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@Keen. Lol. Its not about being a mother. Ok, let me create a scenario for you. God beats his chest about his servant Job to Satan. