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fstranger3:
WHy?


I am Ebo too!

Remember, Alhaji Chukwuemeka, thats my name

ok

^^^^^

response not responce

ShangoThor:
Very interesting food for thought, I'm absolutely fascinated with this subject and as you know there are competing theories. If I find any info to shed further light on this I will share it 

if you are yoruba, you really do not know the people you are dealing with

SMH

Decryptor:
I can clearly recall an incident that took place sometime in 2005 or so, during the Kaduna riots which sparked up reprisal attacks on hausas/fulanis in Aba, Onitsha and Awka. I was in Awka then when some youths who were angered by the rate of killings of igbos in the north ambushed some fulani herdsmen in an isolated area and slaugtered their cattle while the fulani b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s ran for their 4ucking lives. MENNNNN! come see as meat boku for market and was sold at a very cheap rate.

you are one sick person

sick i tell ya

i dey laff ooooo

^^^^^

namfav you no go kill me oooo

ShangoThor:
Alj Harem, seriously, you seem to be a decent guy, but you represent the problem of decadence that has affected Nigeria as it is now.

You come into threads like this and try to promote disunity.

I have never seen you challenging things that are wrong in Northern Nigeria, I mean what do you really represent. Do you believe in educating the masses of your people, would you challenge Boko Harem activists or Islamic extremists when it comes to protecting innocent southerners, or do you just tow the line and accept them as collateral damage? Are you pro zoning or do you believe the best man should get the job? Do you believe that Northerners were born to rule Nigeria? Do you believe that Southern Muslims are inferior to Northern ones especially when considering that its an alien culture/religion to Africa? Would you challenge Northern leaders that refuse to educate the masses and only perpetuate the same old system that has reduced your under privileged people to poverty? Do you think that the the life of a cow is more important than the life of a human?  Do you believe that one can justify butchering babies in the middle of the night because you have a grievance? Does your religion come before your Nation State or Country?

We are diametrically opposed, the difference is I know that the views and ethnic insults on this board are not representative of what Human Evolution. You might fool my eastern neighbours but you do not fool me. Divide and conquer is your game and the only reason why it remains is because  Southerners do not have the intelligence to act collaboratively in favour of what is in their common interest.

Most of our Northern Muslims would not even get into Dubai because they are so bloody backward! Damn your divide and conquer.
Northerners have no vision, it's time to step aside. The unifying thread amongst Southerners is "SELF IMPROVEMENT".

look my brother, i have to be honest with you

me as a northerner do not like boko harem

i do not like killing of anybody be it southerners or northerners

there is nothng like born-to-rule

i love my southerner brother, both yorubas and igbos

but seperation will not solve the problem we have now in nigeria

i clearly do not like our so-call northern leader,.,., atiku, ciroma and co because they do not care about us but about thier pockets

i believe southerners and northerners can unite to chase this leaders away since it is not particular to the north but occurs in the south as well

i believe in western education, i mean that is why i schooled in lagos

[quote author=Me_Aboki link=topic=600864.msg7723873#msg7723873 date=1297614692]Oh no!!! they shouldn't start exploring for anything, at least not yet.

In fact they should wait until we finish all the oil in the south (under One Nigeria) after which we can then agree to partition, so that the new state of Arewa Republic can keep and enjoy its own oil all by itself.

Now, wouldn't that be a lovely way to beat some greedy fools at their own game? Nice wouldn't it [/quote]you could not have said it better

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=600864.msg7723958#msg7723958 date=1297616348]I hope they find oil in that region. That would be a dream come true for many Nigerians, both from the North and South. Let us not forget this is found in Kanuriland and they may tell the Hausa that it is their oil. [/quote] do you think we are like southerners alway complaining with oil is in there land

ShangoThor:
No I do not understand, this is your solution? This is what you say to the UN as your mandate?

and do you still want to form a utopia nation with likes of ezeuche that believe aro people are supirior to any other group even thereyoruba counterpart that are clearly better than igbos both in education and other aspect but do not boast like this man

fstranger you no serious ooo

excanny:
lol. What's wrong in trying to claim a slim beauty like Mukina2. Much better than claiming you, though.
No. I'm not Ibo. I'm Heebo.

good one brother, good one

mukina2, excanny is right. Can you answer the question about people with Kanu, Okoro, Obi etc with middle or surnames in Salone

it is actually very educative to know this things and learn about other countries since you have lived there

We are waiting for your reply

the only language southerners understand is violence and it will be given to them well

whether middle-belt, igbo, ijaws, yorubas, etc just leave the fulani cattles alone, that's all

gohome:
English is not indigenous to america, its the official language, so also Nigeria

well go and be the governor then

wish you the best of luck

jason123:
@ Gohome

In fact, i was just thinking about what yous said. So because the yorubas are "weak", that is why you want to rule them Na wa for you people ooo! May we dey watch now

jason123, you are as dumb as they get

was it not you that wanted unity now you are seeing there truth colour you they vex

just imagine an igbo governor in lagos and hausa as his vice,.,.,. then the commissions are then ijaw, kanuri, with a few yorubas

then think of the way they think you yorubas are weak,.,

enough said

gohome:
OH Dangote doesn't understand English?

that is america where english is the indigenous language

lagos indigenous language is yoruba

gohome:
abacha is not a Nigerian

so where was he from,,,., chad   

gohome:
Tell that to TINUBU and ABACHA

tinubu is a yoruba and also the second generation in lagos, so he understands the ways of the people

abacha never ruled lagos remember

pls we are not fighting

gohome:
Internal Colonization Happened before our very eyes,  read the scripts on Jos Crises,


Now lets go back to your Question,  but this time you will answer it

YORUBAs Originally from Lagos 5 million

Foreigners,  so called,    30 Million

Who is now the people?

