asuustrike2009:

The Bible condemns it. You're not to judge your prophet even if he's right or wrong. The story of Moses and Miram comes to mind.

asuustrike2009:

Even if he's as alleged you're not to judge.

MasViews:
I almost believe you but after checking the name of your source i changed my mind

asuustrike2009:

It's not staged.I have seen worst scenario in different places of worship

Hier:


I think we have both talked about this subject of grace on many occasions, the question is, should I do it again in other to prove a point I have tried to prove overtime.

If I believe, [faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God] and I confess haven believed and I call, i shall be saved.

who is grace? Jesus

what did I believe in? that Jesus died for my sin that i might have life more abundantly.

If I do not believe, I would not confess.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

only those who believe are saved

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

I think this understanding would get anyone saved compare to teaching grace, but lemme ask, define grace according to the Bible, as your often emphasis on Eph2:8, but like I would always say. Grace is Jesus Christ and like I will also say also, like scriptures says in 2 Corinth 13:1. in the mouth of two or three witness shall every word be established. I think two or three verses would be good in your explanation of what grace is.

Well, I will disagree with you if you say grace is what we don't deserve, by the way, what's your definition for salvation. Do you mean total salvation when the person is very perfect or salvation as in at the point of repentance if you believe in that.

I think this would be the last time we would be having this conversation.

I would show you links where we have had talks as this before

Bolaji21:

You forgot to state your source. Cos if you don't have a valid source, then you're wrong.

Hier:


I was saved according to this verses

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

If you disagree, point me wrong

I mentioned that in the 10 paragraph which started with back to the topic

Suspect33:
only people who dont know God defend the things you just mentioned, the bible is clear on the issue, if you are a friend of the world, you are an enemy of God, God will not change his standards, is'nt it suprising that most of our deeper life sister who dont adorn themselves with worldly apparels (necklace, attachment, ear-ring, trouser, make-up, fake nails) are more beautiful and godly to their counter-parts who use these things??

Didov1:
...yh.people called paul n is brothers{brothers in christ}christians in antioch ......first...what do u mean by d word CHRISTIAN..to my own understanding..it means a follower of christ,someone who is christlike.........nice writeup op..

Thanks for stopping by

otitokoroleti:
here comes the thread to discredit Christian &, Christianity, well done Seun Osewa but believe me, atheist are just wasting their time.

If you were truly a Christian, you would appreciate a thread like this

paxonel:

We are not serious people.
You know that saying that during the trans-sahara slave trade Africans were trading their brothers and sisters to white people in exchange for mirror because they have never seen their faces before?
That is what we are still doing today.
This time we are trading our senses in exchange for self actualization and justification for believing in pastors and church.
It's a pity

paxonel:

If you had actually followed the word of God precept by precept you won't be talking like this.
Jesus Christ criticized the Pharisees yes or no?
Was that negative talk?
What is wrong is wrong let's call a spade a spade, leave religious or church sentiment aside.
If the number of people in these churches are growing obviously, non of them have never sit down to read their bible precept by precept.
It shows that we are still lagging behind in terms of access to quality education as a nation.
Travel abroad and see how they practice their Christianity you will know that it is not what we do here

babyfaceafrica:
Coming from a man of God.. Am disappointed

petra1:


Let's humble ourselves bro. Admit your wrong na. You wrongly accused 2 ministers without evidence and proof . I gave you opportunity and benefit to back your claim . NONE . That's my point . Don't judge men of God by hear say . Don't even judge . Because you only see from your perspective . Focus on your call if you have any. Reach out to sinners rather

MuttleyLaff:
When an agbalagba agbalagbi is called poor child, by an age mate or younger person, that isn't pitying.

If Petra1 isn't older than you, then you both are probably age mates, so whichever case, it's hard to be convinced that, when you laughingly called him a poor child you were pitying him

chynie:

No u got it wrong ,sorry but
U can get original cos of the time u were born, Paul, Peter etc can't pass it down to u or your pastor or me cos we were born when they were died.
But ppl met Peter, Paul and others alive, and it got passed to them, the cycle continues until it to us.
I hope u understand now

So the Bible isn't in its original form anymore. Oh I got it! Paul, Peter preached about making images, Mary and praying to dead saints but someone along the line erased those stuffs and left only stuffs about Jesus. So remind me the name of the Pope that ordered for such a cretin's head?

chynie:

Are they the only early christians u know
While there are Christians after them before us.
And nobody prays through Mary.

aahh but they were the ones who received the gospel directly from the master, should we "jump and pass" them? Who no like original? Abeg yarn another thing jare

chynie:

I laugh u in latin
1, bible was compiled by the early Christians who laid the Catholic foundation
2, same catholics brought the Bible to u and i
3, they contributed more to education which means more access to Bible
4, the Bible is the truth but other books contains truth also
Your other points are personal views and sounds silly.
The Catholic Church just like other churches has doctrines but the obsession with Catholic Church is amazing. Yet you ppl that critize the church wouldnt mind being naked and eating grass cos pastors ask you to do so and you will claim you are on the right track. Peace

Chynie did you say the early Christians laid the Catholic foundation? Early Christians like Paul, Peter, John, James, etc laid the Catholic foundation of praying through Mary, And worshipping God through idols? Or are you just high on apostasy!

petra1:


It's very obvious you have no point to prove . Have a nice day any way .




Generalization is your escape from scrutiny now. I thought the holy ghost you will stand to defend your action .against the duo.

petra1:


I'm not really so surprised . You know that's what you people do here . Insult and name call without facts . A spiritual man must judge righteously .

Deuteronomy 1:16
16 And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

John 7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Where did you read about pastor Chris and Tv Joshua making political utterances ? Etc

Firstly Did you hear him preach what you accuse him of here . Because I haven't .

Secondly are you saying there are no consequences for sin? And sin can't lead to damnation ?

MuttleyLaff:


Ahha, kilode?
You laughably referred a complete and full grown man, husband and daddy, body of Christ elder, a poor child?
Respect is a two way street