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Christianity Etc › Re: The War In Syria And End Time Prophecy: Any Correlation? by Anas09: 11:29pm On Apr 26, 2018
EagleNest:
Hmmmnnn! This is quite revealing. You touched a lot of things in one go:

Spirit of Antichrist
Person of Antichrist
Chaos
Peace
Demand for worship of the beast in the temple
Roles of Islam
Christianity and its struggle in Asia unlike elsewhere

Where do American leadership fits in?
America in Prophecy! Hmmmm. Let's see.

Let's begin with the dream YHWH gave to Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 2.

An Image represented the world kingdoms/empires or governments which shall rule the earth before the Millennial reign of Christ.

We are told that, first the head of the Image (gold), represented the very King Nebuchadnezzar himself. He ruled supreme, no opposition. Not even the Assyria Empire could match it in any way.

The second Kingdom was to be (Silver), the Chest and hands part of the Image. It shall be great, but as silver is lesser in value to gold, it shall be lesser in power and influence to Babylon.

And we saw the Medo/Persian Empire (Macedonia and Persia) which joined forces to pull down Babylon.

The third Empire was made of Brass. This consisted of the waist and the thighs of the Image. Of course nah, Brass is lesser than silver, so, the Kingdom shall not be as strong as it's successor.

Within the Medo-Persian Empire, Daniel made us to understand that another King shall arise and take power by force, overthrowing the existing King on the throne.

The Fourth Kingdom of Iron. Alexander the Great.

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
Daniel:2:40

Dan 7:7- 8
And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.


Historically, we see Alexander the Great, (The He Goat), an illegitimate son of Emperor Philip, (Not heir to the throne), Charged against King Darius (The Ram) the ruling Emperor, killed him took over the throne. He was so strong Darius could not withstand him.

Alexander the Great did very great. No kingdom could withstand him. He finished his War Career at 32, at his prime. (When he was strong), his great horn was broken, his power failed and he died.

Before his death, he divided his kingdom into four Kingdoms and placed his Four Generals over each.

Dan 7: 8b and for it (His Kingdom) came up four notable ones

And the prophecy was fulfilled as Alexander divided his kingdom into 4 and gave them to...
1. Cassander.

2. Lysimachus.

3. Seleuxus, and

4. Ptolemy.

Now, these 4 Generals forgot to rule, but were busy fighting themselves and terrorizing their people.

Alexander the Great had squashed off the Persian axis of the Empire, all his Generals were Greeks. From one of 4 kingdoms, the Roman Empire rose up.

Daniel 8:9 -11
And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.
Daniel:8:11


If you read carefully, you'd see the activities of the Roman Empire in the above scriptures.

Out of one of the 4 Generals, the Roman Empire rose, and, it dealt severely and cast the stars (The saints) down and stamped on them. The Roman Empire persecuted Christians fiercely and succeeded in doing so.

The Roman Empire destroyed the Jewish Temple which led to the cessation of the Jewish Daily sacrifices till today, as the Jews can not offer their sacrifices except in the Temple.

T.BC.
Christianity Etc › Re: Odin Of Asgard: Making A Case For Almighty God by Anas09: 9:04pm On Apr 26, 2018
oyetpel:
YHWH banished Lucifer, am i right?
Yeah, very right.
But, i thought you talked about the God of the Old Testament and Jesus of the New Testament. I didn't see how Lucifer fit in.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thread For Forgotten But Deceased Nairaland Members by Anas09: 9:01pm On Apr 26, 2018
SirJohn:
SirJohn is alive and strong, been watching from the sidelines.
Some of the topics we brought to the fore and debated hotly on NL several years ago later became household topics of discussion.
'Tithing' was one of them, I believe every thought on tithing was treated on NL before Freeze made it a national issue.
I'm glad that the passage of time did what most of us coming together on NL could not do, many things just unravelled on their own.

Good ol' days mehn!!! smiley
Whathuh??, SirJohn is still here?
Awww. Good to know you are still here. The guys in your days were guys, not this crop of kids here now.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thread For Forgotten But Deceased Nairaland Members by Anas09: 8:58pm On Apr 26, 2018
Chuksonyeike:
viaro is a female.Her first account here was Pilgrim1.You can search and read up her old posts
O boy, Viaro is a girl? Wonderful. What a brave heart. Lord?
Christianity Etc › Re: Odin Of Asgard: Making A Case For Almighty God by Anas09: 11:27pm On Apr 25, 2018
oyetpel:
It was briefly discussed in the movie because the storyline is not in tune with the ones in the comics.


