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Khaleell001:
Mary was 18-22 so says the modernist without any shred for evidence.

I just keep wondering how some of you think.

Did you read the Catholic encyclopedia and find out how old girls at that time in Israel where being given out?

You want to use your warped modern thinking to confused yourself thinking you are convincing me?

Well, I won't go any further.
And we don't give a bloody damn about your validation.
You can keep your morals to yourselves we don't need it.
We have ours.

Hahaha... this is how Muslims are normally confused.

I asked you earlier, can a 6 or 9 years old baby who plays with dolls make a 130 km Journey alone?

sinkhole:
Them go soon "pai" the girl! Na their way be dat

So many Muslims are leaving Islam these day...

Watch "The Aposte Prophet" on YouTube and you will be shocked.

He is an ex Muslim, helping other Muslims to leave Islam, unfortunately enough, he is using the Islamic holy book to do that.

There's another Arab Christian called "Christian Prince" he has helped thousands of Muslims leaves the Islamic faith.

He is also on YouTube.

AntiChristian:
You have been avoid me since! Why?

Can you tell us how old were the young virgins your Lord told those people to keep for themselves?

How many were less than 6-9years among them? Were they even married? The Prophet married 'Aaisha with his father's consent.! But your Lord killed all the men and married women but spared virgins!

Akpan107 what should we do to your three Gods now?

Hahaha... are you masquerade that I will fear you!

I am only surprise of a god who changes shape to please those who worship him.

You're only beating about the bush.

AntiChristian:
State the law that forbids what he did? It's simple na!

Paul says: “Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ” (Eph. 6:5)

Did Paul challenge slavery here or he encourages it?

We are talking about your Prophet sleeping with his slave,

While the same chapter of the Bible you quoted says,

Master must respect and not use bad word to their slaves.
Eph 6:9

Is your Prophet respecting his slave girl by having sex with her?

Khaleell001:
Who is this one?

who defines morality here?
with your intellect?

If we go that way, you will see you have more to deal with your religion than in Islām.

How old was Mary when she was bethrothed to Joseph?

What you define as a child is not even standard over generation.

If it were immoral at that time the people of that time would have condemned him.

So, quite this toxic mentality and get hold of yourself.


This is guy is classical case of a compound idiot.

If a man sleeps with women other than their wife it is normal,and when he does that with his wives it becomes a problem.

Are you even well at all?

Oga it's not a fight, but we are simply sharing ideas...

Mary was around 18 to 22 when she gave birth to Jesus.

Mary alone made a 130 km Journey from Nazareth to Judea to visit Elizabeth
Luke 1:39-40

A 6 or 9 years old baby can't make such a distance journey alone.

Mary did all these, while Muhammad (s.a.w) child wife was busy playing with dolls with her play mates
Sahih Muslims
Book 44, Hadith 117.

Yes, if a man sleeps with a woman who is not his wife, is a great sin in the sight of the True and Holy God.

I actually don't have to call you names to make little point as this.

Rashduct4luv:
No be his wives?

Solomon had 700 concubines and 300 wives. How does he meet them in your Bible?

Hypocrites!

Solomon did it, but God never approved it...

Muhammad did it and the Islamic god approved it with Quranic verses supporting him.
Sura 66:1

Muhammad s.a.w had sex with a lady who is not his wife and Allah the Islamic god approved it.

Aisha, one of the prophet wife even had these to say:

"It seems to me that your Lord hastens to SATISFY your DISERE"
Sahih Muslims
Book 17 Hadith No. 64

Aisha sees how women offers themselves to the Prophet of Allah...

Out of jealousy she said that.

Khaleell001:
The point is, you are using your Christian doctrine to judge Islām and that's your first mistake.

Islām and Christian aren't the same.

A Christian can "supposedly" (there's no biblical proof to support this claim) marry only one wife while Islam says one can marry up to four maximum.

So, stop this your ogogoro behavoiur and think straight.

Mariya or Mariam alcQutibiyyah was a concubine of the prophet and concubinage is allowed in Islām.

So,what's your headache dumbo?!

I must not use Christian law to judge Islam, we can aswell use moral laws!

A prophet who had sex with all his wives (in one day) with a single bath
Sunan Abu Daud
Book 1, Hadith 218

Muhammad had about 9 wives...
How could someone have sex with about 8 women without taking bath?

Lets not follow religion blindly!

AntiChristian:
Let's start here.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat your slave as much as you like, just make sure IT doesn't die, and I call the slave it since a slave is a mere possession according to the Bible.

