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petra1:
Nice question. Besides God gave room for money to be given in place of unacceptable things . Also people still have option for cash

Most of them are confused. Their problem is they think that when they give their money it it to pastors they give. Some would prefer to give crops so that the pastor won't have use for it. Some say Tithe is suppose to be shared amongst church members. Everybody is now a pastor.

feelgoodInc:
Hebrews 13:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

King James Version (KJV)

so where is the tithe there stop quoting half truths to suit your narrative, have you seen how hard it is to defend tithing.

It is not hard for me to defend Tithing.

Why do you think i need to defend Tithing? It's my money, why shd i defend it?

feelgoodInc:
analize701 you keep talking about Melchizedek and Jacob giving tithe, is there anywhere God commanded Abraham to pay tithe?

The question you shd have asked is, Who was Melchizedek?

asuustrike2009:
He just started with tithe very soon he will move to another level. The anti Christ will use people from within to operate

Very correct my brother. You'll be surprised how many people will join Daddy Freeze Church when he opens one very soon.

To an ignorant unlooker, Freeze is working for God. lol. An agent of satan doing his master's work.

Time shall tell.

kmcutez:
If we sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? If others share the right over you, do we not more? Nevertheless, we did not use this right, but we endure all things so that we will cause no hindrance to the gospel of Christ.”

How does that relate to Tithes?

Paul's pattern when receiving gifts at all was to receive them from established churches to further a work in an un-established church.

In other words, he received the offerings for the missions?

nicemuyoo:
From the defination of tithe of you read your bible very well tithe are agricultural produce specifically from land of Isreal. They are not wages as in money paid workers. Even the scribes and Pharisees only tithe agricultural produce. Fish produce is not acceptable as tithe.

Is the bone of contention here Tithe Paying or the token? If i pay Tithe with Yams will i be doing the right thing?

feelgoodInc:
but why, Jesus did not collect any tithe, why is he taking tithe now.
so ARE YOU PAYING TITHE TO GOD

Jesus did not take Tithe when he was alive because He was not High Priest until he died.

But as Head of the Church now, He does.

Yes i am paying Tithe to Christ. Hebrew 13:15 says Lets us now continually offer our sacrifices to God through Jesus our eternal High Priest.

In the Old Covenant, sacrifices were offered to God through his earthly human priests.

feelgoodInc:
but why, Jesus did not collect any tithe, why is he taking tithe now.
so ARE YOU PAYING TITHE TO GOD?

secondly Levite I, not one person Levites were descendants of Levi, they had no possessions, they were well known you could see them on the streets and give them your tithes, their main jobs were to work in the temple and I'm sure not all the descendants work on the temple.

The question is, or should be, at what point did Jesus assume the office of the High Priest?

While he was alive, was he a high Priest?

What did YHWH through His Prophet Jeremiah said the Priesthood of Jesus will be like?

Did he say his Priesthood will be like the Levitical Priesthood?

Let's see... Pls be patient and read ok?

Good News Translation Hebrews 7:15-16
The matter becomes even plainer; a different priest has appeared, who is like Melchizedek.

He was made a priest, not by human rules and regulations, but through the power of a life which has no end.

For the scripture says, “You will be a priest forever, in the priestly order of Melchizedek.”

The old rule, then, is set aside, because it was weak and useless. For the Law of Moses could not make anything perfect. And now a better hope has been provided through which we come near to God.


Hebrews 8:8-13
But God finds fault with his people when he says,

“The days are coming, says the Lord, when I will draw up a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their ancestors on the day I took them by the hand and led them out of Egypt.

They were not faithful to the covenant I made with them, and so I paid no attention to them.

Now, this is the covenant that I will make with the people of Israel in the days to come, says the Lord:

I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts.

I will be their God, and they will be my people. None of them will have to teach their friends or tell their neighbors, ‘Know the Lord.’

For they will all know me, from the least to the greatest.

I will forgive their sins and will no longer remember their wrongs.”

By speaking of a new covenant, God has made the first one old; and anything that becomes old and worn out will soon disappear.

Jesus came a High Priest when he died.

