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AdedoyinO:
No need engaging you. All the best with your self-rule.

Wirinet finished you.
I just came across this you are so ignorant and he shredded your points accurately how on earth do you think abortion is a painful procedure?
Lol, go and read and leave your comfort zone must self-righteous people like you are clueless about the realities of many.
When women like you talk I a woman myself am embarrassed that we have many women today who don't mind taking other women back to the stone age.
Live and let live bodily autonomy is a must and women must be left to make decisions concerning their bodies. It is none of your business.
Your arguments against the right of women to choose like most forced -birthers like yourself are not grounded on facts or reason that is why Wirinet shredded it with facts.

Benmob:
abeg shut up,I which ur mama do diz same to u,u for no come to they reply rubbish to me,muderer abortion mama

You are so daft. Have you bothered to read why women have abortions keep quiet if you are clueless on something you must not talk.
My parents wanted to have me don't force that rubbish on others who don't want it or will you adopt and care for the children?
Common get out

kingxsamz:
Many Christian men are against abortion until they get an unwanted pregnancy.

Don't mind them

They want to have an opinion on women's privacy.

Benmob:
When I was watching Franch 24 news, one woman was interview,which she was supporting d abortion right,but my annoying part, she was holding her 6 month old daughter, I which i was d Journalist I for tell or ask her, why she born d child na,she for just kill her from her womb

Because she chose to have the child you cannot force that on other people is that too hard to get?
Don't be ignorant.

armyofone:
Many rich people with special need kid don't abort them. They have the money to provide the expensive care thru out life.

So don't use Amy as case study.
I'm ok with what the supreme just did. Let each states make their decisions People should make love responsibly and with eyes opened.

In a nutshell women should stop making love to men it is as simple as that.
Why should states invade people's privacy or are you not aware that liberty is a fundamental human right? If government doesn't get to train your kids for you why should they tell you what to do? Maybe when Thomas gets 4 votes to overturn Griswold and Obergefell then you will understand that states can tell you the birth control to use. Fundamental rights should not be a jurisdiction issue anyway you are a man so you don't know what it means until they come for you next.
What about the states that outlaw abortions for rape and incest those poor girls and women definitely did not make love responsibly did they?

States decision was what caused Dred Scott v. Sanford, States rights are excuses used to fight American civil rights and liberties and wanting to take America into Jim Crow for someone who lives there and likely knows their history you should be familiar with that dog whistle. Very soon it will be states rights to have a confederacy.

basilico:
The foetus has lungs but every function goes in/out through the placenta and that supplies everything to the foetus. Does the foetus eat? A pregnant mother is discouraged from drinking alcohol because it will get to the foetus's bloodstream. Can a human do without oxygen. Never. Does the placenta go to the lungs. No. How does oxygen get to the foetus which is enclosed in the amniotic fluid.

Stop dehumanizing unborn babies to make them expendable. God loves them too.

Infact I saw a question if the foetus is part of the mothers body so she can do anything with it. the question was the foetus and mom share different DNA and half the time different gender.

The foetus does not have rights more substantial over the woman when it has not become viable.
Does the foetus breath you have not answered that question stop deflecting and tackle the scientist head on?

How can a foetus is ascribed personhood when it is not conscious don't be daft. Do you conduct census and every ascribed thing on a breathing human to a foetus?
Nobody is dehumanising a foetus the question and reality remain a foetus can never have a substantial right over a woman, a woman is a liberty to decide for herself it is not your business to pry into the personal lives of women and tell them what to do.
The foetus is expendable if it was no exception for the life of the mother would not be a thing.

God loves children that is why he wants them fed and given the best not thrown away, abandoned and thrown into child abuse and enslaved. And by the way in a Liberal democracy rights are not gotten from your religious text.

Livelystone01.

Go and do a 101 class on statutory interpretation laws are not always explicit they can be implied that too.

Democrats have mobilised their base.

In the coming months these people will regret touching Roe because they will have help give it a codified status.
Abortion will rather be codified nationally than banned nationally because that is where the majority are.

Livelystone01:
You are the person arguing blindly but you say I am. You are following the rage and analysis of people in the media, people who are politically aligned to go against anything that doesn't go with what they want even if it is right.

I asked you a question, what would you expect from the judiciary (in this case, the supreme court), to make laws or to interpret them? Is the abortion issue on the constitution? How is it now a constitutional right?

This should not be emotional please.

Ok have you heard about what we call statutory interpretation?
Have you heard about judicial philosophies and interpretations?
The 14th amendment due process clause establishes a right to privacy. It is a constitutional right because privacy is in the constitution and the justices extended it to abortion rights

Read on the 9th amendment that covers unenumerated rights and understand that not all rights must be stated under the constitution for it to be protected.
Read the God damn Roe v Wade opinion and every case it links itself with.

madrid5:
name one beneficial law,made by the republicans in the past 20 years

The current make up of the Supreme Court, tax cuts for the wealthy and more guns.