Hahaha, after beating your empty chest, this all you have to come up with. Alright....

Now, what do you learn from the above verses?

Only if you use your brain, you will see the answers in the scriptures quoted.

Exedus 21:20
And if a man strikes his servants or maids and he or she dies under his hand, the master must be punished.
(Probably, he must be put to death for killing a soul)

Exedus 21:21
But if the servants lives on, there's no punishment for the master...

Based on the above verse, beating your maids or servants with the aim of correcting him or her is actually not the problems, how you do it matters, not to cause his death.

Jesus Christ is the New covenant and we are no longer on the old laws...

Muhammad s.a.w was a man who the Muslims claims he came to set things right, but he is the one having sex with a lady who is not his wife.

How can you explain that?

AntiChristian:
You mentioned the Bible? I am coming to kill you soon!

I am here for you... but then, how do you justify a prophet who had sex with a lady who is not his wife?

AntiChristian:
Keep shut! Your religion has the worst treatment for females slaves! HYPOCRITES!!!

Support your claims with evidence!

A prophet sleeping with lady who is not his wife can't be justified.

It's a great sin in the sight of the true God!!!

Bible says, every sexual immorality outside marriage is a Sin!

We all have to obey the command of the Holy God.

Rashduct4luv:
Kindly read my previous verse. Your question has been answered. We can sleep with our wives and slaves!

Hahaha

Luckysbab:
Surah No. 17, Al Isra (Bani Israel), Ayat No. 32


o وَلاَ تَقْرَبُواْ الزِّنَى إِنَّهُ كَانَ فَاحِشَةً وَسَاء سَبِيلاً

Translation :


And do not come near to adultery, it is a shameful deed and an evil, and opening the road to other evils.

You deliberately skipped what Allah said to the Prophet, PBUH.

Hafsat and Aisha, Prophet Muhammad's (s.a.w) wives, were bittered by His actions, and persuaded him not do that again...

Unfortunately, the verse came that Muhammad should not prohibit what Allah has made lawful.

Sura 66:1

Rashduct4luv:
Your statement is ambiguous and anyone reading this will have reservations.....

But the lady in question was his slave.

Qur'an 23:5-6
And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)
Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;

Are you saying your Prophet did wrong by disobeying the above verse?

ambitiouschap:
aye e ti baje

The truth hurt!!!

I can't exchange words with you, let God be our judge.

Luckysbab:
What's the name of the woman and do relate the account of what happened while you're at it

please, kindly read the Hadith for better understanding.

Go to Sunnah.com, then (search, the prophet intercourse with mariya) if you don't have a copy of Hadith.

The lady's name Prophet Muhammad s.a.w had sex with is MARIYA.
Sunan an-Nasa'i book 36, Hadith 21.

Thank you.

Rashduct4luv:
A Muslim is not supposed to shake women he is eligible to marry! This is forbidden!

If shaking hands with women is wrong, what do we say about prophet Muhammad s.a.w who had sex with a lady who is not his wife?,

According to Hadith Sunan an-Nasa'i Book 36, Hadith No.21

It a Sahih Hadith, before you say is da'if.

OfficialAPCNig:
You want to deceive me with Taqqiya abi? Kindly deceive your fellow Yoruba Moslems.

Zayd started compiling the Koran 20 years after your rosul's death.

Some of the verses of the Koran that were written down in the time of Mohammed were destroyed in the war that killed many of Mohammed companions.

There were different versions of Koran after the compilation. Umar ordered the ummah to burn them.

You knew Mary the mother of Jesus is not the same as Miriam the sister of Aaron, so why did zayd portrayed the two as the same.

At least you agreed that one man compiled the Koran, so how are you sure he didn't utter it even by a single letter?

He divided the Koran into verses and re-arranged them. That is why some portions are illogical, disjointed and incoherent.

Dont deceive us.

More wisdom of God bros...

Ayoefa:
[[s]quote author=Akpan107 post=84580347]You're the one actually speaking trash.

Qur'an Sura 19:20
Says Jesus had no father, but you called it "abracadabra immaculate conception"

The minute a Muslim rejects what the Quran says, he becomes an apostate!

The Quran says there's only one god who has a SHIN,

Besides, believing in one god is not a big deal, there are many religion in the world who believe in one god.

