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Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Endorses Same-Sex Couples Civil Union by Alexandro15:
daddytime:
Ignorant bufoon.

Gay men wey dey sodomize children go carry their filthy hands lay on your cursed head say dem dey pray for you, you sef go dey happy because na akamu full inside your skull.

Meanwhile, you go dey call for Bobrisky head.

Asswipe
Feel free to call me names. I have no issue with that.
I am only interested in knowing who gave you the statistics you said.

Dear all, in so far as some of you may hate the Catholic Church, or what you perceive to be one, I advise that you refrain from vilifying a person because of a wrong news. What Pope Francis did mean was that LGBT people have a right to a family and civil rights. Not family as marriage, but have a right to belong to a family. He has been misquoted out of context by the media and those hoping for SS marriage legalization.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Endorses Same-Sex Couples Civil Union by Alexandro15: 10:19pm On Oct 21, 2020
daddytime:
A good number and percentage of them priests are of course paedofiles and homosexuals.

Watch Nigerian Catholics and hypocrites come for my head.
And who gave you the statistics?

And nobody wants your sour head
Nairaland GeneralRe: Share Your Experience With Weird People You Have Encountered by Alexandro15: 12:15pm On Apr 18, 2020
The people that scratch their armpit and smell their hands cheesy
HealthRe: Coronavirus: It Appears This Chloroquine Is Really Working (tweets) by Alexandro15: 8:52pm On Mar 29, 2020
flyingdutchman:
If your mother was drawing her last breathe, WOULD YOU WAIT FOR IT TO BE UNIVERSALLY APPROVED? Don't be stupid common!!!
Don't quote my comment out of context. At least do yourself the favour of reading and understanding before you make a fool of yourself.

Ode!
HealthRe: Coronavirus: It Appears This Chloroquine Is Really Working (tweets) by Alexandro15: 6:20am On Mar 29, 2020
TheGoodJoe:
I just need to take time to appreciate Prophet T. B. Joshua. Another prediction proven correct. I wonder how he does it.

During a live telecast on the popular Christian Tv Channel known as Emmanuel TV owned by Nigerian Prophet, TB Joshua, the man of God declared that the fearful virus plaguing the world will end on 27th March 2020.

He advised his viewers to remain prayerful as they wait for the deadly plaque to disappear

Recall that in the early month February, news about a deadly incurable disease known as Coronavirus went viral across the globe. So far about thirty countries have reportedly been affected by the deadly disease.

https://www.independent.ng/coronavirus-will-disappear-by-27th-march-2020-says-tb-joshua/
Una don start. It has not even been universally approved.
HealthRe: Coronavirus: It Appears This Chloroquine Is Really Working (tweets) by Alexandro15: 6:18am On Mar 29, 2020
I really hope this is true
HealthRe: COVID-19: FG Deploys Nigerian Researchers To Search For Cure by Alexandro15: 2:16pm On Mar 26, 2020
It is so bad that we don't even value our own doctors, nurses and medical researchers.

We have good doctors and medical personnels, but we don't celebrate them.

For example, a viriologist at Ibadan made a groundbreaking discovery on Hepatitis, and she was invited to different parts of the world to give conferences.
Again, a neurosurgeon at Abuja shared that Nigerians do not always trust him when he wants to perform a surgery. And yet, sometimes hospitals abroad invites him to perform operations. When he gets there, thw patients are the Nigerians that rejected him.

Please, we should learn to value our own. Nigeria has good and intelligent doctors, even with the lack of facilities and equipments.
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Bishop And Priests In UK In Isi-Agu Igbo Attire During Mass by Alexandro15: 7:50am On Feb 25, 2020
Yujin:
Masturbation and the use of toys. However, the addiction level of these are worse than the normal sex. The fact of life is that no one is free of sexual urges. In one way or the other, we relieve the urge.
Please type what you are sure of. The oath of celibacy and the vow of chastity implies that one should abstain from all sexual practices, including the abominable things you mentioned.

