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Dnaz:
Jesus too is the seed of Adam

Lolzzzzz. In trying to give Mary Divinity, you commit blunders. Jesus is not the Seed of Adam, if he were, he would have the original sin.

Abeh nah, stop this scriptures summersaults.

Jesusgirl92:
It's my birthday people show me love

When was this? Am i late for the geek? Oh dear. Where is my cake?

Happy Buffday darling sister.

May the Lord of Host keep you safe until his return.

smoy:
learn what? if its a compilation of books by dig and harry then stop telling us that its from God since the people God send did not contributed in the compilation of these books neither instructed any body to do that.

I am not sure you listen to yourself as you speak. Pls do not talk for the sake of talking. Stop and reason because your words represents you.

Post here any koranic verse which was a direct voice of allah or muhammed. They are a thousand voices of men and women reporting what allah or muhammed said.

But we hear YHWH and Jesus speaking directly. Which book will you say came from God?


You, a muslim claims that the Jewish Patriarchs were Musilms, and that allah gave them the Bible, but here you are calling them Tom, Dick and, Harry.

The people wrote the koran claiming it was muhammed, yet not even muslims can understand the koran without the Hadiths. But, Different men at different times wrote the Bible, yet the central message is still unified.

Prophets, priests, Shepherds, Kings Judges, and lay men wrote the Bible, yet the koran which claims to be written by one man is still running behind trying to catch up.

Boy, stop being hyperactive, it's exposing too much of your ignorance.

Gggg102:
This is what I saw from your suggestion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_that_I_Am

What did you glean from Wiki?

Remember we were talking about the PERSONAL NAMES OF gods, but you came up asking for the meaning of YHWH. And, Wiki just explained to you exactly what i told you.

His personal name is YHWH.

The meaning is 'I AM'.

MEANING HE IS EVERYTHING, AND CAN BE ANYTHING.

hopefulLandlord:
truth is never stale

So the truth is God does not exist abi?

Dnaz:
No everything is in context
How did God prepare a body for Jesus?

In a bit to give Mary divinity, you just missused the Scriptures.

It didn't say, a body you have prepared for us. He said 'a body you have prepared for ME'.

The question shd be, what does that mean? What body is Christ talking about? Why did He need a body to be prepared for Him?

Jesus was a Spirit, in all of the Old Testament, he was there (Altho he wasnt called Jesus), but when it was time for Him to come down here, when he needed to come into the realm of the flesh for an assignment, then YHWH prepared Him a body just like every other body, a house for the spirit.

The reason Jesus needed our kind of body is so that He can have blood to shed. Again, He needed to live on earth going through all the temptation man undergoes and overcomes, so that man won't accuse God of demanding from Man the impossible.

Mary didn't need a body to be prepared for her, because she had a body already.

So, pls when you quote Scriptures know that scriptures have rhema.

So you broke it by trying to make that scripture mean what you want.

1Sharon:
I am that I am is not a name either, don't you get smug.

Listen sis. I didn't say ' I AM is a name, i said it is the meaning of YHWH.
We were talking about the personal names of gods, not their meaning when he came up asking for the MEANING OF YHWH.

The name is YHWH

The meaning is 'I AM THAT I AM.

When Moses asked YHWH who are you, 'what shd i tell my people that you are'? YHWH gave him that response.

The reason Moses asked this question was, in Egypt where he lived, there were so many gods and those gods had their personal names and their portfolios distinguished them, hence; he asked God, what do i call you?

He told Moses his portfolio. What he does. (meaning)

It was later He told Moses His name, YHWH.

juanomowa:
Uhh the same thing I am talking about, its their culture or doctrine, sure, he does it, but not after their hypocrisy! crack! I tire for una o

But you made it seem like Jesus was outrightly opposed to everything YHWH did with the stock of Israel.

Remember he came to fulfill that Law?

juanomowa:
Read again, the answer is there.

I have read it. You said Jesus is not a Jew. How is He not a Jew?

Gggg102:
When moses asked God for the name to tell the Israelites. God said "I am who I am".

Moses: who are you
God: I am myself

Is this your valid explanation?

Let me help you. Go into the Etymology of that term 'I AM' and get the meaning, then come lets talk. I won't do it for you.

Don't start what you can't finish o.

livebullet:
I hope they consult catholic theologians... Lest they unwrite and undo the word already established... Same way the JW have misconstrued and misinterpreted John 1:1

You don hear say Pope want modify the Lord's prayer? You don also hear say, Pope want include Homosexuality as an acceptable practices inside Bible?

Thunda faya satan

hopefulLandlord:
The bible is all lies. Its a fantasy created for control, to impoverish the masses and keep them humble. No longer are chains and whips required, we can control people thru a promise in a book . The government loves evangelistic preaching . It subdues masses, keeps them paying taxes, makes them docile, humble meek low self esteem folks just waiting till death for some promises they will never get. Provisions, prayer requests, blessings for behavior, recompence for offerings and tithes, fruitful accomplished life , all this and more ....you gotta believe !! Faith and the promise of hope.... I hope none of you actually believed it and wasted your life doing as the bible says! That would be a waste of life

Stale. Trunk another line nah.

donstan18:
Believe me, When he said that, one man that haven't eaten since morning shouted Alleluya!!!