Grow up,  Leave TRIBALISM for our FATHERS

There are foreigners,  I mean from a foreign country in Newyork, LA, London,  they are not complaining,  we call ourselves a country yet you say OPC will mobilise,  shame

and those foreign do not understand english or the american culture, abi ?

[quote author=Kadabra_05 link=topic=601921.msg7719923#msg7719923 date=1297539244]please joh. why should the leader that rules have to be yorubanised? u tell me?
thank u- the person that said this has made this point: where the british yorubas.
oh come of it, an igbo man can rule too,[/quote]unless you conquer them like the igbos try doing then the person has to be able to speak yoruba and have awolism in his thick skull.

the british conquered

Ikengawo:
For a people once infinite in intellectual endowment, i've come to see the shadow of Biafra has left us stagnate.
Our people, once the origin of nearly all of Africa's new ideas, cannot even address the problems that face us without blanking 'Biafra' as a solution.

We were the ones that in all reality liberated Nigeria from the British and asked the 3 tribes to stay united, but we act as if we're less Nigerian, or Nigeria is less ours then anyone else's then quickly wonder why we're politically irrelevant.

We pioneered this continent time and time again, and now we can't see and issue that everyone else is solving for themselves with real solutions without a lost multitude scream biafra and blaming all our problems, which we created ourselves, on 'marginalization' and speaking of succession.
We seem to have totally lost focus due to a lack of real ideas.


when someone speaks of corruption we speak of seperation as opposed to a solution
when someone speaks of kidnapping we speak of seperation

any problem that afflicts us, the failed idea of seperation from a nation we built is instantly blurted as a solution and real discourse and problem solving is not achieved. When did the most capable people on planet earth become perpetual victims?

thank you, may your wisdom keep growning among the other ideeiots

seanet02:
The very first ibo that speaks the truth. Yes you really lack real ideas.

why do you have to say that mumu

gohome:
My friend, He mustn't, He can subdue due to accept him with or without force, It has happened before, it is happening as we speak, it can happen again, The British were not Yorubanised, The Yoruba are not in anyway stronger than the Saudis, go to Saudi abd see hoe they have been Americanised

look if you want to be or any of your family member want to be the governor of a state you are not indigenous to,, ,, Fine

GOOD LUCK with your ambition

gohome:
Do you think the FCT is for the Hausa/Fulani? go and check its leaders. The fact is that most Nigerians are very dumb. We all don't have the simple sense of history. Were the Yorubas created by God in Lagos? For your information, the true Lagosians are the ilaeje folks, not these other migrants from Ile-ife. They were so unlucky, the Binis chased them to the waters and named it EKO a bini word for conquest, . Dindn't Oduduwa meet some settlers when he migrated from Bini? What about the Williams and Pedros ( they were wise to quickly yorubanised), the slaves from Brazil? are these not the so called Yorubas running things in lagos? Whether we like it or not, one day it will happen. A non Lagosian though yoruba is already the biggest politician, soon it will spread to non yoruba. In so far as its the Democracy we know, a game of number, tell me why a Dangote, which i think he is really not interested cannot win if all the non- yorubas vote for him for instant.

Some not so smart people keep spraying their mouth and saying Lagos did not benefit from FG, tell me one correct structure in lagos that is not FG oriented, Third Mainland, infact all the bridges, the hotels, VI, Ikoyi. Yaba Surulere, Lagos is what it is today because of FG and foreigners, WORDS, go to other Yoruba States and weeps,, is it Ibadan or Akure, Ekiti,

So in summary, time changes things, people mix with people and become a different entity eg mixture of Ijaw and Yoruba is Illaje, A mixture of Yoruba and BIni is ITsekiri, The Mixture of Ibo and Bini is AGbor, so a mixture of me though originally from delta and a yoruba, (because I stay in Lagos) is a Lagosian

ONE NIGERIA

Lagos was settled at various times by hunters and fishermen from the Àwórì sub-nationality. Originally based in Iseri on the Ògùn River about 20 miles from the island, the initial wave of settlers led by Arómiré ("the one that becomes personable at the sight of a

Lagos rests on the Gulf of Guinea. ()
river", established a presence in Ìddó and Èbúté Métta. Arómiré also grew vegetables, especially pepper, on a site where Iga Ìdúngànràn, the palace or official residence of the Oba of Lagos now stands. Iga Ìdúngànràn is an Àwórì term meaning house on pepper farm. The palace is thus not only an important symbol of the historical traditions of Lagos; its name also helps keep alive the site's association with vegetable farming by Arómiré, the city's first settler.
From these bases the Àwórì settlers moved further south, towards the creeks and the sea. One major reason why they moved was because their increasing population created the need for more space. Another was safety and security. Yorùbáland, of which Lagos was a part, had become embroiled in the long-running wars involving ethnic groups, communities, chiefdoms, kingdoms, and other political units of the time. The island settlements faced war from the Ègbás and the Ìjèbús, both Yorùbá-speaking nationalities. The ancient Benin Empire, in present-day Edo State of Nigeria also invaded the island around the year 1600.