I have known many faithful Catholic priests and religious. How do I know?
CrimeRe: I Just Saved Two Lesbians From Being Lynched. by Alexandro15: 2:08pm On Jan 27, 2020
Op, God bless you for saving the lives of those girls from animals.

Yes animals!

Those people who wanted to kill those girls because of their sin are worst. They are the threats. They are the ones who deserve to be sentenced!
EducationRe: Should I Withdraw From The University And Sit For JAMB Again? by Alexandro15: 5:16pm On Jan 22, 2020
What is the real reason you wish to change. Is it because of your poor performance or you have a passion elsewhere? Can't you out in more effort in your current course? It's best you understand the problem first to avoid further mistakes.

But I'd advise that you follow your heart, after much discernment of course. 22 years is still quite Young. It's better to stop and rectify a mistake, than to continue in error.
Christianity EtcRe: Here’s Why Senior Catholic Figures Are Cautioning Father Mbaka (By Naptu2) by Alexandro15: 2:05pm On Jan 19, 2020
A very sensible post this is.
Christianity EtcRe: 2020 - 2029 The Last Decade Of The Church ( The Rapture Will Happen Very Soon!!) by Alexandro15: 10:19am On Jan 19, 2020
This is the result you get when you try to take a literal interpretation of an apocalyptic text in the scripture.

From 2000 to 2012. Then 2020, and now 2029.
Jesus is pretty clear about this. No one knows when the last day will come. He will come like a thief in the night. It might be death or the last day.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, China, India Among 10 Most Improved Economies – World Bank by Alexandro15: 5:46am On Jan 16, 2020
Audio improvement. angry
PoliticsRe: Charly Boy Reacts As Supreme Court Sacks Ihedioha, Says "Imo State Is Gone" by Alexandro15: 8:35am On Jan 15, 2020
All I know is that Fr. Mbaka is a true man of God.
Foreign AffairsRe: Iran Offers $80million Bounty For Donald Trump Head After Death Of General by Alexandro15:
Iran had better respect itself and stand down with all the threats. Imagine declaring a price for the head of a sitting president, a president as powerful as Trump.
They are not in any position to make threats. In addition to their military and nuclear might, two powerful countries have already declared for the US.
Iran should not take the bait that has been set for them.
PoliticsRe: Iran Offers $80 Million Dollar Bounty Reward For Donald Trump's "Head" by Alexandro15: 3:35am On Jan 06, 2020
Iran had better respect itself and stand down with all the threats. Imagine declaring a price for the hear of a sitting president, a president as powerful as Trump.
They are not in any position to make threats. In addition to their military and nuclear might, two powerful countries have already declared for the US.
Iran should not take the bait that has been set for them.
Christianity EtcRe: Another Catholic Priest And Vice Chancellor Blasts MFM Pastor Christmas Post. by Alexandro15(op): 5:21am On Jan 03, 2020
e316:
It's okay for people to share their belief regarding different doctrines and practices. However, I think it will be healthy to avoid personal attacks!






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I agree with you. Sometimes it makes reading the whole stuff discomforting.

Lalasticlala
Christianity EtcAnother Catholic Priest And Vice Chancellor Blasts MFM Pastor Christmas Post. by Alexandro15(op): 8:39pm On Jan 02, 2020
*When a Pastor misrepresents Christmas*

Rev. Fr. Anthony Akinwale, OP

Sola scriptura—the Bible alone. That was one of the principles of the Reformation according to Martin Luther. Presupposed in that principle is that all there is to be taught and known about Christianity, all there is to be believed, and all that is to be practiced by Christians are contained in the Bible. In other words, the Bible is self-sufficient.