That one man is either fasting or a lazy man.

And YHWH says, everyman MUST work and earn a living for themselves and also help others. He also said, a Lazy man shouldn't be given food.

So, be lazy and wait for pastors to feed you, when you meet God you shall explain yourself.

paparazzi1987:
business as usual.

E pain you.

CAPSLOCKED:
#freethesheeple

We are not crying the way you are. Why does this concern you so much.
***ProudlySheeple***

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#freethesheeple

We are not crying the way you are. Why does this concern you so much.
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Gggg102:
I was going to say I AM is not a personal name

Go ahead, with valid points of course.

Gggg102:
I'm not a Muslim.
I only asked for the meaning of YHWH Do you know the meaning?

Why is that important? Anyways, it means 'I AM'.

Demmzy15:
It's not an instruction, it's bound to happen. The Jews quote their Holy Books while killing Muslims, so why shouldn't I do the same when there's going to be a legitimate war against them?

Fact remains Christians have killed more Jews than anyone in the world!



Ok



Why did you Christians kill and butcher them like animals?



I need not to tell you that!



OOF point, if you have something reasonable to post, Holla me!

Jews quote the Bible while killing Muslims where? Chai, Demzy, you can lie oo. without small shame sef.

Why not post where the Torah commanded them to kill Muslims. You have no idea what you muslims are walking into. No one touches the Jews and goes free. YHWH shall judhee allah like He judged the gods of Egypt.

I will take you serious if you give me a Scripture that enjoined Christians to kill the Jews.

Demmzy15:
How does this even make sense? Why would a Muslim pretend to be a Christian, it's the other way around!

Now this is serious fanaticism, the Jews you slap and beat yourself over hate Jesus and his mother. I wouldn't want to post some of their words here!

Altigyya is why a muslim can pretend to be a Christian to lie and promote islam.

Why won't you post some of those words, and wait for me to post the prophecies which says everything that happened to Him will happen?

Gggg102:
I'll be waiting.

Why not tell us allahs personal name?

Gggg102:
What's the meaning of YHWH

It is the personal name of the God of the Jews.

We are not about the meaning of the names, but the personal names.

'God' is not a personal name of any deity. Every Deity has his name. God is a title, like teacher, king, chief. But all the teachers, kings and chiefs have their names.

and allah means god, the question is, what is his personal name.
Pls don't try to shift the post. I will hold you down here.

Maybe when we are done with the names, we can go on to their meanings, but lets deal with names for now.

Demmzy15:
Lol, Christians have been the ones killing and persecuting Jews throughout the century. In fact some Jewish scholars consider the first holocaust to be perpetuated by Christians when they conquered Jerusalem in the 11th century. They killed thousands of Muslims and Jews, these are facts. On the other hand, Muslims have protected them.

Typical of you to shift the goalpost. This is not about Christians Persecuting the Jews. It's about Musims receiving instructions from allah to kill the Jews. If it's the same case, you can begin by posting Scriptures which Jesus said we shd kill the Jews while we post the koranic verses to that effect.

When will you stop deceiving yourself Demzy? You allah is false, but you can't admit it.

Demmzy15:
Unfortunately, it's exactly what you Christians do!

Is it possible for you to say the truth for once?

Demmzy15:
You exaggerate too much, Christians are around 2.5 billion. And show me where I stated all Christians hate Zionists, I never said such. Trump, Pence, Hillary are all Zionist Christians, read my posts well because posting. There are many Christians who are against this, some are Arabs others are Europeans.

Pls, were they Zionists when allah ordered you Muslims to perpetually hate and kill the Jews?

What have this so called Zionists done to you Muslims?

Demmzy15:
Google is your friend my friend!

[/quote]You mean the same google you refuse to see what it states about you?

Demmzy15:
I'll fight them for what they've done to the Muslims of Palestine, don't get me wrong there are thousands of Jews who are against this treatment, so I'm not against them. But the Zionists, I'm fully against them



Lol, as you can see, I've given you an example. There Christians who have stabbed and even hijacked planes because of the atrocities of Israel. Go and read before spouting rubbish, Jews are not chosen people. The greatest people in the sight of Allaah are those who have piety and fear with respect to him not child killers!

Demzy, when allah wrote in the koran that you fight and kill the Jews, was there a Palestine people? and had the Jews taken anything from the Muslims?

At what point did Arabs spread their territory to the so called Palestine?

fellowman:
Uthman burned many Qur'ans (I wonder why this doesn't create many riots). Each of the Qur'ans burned were slightly different than his official version. Uthman, not wanting different opinions, then burn all versions he consider "false".