And pls believe me, they did, it wasn't mentioned doesn't mean they didn't.

The Traditions were their traditions, aside from the sacrificial laws which came to an end with the emergence of the New Covenant, every other ordinance remained practiced. They was no need for them to be mentioned becos they were not in contention.

Now, lets consider Circumcision for instance.
Like Tithing, Circumcision precedes and transcends the law, but it became contentious when the Jewish teachers misrepresented and misinterpreted it to mean that by doing that, they gain acceptance by God.

Question shd be, what was the motive behind Tithing or Circumcision? The reason God demanded that his people be circumcised was for it to act as a Mark of Obedience. A token of Obedience.

Do you want to be my servant? Then cut off your foreskin, by this you have willingly identified with me, anyone who doesn't, has rejected my rule over him.

In the Old Covenant, (Pls read the Scriptures above), God did his work in the lives of the Jews in the flesh, Now it is in the Spirit.

The Holy Spirit becomes the Mark of identification for the People of God now, no longer a fleshly mark.

But, this doesn't mean the foreskin no longer get cut, but, it does, but, it no longer acts a token or a mark of a relationship.

Tithe paying is an act of Obedience to God.

My dear, about the Church being under attack, am not concerned. Satan has been attacking the Church from inception. The stronger and fiercer the attack, the stronger the Church grows.

Without persecution, the Church dies. The fake Christians feel comfortable in Church if the Church is not being attacked, when we get attacked, the fakes will run out and join the attackers.

Dontt worry, it's a sign of growth.

nicemuyoo:
There is a clear difference between scriptural-historical truth and theological teachings on tithe/ tithing and various other topics. Today i would be mentioning some conclusive statement on tithing based on scriptures and historical facts.
1. Tithe are natural agricultural produce and never money. You 're allow to covert It to money under certain circumstances but you must convert back to acceptable agricultural produce before paying your tithe. If you don't you have to pay a penalty fine on top of your tithe money and once paid it s converted back to food by levies in charge. This was to discourage money tithing.
2. The tithe was a tax system to cater for levites( administrators, judges, teachers etc), widows, orphans, strangers etc. 
3. Only increase from selected natural produces from the land of Isreal are acceptable as tithe .you can not pay tithe on from produce from another land 
4. A carpenter, farm labourer, fisherman etc do not tithe. Disciples, jesus, never paid tithe. Only people with farmland and livestocks paid tithe on their increase.
5. The tithe is never used for anything other than to feed levites, widows, orphans etc.never used for temple/ church building or any other services. It is an abomination. 
6. Temples/ services are run with temple tax a token contribution from each adult. Building is done by voluntary participation and donations.
7. Only a priest/ levites/ tithers/ less privileged eg widows are allowed to enjoy the tithe.
8. Today all who have accepted salvation are priest of the most high , we have one HIGH PRIEST, THE MESSIAH HIMSELF.
9. Tithe was never collected in the early churches. BUT was introduced by roman Catholic church to fund building of huge cathedrals and to pay fat salaries to priest/ bishops. It was Actually imposed on people backed by government law. It was a polished after a public revolt by the people.. It was also abolished in UK after a massive riot. The historic peasant riot.
10. This tithe system was adopted by many countries in Europe to cater for less priviledge in the society hence benefit payments/ food stamps etc. This is completely absent in many African countries today.
Folks know the truth and it would set you free.

Lolzzz, you said your points are conclusive, yet you ran from top to finish without one single Scripture.

Pls show where it says the following people don't Tithe.

[bA carpenter, farm labourer, fisherman etc do not tithe. Disciples, jesus, never paid tithe. Only people with farmland and livestocks paid tithe on their increase.[/b]

RALPHOW:
Malachi 3:10, Deu 22

What do they say? Pls use them to explain your write up.

Most of the things you wrote here are assumptions. Where does it say Tithe is yo be used for the members Welfare? (I for like say dem use for us o) but, the Bible didn't say that.

Do you know who the Levites were, and why God separated them to serve Him full time, without owning any inheritances?

Tithe was for their up keep. Although, they didn't inherit any land or possessions as the other tribes did, they were still men with responsibilities. They had wives, had kids, they had to eat, wear clothes, send their Children to school, live in houses with doors and windows.

God said the Tithe was for them to enable them provide for their families' needs, hence; function well in His Temple. Now, this was in the Old Covenant.

But what happens in the New Covenant With Christ as a High Priest? because Gods servants are no longer called Levites means people no longer serve God full time?

Let's hear from the Holy Spirit through Apst Paul...

Good News Translation 1 Corinthians 9:13

Surely you know that the men who work in the Temple get their food from the Temple and that those who offer the sacrifices on the altar get a share of the sacrifices.

1 Corinthians 9:14

In the same way, the Lord has ordered that those who preach the gospel should get their living from it.

Have you seen that?

The meaning of "That they may be food in my house", is, so that the servants of God won't abandon the work of God to secular work in order to fend for their families.

Anyone who says the Pastors using Tithe for their up keep are committing sin, don't know scriptures.

feelgoodInc:
I understand you, so if the covenant has been shifted, does it mean it's Christians that are supposed to pay tithe not Jews?

Yes. This is the Dispensation of the Church, the Gentile's Age. And, Christ is the Eternal Priest over seeing this New Covenant. Every High Priest must do what the High Priests Do

Melchizedek was a High Priest, He took Tithe. Levi was a High Priest, he took Tithe, why should Jesus our High Priest not take Tithe from us?

Because the covenant under which they operate now is obsolete. The Covenant have been shifted to the eternal Covenant according to the Order of Melchizedek with Jesus Christ as the eternal high priest on top.

RALPHOW:
I need to shout it out because it is killing the body of Christ.

How is it killing the body of Christ?

RALPHOW:
PAPAS & SNR. PASTORS PLEASE DO NOT GO TO HELL BECAUSE OF TITHE
OPEN LETTER TO PAPAS & SNR PASTORS
SPIRITUALITY: I WILL LIKE APPRECIATE OUR PAPAS & SNR PASTORS FOR SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT GOD USED THEM TO BRING TO THE BODY OF CHRIST, TODAY AS CHRISTIAN WE KNOW OUR RIGHTS, GOD BLESS YOU SIRS.
ADMINISTRATIVELY: PAPAS AND SNR. PASTORS YOU HAVE FAILED THE BODY OF CHRIST BECAUSE GOD’S HOUSE HAS BEEN LOOTED BY YOUR INSTRUCTIONS.
TITHE:
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF TITHE: THAT THERE WILL BE FOOD IN GOD’S STORE HOUSE (EVERY CHURCH BRANCH HAS STORE HOUSE)
Malachi 3:10King James Version (KJV)
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it

AS CHRISTIANS ARE WE TO PAY TITHE? YES, CLEARLY STATED IN DEU 22, MALACHI 3:10, AND MATHEW 23:23
WHY WILL PASTOR GO TO HELL BECAUSE OF TITHE?
TITHE IS MEANT FOR CHURCH MEMBER’S WELFARE
TITHES ARE NOT MEANT FOR CHURCH BUILDING OR TO BUY CARS NOT EVEN FOR EVANGELISM BUT MEMBERS’ WELFARE.
PASTOR THAT COLLECT TITHE AND SEND IT TO CHURCH HEADQUARTERS BE IT RCCG, CANANLAND, DEEPER LIFE ETC OR ANY CHURCH HEADQUARTER ARE LOOTING THE CHURCH BRANCH STOREHOUSE.
TITHES ARE MEANT FOR CHURCH BRANCH MEMBER’S WELFARE
IF YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THE TRANSFER OF TITHES TO CHURCH HEADQUARTERS STOP IT AND HEADQUARTER SHOULD STOP REQUESTING FOR OUR TITHES, CHURCH BRANCHES ARE NOT BUSINESS CENTER BUT CHURCH.
OFFERING MAY BE TRANSFERRED TO HEADQUARTERS FOR GENERAL USE BUT NOT OUR TITHES
BABA ADEBOYE PLEASE AND PLEASE CORRECT THIS ABNORMALITY BEFORE YOU GO OTHERWISE YOU ARE GOING NOWHERE. PAPA IF YOU CORRECT THIS IN RCCG, WINNERS, DEEPER LIFE ETC WILL FOLLOW AND OTHER GREAT MEN OF GOD WILL DO SO.
IF THE TITHES ARE AVAILABLE FOR WELFARE, POCERTY WILL BE ERIDICATED IN THE CHURCH, EVANGELISM WILL BE EASY, MEMBERS WILL COME FOR EVANGELISM BECAUSE THERE WILL BE FOOD AFTER EVANGELISM AND MANY SOULS WILL BE SAVED
NOTE: BABA ADEBOYE YOU ARE LEAVING THOUSANDS OF BUSINESS CENTRE BEHIND AND NOT CHURCHES.
EVERY CHURCH MUST HAVE STEPHEN UNIT (AS IN THE DAYS OF APOSTLES) TO MANAGE THE TITHE IN THE WELAFARE PULSE.

