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hahahahaha i dont like female bashing but this is true

LOL

but seriously, must Jonathan wear that hat all the time

Anas09:
@An2elect2.
Thank you brethren.
The Bible says;
1 Cor 1:18-22. For the preaching of the gospel is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 19 for it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and I will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 20 where is the wise? Where is the scribe, where is the disputer of this world (Pleatton)? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 for after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 for the Jews ask for a sign, and the greek seek after wisdom. But we preach christ crucified unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the greek foolishness. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Atheist claim to be intellectuals, wise and logical. Up there is what God has to say concerning you. Keep up blocking ur hearts and refusing to see reason, even when its sterring u in the face.

Peeeew! When i engage myself with this people i do it with so much relaxation cos am on the right path. It's so simple and i can't remember nursing any fear because there is absolutely nothing to lose or fear.

Those on the wrong are always on the defensive trying hard, working themselves up...atheism is hard work...no be moi moi o...you have to keep telling yourself God does not exist until you pass on.

And this comes with reading loads of books to block every ounce of simple sense in your head. These guys do not have the peace we enjoy...we've got to pity them, if not for anything but for that lack of peace.

Hehehe atheists chai eeya. As long as there is God there is hope er chai what a life even satan does not envy.

plaetton:
You must be really ignorant.

I guess you have never heard of the crusades?
Christians killer and comitted the worst forms of atrocities in the name of Jesus.
I also guess that you have never heard of the inquisitions and the horrors that church men comitted in the name of God.
And you have never heard of the 300yrs secterian wars in medieval Europe.

Gosh!
I wonder what garbage they are teaching you kids in school these days.

Pls shut up and stop showcasing your stark ignorance.

You are a big fool and the ignorant one here. When you lose necessary brain cells what every one expects next from you is to shut the hole on your face!! What makes an atheist are dogmas built on pure lies and wilful ignorance to rebel against God.

Now the question is what makes one a Christian?? You are so dumb and lost that any one with a Christian label is a Christian. The God you try cursing every day knows those that are His: 2Tim 2:19

and look what He said about those playing Christian: Matthew 7:23 :
"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew
you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE
LAWLESSNESS."

You want to tell me shi.t about Christians, rely on that holy and true book. NO Christian kills/killed any one in the name of God! Don't throw atrocities committed by cults and lawless men in the name of whatever god they are serving at us!

Intelligent men do not think like you! go ahead and fool others with that garbage you call education...and watch us don't give a flying fuc.k!

Frogshi.t!!!!

DProDG:
And this is coming from a Christian...

I only have my bible and i know the author!

You rely on dead white men's knowledge to refute truth! you are a joke!

go ahead and accuse us of slaving up to them...when you know nothing! Open the bible and tell me if men can come up with such wisdom!!?

Joker!! you guys are becoming so damn predictable and boring! step up your game! you need more books! common!

Anas09:
My view. Its pointless discussing these issues with Atheist, because no more matter how glaring the truth is, they willingly close their eyes to it.

Spot on. If this was not so glaring, the bible wouldn't call them fools.

I looked up the meaning of a fool. I came up with this: A person who lacks sound judgement and is of little intelligence. A jester. A joker.

When people cannot use their brain to decipher simple things, we call them fools, slow pokes not to insult them but to describe them perfectly. There are no good words for them.

We don't need loads of confused books to tell us there is God. We simply know that there is God just as we know there is air. The whole world from the very beginning have always known that there is God and lived their lives conscious of God. The onus lies on this people to prove to us that He does not exist. And we have all seen how stupid they sound each time they try to say something. Jokers.

Anas09:
Its even worst when u quote from the scriptures. Never-the-less I will.
The Bible in Romans 1:19-22
Because that which may be known of God is clearly seen in them, for God had shown it unto them. 20m for the invisible things of him from creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. 21. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, niether were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish hearts was darkened.22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

This is the point! the whole point! what atheists have refused to see. They want us to consider their opinions of how God should have revealed himself. Jokers! God has given them expo. You want to know if i exist? look at what i made! look at this intelligence? Who attributes an intelligent work to mere accident!!? Nobody including atheists! hahahahahhahaha A man sees a pot on the stove...cooking. And he says maybe it got on the stove by chance...probably the fire lit by itself. What a joke! What nonsense!

Anas09:
Reading through your thoughts, I wonder how, a human being will tell me that, moral laws which defines good and evil doesn't come from a law giver. So where and how did man came up with the concept of right and wrong?

hahahaha Guess what people? atheists have no fuc.king reasonable answer to this. They will end up stupid! One said, morality is a human concept, another says it is inherent but went on to contradict himself immediately! Joker! . IF THERE IS A LAW THEN THERE IS A GIVER. IF WE CAME BY ACCIDENT, OUR JUDGEMENT SYS/CONSCIENCE CANNOT BE RELIED UPON!