There are conflicting accounts of the latter episode. Some have argued that the Binis actually founded the Lagos monarchy or system of rulership, apparently in the image of Benin's. Ashipa, the first Oba of Lagos, was a Yorùbá chief but not a Lagosian. It is known also that between the sixteenth and nineteenth centuries, the Benin Empire extended as far as Porto-Novo, west of Lagos. The Oba of Benin did appoint viceroys or representatives on the island and approved all appointees to the office of Oba of Lagos. In return, Lagos Obas paid tribute to Oba of Benin in recognition of the latter's superior status. Other historians have insisted that the Oba of Benin waged war on the island for the same reasons wars were then prevalent.

One of these was the desire by reigning monarchs to expand control over weaker, less populous peoples or neighboring communities, kingdoms, and empires. Another reason concerned the new trans-Atlantic slave trade. For those who participated in the trade as middlemen, warfare did provide a quick and sure supply of war captives who could then be sold as slaves and shipped to the New World. By an estimate, some 500,000 people may have been sold as indentured slaves and shipped from Lagos to the Americas and the Carribean, in particular Bahia, Cuba, and St. Helena. Anyway, for Arómiré and early settlers of the island, moving further south away from the mainland towards the sea was a mechanism to escape the wars that ravaged Yorùbáland from the seventeenth century. The wars and the disruptions associated with them were to become a justification for imposing British colonial control first on the island and later on what is now Nigeria.

From the mid-nineteenth century, freed Yorùbá slaves started returning to Lagos in waves first from Brazil and then from Sierra Leone. In 1847, Oba Kòsókó of Lagos sent his close friend and adviser Chief Oshòdì Tápà to South America to invite slaves with Yorùbá ancestry to return home. The trip yielded results in 1851 when 130 expatriates arrived in Lagos. By 1861 when Lagos formally became a British colony, the number of returnees had risen to about 3,000. The Brazilian expatriates brought with them skills in masonry, carpentry, and tailoring, a strong Catholic faith, and extensive Portuguese cultural traits.

Sierra Leonean expatriates, or Saros, mainly of Ègbá origins in present-day Abéòkúta in Ògùn State of Nigeria, started returning to Lagos in trickles about 1838. The reigning Oba Kòsókó did very little to make them feel welcome, so it was not until 1852 after Oba Kòsókó had been deposed by the British and replaced by Oba Akíntóyè, that Saros returned to Lagos in large numbers. They numbered about 2,500 by 1861 and were granted land in a district on the island still known as Saro Town.

http://www.city-data.com/world-cities/Lagos-History.html

gohome:
Do you think the FCT is for the Hausa/Fulani? go and check its leaders. The fact is that most Nigerians are very dumb. We all don't have the simple sense of history. Were the Yorubas created by God in Lagos? For your information, the true Lagosians are the ilaeje folks, not these other migrants from Ile-ife. They were so unlucky, the Binis chased them to the waters and named it EKO a bini word for conquest, . Dindn't Oduduwa meet some settlers when he migrated from Bini? What about the Williams and Pedros ( they were wise to quickly yorubanised), the slaves from Brazil? are these not the so called Yorubas running things in lagos? Whether we like it or not, one day it will happen. A non Lagosian though yoruba is already the biggest politician, soon it will spread to non yoruba. In so far as its the Democracy we know, a game of number, tell me why a Dangote, which i think he is really not interested cannot win if all the non- yorubas vote for him for instant.

Some not so smart people keep spraying their mouth and saying Lagos did not benefit from FG, tell me one correct structure in lagos that is not FG oriented, Third Mainland, infact all the bridges, the hotels, VI, Ikoyi. Yaba Surulere, Lagos is what it is today because of FG and foreigners, WORDS, go to other Yoruba States and weeps,, is it Ibadan or Akure, Ekiti,

So in summary, time changes things, people mix with people and become a different entity eg mixture of Ijaw and Yoruba is Illaje, A mixture of Yoruba and BIni is ITsekiri, The Mixture of Ibo and Bini is AGbor, so a mixture of me though originally from delta and a yoruba, (because I stay in Lagos) is a Lagosian

ONE NIGERIA

can you stop saying rubbish, mumu

who told you the illaje were the first occupants of lagos mumu

the very first were the awori people who were conquered by bini people so stop this lies you are saying

also the federal government invested in lagos just as they invested in kano and abuja why is that there are ijaws people in power today

can you just think before you post,., ideeeiot