Also laws on how to make the lives of blacks, women and others terrible.

Livelystone01:
Calm down, relax and see that you are off point on this one.

What do you expect from the supreme court to make a law or interpret a law?

Sometimes let emotion be removed from certain issues.

My guy what part of the 4th, 9th and 14th amendments do you not understand.

Have you bothered to read the majority opinion in every landmark cases this current Supreme Court wants to overturn?
Do you think those justices formulated those laws out of thin air or you just went to one right wing site to swallow BS?

Yes when women's rights are under attack in 2022 we should not be emotional about it.

Give me a break.

madrid5:
Apart from the morality of abortion(I support abortions anyway)this is just horrible politics from the republicans,Biden was dying in the polls,with news of inflation ranging everywhere,this republican idiots just use their own hands lose election,just a few months till November their eyes I go clear.
I use to think abortion debate was 50-50 in America,but 70% of Americans support abortion ,it's fair to say this ruling is a minority ruling,and it will destroy the republican party.

I am telling you abortion rights are really popular especially among under 40 voters.

Those fringe minority groups have handed democrats a win because they will not stop campaigning on this issue and young Americans who are scared of their future rights will come out enmasse especially those in support of Gay rights.

Livelystone01:
Nothing was done, the supreme court did the right thing here.

Let's not be emotional here. This same supreme court will support abortion in future if the congress can make it a law.

What people should be doing is to elecr officials who will make this into law instead of the noises they are encouraging online.

They did not stop arguing blindly and buying into bad fate arguments that many legal scholars have over time countered.
The same court upheld Planned Parenthood v. Casey making it a super precedent. And why would people not be emotional when women who fought for year's to have the rights they have literally are at risk of death and imprisonment for having those rights.
I ask you if Griswold is overturned are you telling me that the government has a right to debate the form of birth control I use? When did my liberty and fundamental rights become up for debates for the states or do you not know that Griswold is the precedent for Roe?
What part of the 4th, 9th and 14th amendment do you not understand?

basilico:
A foetus feels pain at 15 weeks. And has a heartbeat then.

.That is disputed however my next question is not
Does the foetus breath?
Is breathing not a sign of life? If you are faced with a dilemma of saving a born baby and frozen eggs, zygotes, foetuses which one would you pick?.

Livelystone01:
November is not looking certain for both parties as we speak.

If I'm being honest, I think the Democrats are still a little behind schedule when it comes to taking over the house because the economy is not smiling. People will get over this news in a month, but the economy will always remain because that's what actually affects people directly.

I tilt towards the Democrats angles in most cases but they are not really hitting the right nails in the right places to give them a clear majority in this year's midterm.
They are also being lazy, depending on media to help them instead of doing some ground word like the Republicans.

There's still time though, let's just watch how things will unfold.

When you get back to reality you can quote me.

It seems you have no idea what these people just did.

basilico:
You are the one crying that abortion has been 'banned' while all SCOTUS said was that the matter should NEVER have been decided by the court as it was not explicitly stated in the constitution But the states should legislate it. NYC, Chicago, California etc will allow abortions . Maybe even after one minute above birth.

Does a baby have a right to be born and live especially when the baby can feel pain, can kick someone and has a heartbeat?

A foetus scientifically does not feel pain and does not breath stop arguing against science with invalid things.
Mike Pence has told us that they will ban abortion nationally when they realise that nothing will fundamentally change then this hypocritical SCOTUS will gut states rights.

Lol, I am not crying just sad for the women who will suffer temporarily as a result of this terrible decision.

Livelystone01:
...but what are the noises I'm seeing here? The judgment is clear and simple and not against women or anyone. People shouting on the internet are being mischievous and taking advantage of others inability to be objective enough to see that the court is right on this.

I am pro choice, but let's be honest here. The supreme court did the right thing here, the constitution never covered this issue, they don't actually have the right to bring it in unless congress passes a law that they can interpret to protect abortion.

The court interprets laws, not make them.

This isn't against women but a true interpretation of what is or is not in the constitution, at least for now.

States can have theirs or the majority in congress can work a universal one for the country.

Yes because there is currently nowhere segregation is criminalised very soon Brown v. Board of education will be left to the states after all it is state's right to decide whether black people can live with white people.
Then they will focus on interracial marriages, contraceptives and same-sex unions after all there is nowhere in the constitution these rights were explicitly stated. Since the constitution does not cover this issue let the Supreme Court overturn them. It seems you don't know the 9th amendment,14th amendment and all. Do you see how stupid that argument sounds?
How can laws depending on your liberty be delegated state by state are you alien to issues of fundamental human rights? Have you heard about the UDHR?