Your prophet was asked if he knows any sign which Allah can be recognised, and he said "His SHIN"
And also, Allah will uncover His SHIN, whereupon every Muslims will prostrate in worship
Sahih al-bukhari 7439
Book 97, Hadith 65
Vol.9, book 93 Hadith 532

Then, the same Hadith went on to say that;
The almighty will come to them (Muslims) in a shape other than they saw first time and Allah will say... I am your Lord,

The Muslims will say, you're not our Lord, they will reject their Allah...

Allah had to go and rechanged his shape before the Muslims accepted him.

In Islam, Muslims choose the shape they want their god to appear, but in Christianity, God appear to us in the person of Jesus Christ.

Your Allah will appear in the form of a SHIN. [/s]

PURE UNADULTERATED TRASH.

NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME RESPONDING TO A BRAINWASHED RELIGIOUS FANATIC.
IF YOU LIKE CALL A DOG YOUR GOD JUST BECAUSE ONE BOOK TOLD YOU SO.
THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. PISS OFF AND GET LOST.

Hahaha... Says the worshiper of a god with a SHIN!

Ayoefa:
[s][/s]


TRASH upon TRASH..

so you tried to quote parts (incorrectly ) of the Quran to justify your childish infantile illogical beliefs but you left out the part where the same Quran told you that there's only one God and he's not Jesus or anyone born of a woman...what an oxymoron.

You also forgot to add where it also says that you should worship no one but Allah. You can't belief in one part of a book and leave out the part that doesn't jive with your illogical thoughts.

Common sense should tell you by now that Jesus had a father and a mother.....all that abracadabra immaculate conception is just one big fat lie.
Jesus was born just like you and me, he was a prophet and nothing more. Stop worshiping a human being like you.

You're the one actually speaking trash.

Qur'an Sura 19:20
Says Jesus had no father, but you called it "abracadabra immaculate conception"

The minute a Muslim rejects what the Quran says, he becomes an apostate!

The Quran says there's only one god who has a SHIN,

Besides, believing in one god is not a big deal, there are many religion in the world who believe in one god.

Your prophet was asked if he knows any sign which Allah can be recognised, and he said "His SHIN"
And also, Allah will uncover His SHIN, whereupon every Muslims will prostrate in worship
Sahih al-bukhari 7439
Book 97, Hadith 65
Vol.9, book 93 Hadith 532

Then, the same Hadith went on to say that;
The almighty will come to them (Muslims) in a shape other than they saw first time and Allah will say... I am your Lord,

The Muslims will say, you're not our Lord, they will reject their Allah...

Allah had to go and rechanged his shape before the Muslims accepted him.

In Islam, Muslims choose the shape they want their god to appear, but in Christianity, God appear to us in the person of Jesus Christ.

Your Allah will appear in the form of a SHIN.

Salim27:
Please stop manipulating the word of Allah
Check what is written is different from what you are saying.

Qur'an [68:42]
The Day that the shin shall be laid bare, and they shall be summoned to bow in adoration, but they shall not be able,-


Qur'an (5:64)

The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief.

Qur'an (52:48)
Now await in patience the command of thy Lord: for verily thou art in Our eyes: and celebrate the praises of thy Lord the while thou standest forth,

Qur'an(19:20)
Qalat anna yakoonu lee ghulamun walam yamsasnee basharun walam aku baghiyyan

She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"

Qur'an(48:2)

That Allah may forgive thee thy faults of the past and those to follow; fulfil His favour to thee; and guide thee on the Straight Way;

Unintelligent and unbrieliant response!!

You only repeated all I said.

Your prophet was asked if he knows any sign which Allah can be recognised,

He said, His "SHIN",
And so Allah will uncover His SHIN, whereupon every Muslims will prostrate in worship.

Sahih al-bukhari 7439
Book 97, Hadith 65
Vol. 9 Book 93 Hadith 532.

Then, he went on to say in the same Hadith that: the Almighty will come to them (Muslims) in a shape other than they saw first time and Allah will say, i am your Lord,

But unfortunately, the Muslims rejected Allah because of his new shape.

Other Hadith said, Allah had to go and rechanged his shape before the Muslims accepted him.

Is like Muslims choose the shape they want their god to appear...

But to us, Christians, the Almighty God came in a form of a man, Jesus Christ, that of the Muslims comes in a shape of a SHIN!

Wonderful!!!

Ayoefa:
He was born and died just like any other human being. He bleed and felt pain like any other human being. He was a Prophet like Muhammed and other prophets. He's not God by any sense of imagination. You can call him your god if you wish, that's your problem.

It's quite surprising how the Muslims reason.