There is no doubt that the Bible teaches us a lot about Christianity. But the Bible does not teach us everything about Christianity. The Bible contains the word of God. But the word of God is not contained by the Bible because, as we learn from the Prologue of John’s Gospel, the word is God himself. God cannot be contained by, that is, limited to a book. Not even the Bible. For this reason, no one can understand Christianity by reading the Bible alone. Whoever wishes to understand Christianity would need to study history of early Christianity. Negligence or ignorance of history is a problem created by the Reformation principle of sola Scriptura. This ignorance combines with Biblical positivism and finds an expression in the gratuitous declaration by Pastor Olukoya of the Mountain of Fire and Miracles that the celebration of Christmas is a pagan practice.

History teaches us that the celebration of Christmas began during the fourth century. The earliest available documented reference to Christmas was by the Chronographer of 354 who noted December 25 as “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun” (Natalis Invicti). At the beginning of his list of martyrs’ anniversaries, a list drawn up in 336, he noted: “December 25: Christ was born in Bethlehem”.

If the list was compiled in 336, the first celebration of Christmas at Rome could be dated the beginning of the 330s. Until then, early Christians observed one feast, and that was the Day of Christ the Lord, the day we call Sunday today. It was a weekly (Sunday) and annual (Easter) celebration of the Passover of the Lord, of his death and resurrection. The celebration on December 25 of his coming in the flesh was initiated to respond to the influence of paganism on early Christians in Rome.

In order to draw Christians away from the pagan feast of the Sun celebrated on December 25, the Church in Rome chose the same December 25, the pagan feast of the Sun, as the day to celebrate the coming of the Son of God. It was to shift attention from paying homage to pagan divinities to paying homage to the Son of God. Pastor Olukoya therefore misrepresents history by confusing the celebration of the birth of the Son of God with the pagan celebration of the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. It is pathetic that a Christian pastor would so misrepresent the history of Christianity. For if a pastor misrepresents Christianity who then will tell its story?

In order to emphasise the contrast between the Christian celebration of the birth of the Son of God and the pagan celebration of the birthday of the Sun, Augustine, Bishop of Hippo, said in a Christmas sermon he delivered in 412: “This is the birthday of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. It is the anniversary of the day on which Truth sprang out of the earth, and the Day of Day was born to bring light to our day. It is a day we ought to celebrate; let us rejoice and take delight in it” (Sermon 184).
In another Christmas sermon, delivered between 412 and 416, the Bishop of Hippo spoke in the same vein: “When we speak of Christmas, we mean the day on which the Wisdom of God manifested Itself as a speechless babe and the Word of God was heard in the voice of humankind when it cannot yet utter words….
“With due solemnity, therefore, do we celebrate the anniversary of the day on which were fulfilled the words of the prophecy: ‘Truth is sprung out of the earth, and justice has looked down from heaven.’ The Truth which abides in the bosom of the Father, is sprung out of the earth to dwell also in the bosom of a mother. The Truth which contains the world, is sprung out of the earth to be borne in the hands of a woman. The Truth which is the food of incorruption for the angels, is sprung out of the earth to receive milk from the breasts of a woman. The Truth which the heavens cannot contain, is sprung out of the earth to be placed in a manger!

“Let us joyfully celebrate the coming of our salvation and redemption. Let us celebrate the hallowed day in which the great Eternal Day came from the great Eternal Day into this, our so short and temporal day.”

The reader would have noticed Augustine’s frequent reference to Jesus as the Day. I have taken the trouble to quote these words because they show that, for the Bishop of Hippo, and for his contemporaries, what is celebrated on December 25 is the birth of the Eternal Day, not the birth of a Sun that rises and sets. The Eternal Day, the Day of Day, is the Son of God. Not the Sun.
Pastor Olukoya is right to say the word Christmas does not feature in the Bible. However, there are times when the truth is spoken in a way that misleads, and Pastor Olukoya’s declaration is one of such instances. For while it is true that the word “Christmas” is not found in the Bible, it is totally untrue to say the celebration is pagan. What the Pastor has failed to do is to differentiate between what is signified and the name that is used to signify it.