WHY WILL BRANCH PASTORS PERSONAL PRAYERS MAY NOT BE ANSWERED?
ANYTIME A CHURCH MEMBER GOES HOME HUNGRY , NAKED OR HOMELESS BECAUSE THE TITHE HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE HEADQUARTER , PASTOR IN THE CHURCH BRANCHES ARE FORCED TO CLOSE THEIR EARS TO THE CRY OF THE POOR BECAUSE THE TITHE THAT SUPPOSED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR WELFARE HAS BEEN TAKING TO THE CHURCH HEADQUARTER (SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN)
PROV 21:13
WHOSO STOPPETH HIS EARS AT THE CRY OF THE POOR, HE ALSO SHALL CRY HIMSELF, BUT SHALL NOT BE HEARD.

WHY ARE CHRISTIANS REVOKING AGAINST TITHE TODAY?
SIMPLE, BECAUSE THE TITHE IS CHANNEL TO WRONG CAUSES, JUST LIKE AFRICA LEADERS CHANNELS THE CITIZEN TAX TO WRONG USE.
THIS IS THE MESSAGE FROM THE THRONE OF GRACE
PLEASE PAPAS AND SNR. PASTORS STOP IT !!!!!!
(HENCEFORTH I WILL BE PAYING MY TITHES TO WELFARE PURSE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IT SUPPOSE TO BE)
BROTHER….

(IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY OPINION PLEASE BACK IT UP WITH SCRIPTURE)

Scriptures pls

MuttleyLaff:
I actually was laughing at how you've personalised the "abeg gererahia" catchphrase
You so often use it, its become the favourite to use among your wave off line.

Lolzzz.

MuttleyLaff:
I have to quickly pop out for a few hours,
so currently not in a position to respond to all those your mentions of me
but trust me, I'll Arnold Schwarzenegger be back, to do robust justices to each one of them, later on today

You'd meet me ready. lol.

MuttleyLaff:
Meanwhile, analize701 and petra1, please respond to the following:
1) How many times was tithe mentioned in Hebrews Chapter Seven?

I have responded to this when you asked the first time. Pls refer back.

MuttleyLaff:
2) Why was tithe, at all, mentioned in Hebrews Chapter Seven?

This is the bone of my Op. I asked you this question, but, instead of you giving me an answer you threw it back at me.

MuttleyLaff:
3) Was tithe the centre of interest, anywhere in the entire Hebrews' letter and/ or in the Hebrews Chapter Seven part of the letter?

I gave answer to this too. I said Paul addressed different issues in Hebrews but chapters 7, 8, 9 &10 talks about Christ, the New Covenant his eternal Priesthood. Chpt 11 talks about Faith, no connection.

MuttleyLaff:
4) You agree that the Epistle to the Hebrews, or Letter to the Hebrews, was written to the Jewish believers who lived in Jerusalem,
don't you?

Yes, Paul was directing this to the Jews trying to make them understand that the Priesthood has been changed from the Levitical (Men who die) to the Melchizedekian (the eternal) and Jesus has become that New High Priest. And that, Since Melchizedek lives forever as an High Priest, Christ has also stepped into that same eternal High Priest position according to the Order of Melchizedek.

