₦airaland Forum

Xenowerk4000:
I understand you perfectly but the mindset of Ikwerre people today which was imparted on them by their fathers' who wanted to dissociate from the Igbo ethnic group has done a lot of damage . They are filled with so much hate and anyone who calls them 'Igbo' is automatically an enemy . Most of them think that Igbos are after their land/seaport and feel insecure and Igbo people have received so much insults because of the ,'Ikwerre Identity issue' . So , It's necessary to leave them alone . If you've been insulted by an Ikwerre you'll understand .

Those ikwerre folks are terrible lots... They have a lot of desensitization program to enroll

Igboid:
Voice in Igala is "Ukomu" and not "Onu".

Onu in Igala has nothing to do with voice or spokes person. This whole argument is becoming redundant.

I never said that Igbos don't bear onu. But you have to know that Onu as found in Ogbonnaya onu, Onuora (people's voice) , Onunkwo( Voice of Nkwo) OnuIgbo( Voice of Igbo), etc.
Is not pronounced like the Onu in Onu Ebu and they don't have same meaning.

It is.... It is exactly pronounced that way ! Onu Ebu is the title of their king and what they call their king toll date meaning Spokesperson or mouthpiece of Ebu

Or can you tell me what Onu means I'm Igala

You lied on Onu being Yoruba and I caught you now you don change post !

They have been igbonized period... You keep saying things you aw not sure of... Just like you made a mention of Ibaaji... Dude go and drink sir... It's Sunday

Igboid:
I don't know who you are fighting.
I'm an Igbo from Idemili North Anambra. And we over here don't also care about Ikwerre.

But we reasonably would not want an Ikwerre from Elele whose people are part of the Igbophobic Ogbakor Ikwerre organization, taking the Igbo tag as and when they feel like.

Their must be a certain level of rigidity attached to who should and who shouldn't be called Igbo.

You can't have an Ikwerre whose people are anti Igbo allowed free access to Igbo tag. It's an insult to our intelligence and takes away any prestige the Igbo tag has.
Ohanaeze are a bunch of unserious people , which is exactly why they have Ikwerres in their midst.
Little wonder they are not in anyway interested in protecting Igbo interests. Because if they do, then judgement must start from home, and that means expelling Ikwerres and other Bininods in their midst from the group.

A group should have a strict membership to hold any relevance. As it stands. Ndiigbo have none, which shouldn't be so.
But some of us are trying our best to correct that mistake by jolting our people back to their senses.

I totally agree with you , I am from Ukpor in Anambra also and we don't even give a damn about the ikwere because they don't have anything to bring to the table apart from hooliganism and cultism but we have to still tell them the truth

MelesZenawi:
My town union is even more powerful than Oranaeze ndigbo.

yet we don't even know the name of that so called town union... Where is it in the map!

Well... Sometimes when animals with horns are called , snails pops up once in a while


We have heard you loud and clear
.good day

Igboid:
Whether you like it or not. Igbo is a conglomerate of related yet independent tribes and towns who are united by mutually intelligible dialects of a language that runs in a continuum as you travel the length and breadth of the area and by common culture, history and life outlook.

If any tribe in this conglomerate wants to pull away and stand on its own. Then it's free to do so. But it must be ensured that they by no means benefit from the Union by the rest of the tribes that choose to stay with the union.

As Ikwerre on the majority have decided that they are better of without the Igbo union. It is the duty of the rest of the remaining tribes in the union to ensure that no Ikwerre person under any guise or form benefits from the union, since Ikwerre don't contribute to the union.
This would mean that no Ikwerre persons should be allowed to identify as Igbo or represent Igbo.

If for any reason an Ikwerre person likes the Igbo union and wants Ikwerre to be a member. Such Ikwerre person must take his fight to the floor of apex Ikwerre organization, the Ogbakor Ikwerre and win the battle there by making them accept wholly Ikwerre commitment and membershipbof the Igbo union by issuing a public notice.
If he can't win the battle against the Ogbakor Ikwerre, then such person should get his own town union , for example Elele town union, to publicly announce dissociation with Ogbakor Ikwerre and all she represents and reaffirm commitment to the Igbo nation.

Only after this, would an Elele man be fully accepted as an Igbo and accorded full rights as nwafor.

Of course. Elele people will not do this. They will simply toy with your small brains, telling you they are Igbos, while they remain fully represented in Ogbakor Ikwerre, a well known Igbo phobic and anti Igbo organization.


This is not rocket science. It's about time Ndiigbo stopped sentimentality and embrace pragmatism.

For the sake of privacy, I would have given you many ikwere here in Lagos that are in Igbo meetings !

So what are you trying to say again ?

Dude you ain't got story
.. stop being sentimental! You are sounding funny ... What about Okechukwu that is Ohaneze scribe , he is an ikwerre man

Igboid:
Onu in Igala is a cognate of Olu in Yoruba. It's nothing to do with voice.

Go and research it.
Igala is not called a Yoruboid language for no reason.

Lies big lies... I live in Lagos and I speak Yoruba ... Mouth is called Enu not Onu so stop this madness .. and in Igbo Enu is. Different word meaning up

So Onu Ebu means the speaker or the spokesperson of Ebu and he bears igbo ne and Onu means spokesperson or mouthpiece of a person
.. Igbo bear that name example Ohbonnaya Onu

Show me one Igala man that bears the name Onu then I can take you serious .. if you can't ... Can you remain silent forever?

kingzizzy:
Anybody can claim any identity they want, thats not the issue. The issue is the reality on the ground. Someone speaks Igbo as his ancestral language and has an Igbo surname. If the person then turns around to say they are not Igbo, they need to explain where they got their Igbo language and surname from

Exactly that is my position... It's like a butterfly claiming that it's a bird because it flies but that doesn't stop the world knowing that butterfly is still an insect

It's like Michael Jackson tryin to e white doesn't still stop him as being referred as African American

Igboid:
Whether you like it or not. Igbo is a conglomerate of related yet independent tribes and towns who are united by mutually intelligible dialects of a language that runs in a continuum as you travel the length and breadth of the area and by common culture, history and life outlook.

If any tribe in this conglomerate wants to pull away and stand on its own. Then it's free to do so. But it must be ensured that they by no means benefit from the Union by the rest of the tribes that choose to stay with the union.

As Ikwerre on the majority have decided that they are better of without the Igbo union. It is the duty of the rest of the remaining tribes in the union to ensure that no Ikwerre person under any guise or form benefits from the union, since Ikwerre don't contribute to the union.
This would mean that no Ikwerre persons should be allowed to identify as Igbo or represent Igbo.

If for any reason an Ikwerre person likes the Igbo union and wants Ikwerre to be a member. Such Ikwerre person must take his fight to the floor of apex Ikwerre organization, the Ogbakor Ikwerre and win the battle there by making them accept wholly Ikwerre commitment and membershipbof the Igbo union by issuing a public notice.
If he can't win the battle against the Ogbakor Ikwerre, then such person should get his own town union , for example Elele town union, to publicly announce dissociation with Ogbakor Ikwerre and all she represents and reaffirm commitment to the Igbo nation.

Only after this, would an Elele man be fully accepted as an Igbo and accorded full rights as nwafor.

Of course. Elele people will not do this. They will simply toy with your small brains, telling you they are Igbos, while they remain fully represented in Ogbakor Ikwerre, a well known Igbo phobic and anti Igbo organization.


This is not rocket science. It's about time Ndiigbo stopped sentimentality and embrace pragmatism.

Oga nobody is forcing ikwere not to pull out! You are sounding agtated here.... Please who are the majority that agreed on this pull out? Is it the Ubima, the Elele, The Ogba , the Choba where exactly was that agreement made
You guys just talk anyhow

Beside that we in Nnewi don't even care if they pull out or not... We are doing far fr better

Have a better day

DAVE5:
The oil is not for my own car, someone was fixing his car with the mech I use

I use mobil 1, and as at when last I bought I got it for 21k each in two places

The break pad nah mech buy am himself so honestly I don't know which one he used, first time he changed was when I just bought it, so I heard noise from my tire and took it to him, he told me 25k for quality breaks but shaku shaku 15k for both front and back, but on trust from who referred me to him, I put the quality one and yesterday again, my breaks were totally worn out so he changed again, this is only the second time I'm buying Benz breaks and first Benz I'm using gan

So why I'm asking is cos he told someone else 15k for oil and the guy discovered in his search for another thing that same pill costs 7500

My dear mobil 1 is okay but as of the brake pad.. that is funny I read that ACDelco is the best but I don't know how much! I just give my mechanic money the last time I have him about 40k for alignment and brake changing ... So I don't know how much the brake is particularly also I learnt that ceramic brakes are better

Maybe the gurus in the house can assist us in the area of brake pad because that is the most crucial and also your driving style.... How is your driving style.... Do you place legs on brakes for long when an is moving etc... These are also factors to look into

Igboid:
Onu in Igala is a cognate of Olu in Yoruba. Onu igala sounds more like Onu for next in Igbo than Onu for mouth. I hope you know that?

My take is that the Igala migrants and refugees in Ebu were able to outnumber the aboriginal Igbos there and hence were able to seize the control of the monarchy of the town and hence retained their Igala language as first language while being bilingual.
In the neighboring Illah where Igalas also migrated to, the Igbo aboriginals outnumbered them and retained the throne, hence the Igalas were totally and completely assimilated in Illah only heard about in exaggerated and distorted origin stories as is norm in Igbo speaking realm outside SE.

I have no doubt that you are an IPOB member. You lots are always quick to throw expletives around and too lacking in knowledge of Igbo and her relationship with aggressive minorities neighbours. Which is why you lots are ignorantly proposing a Frankenstein monster country with the minorities (Edos, Ijaws, and Igala) who are not only Igbophobic, but are actively eying and working overnight to assimilate Igbo speaking groups and territories and shrink our already small land mass more.

You lots are so blind that your ways defie logic and common sense.

LoL..
Funny guy Onu is mouth (Spokesman ). .. in Igbo and has nothing to do with Yoruba ... Also what about the kind name and the names of town president

You must be one of these Creek boys ... I don't think you are intellectual sound to have this conversation... You are sentimental and I don't deal with sentiments. I say the truth

Igboid:
Onu in Igala is a cognate of Olu in Yoruba. Onu igala sounds more like Onu for next in Igbo than Onu for mouth. I hope you know that?

My take is that the Igala migrants and refugees in Ebu were able to outnumber the aboriginal Igbos there and hence were able to seize the control of the monarchy of the town and hence retained their Igala language as first language while being bilingual.
In the neighboring Illah where Igalas also migrated to, the Igbo aboriginals outnumbered them and retained the throne, hence the Igalas were totally and completely assimilated in Illah only heard about in exaggerated and distorted origin stories as is norm in Igbo speaking realm outside SE.

I have no doubt that you are an IPOB member. You lots are always quick to throw expletives around and too lacking in knowledge of Igbo and her relationship with aggressive minorities neighbours. Which is why you lots are ignorantly proposing a Frankenstein monster country with the minorities (Edos, Ijaws, and Igala) who are not only Igbophobic, but are actively eying and working overnight to assimilate Igbo speaking groups and territories and shrink our already small land mass more.

You lots are so blind that your ways defie logic and common sense.

The greatest mistake you are making is relating to me with a rascal organization like IPOB... That is hieght of stupidity! I am pure Igbo man that puts things in proper perspective not as of I have anything to gain ... I don't see how ikwere is better off ... I know Rivers in and out from PH to Elele to Omaleru to Etche and Ahoda... And trust me these places are backward very very... But I would say thing in the way they are .. I stand with the truth to hell with IPOB stuff... Some of us don't care about that stuff

Igboid:
Igala is totally related to Yoruba.
The language is Yoruboid.
It's an academic fact established by linguists of international repute. You cant argue this.

Igala assimilated aboriginal Igbos who where at Idah from the very beginning of Igala formation.
As well as Igbos whose ancestral lands in Kogi East have been Igalanized.
The same Igalanization was happening in Anambra North and Nsukka area before the arrival of the colonials. Though Nsukka people rallied together and defeated the Igala invaders.

Igala assimilated aboriginal Igbos in Kogi East, while Ndiigbo assimilated Igala invaders and migrants(refugees) in Anambra North , Enugu North and Anioma .

Igala assimilated Igbo in kogi yet they didn't change the Igbo names of their towns... Abeg define assimilated here... You don't assimilate a people yet they retain their Igbo towns , names and culture ... You see you should look up for the word cultural assimilation then when you are done come back for proper lecturing

Igboid:
Igala is totally related to Yoruba.
The language is Yoruboid.
It's an academic fact established by linguists of international repute. You cant argue this.

Igala assimilated aboriginal Igbos who where at Idah from the very beginning of Igala formation.
As well as Igbos whose ancestral lands in Kogi East have been Igalanized.
The same Igalanization was happening in Anambra North and Nsukka area before the arrival of the colonials. Though Nsukka people rallied together and defeated the Igala invaders.

Igala assimilated aboriginal Igbos in Kogi East, while Ndiigbo assimilated Igala invaders and migrants(refugees) in Anambra North , Enugu North and Anioma .

You are a big clown trust me... Igala assimilated Igbo in Ebu yet they speak Igbo as their language and the Igbo being assimilated don't speak Igala ( now this is stupidity)
Igala assimilated igbo in Ebu yet their king is named Onu Ebu (Igbo meaning the spokesman of Ebu)

Chai .... Your definition of assimilated is funny... Can you go back to queen premier 1 ... You need to have a good grasp of terms

Please read this and see the Igbo names of the Kings such as Aninta (small land ) etc ... I am not here for argument ! I put things in proper perspective


Even the president is Nwakalor... Is that Igala name?


You see... We have a lot of kids here

Igboid:
As high as 48% of British people voted to be part of EU. Yet the 52% who wanted out had their way.
And even though the 48% would want to identify with EU, the EU will not accept them, and would make sure they are treated same way as their 52% brothers who voted against EU inclusion.

This is how you run a Union. It must be made in such a way that no group gets to eat their cake and still have it, lest the union becomes useless.

You lots claiming and accepting few Ikwerres who accept Igbo tag, even when you are well aware that the majority of Ikwerre people are not only against Igbo Union, but are voraciously Igbophobic are doing harm to Igbo as an ethnic group.

Ogbakor Ikwerre the apex Ikwerre organization is anti Igbo. All Ikwerre town unions including Elele are members of Ogbakor Ikwerre and have representatives there.
If they have issues with Ogbakor Ikwerre stance on Ikwerre not being Igbo, they should go and make it there and publish their communique on dailies.

Ikwerre is not Igbo. It's the duty and obligation of any Igbo nationalist who wants Igbo progress to hold to heart this truth and always proclaim it.

My dear your anology is wrong very wrong... You mistake EU (which is man made ) with ethnicity which is Natural

Try again ! I am not particularly about ikwerre being Igbo or not ! Trust me it doesn't change anything to the Igbo ... Or even ikwerre

We just have to put things in proper perspective and stop being emotional ikwerre just like Nkwerre , Okwelle are Igbo sub group ... Period it is not debatable

What you can talk is if they decide to be on their own? Oh yes they have that right because nobody would force them ... But that still doesn't change the fact that they are igboid

chidemavian:
One thing we all fail to understand is that



It is not a must you give it in church!


Tithe makes meat available in the house of God!. So you if you can make such provisions directly to the needy, you owe God nothing

If it's not a must
Why are these pastors swearing and cursing everyone


They are showing desperation

Igboid:
Mercy Chinwo is not Igbo Biko.
Ikwerre is not Igbo.

Stop this already.

But many ikwere identify themselves as Igbo... My cousins are from Elele and they would tell you they are Igbo.... Would you tell odinaka that he isn't Igbo

Who are you to tell them or anyone who is Igbo or not? Who gave you that authority?

Here in Lagos and outside Rivers ikwere join Igbo in their meetings


So who gave you the mandate ?

Igboid:
I can't make sense of this verbose and edited response.

I never said Igala came from Yoruba. I said that Igala ancestors were same people as Yoruba ancestors, until the Ebira migrated down and cut Igala ancestors off from Yorubas (Okun). This is the point Igala started differing from Yoruba, and when Igala met aboriginal Igbos in parts of Kogi East and assimilated them, they ended up creating a new language from Yoruba which was made more distinct by Jukun subjugation and Idoma influence on Igala.

Igala is a relatively new creation. Igala = Igbo + Yoruba +Idoma + Jukun.

Yoruba is clearly centuries older than Igala formation. Igala language is Yoruboid.

Ibaji represents a disproportionate mixture of Igbo and aboriginals Yoruboid base of Igala, where Igbos seem to have contributed more percentage of the mixture than in other parts of Igala.
The typical Ibaji man is Igbo in physical look and to large extent, mentality too.

Igbos didn't borrow red cap from Igala.


If Igalas will not recognize the existence of pockets of Igbo speaking groups whether bilingual or monolingual in Igbo language in Kogi East, like you lots are currently doing.
Be rest assured that Igala in due time will also have to give up claims to pockets of Igala communities in Anambra North, Enugu North and Anioma.

What is good for the goose is also after all, also good for the gander.

You have refused to acknowledge the existence and presence of Igbo speaking groups in Kogi East. Choosing rather to refer to them as migrants and tenants. But you want Ndiigbo to not brand you as migrants in Anambra, Enugu and Anioma.
Just pray Nigeria continues to exist, because the day Nigeria ceases to exist, will be the end of you and other aggressive minorities (Edo and Ijaw) who are looking to annex parts of Igboland you were accommodated in as refugees or which your ancestors invaded.

Take note that we know our boundaries and will not be gentle in reclaiming them and laying to waste anyone or anything that would stand on our way.

Wait a minute Igala aren't related to yoruba and Igala never assimilated Aboriginal Igbo it is the other way round

Revolva:
You are a psycho ..ebi speak enuani Igbo as a second language they adopt based on their enclaves around Igbo speaking and they are a small community made up of nine villages ..they are originally from.idah and they aknowledge it and they speak igala witin themselves in Ebu dialect
They do visit idah anytime there is festivals

Igbo is not their root but igala ok

Oh forget root or the stem the truth is that they have been igbonized

The name of their king is Onu Ebu ( Onu is am Igbo word for mouth or spokesperson)

They use offor an Igbo cultural symbols.... They have been igbonized... That's the way it is. Majority tribe swallow smaller tribes the way Igbo tribes swallowed the Olukumi in Delta , the Ijaw (kalabari) in Rivers

The same way Yoruba swallowed Egun in Lagos and Kabba in Egun

Aw with Hausa and minority tribes in North .. it's just natural

MetaPhysical:

I dont dream about fake Ibo.

My true Igbo brothers know I love them.

Anambra is the one causing friction between true Igbos and others. You should cover your face in shame.

Can you leave Anambra out

Mercy Chinwo is from Rivers and we have a lot of Igbo that are indigenous to Rivers irrespective of political correctness.. she sings in Igbo, her name is Igbo ... So Biko she is Igbo of Rivers State

Why all. These argument

chijokz:
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the only person who benefits and prospers is the account owner in which all tithes and offerings are paid into. Hypothetically, let's say a church has 200 members that earn $50,000 per annum and all pay their tithes of 10% which leaves them with $45,000 while total tithes paid into the pastor's account is 200x5,000 = $1,000,000 per annum.
That's why pastors will defend and continue to preach the tithing doctrine indefinitely.