Odin reveled in her skills and used her to his advantage during his rise to power.
But i think the turning point for Odin was when he became fearful of her ambition and willingness to kill (the more she kills, the more she become powerful), which means she might usurp him one day if she wasn't stopped.
Oh, i see now.

Still, how do they connect with YHWH?
Christianity Etc › Re: Kidnapper Angry With Pastor David Ibiyeomie, Gets Stuck To Church’s Wristband by Anas09: 10:53pm On Apr 25, 2018
otuekong1:
what a pathetic fellow you are
Ignore him. If it came from a Witch pagan doctor, he'd be all over the place jubilating.

Satan hates testimonies, but he won't stop us from testifying.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kidnapper Angry With Pastor David Ibiyeomie, Gets Stuck To Church’s Wristband by Anas09: 10:40pm On Apr 25, 2018
ZangaDude2018:
A member of Salvation Ministries testified in church during last Sunday Service, about her mom’s stunning deliverance from a kidnapper who was angry with the church’s General Overseer, Pastor David Ibiyeomie, for always preaching against them.
Where is the whole story nah?
Christianity Etc › Re: I've Never Seen A Breed Of Christians As Hateful As Those On Nairaland!! by Anas09: 10:25pm On Apr 25, 2018
OkCornel:
I think those questions are rather personal.

One should also consider if franky317 was a Christian when he married her...and subsequently became an atheist.

If that is the case, then there would be no need for those questions franky317 was asked...
No, Frank only just married. His other fiancée died, of which he blames God for. His bitterness against us is because he believes our God killed his girlfriend.
Even when they were committing fornication together, it never occurred to him to know sin is an opening for satan to attack.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thread For Forgotten But Deceased Nairaland Members by Anas09: 10:19pm On Apr 25, 2018
I met vook here, he left but his account is active.

One guy i admired so much his intellectual prowess was Viaro, he posted last 2010, his account is still active. What about SirJohn? Nuclearboy? dem plenty. sometimes an old thread is pull up, we see all the old guys.

And, maybe some people got tired of the stupidity here but didn't bother to deactivate but just left.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thread For Forgotten But Deceased Nairaland Members by Anas09: 10:12pm On Apr 25, 2018
TSOM:
Rest in peace FirstKing01.
Are you sure he died? It's well o.
Christianity Etc › Re: Thread For Forgotten But Deceased Nairaland Members by Anas09: 10:12pm On Apr 25, 2018
TSOM:
Rest in peace FirstKing01.
Are you sure he died? It's well o.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Is T B Joshua? by Anas09: 10:10pm On Apr 25, 2018
Hahahahahahahaaha. Have you checked his Church? I think he is there.
Christianity Etc › Re: I've Never Seen A Breed Of Christians As Hateful As Those On Nairaland!! by Anas09: 10:06pm On Apr 25, 2018
OkCornel:
I've watched your exchange with Butterflyleo...and I am not saying this support you...but just to state the facts

Since your marriage is working fine despite differences in your beliefs, it shows that you and your spouse have gone a long way in accommodating your differences... cos, in a religious country like Nigeria...it's a big deal...some ladies would have used the line of "not being unequally yoked with an unbeliever" to exit the marriage...

Conversely, there are marriages where both couples are Christians (some are pastors sef)..and it's full of fight, quarrels, unhappiness and eventually, divorce (which God hates)

Whosoever has issues with your marriage on account of your difference in beliefs should also bear in mind that God wants a happy marriage...and hates divorce...or worse still, an unhappy union...

Butterflyleo and franky317, please sheathe your swords, trading insults will help no one...

#Peace...
You misunderstand. Butterflyleo is not against him marrying whoever he wants neither is he against marriage and peace in it. He only asked Frank a question.

Since he is so against YHWH and his followers online, why did he choose to marry one of His daughters?

Does his wife know he is an atheist?

Does he tell his wife off at home as he does to us here?