The thing is, how does he know that the version he burned is the false one and the one he keep is the correct one?

This means that drastic changes occurred. After all, "Why were the other copies and fragments ordered to be burnt? " The answer is found in the original statement: "Hudhaifa was afraid of the different recitations of the Qur'an "
Hudhaifa did not want different versions of the Qur'an.

Since all other copies of the Qur’an were ordered to be burned, what was wrong with them? Is the Qur’an pure as believed by modern day Muslims? Since the decision to burn all other Qur’ans was politically motivated, the Qur’an of today reflects the political whims of early Muslim political leaders, not the prophet Muhammad. Questions like this will never be answered. But it is certain that the Qur’an of today is not the original Qur’an recorded only 2 years after Muhammad died.

Good point.

smoy:
exactly, Islam is the only religion for all the prophets.

quran and bible cant be compared at all because the pure words of God is different from that of combination of man mad historian record of events, and for the bible, it suppose to be a book from God but unfortunately is not because the book that God gave Moses and the God gave Jesus are no where to be fund today only what we have is gospel according to Matthew, according to Mark, according to Paul, the question is where is the gospel according to Jesus.

lolzzzzz. The Bible is not a book like the koran, the Bible is a compilation of books. Will these people ever learn?

Demmzy15:
Muslims hate Jews you say? We hate Zionists, we have Jews that hate Zionists, Christians hate Zionists also. Those you mentioned above are Muslims!

You mean Muslims who pretend to be Christians hate Zionists? Wow. I love Zionism. I love the Jews to dead. I'd rather i died in the hands of a Jew who hates me because am a Christian, than die in the hands of a muslim. Tufiakwa

shadeyinka:
And being Jewish has nothing to do with religion.
As you rightly said, they were all Jews by tribe.
But,
1. If you look closely, you will discover that there is one fundermental difference between Jehovah the God of the Jews and Allah of Prophet Mohammed. And the difference is that while Jehovah loves the Jews with an everlasting love, Allah seems to hate the Jews with a passion. In fact, Allah seems to treat the Jews as strangers. I can give you references if you want.
2. There is one consistent ordinance in the religion of the Jews and even Christians that is absent in Islam: and that is Sacrifice of Blood for Atonement.

3. Since you said that Mohammed came to perfect the Monotheism of the Jews, in what ways? What was wrong with the monotheism of the Jewish religion


Were they really given books? And how?
For you Muslims don't ask questions.

David wrote part and also commissioned the Priests in the temple to write the Psalms (Zabura) . Psalms were songs of Praise and Worship used in the temple of God by the Jews. When David commited adultery, and was judged by God, he wrote a psalm of restoration (do not take your Holy Spirit from me..restore to me the joy of my salvation). So, it seems only Muslims do not know how the psalms (songs) came about but just with a fiat say David was given a book.

Moses wrote a chunk of the Pentateuch (Five Books) Genesis to Deuteronomy. He and the Levite Priests wrote a chronicle of Gods dealings with them and their experiences with Him. So, how was Moses given a book.

Jesus didn't even write a word of text even though He was literate. The Gospel is not a book it is a message of "Good News". The Goodnews that God has made a way of salvation for man as a free gift. A GoodNews that we can now have a new relationship as "Sons of God" with the Father. Jesus didn't come to establish a religion, He came to establish a relationship.


Actually, Mohammed put together the religion of Islam by taking what he feels convenient in Judaism and Christianity and mergon it with Arab cultures. I can give you evidences if you want.

You have made a claim promoted by the Muslims when they discovered gross contradictions between the Quran and the Bible.

Let's logically examine the fallacies in your statement.
There are questions to be asked in order to validate your statement
1. When did the original change
2. Who did the changing
3. What benefit did he gain from the altrations
4. Where was it changed
5. Where are the original copies
6. What are the adultrations

If someone was to tell you that the Books of William Shakespeare are fake, would you accept it without question? The only way one can validate an insinuation such as this is to ask the relevant question.

Even, Allah did not insinuate that anywhere in the Quran. Why should Allah be quiet over a fundermental issue such as this.

As I said earlier, the major weakness of Muslims is that they don't ask questions.




And Muhammad is no more than a messenger; the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? Qur'an, 3:144

This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion. Qur'an, 5:3

I do have some sketchy points with my religion like the status of a woman in the religion but Islam still stands out amongst all.
Have you ever wondered why Mohammed was not accepted by the Jews to be a prophet?
He didn't have any mark/sign of a prophet.
Mohammed and his Allah decided to convert the Jews to Islam by FORCE (Convert to Islam (submit) or Pay the heavy Jizya).

Interestingly, this leads us exactly from where we started from. If the religions of the Jewish prophets was Islam, it means that Judaism is actually Islam. Then, why must a Jew convert from the Jewish Islam to Mohammed's Islam.

Since Muslims don't ask questions let me conclude by asking:
If Adam was a Prophet, who was he sent to? His children?

You just pursue this guy commot from here o.