Now you are very intelligent.... I respect you

How do people believe these pastors seff on tithes ! It baffles me

DAVE5:
Ehen, 2 years is a long time, that means it's not that bad, I usually don't expect things such as supposed original car battery to last, I just have it at the back of my mind that I'll change it sooner or later

I change my breakpad today and my guy bill me 25k just for the breakpad alone, then adding his bill

Abeg how much dem dey sell breakpad cos someone else confirmed to me that same mech guy told him 15k for an oil which actually costs 7500 from other peeps in the market

Which kind brake pad be that ? And what type of oil! As a rule I have learnt to buy my oil... I hope y

Kobojunkie:
ROFLMAO


This man is desperate to see that his kingdom comes , at the expense of the Kingdom of Heaven.

lol

DAVE5:
eBay far ohh, that means it would take time to be delivered nah right

I would just manage the one I got till it needs replacement, by then I'd have better info on how to source for good battery just in case this one doesn't live up to expectation

But this one would last shaaa at least 2 yrs

ibbabah:
I bought mine 500. Most Nigerians are just after the money and not the services rendered. Some don’t even care if u are satisfied by the service they offer.

Lord bless you... That is exactly what I keep hammering to the ears of my mechanic... Yes he is good , he knows job but he is after money ... I tell him build relationships first ! Then money would always come ... It's a natural process

My friend upgraded to a newer Benz and he needs to sell this e klasse 320 to 4matic! I told him that I would put it here....

So interested buyers should DM me ....

DAVE5:
Yeah, turns out twas battery, changed it and now working P

My key is the 2nd from the right though

I don't think there's any such thing as original in this our full Nigeria ohh

Ibo boy go tell you;

This one 500
Original 1000
Extra original 1500

Which one I go pick inside

I Sha told my mech it's in his hands, anything happens, I hold him

My dear we have original ... The battery has grades some are Chinese while some are Europe... I prefer Bosch batteries you can order them from eBay

Ogbuu101:
Have owned that W204 for 4+ years now.
Apart from suspension parts,only significant thing I changed is rear differential for a cheap 25k.
Others na wear and tear items.
I wonder how ppl erroneously think that car is expensive to maintain.

Amazing car I must say from what they said!

DAVE5:
Okay, nothing do you, me just responded based on what I saw here


BTW:


Abeg my key no dey automatically unlock or lock my car since yesterday, the red flash light on it doesn't blink either when I press the lock or unlock buttons, I'm guessing it's probably the battery for the key

So since yesterday, I pull out the manual key from the key fob and use it to open the car

Help and/or advice is needed

Car type: 08 c300

I think it's battery , experienced it in my first Benz (C class Elegance ) the first key fob by the left ! Get original battery .

nonhuman:
How is the fuel consumption of benze 320 compared to camrry big Daddy

Please sir! It's not a comparison thread sir! I don't think anyone as complained about fuel consumption sir

kingreign:
why you want to insult Benz?

Bros... Abeg no mind am! Let's focus on problem and solutions...

We appreciate some of your inputs ! We are here to learn please ignore the troll

shortgun:
Like I said before it's possible that you replaced the faulty SBC module with a dead module.
SBC modules have a life span, once they get to full circle they stop to work.
This was how benz engineers created them.
They are wear and tear item...expect to see many used ones in the unregulated Nigeria spare parts markets.
The only way out is to order a new SBC module(brand new)

There are technicians who will work on the module to get it to work again indefinitely but I don't recommend this practice, it's dangerous.
I am telling you this cos I know you will encounter them in your quest to fix ur car.
What they do is to manipulate the counter and make it to stop counting break circles.
This is dangerous in my opinion but some people think otherwise.
SBC problems is common in your model 03-06 I think.
I don't know anyone in Benin
Ask people around that drive same car.

Goodluck.

Wow... I have learnt a whole lot from this .... This is what we want here! When we proffer solution we get responses and inputs

We can get this place sanitised !