Christmas signifies the incarnation, the coming of the Word of God in the flesh. The incarnation is attested to at the very beginning of the Gospel according to John. This doctrine is central to Christianity. It is about the presence of God among us. It was proclaimed at the Council of Nicaea in 325 when the Council declared that the Son of God is of the same nature as the Father and is God. Christmas is the feast of the incarnation, of the manifestation of God among us in the flesh. Contrary to the charge of paganism levelled by the Pastor, Christmas originated as replacement of a pagan feast.

This controversy points to the sorry state of Christianity in Nigeria.

Here is a country where you can become a pastor without undergoing any theological formation. A rigourous theological formation would involve taking a course, a Level 100 course for that matter, on the history and doctrine of early Christianity. An organized study of patristic texts is absent from virtually all departments of religious studies in our universities. Patrology as a course is not listed in the Benchmark Minimum Academic Standard for teaching Christian Religious Studies in Nigerian universities.

Many preachers today do not even know that patristic texts exist. Yet, not to study them is to shut oneself out of the two millennia of Christian tradition.

Preachers with no knowledge of Biblical languages, and no knowledge of the historical contexts of Biblical texts, casually and habitually misrepresent the word of God before a gullible and uncritical audience, an audience traumatized by Nigeria’s numerous social, political and economic challenges, an audience that would enter into any kind of place called Church. The greatest danger facing Christianity is that the Gospel is seriously undermined by many a Christian preacher. Here in Nigeria, we are yet to fully appreciate the damage that such preachers have inflicted and continue to inflict on the Nigerian psyche.

A pastor is a doctor of souls. No one would want to allow an untrained person masquerading as physician to treat his body. But, sadly, what we witness in contemporary Nigerian religiosity is a case of submitting our souls to untrained preachers, a high rate of pastoral malpractice.

Whereas there is abundant evidence to show that December 25 was adopted and adapted to become a Christian feast, there is no evidence to show that, it was a pagan feast for those early Christians who first celebrated the birth of Christ on December 25. Pastor Olukoya’s denunciation of Christmas amounts to saying it is a pagan feast because it looks like a pagan feast. But it is not in the nature of wise judgments to be based on appearance. Wise judgements are based on evidence.

© Father Anthony Akinwale, OP
Vice-Chancellor
Dominican University, Ibadan.

Lalasticlala , your attention please.
CelebritiesRe: Andrew Dunbar Dies On Christmas Eve by Alexandro15: 3:34pm On Dec 29, 2019
RIP Reek embarassed
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 12:43pm On Dec 25, 2019
blueAgent:
Are you that Naive to believe that crap?

In Nigeria corruption is consider illegal by the consistution.
but we all know that in reality corruption is rampant and a menace to our society.
Likewise your so called Creed, wheather it is written or not the fact remains that you Catholics have been observed just like the pictures I attached to this OP, to worship,bow,pray, praise and sing to Mary which is unbiblical.

If there is any positive to be derived from this Creed, is that it proves that Mary veneration is an anomaly which was never intended by your church hence the reason for it been omitted in your church Creed so it should be corrected.

That I have assisted you guys by pointing it out.
Nonsense as usual. But I didn't expect more from one who is a pagan.

Even before the Nicene- Creed was formed, the church Father's of old had already honored, venerated and praised Mary for her role in Salvation's history. Church Father's such as Origen, St. Justin Matyr, St. Ireaneus, Tertullian, St. Gregory the wonder worker.