Now, here is why Tithe (which had no bizness being mentioned there was mentioned). The only thing mentioned about Melchizedek as his duty was taking Tithe of Abraham as an High Priest, nothing else. meaning, Jesus will do as Melchizedek did, Take Tithes from then henceforth as the eternal high priest.

There's indeed something deeper than we know about Tithing. As am doing this, it's getting clearer to me why i shd be consistent in Paying my Tithe.

Why was Tithe the only thing talked about Melchizedek? And why mentioning him again here when turning over his Priesthood to Jesus, Tithe is mentioned again?

Bros, there's something here that needs more scrutiny.

MuttleyLaff:
5) Why was the Epistle to the Hebrews, or Letter to the Hebrews written to these particular set and peculiar people living in Jerusalem?

because they were still holding tightly to the old Covenant which had become Obsolete. He needed to make them Know that the New has replaced the Old.
And, that the New is better than the Old.

MuttleyLaff:
6) What was the author trying to achieve, with writing to these particular and peculiar people, in detail and at a persuasive long length?

Refer to my answer in 5

MuttleyLaff:
7) Is tithe or tithing mentioned at all,
in of any of the 13 epistles or letters, written by Paul, to believers living in other towns and/or cities?

No Tithe was not mentioned. But there is something that you'd need to bring to the forefront here.

The first time Melchizedek was mentioned, what followed was Tithe, the second time Melchizedek was mentioned what followed was Tithe before going into the Priesthood of Jesus, why?


brother, Paul would have without any stress presented his case by way of pointing the Priesthood of Christ to that of Melchizedek as one, without bringing the issue of Tithing and how it shd be done into the matter.

Conclusion; Hebrew 7:8 explains to the Jews that, their obligations henceforth were no longer to the earthly Levitical Priests who have become obsolete, and now has to be to Christ who lives forever.

He says, Tithe is taken by the living (Priesthood= Christ), no more by the dead and obsolete(priesthood=Levi).

MuttleyLaff:
Had to park and quickly respond to this
It's actually you and the something you are not seeing or deliberately and willingly refusing to see, and until you see it, you will understand why it is only the Jewish believers that letter was written to and not to the other believers living in Jerusalem at the time

Okay, i'm listening, make me understand that Paul was referring only to the Jews living in Jerusalem at the time.

OkaiCorne:
Then show us the Scriptures that is in context that clearly states payment of tithes carries more weight than sacrificial giving na?

You've been shouting Hebrews 7 or Matthew 23 v 23 which others have been countering...so what exactly is your point?

Who are the others who have been countering? Yes, they may counter because they have set off their minds in the direction they want to look.

OkaiCorne:
I have read Hebrews 7 v 8 which states;
In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.

I also read;Hebrew 7 v 17-19

17 For it is declared:

“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”[a]
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless
19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

My dear, if you claim to Love God and Man...which is the basis of the new Covenant...you will see that tithing holds little importance compared to sacrificial giving to the less privileged.

Tithing is important...but check Matthew 25 v 31-40 and tell me if tithing is far more important than the words that came out of the mouth of Jesus that Paul is following as well.

Why did you read the scriptures but left them to talk about something else? Why not explain what the scriptures you read means? Are we here to just read and not explain what they say?

What does Hebrews 7:8 mean, especially in relation to the verses you added? pls explain.

Pls stop derailing yourself here. Nobody had said giving to the less privileged is not important. We not about that here. Lets face what we are here for.

OkaiCorne:
I told you that the Holy Spirit is my mentor and teacher...and you are here judging me that I am the master of my life. It's okay...I can see how people are really attracted to Christianity with this judgmental attitude of yours

A student follows the teachers instructions, not decide what is convenient in the sets of instructions before carrying them out, or choosing what to do and when
to do them. If the Holy Spirit is your Mentor, then you'd be under his tutelage.

OkaiCorne:
It's good to correct...but judging me to be the master of my life is going too far. I hope you know God is taking records of this thing we are doing...and we would be held accountable for every words uttered...