Since Jesus bleed, therefore He can't be God,

But your "bloodless" one leg (shin) Allah
Sura 68:42

With his two hands on his right hand side
Sura 5:64, Sahih Muslim 3:1458 No1827

Who has two eyes
52:48

Has no blood.
It's interesting to know your god has no blood.

Jesus is not just a man like you and me.

He was born without a human father
Sura 19:20

He was was not a prophet like Muhammad, because Muhammad was a sinner
Sura 48:2

Jesus never sinned!!!
Was pure 19:19

Jesus created bird and gave life to it and it becomes a living creature and Jesus can tell you the kind of food you store in your house
Sura 3:49.

Only God can create life and God has no helper.

Birniwa:
I normally disregard critics that appear shallowly-thought and ill-constructed but I've just got to reply to this in the interest of protecting my religion, even though, everything you cited above is irrelevant of what I mentioned earlier.

First, Isa is the name of the 1 of the 4 mightiest prophets of Islam which the Christians know as Jesus. While Jibril is the name of chief angel of Islam the Bible recognizes as Archangel Gabriel.

Second, Quran will never refer to Allah as Elohim, Jehovah or Yahweh because Quran is Quran and will never be Bible.

Actually your reply is baseless and doesn't even conform to my critic earlier I'd have said much that will probably enlighten you about the religion Islam.

Very shallow response!

Tell me what's the meaning of the name Isa, Jibreel/Jibril, Yahya and ilya.

I don't need the Islamic stories of who Jesus or Jibril is. Just tell me the meaning of the above mentioned names if you're experience enough,

Let's start from there.

Birniwa:
Illiteracy is indeed a disease, may you be cured anytime soon.

Allah is an Arabic term that means The Almighty God and doesn't equally denote to your local god like Jehovah or Jesus as you termed it earlier.

You're a bloody liar...

Allah is not God.

But if you insist Allah is God,
Kindly tell us the meaning of:
*ISA and *JIBRIEL.

Because we all know that Allah is the unique name of the Islamic god.

While Elohim, Jehovah or Yahweh are the Unique names of the Christian God.

Now, tell us why Allah was never referred to as Elohim, Jehovah or Yahweh throughout the Quran, but many names in the Quran of Hebrews origin bears the names of the Christian God.

I smell copy copy...

Ayoefa:
God is English name for the almighty being same as Eledumare in Yoruba, Allah in Arabic, chineke in Igbo.
Jesus was just a prophet that you guys have turned to your god. He was nothing bu a man just like you and me.

How is Jesus just a man like me and you?

johnmba:
Your explanation contradict what John chapter 1 is saying.

He is a Muhammadan.

Besides, Allah and God are not the same.

*Jesus said, whoever has seen me has seen God.

* I am in the Father and the Father is in me

* I and the Father are One.

* I AM

kayroc:
Technicality. They will use normal procedure to introduce the law and they will pass it again. New Emirate is here to stay.

The Emir of Bichi(one of the new emirates) just pass through my place 3 hours ago in his full convoy.

Everything is just normal.

TundeKorede:
Written by Tunde Korede


Source: http://www.tundekorede.com/seven-things-you-must-never-do-because-of-money/

Thank you! I will be sharing these as a topic in our morning devotion.

At least, i will use it for good seven days topics.

contumely2:
I am a man in late 20's.
I grew up in lack. I suffered so much growing up. In fact, at a point the court had to eject us and threw our properties on the streets for inability to pay rent.

School fees were paid in instalments. Not like the fees were much even. But the funds were never there.


God has blessed me reasonably in the past few years. I made a lot of sacrifices too, denying myself pleasure, delaying gratification etc.

Lately, I noticed that I have been extravagant. Some of the extravagance is masked as charity to people.

I hardly say no requests and I empathise and pity people a lot.

If I lend money to 10 persons, only 3 will pay back.

I also buy some things on impulse; without planning. I regret some of these purchases later.

HOW DO I STAY motivated so as to save more to invest because the future is uncertain. And money is not always there?

I also understand that those we help may abandon us in time of need.

I don't want to learn the hard way.

Kindly share your experiences with grace to grass; or with people you helped in times of plenty.

Or your regrets with finances especially early in life.

Thanks!

Givers never lack, but you must give wisely.

For better financial security, buy land and start develop it, possibly, live in a part and rent out the rest.

50% of your problems are solved when you live in your house.

Rashduct4luv:
How do you explain to a kid that two minus one is (-1)?

I think you will never learn now till you grow up.

your are simply clueless and don't have what to say...

Xisnin:
It is very dry.

Hahaha...

The dry port actually looks Dry!