How does he handle the issue of prayers at home?

Just questions which Frank could simply answer.

Now, this is me. I do not hide my stance when it comes to who i am. I am an unrepentant, unshamed, unapologetic, open Christian. I hardly have anything to talk about outside my God, both online and offline.

I can not pretend to like an atheist to the point of accepting his marriage proposal. Marry him, pretend at home but come here to banter and call atheists satanist.

We can agree on all other things, we can work together as colleagues, but you'd know that i won't keep your company if you hate my God.

Just like i won't allow you into my family house if i know you have the tendency to disparage my biological father.

So, the question is, Why did Frank leave an atheist lady to marry a Christian?

The Christian who marries an Atheist is indeed a Christian. lol
Christianity Etc › Re: I've Never Seen A Breed Of Christians As Hateful As Those On Nairaland!! by Anas09: 9:50pm On Apr 25, 2018
superhumanist:
In the case of felixomor and emmanystone (analice), theirs is a result of brain damage caused by religion.

Even discussing mundane things with them is hard. They are so shaped by religion that they see everything through a fundamentalist Christian lens
See who is talking. If i'm brain dead, at least a have a brain, do you?

A very dull incoherent person is calling me brain dead. hahahahahaha
Christianity Etc › Re: I've Never Seen A Breed Of Christians As Hateful As Those On Nairaland!! by Anas09: 9:44pm On Apr 25, 2018
Dalam0n:
Analice that still supports naijadeyhia till tomorrow. She even tell lies to cover up for him even after he ran away. They are all the same.
Pls what lies did she tell to cover him up?

I remember after reading the said thread which none of you bothered to read to the end, i wanted us to seriously discuss it, you all scammed off like mice. You knew you are defamers, lairs. You all were okay with calling him names without prove. Your only prove were links you guys didn't read through.

Only Satanist act the way you do.

If i ask you now to prove your accusation, you'd run away.
Christianity Etc › Re: I've Never Seen A Breed Of Christians As Hateful As Those On Nairaland!! by Anas09: 9:18pm On Apr 25, 2018
4kings:
Just finished reading every post on this thread.

LMAO grin grin grin
That Butterflyleo is a tough case. grin grin grin grin
That's Naijadeyhia fo you. Lol

Anyways, don't have much to add, during the Naijadeyhia/Butterflylion fraud saga, even KingEbukasBlog and Felixomor didn't bother questioning him not to talk of Analice107 sef.
Anything, to support their religious argument i guess.

Though like you said some are cool, like lordnicklaus kilo4sure and a few others, though they are not active again in this section. embarassed
Are you permitted to be dishonest because you are an atheist or you are just doing it deliberately?

You are one person who dug up an old thread about some guy calling 4everGod a fraud. Maybe you thought people were too lazy to read through and see if the accusations were valid, but i followed that thread to the end and discovered it was false accusation because the said guy ran off and later deactivated when the matter involved the law in Abuja. You are a crooked fellow, because when i called you out to talk about it, you ran off.

The Next accusation came with some guy again mentioning him in a case in the property section connecting him with another women based in the U.S who defrauded some people. A link was pasted, again, i took time to read the thread which ran into so many pages, only to discover it was all noise.

Those who even accused him from the beginning, later called on him to help bring out modalities to make the said woman refund the money she had in her possession. He brought the Woman's husband a white man into the matter.

Before i went into reading that thread. i promised to apologize to you guys if i called you liars and defamers wrongly. When i was done, i called you, Lepasharon, the guy who dropped the link, hopefullandlord and Martins to see where ForeverGod was a thieve, you all ran off. But were just satisfied with just the noise.

He was not here to defend himself, so i did the investigations and discovered malignity on your own part. Shame

I discovered someone like Lepasharon didn't even read that thread to the middle, she just ran off shouting thief thief, when the same person she was calling thief was the one who was called to solve the matter later.

As for you, the thread you dropped, you didn't read it to the end you'd have seen that the guy who brought about the accusation ran off when the case got really serious. But, because you wanted to defame and blacklist a Christian, you didn't care whether or not your defamations were true, till today you are still holding on that defamation.

I like how the world works, you just sowed a seed which will germinate to your account. This has nothing to do with your creed. Someone shall defame you. It shall be so real that everyone around you shall spit at you. The stench shall trail you for life as no one will believe you.

It won't happen now. You shall grow up, rise very high in your life endeavour, you shall be known far and near, then you shall reap what you have sown here, you will remember your contributions here. Mark my words. I said this to you before, i'm repeating myself.

I stood for 4evergod the same way i wld stand for you if someone tried to defame you. It's satanic to do what you guys did and are still doing.

Oh, wait, satan works better with blackmail. When he is boxed into a corner, he uses blackmails.
Christianity Etc › Re: Odin Of Asgard: Making A Case For Almighty God by Anas09: 8:40pm On Apr 25, 2018
Interesting. I have not watched Odin so just have to glean from the little of what you said here about him. But, i'm trying to connect the dots how Odin and YHWH relate in their dealings with their subjects.

From my understanding of why YHWH was seemingly cruel to the OT people, was to show to them what life is like without Him. And, When Christ eventually came, He shows to us how it is like to live in Him. Correct me if i'm wrong.

When you live outside of God, 'Rebellion to his rules', Life is cruel, but when you obey Him, it's heaven on earth.

But, Odin, according to the story was cruel. What fueled his benevolence later?
Celebrities › Re: Opeyemi Aiyeola Welcomes Third Child by Anas09: 2:10pm On Apr 25, 2018
vizkiz:
Beautiful woman.

Very humble too... If only I can have just one hour with her kiss
She was very dark skinned when i knew her, She is now very white. What happened?
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 1:31pm On Apr 25, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
I would probably be banned by antispambot if I make them all clickable but you can just copy any of the lines and paste them in your browser

Anyways, let me do three

www.reddit.com/r/atheism

www.reddit.com/r/atheists

www.reddit.com/r/debateanatheist
Thanks. You hope you won't get banned tho.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 1:12pm On Apr 25, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Maybe visit the links and find out yourself?
reddit.com/r/atheism
reddit.com/r/atheists
reddit.com/r/debateanatheist
reddit.com/r/trueatheism
reddit.com/r/skeptic
reddit.com/r/nonreligion

Copy any of them, paste them in your browser and see for yourself
drop the direct links pls.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 12:59pm On Apr 25, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Yes! its not true, not even close
Aside killing yourselves what else do you talk about?
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 12:38pm On Apr 25, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
"When last were you on reddit? They hardly have anything else to talk about outside of killing themselves."
Is that a lie?
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 11:55am On Apr 25, 2018
danvon:
So Samson is in hell?
First off. No one is in Hellfire yet. Everyone is waiting in Hades for Judgement.

Secondly, did Samson Commit suicide? If yes, how did he do that?

The Woman in the Op drank Sniper. Some Jump off bridges, some tie a nooze. What did Samson use?

And, does it surprise you that indeed a man like Samson can end in Hellfire? Listen, God is no respecter or persons. The Soul that Sins shall die, means just that. And the death there is not this physical death which everyone both sinners and saints die. It is a Spiritual death.

Sin is a disease of the Spirit. When it attacks, it gets the Spirit killed. And knowing what Spiritual death is, is key.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 11:46am On Apr 25, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Its intentional after all, sad!
Hopefullandlord. What did i say that's not true?
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 11:24am On Apr 25, 2018
nduchucks:
Sir, I submit that what you called 'your spiritual body' is not the same as your current physical body. Your current body can be burned with physical fire. This physical fire as defined by ill-advised folks as hell fire, cannot exist in the spiritual realm, by definition. That is the only point I made.
I think the misunderstanding is from your own part.

No one ever said the eternal fire which will burn in Hell is this physical Fire we use in cooking our meals and warming ourselves. The Fire Moses saw at the back of the Sinai desert, which although was aflame but never consumed what it was on, was not the same fire he used to roast his Lamb chops after the days work. That fire will consume away his chops if he failed to extract them from the fire when he ought to. This is fire. Jesus the Master, calls it Eternal Fire. Whatever is eternal is spiritual, not physical.

nduchucks:
This is a very simple concept to grasp if you simply allow your God given brain to think.
Lolzz, I now see why you misunderstand and mix physical with Spiritual concepts.