Okay, sorry for coming off as judgmental. If you want to be a servant of Christ, do as he says, not only in the area of giving. Besides, if we don't give or Pay our Tithes, we do hinder us, not God. We get exposed to the devourer which you called FICTITIOUS.

Exactly at the bolded. You have said a lot of things here that if we should go back to them, you'd see your error, that's if you'd admit to them as errors.

Is good you know we'll account for our Words...

Matthew:12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Colossians:3:17
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

OkaiCorne:
KINDLY EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ADHERING TO THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS IS A WALK IN DISOBEDIENCE...BECAUSE I NO DEY PAY "TITHES" ABI?

How have you adhered to the teachings of Jesus?

Did the Jews who were so into Tithe paying but neglected other aspects of the ordinances, commended for it as complete obedience? Didn't the Master say, 'In that (Tithe paying) you did well, but ought not to neglected the other?

If you do some and neglect some, then your obedience is not complete.

Rev3:2
Wake up! You only have a little Strength left, and it is almost gone. So try to become stronger. I have found that you are not completely obeying God.
The Servant's obedience to his Master must be complete before it is termed obedience.

Jesus disqualified the Pharisees for their half obedience.

OkaiCorne:
It's good to know that you'll be seated with God judging me on the last day right? Good riddance? that's very Christ like of you...keep it up

Hahahahahahahaha. This guy leave me abeg. See how you throw irrelevant issues into this.

What has sitting with God got to do with this discussion?

PaChukwudi44:
To show the superiority of the Melchizedek priesthood over the levitical priesthood. That was the only reason. To show you that Levi even paid tithes through Abraham to Melchizedek. No where did it ask us to pay tithes to anyone in the order of Melchizedek neither did the Bible record any apostle receiving tithes in the order of Melchizedek. As clearly stated the sacrifices in the Melchizedek priesthood was done just ONCE

Okay then, Tell me what the Holy Spirit means by this;
Good News Translation Hebrews 7:8

In the case of the priests the tenth is collected by men who die; but as for Melchizedek the tenth was collected by one who lives, as the scripture says.

There's something you are not seeing or deliberately and willingly refusing to see, and until you see it, you will understand why Tithing was mentioned here in the first place.

OkaiCorne:
CNN newsreporter, I am a truthful person so I got nothing to deny.

God has no allegiance to any religion under Heaven... hence, I need no allegiance to any religion to serve Him.

God and Jesus is alright for me. I am no longer a part of any earthly institution that mixes TRUTH with lies to decieve people into doing the wrong things. Only the Serpent is the great deceiver. I am really afraid for the judgement coming for the Church,

May God help you Christians...

Okay, good riddance. Very soon i shall see you declaring for atheism. Imagine the kind of Christian you were, tomorrow you'd claim you were a strong Christian but no longer. hahahahahahahahaha.

A Christian who doesn't know how to use scriptures.

OkaiCorne:
If what you are practising is Christianity and you think you are truly following Jesus...then I do not want to be a Christian.

The only reason I go to Church is Jesus. Take away Jesus from the Church and I have no business being there...

Are you really curious to know how I turned out this way?

Your speech betray you. You don't have the heart of a servant. You are a master over your life. You want to use common sense to follow Jesus. When he says go right, you consider it and decide to go left.

I'm not curious to know anything, because your words speaks volumes.

OkaiCorne:
Nice dodging tactics from someone who thinks without tithes and offerings, the Church of God will shut down...

The truth will keep on staring in your face till you accept it wholeheartedly...

Now, pls take me on based on my Op. Enough of the baseless arguments.

Why did Paul bring in the issue of Tithing in Hebrew 7?

OkaiCorne:
I have rambled and pranced after showing you Matthew 25 vs 31-40. My dear, you are not ready to accept the TRUTH....It seems you prefer to uphold an old testament tradition as opposed to the teachings of Jesus...

What is the summary of the long epistle in your OP that Matthew 25 vs 31-40 has not answered?

Lolzzz. You have a problem with using scriptures. You pick scriptures completely out of context claiming you have made any point? instead you indicted yourself.

Jesusgirl92:
You are trying to twist things.... But I won't flog this issue anymore.... Do whatever makes you happy make I dey pay my tithe dey go.... Everybody is happy. End of discussion.