Anas09:
Try as you may to refute the existence of a higher and a supreme being which everything revolves around. You will endup being foolish.
Am not a scientist and I can say very little in that field. But Most of the time, I sit and ponder. How does Bones form in a baby in the womb, starting with a blood clot. Am yet to listen to a scientist analyse sleep. No matter how great and powerful (strength wise) a man is, when asleep. A 5yr old can just end ur life. What about death? My brothers in humanity explain the concept of death to me. Why hasn't science come up with an antidote for death yet? Why can't we stop the process of aging, why can't science tell us what to do to stay alive and young as long as we live?
The Spirit expressly says, in latter days many shall depart from the truth, giving heed to lies and doctrines of the devil. they shall become lovers of themselves and haters of God.
A carnal man can not receive the things of the spirit; for they are foolishness unto him, that's because they are spiritually dis cerned.
This is my stand and makes a lot of sense to me. Man is created by God. Irrespective of our race, creed and preferences. In man God placed a conscience, an inherent trait that enables us know the right or the wrong thing. That is Conscience, the Spiritual-link to and with God. The Bible says, the Spirit of a man is a candle of the Lord, through it He searches the inward parts of a man. The Holy spirit at redemption awakens the Conscienc (spirit) in a man. No man is capable of placing Conscience in him/her. Because man naturally tiels towards badness. Any good or upright person fights to stay upright. Conscince convicts us when we do wrong. But no one fights to do evil because there's a nature of evil in man already.
Shalom.

GBAM THAT IS THE EFFING TRUTH RIGHT THERE.

johnydon22:
Ok then good... How come Yahweh (God) your supposed moral giver, gave that law "brides should be killed if found not to be virgin" how come you don't think its moral when your supposed moral giver gave it??

How naughty can y'all be.

Hi!

*Who is the giver and the taker of life? GOD When death calls, we say God has taken what He gave. Can He not take it at any point in our lives??

*Who ordered for their killing? God or man? God! No man can decide on his own to kill another. If he does, we wonder if He is trying to play God! I should not harm any one cos i do not have any moral or spiritual grounds to do but God is not under any Law and Has every right and power to order that lives be taken

*Before you label God as merciless...well you already have but you know what? He is not. God did not punish men for nothing. They were first of all found guilty... Though a longsuffering and merciful God, He still had to be just! If you think men are innocent victims...then you need to go back and read up all the old testament killings to see what warranted those killings!

*Trying to make God look bad does not stop Him from existing! When did things become non existent because we don't agree with them?

*We are in the new testament now. The old testament( the shadow of things to come) is gone. You are in this dispensation. Why judge God or my religion based on the past you claim does not exist??

Have you seen any Christian killing anyone in the name of God? Why turn a blind eye to what you can see and focus on what you cant see to discredit Christianity... our books are fairy tales? why open them? are they not foolish to you?. SMH.

johnydon22:
Uuuhm i think i have a second question too... Which moral law are you talking about?

Silly question. Please go and crash

johnydon22:
Uuuuuhm have actually being reading the funny arguments, emotionally ladened and funny analogies tho but... Please i have only one question and i will go to bed.. feeling sleepy already

[size=20] Is it morally right to kill a bride found not to be a virgin? [/size]

It is not spiritually or morally right. My ans with conscience. Good night.

plaetton:
Wow! I am speechless.
Lol is the word.

Lol is the word to dodge questions they can't handle. LMAO!

plaetton:
Lol.
Nice of you to admit that your imaginary moral law giver is schizophrenic.
Now, what kind of MORAL laws should Anyone expect from a bible-certified schizophrenic.?
Seriously.

There is a MORAL LAW. If you cannot tell us how it came out about, then shut it! You have no point!

You see Him as a psycho, we see Him as the All MIGTHY GOD. I wouldn't worship HIM if He fell short of these! Is there something wrong with the way i see things? why should it be wrong and yours be right? SMH

plaetton:
Point out one truth or fact presented in your post. Throwing words about, making incoherent patch patch sentences does not a sensible argument make.

And why shouldn't I be bitter when people like make two senseless and contradictory statements in one post
First you Say we are born with inbuilt conscience that tells us right and wrong, then in the same breath, you say that same conscience is a consentual agreed upon thing.
Wtf?
How can conscience be based on consentual issues, and then be inbuilt into each individual as well?
If conscience is inbuilt, then it not be consentual. It would same and automatic with every individual, in every culture, and in every era.

Do you see how you confuse yourself with meaningless crap?

What makes a sensible argument? copying and pasting your slave masters' works? or regurgitating what they have said? What you saw in my post is the fact, how else do you want it?

My choice of words may be wrong... but my points are clear enough. We all agree to the glaring fact that good or evil are not for a man to determine but to observe cos they are inherent in us.

Simple!

[quote author=keenn post=34191807][/quote]Lol, you dont know God then. You must be one of those jolly jolly Christians. You need to know the God that you are serving o!

Take this,

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

Look at the f close to my monicker

Don't be ashamed to name names. Those heretical idio.tic mongrels need lots of exposing. They have rubbished Christianity and attracted blasphemy from worldlings.

They've chased us away...well for good. Staying away from mainstream churches is extremely safe for any Christian.

The day i said good riddance... no one told me i did the right thing.

Daseed4:
@An2elect2, Adversities are your best teachers. There are so many things about my travails that I didn't mention in this thread. Because if I say some of them, some nairalanders will know it's me. I have a popular moniker with my real picture. I creatd this for the purpose of this thread. Age should speak!

Common. You said you are a child of light. What then are you hiding? Is this not supposed to be very crucial? i mean this is supposed to be your life right? Why then make your identity obscure? You are not serious!

I still maintain my initial stance that you are lying! prove me wrong if you care.

plaetton:
Pure and unlemished Bullshyte.
I see no sensible argument here.

You see no sensible argument, not because it is not there but because you are blind, ignorant and bitter. Seeing nothing sensible in truth is the only way you can breathe.

Anas09:
1). Is Morality an abstraction?
2). How do you define good and evil?

Good is acting right according to our consciences towards God and man. And evil is simply the lack or privation of good. Good can exist on its own without evil, but evil cannot.

We are all born with an inbuilt morality system aka conscience. It is not a subjective system where everyone chooses to do what he/she thinks is right. This is a consensual fact observed and agreed by all.(modified ) Why do we all think killing someone is wrong? why do some not see it as right?

Anas09:
3). What are their purposes?

Good and evil are realities but do not have purposes of their own. The Creator's purpose for creating all things is first of all for His glory. He made for Himself... Good and evil serve this...His course.

God could have easily allowed only good to be, but He purposed evil too and is not ashamed to say it.. For the same one who created the healthy made they sick/deformed, He made light and darkness too, He made beautiful and ugly too, He made the rich and the poor also. All these are His handiworks and they all point back to Him.

Atheists say there is evil hence there is no God. A higher intelligence says, because there is evil there must be good...there must be a good one up there! If i have a sore on my leg. The sore does not cancel the fact that i have a leg... not just a leg but my leg can be good(again)...free of sore.

Anas09:
4). We different colours by seeing them, how do we defferentiate good and evil?

Our conscience. They have already been made distinct in our consciences. Kind of a program. We just know... it may not be at the same degree..but it is there.

Anas09:
6). If we say there's such thing as good and evil, there must need be that there are moral laws. And if there are moral laws, then there must be a moral law GIVER, because without a moral law GIVER, we cannot differentiate between good and evil.
NOW, do we need moral laws?
What is the value of these moral laws without a moral law giver to set standards and bring us to accountability?

There is a MORAL GIVER. That is the answer. And He defined what moral laws are and has put them in every man. This is evidenced by our everyday life experiences. Man is not the originator or determiner of morality. It is not a human concept but a God concept. Man is bound to these laws.

Wow Op, your analogy is spot on...sensible and simple. I don't need a scattered brain loser who thinks his existence was an accident explain real life complexities for me.

This (op) sounds more like an atheist or satanist trying to discredit Christianity by coming up with some mumbo jumbo tale.

Hey!

*You have not experienced the new birth in Christ, this is very obvious in your post.

*That "church" you described is not a Christian church...why say or rather imply you are still hanging on? Waiting for?

*Okay, doctrines apart, Why didn't you consider other "churches" ? are you so dumb??who you fooling??

*And for this flimsy and moronic reasons, you should consider atheism? like seriously? you think everyone is dumb

*Try harder next time


LIES!!!

So what is the poooop trying to say!

cosiocan:
An2elect2 I like your understanding of the Lord Jesus. I pray that God may preserve you unto the Love of God in Christ Jesus and that you do not fall away after the error of ungodly.

Amen! That's the best prayer anyone can pray for me!

Why.

Colossians 3:5

Mortify (put to death) therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is
idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all
these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the
new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond
nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing
one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond
of perfectness. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom;
teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the
name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

humbled by defeat. Yea..sounds more like

Blackchampion:
The Hero of Nigeria's Democracy
#Farewell Sir

Your hero got served. He should step up his game.
I believe he should be respected as a good sportsman for painfully conceding defeat but hero? of democracy? plsssss Nigerians are the real heroes of Nigeria's democracy

Am just glad you love your wife

iyatrustee:
Fake smiles everywhere!

Lol you noticed

johnydon22:
John 14:26 New International Version But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
Uuuhm never knew Jesus was referring to himself here

John 14:17-18 King James Version (KJV)

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
You know now...

Goshen360:
Yes, we\I don't frequent here like that since many things went wrong in this section but I'm very sure we peep into topics from time to time. I, personally I'm very busy now with work and preparation for home coming next month and might start an invitation thread later next week or two to see how we can come together outside of this forum.

When you fall, you learn and make corrections and move on. Off course you can't fall out of his love because God's love is greater than you yourself. There're consequences for our mistakes or when we miss the mark but you're still His beloved, you're still righteous. In all, a child is not meant to be a child forever to to grow and mature. It will happen with time!

Okay! Thank you! God's grace in your work and preparation for home coming

This section is in a mess... its just annoying most times! I think with you lots here, light will shine greatly...once more...maybe for the last time

A get together outside here!!!? OKAY!! Thank you once more. Good night.

This may be true oooo....but wait o, how do they know the skull is Goliath's. Dem write am on top the skull? Hin skull never turn to sand finish since how many years before Christ? Hian. Even the stone of David! He signed on it or something?

Of course there was a Goliath...but this strange discovery is simply debatable and unprofitable to believers.