Sir. God didn't give us brains to use them to understand Spiritual things. He gave us a Spirit to discern and understand Spiritual things. This is why Spiritual things fly over the heads of carnal minded people as foolishness. To them, it's Rocket Science. Without the Spirit of God functional inside of you, you'd be trying to understand Trinity, virgin birth. resurrection, Hellfire with your Brain and will never grasp them.
nduchucks:
I'm sorry to say that you are quite confused. I also resent the wicked characteristics which you just attributed to the Omnibenevolent, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and the most merciful God. This is quite shameful, I'm sorry to say.
Let me repeat myself. God is a God of Justice who will recompense evil doers with tribulation. Oh the Bible, both Old and New Testament is replete with Judgment side of YHWH.

Sir, all you said up is emotional outburst and God is a Spirit, therefore not moved by your these emotions, it does not work with Him.

For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
Deuteronomy:4:24

You'll be submerged in deception if you believe YHWH allowed Jesus go through what He went through on the Cross just so that the evil men will go unpunished at resurrection.

People who talk the way you do, are yet to fully come to terms with what actually Happened at the Garden of Eden which was played out physically on the Cross by Jesus. If you know what spiritual death means. your tongue shall cleave to the roof if your mouth in fear.

Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Matthew:3:12

If you think the bolded is talking about the chaff of wheat, then, you are in for a real shock on the last day.

Lolzz @ Omnibenevolent. God is a God of Justice. No evil work will go unpunished. It is His prerogative to choose when that Justice will be served, and He chose after death at resurrection.

And it's only satan who will convince his people to keep doing evil believing that God is too benevolent to punish them. lolzzzzzzzzz. If he allowed His son to go through the Cross. i laugh at anyone who says God loves evil men too much to let them burn.

Fact is, God won't be punishing them. they will be choosing their punishment by themselves by refusing to accept the only requirement for eternal Life on the other side with Him.

nduchucks:
The above is nothing but red herring and has nothing to do with the point I made to wit, the definition of hell you have become erroneously accustomed to, cannot exist in the 'spiritual realm'. That fire and brimstone should not be taken literally - its that simple.
Lolzzz. Again, since you use your physical Brain cells to understand Spiritual things, i'll leave you to your schemes. But, again, God is a Spirit and everything about Him is Spiritual.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 10:26am On Apr 25, 2018
rhektor:
The header is even wrong, how could one commit suicide and be a victim at the same time? All these nairaland atheists would not kill me with their delusion
They fight by all means to justify what God condemns. When i call them satanist, they get angry and call me potty mouth and insulting

When one speaks with the voice of the Rebel, what shd i call him? The Rebel.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 12:51am On Apr 25, 2018
Xbee007:
grin grin grin grin grin grin
Even Religious Folks Cant Seem to Agree on some Myths and Fables. Cheery picking help in coping a lot. The bible contains so many profanities and contradictions that it would take a severely blind sheeple to not see them.
If you read carefully he made it clear he is not religious. At least not a Christian.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 12:50am On Apr 25, 2018
Xbee007:
Arguing with u is like pouring water into a basket.
Lol. You my dear finds it hard to maintain a comprehensive coherent line of discourse. You have been prancing here and there attempting to derail your own thread, now it's me who is porous? lolzzz.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09:
Xbee007:
Please, pray to God to fix Nigeria. Tell him to stop all this meaningless killings and suffering before three market days. Thanks, I will be expecting the miraculous changes before Friday.
He won't answer the prayer because of two reasons.

1. The Enemy must also prove himself.

2. He won't do for you what He has given you power and wisdom to do.

Nigerians called what's going on on themselves. They voted for Buhari,they shd enjoy him.

When the wicked rule, the People mourn...

Buhari had made known his intentions in his passed Campaigns. He told us clearly what he would do. He promised us blood, we opened our eyes and hands and delivered the power to make him to carry out his schemes, now you want God to stop him?

Is God your errand boy?

You made your bed, lie on it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 12:40am On Apr 25, 2018
That is a sad incident. cry cry They are free now. No worry, No nothing. Free at last!


Dumb! Very Dumb!! Nonsense!!!

If you read my previous post you would have seen where I said some things are naturally beyond our control. However, that is changing with science. You have seen people with inferiority complex who bleach their skin. You have heard of transgenders. You have heard of IVF and how science help parent in choosing the gender of their unborn child with huge success. The God of the Gap is ever shrinking.

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Xbee007:
You are being naive. Why would you say such nasty stuffs about atheists? I am an atheist and I have never tasted alcohol before. How about that? And I am sure you know many religious folks who drink, fornicate, steal, lie and other social vices like nobody's business.
Ahhh, Otio. ma binu. no vex. atheist decides against God so that they can live free and do as they like. Look at the west today? those people protesting nude on the streets not minding Children are not Christians, they are atheists democrats.

You may not drink, but don't make seem like it's not an atheist think. They use all sorts of drugs to norm their depression.

Besides, you sidetracked the intent of that post. Again, What do i miss for being a born again Christian? This is the purpose of this the comment.

Xbee007:
Hope you know that the deeply religious American Christian Southerners are actually not as tolerant as the less religious Northerners. And by the way American Christianity is mostly focused on the vainly prosperity doctrine.
I'm trying not to derail your thread, but you're doing everything to derail it.

What has intolerance got to do with anything here?

We are about hope for believers in Christ and those who depend on other support groups.

And you lied about American Gospel being about Prosperity, which i see nothing like prosperity Gospel anyways.
Pls try not to derail your thread.
Xbee007:
This is the biggest insult to other religious folks who have suffered from depression. Some fanatical Christians will even go as far as saying people die because of sin. Death is the wages of sins. In essence, what they are inadvertently saying the hundreds of Christians who have died in the hands of Rampaging Herdsmen or Boko Haram are sinful that is why they are dead. In order words, they deserve to die because of their sins. How pathetic!
Lolzzzzz. Why aren't focus Bros?
From what i as a Christian stand to loose as a Christian to Herdsmen killing Christians. Na wao. pls don't get me banned by Anti spam bod o.

You brought up a woman filled with the Holy Spirit who lost her family to an auto crash being in a position to be depressed, i answered that, you left it and jumped to other religious folks, then to Herdsmen. what is the connection biko?

Christians have been facing persecution and death beginning with Christ. it shall continue till He returns, its not new and will never be. Only the ignorant will be perturbed.

This is what the Bible says about the killing of Christians by evil men.
Good News Translation Revelation 6:9-11
Then the Lamb broke open the fifth seal. I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been killed because they had proclaimed God's word and had been faithful in their witnessing.

They shouted in a loud voice, “Almighty Lord, holy and true! How long will it be until you judge the people on earth and punish them for killing us?”

Each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the complete number of other servants and believers were killed, as they had been.


So, you see? These evil men won't stop killing us until Christ returns. but they are actually not killing us, they are killing themselves cos they'll be the ones going to eternal death in the fire.


Xbee007:
So they shouldn't cry when they lose loved ones? Why don't you die already if heaven is that great? grin grin
Who said anything about not crying when a loved one dies? When my Aunt and her family died. i cried until i was afraid blood would come out of my eyes. I couldn't open my eyes because of the swelling. But, i never put it on God, because he may have allowed it. but He didn't cause it.

And Yes, Heaven is so great, but i can't go there on my terms. I'm not an atheist, so i can't commit suicide.

In my Culture long before Christianity came, suicide is, I think the biggest and devastating taboo. If a family member commits suicide, the entire family gets alienated and denigrated. the scare alone won't let any atheist if there's any in my community commit suicide.

I will go to heaven, but on my Father's terms.
Xbee007:
That is a sad incident. They are free now. No worry, No nothing. Free at last!
Well, that will be so, if they have the rite of passage. Jesus Christ offers that right, anyone who rejects it rejects everlasting life. No emotions attached.

As much as i loved them, if they but attended Church without surrendering their lives, i fear, only the little Children shall have passage to God's presence. All the tears i shed won't change a think. God is no respecter of Persons. His words are binding even on Himself.

After Adam, He determined that every human must enter the earth through 9months conception and delivery through the female man, He subjected Himself through that too.

If He says, it's only through Jesus we enter heaven, then only through Jesus shall we enter heaven.

Xbee007:
Dumb! Very Dumb!! Nonsense!!!
Ndo, no vex.I said you sound, i didn't say you are. epele.