Church Fathers even continued the praise, honour and veneration of Mary after the Nicene-Creed. E.g St. Augustine, St. Jerome, St. John Crystostom, St. Cyril of Alexandria.


grin grin grin

Bro, what is your point? You are just fooling yourself for all to see.
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:19pm On Dec 24, 2019
blueAgent:
I hold no alliagance to any Church, what matters most to is that the truth about God's word prevails over human traditions and teachings.
This is a waste of time afterall. He is not even a Christian. grin
I have been arguing with a pagan ever since.
Don't quote me again, please. Go and baptise. Go and join a Christian assembly.
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:16pm On Dec 24, 2019
blueAgent:
How does this disprove the fact that you Catholics bow, pray, worship and praise Mary?
Can this guy read at all? Did you see anything about worship of Mary there? And yet, this is a summary of the Catholic faith.
How does it prove the fact that we worship Mary?

You know what, you are just like a zombie. Countless times we have given you reasons and told you we don't worship her, but you keep repeating the same questions over and over again. I doubt you can even comprehend anything. Little wonder you specialise in copying and pasting from the internet, since you don't even know how to argue or even sustain one.

Zombie, that is what you are. No apologies.
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 8:01am On Dec 24, 2019
blueAgent:
Answer my simple question.
Is there anything you can mention that you Catholics do
exclusively for God without doing the same to Mary?
Alexandro15:
Op have you heard of the Nicene- Creed? It starts with " I believe in One God, the Father Almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible, and in Jesus Christ..."

Infact, I will post the whole thing here. This Creed is a summary of the Catholic faith and doctrines. If you don't find worship of Mary here, shame on you!


We believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God,
Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made;
of the same essence as the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven;
he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary,
and was made human.
He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered and was buried.
The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again with glory
to judge the living and the dead.
His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life.
He proceeds from the Father and the Son,
and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified.
He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church.
We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen
Look at this. It is quite surprising how you do selective reading. If you had read this you wouldn't have asked this question.

Again I ask, what I the name of your "church"? You keep dodging the question.
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:52pm On Dec 23, 2019
Op, your problem is that you don't know what you are arguing for. You are confused, lost and sound almost desperate. You glory in any ill news of the Catholic Church. You dig out evil news which abound in the internet from people like you.

In the beginning, I asked you to use your time productively in the pursuit of your own spiritual life. I didn't ask you to join the Catholics ( which is something your protestant kind do often. Trying to "convert" Christians), I only asked you to deepen your relationship with God.

In your wickedness and stubbornness of heart, you refused to listen. You have continued making weak and useless points, quoting Bible passages you neither understand to support your wicked aim. You are not a Bible exegete and so you sore your ignorance.

I have been mild with you, partly because I hate online arguments, and I don't want to waste my time with someone who doesn't know what truth is, nor even want it. I only wished we could have a talk physically.
Op, look interiorly first. God searches the heart and probes the loins to give each man what his conduct deserves!

Take care!
PS. I am still interested in knowing your "church".
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:43pm On Dec 23, 2019
Op have you heard of the Nicene- Creed? It starts with " I believe in One God, the Father Almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible, and in Jesus Christ..."

Infact, I will post the whole thing here. This Creed is a summary of the Catholic faith and doctrines. If you don't find worship of Mary here, shame on you!


We believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God,
Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made;
of the same essence as the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven;
he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary,
and was made human.
He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered and was buried.
The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again with glory
to judge the living and the dead.
His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life.
He proceeds from the Father and the Son,
and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified.
He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church.
We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:25pm On Dec 21, 2019
Oh, how I missed this thread.
I just wanted to reassure the OP that I am still Honouring Mary grin cheesy
Make e pain am cheesy