Since it is a state issue what is the point of having a federal supreme Court why did they rule against New York state yesterday when historically there were no bullets when the second amendment was written?

The good takeaway from this unfortunate decision is that Democrats have learnt from the GQP and are channelling their funds, organising at local and state levels to ensure that Roe/Casey will be codified in the coming months or years.

This is a good sign for November believe me when I say that this issue alone can give democrats big wins. Even the polls before now have not shown a single push of any red wave Tsunami not to talk of Roe being overturned

If Democrats hold congress Clarence Thomas is on his way out fill his seat with a liberal, learn from conservatives and do something about the court that is currently losing it's legitimacy.

Justices Sotomayor, Kagan and Breyer's dissents were the only thing I read and I am glad that Kagan and Sotomayor called the court what it is. Losing it's legitimacy in the eyes of the American people.
The only thing that will save Americans is the fact that the young generation of Americans tend to support the policies of the left.

gambojimeta:
I ah sorry fa da women witi da ectopic pregnantcy

This is tragic beyond proportions and it is so sad that these illiterates do not see the bigger picture.

As the liberal justices point out the only reason these precedents were overturned is not because of any legal brilliance or constitutionality these hypocrites don't care.

It was overturned because many sat at home in 2016 and let RepubliQans win.

gambojimeta:
Isa almosts unbeliefavles dati ya ah haf pikins . Andi ya makey it ah worse, ya ah haf 3 gals. Isi likey god ah gif ya da girls ta teach ya ah lessons Ina life soons dati eferytins Isa nat always asi easy asi ABC


Kikikikikikiki

Women will forced to carry pregnancies of rapist, incest and life threatening pregnancies in Arkansas and Alabama and some idiots think that this will just go away.
https://twitter.com/NicoleClowneyAR/status/1540349907357167617?t=RM7EYhyEC8UuOWX76HpRBQ&s=19


This link is horrifying.

basilico:
The SCOTUS ruled that abortion is not a constitutional right. It is not. Its a matter for states to decide., Get over it.
I know you have cried salty tears today

What a clown. Who does not understand what liberty means and that every right is not explicit a in the constitution as stated under the 9th amendment. Are these partisan hacks more intelligent and insightful than the previous justices who affirmed that right.

Nobody is crying you will be the one crying in a few months when abortion becomes nationalised

Early prediction in November.

The midterm elections will record its highest turnout in any election.

These fringe minority have no idea what they are playing with.

Sanpipita and basilico go through this thread.
This is terrible in all proportions.

https://twitter.com/NicoleClowneyAR/status/1540349907357167617?t=RM7EYhyEC8UuOWX76HpRBQ&s=19

Basilico try not to anger me by telling me that you don't have a brain to think, I know that already.

Get lost let women who know what affects them speak let the doctors and scientist speak.

Shut up.

Look at these clowns nobody is talking about responsibilities for men it is all about controlling women for these clowns.

I did not read that trash you wrote there and will likely not read it next.

basilico:
[s]Are you paid to promote abortion. If you are getting intimate you have 20 days of safe unprotected sex. If you are raped, or incest or not planning to have a baby within 15 weeks you should have known.
Again women have tens of ways of preventing pregnancy. Including the morning after pill to prevent the ova attaching to the uterine wall within 72 hours. I dont consider that an abortion And doctors have said a foetal heartbeat is the demarcation of when to abort.
Are these people dumb, thousands of protesters who want to have their cake and eat it.
If you have regular periods you can always use the calendar, you can get also 5 year injection but which will make your butt bigger.
If you have a regular partner you communicate and he will understand when not to get intimacy. What was Beijing all about.

The left has normalized abortion , When I was growing up abortion was taboo. In the Middle East a wife ( there could be three others concurrently) you cant even use contraceptives. And you can never say no when your husband wants.
Why did Janet Jackson get a divorce?[/s]

Shut up and let sensible people talk you clown.

Get out of my mentions

In Alabama a health care provider can go to jail for a life time even for treating a victim of rape but a rapist gets a lower sentence and in other states even the rapist have rights to their children.
The rights of the rapist are more more important than women, the rights of guns are more important than women.

Is this America?

This decision affects IUD's, IVF and miscarriages.

This is really bad and it is so terrible that these short sighed idiots don't see it.

I am glad that many American companies are setting up to protect women.

There is no leader an ally of America that has not condemned this decision. As the world is progressing America is retrogressing.

Shame.

I am begging the GQP to bring a bill next week that will get to SCOTUS and have them overturn settled rights.

How long before one of those clowns file a case that will get to SCOTUS and have Griswold and Obergefell overturned?

Which red state will take the award for being a joke will it be Texas, Oklahoma etc?

One thing is certain there is no way RepubliQans are going to win in November and 2024 after this ruling.
As Hapney65 said. It is however sad the number of women that will be scapegoats after this temporary set back.