will think like an atheist, but if he like too, He can also think as one who believe in the Super Natural Power.

The light in Gen 1 v 3 was a temporary light God commanded to appear.

The light was not from the Sun, and the light remained until the forth day when God finally placed the Sun, Moon and Stars.
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How can seed grows without the Sun

Only in the mind of a naturalistic atheist does the sun have to exist before the earth, because they believe plant life evolved from the effects of the Sun.

They believe in domino effect, and one thing lead to another thing.

But as Christian, we believe plant life was designed and created by God, and He can sustain the plant even without the sun, since God is not bound by the law of science.

The virgin birth of Jesus Christ is scientifically impossible, and has actually not tally with the law of science.

A virgin who has never known a man can't give birth according to science...

But if you think otherwise,
Your prophet in Sahih Muslim
Book 52 Hadith No 10 says;

Allah created the plant three days before he created the light (sun)

Allah created the tree on Monday and created the sun on Wednesday.

Thank God you know photosynthesis, you can explain to me how the trees grows without the Sunlight since your holy book is a book of science.

Gartol:
we are talking about contradictions, we never started with contradictions like I said you quoted an hadith and a verse in the Quran and I replied why are you dodging my questions. You ask me about a particular surah I told you to read the context and you are still relating to that particular verse. Why cant you start from the first verse if you are so sure of yourself. I challenge you

enough said... Bring up the contradictions

Gartol:
lol you are just turning around in circles. Brother you haven't still answered my question. Not even an attempt WHY WAS JESUS BAPTIZED AND WHY DID JESUS SAY IN LUKE THAT HE IS NOT GOOD THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOOD. WHICH IS GOD IN HEAVEN

Jesus was baptised as a confirmation that He's the Son of God...

Matthew 3:17

Gartol:
brother I give up on your matter. Clear your mind first so that you wont get angry. Cant you read?


The hadiths are sayings and teachings of the prophet. In this context prophet Muhammed (pbuh) had an ablution from a well. So is companions ASSUMED the water was unclean. So he clarified himself telling them the water is clean.

Sorry, I do understand the games of Muslims of "can't you read" or "you don't understand Arabic" and "you are taking it out of context" they are not new to me.