PS. Op, you never replied my answer to you
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 2:23pm On Dec 19, 2019
blueAgent:
Is Catholics Praying To Dead Saints Biblical? by blueAgent
( m): 3:59pm On Jul 01, 2017
Catholics to praying to dead saints is it biblical.
One of the customs of Catholics is to pray to dead Saints to
intercede on their behalf in Heaven.This doctrine is based on
the belief that dead Saints are alive and already in Heaven this
erroneous belief is one of the biggest decits of Satan.We will
take a look at this issue with the Bible as our guide.
First what is the State of the dead? are they living or do they
ascend into Heaven immediately after death.
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of
man, in whom there is no help. 146:4 His breath goeth forth,
he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
Ecclesiastes9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the
dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a
reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 9:6 Also their
love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither
have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is
done under the sun.
This Bible verses clearly show that the dead including the
Saints are not in a state of consciousness but rather their
thoughts,love,passions are all perished.
Death is likened to sleep,a man who is at sleep is not in
control of his thoughts,actions or environment, same with
death. Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the
heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out
of their sleep. 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the
days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto
them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake
him out of sleep. 11:12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he
sleep, he shall do well. 11:13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his
death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in
sleep.
So if the Saints are not in Heaven where can they be? The
Saints are not in Heaven as we can see from those Bible
verses they are all asleep in their graves or earth(dust).we will
look at more bible verses to confirm this.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and
rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God
bring with him. 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of
the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming
of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the
earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to
shame and everlasting contempt.
This Bible verses confirm that the dead sleep in the dust not in
Heaven.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the
which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Even David the man after God's heart,a man who Jesus Christ
was named after 'Thou son of David' did not ascend into
Heaven after his death.
I don't think there is anyone more qualified to be called a
Saint than David.but still David did not ascend to Heaven at
his death he is still lying in his grave waiting for the
resurrection. Acts2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak
unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and
buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he
saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my
right hand,
Even David knew he was not to go to Heaven immedately
after his death so he wrote in Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will
behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I
AWAKE, with thy likeness.
Considering the State of the dead,saints including
Mary,Paul,Joseph,e.t.c while do Catholics still pray to them. It
is apparent that they are praying to Idols and Demons in the
name of praying to
Saints.Mary,Paul,Peter,James,John,Stephen e.t.c are all
sleeping in their graves they neither eat,work, Think, or hear
nor intercede in prayers on behalf of others.
This evil doctrine has been sold to the public especially
Catholics who believe that dead people go straight to Hell or
Heaven immediately after death.
People go to Heaven or Hell on the Judgement day or day of
resurrection not before then. Daniel12:2,John5:28-29 &
1cor15:12-14,1cor16-19.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the
which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 5:29 And
shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the
resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the
resurrection of damnation.
This bible verses confirm that the dead and Saints are not in
Heaven but are waiting for the resurrection for if they were
already in Heaven the bible will not be talking about a
resurrection of the Saints or the dead.what will they be
resurrecting from since they are already in Heaven?
To Catholics pls deciet from praying to dead Saints they
cannot hear you or intercede on your behalf.Only one name
has been given to us by which man can be saved and that is
the name of Jesus Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any
other: for there is none other name under heaven given among
men, whereby we must be saved.
Only Jesus not any dead saint or Mary or Paul or Pope.
We are expected to pray to God only through the name of
Jesus not through any dead Saints John14:13 no other person
can.mediate between man and God ,not Mary,Paul or angels
but only Jesus Christ is our mediator 1Timothy 2:5 For there
is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man
Christ Jesus;
Christ and the Holy Spirit which is the spirit of Christ can
intercede on our behalf Romans 8:34,
Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities:
for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the
Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which
cannot be uttered. 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts
knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh
intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
All you wrote is nonsense. I will refute everything with a single verse for I don't have your time again.

Luke 23: 43 " In truth I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:38am On Dec 17, 2019
Op, tell me your church and the name of your pastor. Let me continue from there. I want to make sure I am arguing with a Christian.
Most of you are not even baptised, can you imagine?
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:33am On Dec 17, 2019
blueAgent:
CO-MEDIATOR - Mary is the Co-Mediator to whom we can
entrust all our cares and petitions. (Catechism 968-970, 2677)
There is only one mediator and that is Jesus. 1 Timothy
2:5-6 says, “For there is one God, and one mediator
between God and men, the man Christ Jesus: Who gave
himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”
Hebrews 7:25 says,Wherefore he [Jesus] is able to save
them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing
he ever liveth to make intercession for them.” Ephesians
3:12 says, “In whom [Jesus} we have boldness and
access with confidence by the faith of him.”
If Jesus is constantly interceding for us and He is able to save
us “to the uttermost,” (utterly, completely) then He doesn’t
need Mary’s help. If we can approach God with “boldness”
and “confidence” because of our faith in Jesus, then we don't
need Mary’s help either.
The book of James says this:

“The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful.” – James 5:16

Now, who is more righteous than those perfected in heaven? Thus, we ask the Saints to pray for us, because the Bible tells us they have powerful prayers. The next question is then – “can they hear us?” The answer is yes. Jesus says:

“And concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God, `I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” -Matthew 22:31-32

Since we are all made members of Christ’s mystical body, we are all connected to one another and even death cannot separate us from Christ. Christ could have told us that praying for one another didn’t matter, but he did the opposite. He told us (as did Paul and many others in Scripture) to pray for one another, because God acts through his Church on earth, and in heaven, to give us grace through the prayers of others.

What I believe is the most amazing evidence from the Bible of the Saints in heaven hearing our prayers is from the book of Revelation.

“When he took it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each of the elders held a harp and gold bowls filled with incense, which are the prayers of the holy ones.” -Revelations 5:8

–We see that the elders and four living creatures (who represent the Saints and Angels in heaven) are offering the prayers of those on earth before Jesus. I don’t think it could get much clearer. In Revelation 8 there is another incident of heavenly intercession.

“Another angel came and stood at the altar, holding a gold censer. He was given a great quantity of incense to offer, along with the prayers of all the holy ones, on the gold altar that was before the throne. The smoke of the incense along with the prayers of the holy ones went up before God from the hand of the angel. Then the angel took the censer, filled it with burning coals from the altar, and hurled it down to the earth. There were peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning, and an earthquake.” -Revelations 8:3-5
Based on the overwhelming evidence from Scripture, the constant Tradition of the Church as well as the fact that it is theologically acceptable, we can be assured that the Saints in heaven can hear our prayers and are praying for us.

This is why we pray to Saints.

Remember that prayer to Saints is not the same idea as prayer to God. There is no worship or adoration of the Saints. Rather, just like we would ask someone on earth to pray for us, we do the same with our heavenly friends.

In John 2, at the Wedding in Cana, we see Mary ask Jesus to help after the hosts run out of wine. He performs His first miracle at her behest, even though he tells her it “is not my time.” This is remarkable, because Jesus still does what his mother asks, even though it wasn’t time to reveal his divine powers. This shows us the powerful intercession she has with Jesus.

To ask her to pray for us is therefore biblical, logical, and good.

Mary pray for us!
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 10:33pm On Dec 16, 2019
blueAgent:
CO-MEDIATOR - Mary is the Co-Mediator to whom we can
entrust all our cares and petitions. (Catechism 968-970, 2677)
There is only one mediator and that is Jesus. 1 Timothy
2:5-6 says, “For there is one God, and one mediator
between God and men, the man Christ Jesus: Who gave
himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”
Hebrews 7:25 says,Wherefore he [Jesus] is able to save
them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing
he ever liveth to make intercession for them.” Ephesians
3:12 says, “In whom [Jesus} we have boldness and
access with confidence by the faith of him.”
If Jesus is constantly interceding for us and He is able to save
us “to the uttermost,” (utterly, completely) then He doesn’t
need Mary’s help. If we can approach God with “boldness”
and “confidence” because of our faith in Jesus, then we don't
need Mary’s help either.
I need her help. Deal with it!
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:55am On Dec 15, 2019
blueAgent:
The Biblical Mary was a horrible sinner (James 2:10), who
needed a Savior (Luke 1:47), and told others to do what
Jesus commanded (John 2:5). The Biblical Mary was not
a Perpetual Virgin (Matthew 13:55-56), was not
Immaculately Conceived (Romans 3:23), wasn't Bodily
Assumed into Heaven (Hebrews 9:27), and she doesn't
intercede on our behalf (1st Timothy 2:5... "For there is
one God, and one mediator between God and men, the
man Christ Jesus"wink. The Blessed Virgin Mary of the
Catholic religion is straight from
RESPONSE TO THIS:

In the first place; the first objection is Protestants’ chief reason for objecting to the Immaculate Conception and Mary’s consequent sinlessness; according to them “all (including Mary )have sinned” (Rom. 3:23). Besides, they say, Mary said her “spirit rejoices in God my Savior” (Luke 1:47), for only a sinner needs a Savior.

Taking the second citation first, it is established that Mary, too, required a Savior. Like all other descendants of Adam, she was subject to the necessity of contracting original sin. Although by a special intervention of God, at the instant she was conceived, she was preserved from the stain of original sin and its consequences. Thus, She was redeemed by the grace of Christ, but in a special way— the way of anticipation.

Analogically this can be illustrated in this way; Suppose a woman falls into a deep dirty water with lots of mud, and someone reaches down to pull her out. The woman has been “saved” from the pit. Now imagine a another woman walking along, and she too is about to topple into the pit, but at the very moment that she is to fall in, someone holds her back and prevents her. She too has been saved from the pit, but in an even better way: She was not simply taken out of the pit, she was prevented from getting stained by the dirty water and the mud in the first place. This is the illustration Catholic Christians have used for a thousand years to explain how Mary was saved by Christ. Through her reception of Christ’s grace at her conception, she had his grace applied to her before she was able to become contaminated in original sin and its stain.

In the Catechism of the Catholic Church it is stated that Mary was “redeemed in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son” (CCC 492). She has more reason to call God her Savior than we do, because he saved her in an even more glorious manner!

In responding to Romans 3:23, “all have sinned”? One should ask the question have all people committed actual sinshuh? Of course not. A Child below the age of reason for instance cannot sin actually because in sinning the ability to reason and the intention to sin is needed.

Scripture scholars have asserted that Paul’s comment seems to have one of two meanings. Thus, It might be that it refers not to absolutely everyone, but just to the mass of mankind (which means young children and other special cases, like Jesus and Mary, would be excluded without having to be singled out). If not that, then it would mean that everyone, without exception, is subject to original sin, which is true for a young child, for the unborn, even for Mary—but she, though due to be subject to it, was preserved by God from it and its stain.

The second objection was also raised that if Mary were without sin, she would be equal to God. In this case it is observed that in the beginning, God created Adam, Eve, and the angels without sin, but none were equal to God. Most of the angels never sinned, and all souls in heaven are without sin. Resting on this argument means tieing humanity to iniquity; but Sinning does not make one human.

Officially defined by Pope Pius IX in 1854 the Doctrine and teaching about the immaculate conception like other doctrines was formally defined when a controversy to be cleared up or when the magisterium (the Church in its office as teacher; see Matt. 28:18–20; 1 Tim. 3:15, 4:11) thought the faithful could be helped by particular emphasis being drawn to the already-existing belief.

The definition of the Immaculate Conception was prompted by Pope Pius IX devotion to Mary and his hope of inspiring others in their devotion to Mother of God
Christianity EtcRe: Evidence That Catholics Worship Mary. by Alexandro15: 5:49am On Dec 15, 2019
blueAgent:
You are really delluded, how is the Pope praying and asking Mary to save him an honour?
I can understand if you spent 6 weeks in Bible School; but I can't understand that you don't even know the difference between prayer and worship!

OP, you really need help. Prayer is not worship. Prayer is a petition or request made to someone.
Thus, I might say, "Give me my keys, I pray you". I am not worshiping you by those, am I?

Be reasonable at times.

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