Exactly my dear. End of story. I have satisfactorily indulged him, now it's time to get serious. Anyone who comes in here must discuss the Op or get ignored.

OkaiCorne:
I will clearly repeat this again...God is not a dog that is eager for 10% of your salary. If you think giving a piece of beef to someone who owns the Cattle on a thousand hills is a favor you are doing to the church...then you have missed it big time.

God wants your all...not a miserable 10%

This servant of God has his stipulated ways he wants to.serve his God.

So, when he asked Levi to collect Tithe, he was hungry? Or Melchizedek whom Paul says is Jesus who collected Tithe from Abraham was hungry or ignorant?

Wait, was i the one whispered to God to collect Tithe in the first place?

Now, be serious, enough of this derailment. You have no an iota of an idea what my Op is about, you have rambled and pranced all over the thread trying to change the Op, i indulge you. Now, back to business.

You either treat the Op or let me be.

OkaiCorne:
Not paying a lesser important "tithe" now makes me a goat...but giving to the poor and needy even makes me a bigger goat right?

Nice logic there...

The Scripture you brought up, albeit out of context indicted you.

You walk in disobedience yet are trying to justify your stance.

OkaiCorne:
Go and ask Analize701 who thinks I've committed a grave offence for not paying tithes (indebtedness to God)...without considering the fact that I happily give materially to the less privileged (lending to God).

I really don't understand how a Christian ends up prioritizing traditions over LOVE (for God and man) just like a Pharisee

You asked a question, answer it. Why dodge it by bringing me into it? lolzzzzzzz. Guy is confused.

Who.said it's a crime to give to the poor? Jesus says so both, you called him dog and said you'd do as you choose.

OkaiCorne:
My dear...God is not a dog that is hungry for 10% of your money. The Law says give 10% through tithes...but let me tell you this, meet your needs and give back the rest to God. So if the rest is 95% after meeting your needs...give it back to God through giving to the Church and sacrificial giving to Humanity...

Can you operate by this standard set out by Jesus?...does Matthew 6 v 25 hold any importance to you?

Keep it coming, the real you is gradually emerging.

You had the temerity to put God and a dog in the same sentence?

I shd finish meeting my needs first then turn the left overs to God right? Good servant.

So you are saying in essence that God was a hungry dog when he commanded Levi to collect Tithe then, but He is no longer a hungry dog now that he has stopped collecting Tithe?

How does matt 6:25 apply here? Pls learn how to use scriptures.


I.would ve asked you a question, but it's a waste of time, you jump over them to talk about baseless issues.

OkaiCorne:
Matthew 25 vs 31-40
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.

35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,

36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?

39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’



PLEASE HELP ME SEARCH FOR PAYMENT OF TRADITIONAL TITHES IN THERE Tithes doesn't feed God..it feeds the Priests...but the act of sacrificial giving touches the very Heart of God!

Did you read the Matt 23:23 i posted you? You ignored it abi. lolzzzzz.

You just posted a scripture which is out of context which will be used against you big time. You are in this picture, a goat. Disobedient, master less man who does as he pleases, not as the master demands.

OkaiCorne:
Going by this your logic, I guess Martin Luther was also evil for breaking out of the Catholic church so we wouldn't be paying penance (money) for the forgiveness of our sins.

It seems you have a seething hatred for Muslims...I can see you displaying that in bits...

clap for yourself for this lame attempt as shifting the goal post.

You want to begin to talk about the Catholic Church now? What has Luther got to do with my Op?

And as for the Muslims, they pay Tithe too and higjer than i do, and theirs is used for war, yet you seems to be okay with it, but fiercely attack Christians for paying one hundred naira out of one thousand naira.

Why this thing dey pain satan you sef no.sabi.

Whatever satan fights, i do. because satan doesn't fight anything which has no God and potential in it.

I'm a tither, but because of you guys, a may have to.increase my Tithe to 20% instead of 10.

I don't only pay Tithe o, i pay First Fruit too. My first salary goes to God all, not a penny gets removed.
Now, satan will have to kill himself here.