Xbee007:
If you read my previous post you would have seen where I said some things are naturally beyond our control. However, that is changing with science. You have seen people with inferiority complex who bleach their skin. You have heard of transgenders. You have heard of IVF and how science help parent in choosing the gender of their unborn child with huge success. The God of the Gap is ever shrinking.
And Science will help you do what in future? Tell you why you get hungry and eat. why you get tired and sleep? Have they been able to determine what sleep is? In sleep you rest, rejuvenate, how?

How can a strong man be killed by a child while asleep?
Science will help you know what death is and stop it? They'll you stop Time or delay it? Can they stop the Sun from coming up and going down?

What are they even doing that is completely isolated from what already exist? IVF? Can they make a baby independent of an existing human cells?

Do you think sex change makes them creators Lolzzz. Why not create a human complete from start to finish independent of tissues or cells from another human. They can't even create an ordinary Mosquito without another Mosquito getting involved.

How does people with complex come in here?

This is just deviation from the track.

Wow.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 11:37pm On Apr 24, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
"When last were you on reddit? They hardly have anything else to talk about outside of killing themselves.
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I'm starting to think this stupidity is intentional cuz I have too much faith in humanity to believe such display of stupidity can be unintentional
What is stupid about it? Aren't atheist depressed and contemplating suicide? Shd we go over this again?

I reposted comments from there here in Nairaland. yet you are here calling me stupid.

Why didn't you come up talking tough in the thread where your atheist brother was seriously depressed and wanted to jump into a swimming pool? that's if he had not by now.

Shame no gree you open mouth. You claimed he could be a Christian troll.
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will Suicide Victims Go: Heaven Or Hellfire? by Anas09: 11:29pm On Apr 24, 2018
nduchucks:
I see quite a few narrow minded comments here. Comments which inadvertently give atheists reinforcements for their beliefs.

For now, let me just state that hell, as defined as brimstone and fire, only exists in this realm we live in.

When you die, your physical body decays and
d will no longer exist. How then can anyone burn in hell as defined by most religious folks.
You just deflated my expectation of you to the barest minimum. When you charged in with your ' I see Few narrow minded comments here...', my hopes rose, only to crash when you said ' When you die your physical body decay... Yes your physical body decay,but what happens to your spiritual body?
No body says your physical body doesn't decay. but does your spiritual body decays too?

The person no longer exist on earth, yes, all memories of him ceases to exist on earth Yes, but does that mean he no longer exist?

Sir, what burns in Hellfire is a resurrected body, not this one you are wearing. indestructible body. Apostle Paul said, we shall all be changed. All.

God gave us a glimpse of that when in the burning Bush with Moses, earthly Material (Tree) was burning but not getting consumed.

nduchucks:
I submit to you that the hell-fire defined hell is simply a metaphor. No loving father will throw his own child into a raving inferno unless that father is wicked or insane.
Only Satan will deceive people to think they can live as wickedly as they want and get away with it. iro o. Na lie. There are consequences for actions. whether you believe it or not doesn't change a think.
The loving father will not throw his Children into the fire yes. You said His children. And you are right. For, why will God throw His children into the fire? But, do you know what it means to be a Child of God?

Can you point to me anywhere it sayd God created Hellfire for His children? No. Hellfire was created for Datan and his demons. But what about those who are so wicked, acting like demons in human flesh. Doing everything to oppose God? are these Children of God?

Jesus says, 'if you don't gather with me, you scatter abroad'. If Jesus is gathering and you are scattering, are you for or against Him?

Do you why Jesus cast demons off people?

Anyone who told you that there is no place where evil doers will spend their eternity, that person is working for satan. Quote me on that.

God's. loving Children obeys Him, not fight him. But here you are giving the atheist false hope to believe they can do all they do and go away unpunished. lol. you try.

nduchucks:
Some of you Christians need to study the bible with your God given brains and stop feeding Atheists unnecessarily.
Funny how non Christians think they are better placed to teach Christians their faith.

Oga, If you don't have the new life Christ is offering now (That new life will act as an access code into His presence), when you die, you'll be left with no choice but to be where the rebellious will be.

Call Hellfire Metaphor, Allegory Hyperbole or Oxymoron, it won't grant you access into the presence of Christ.

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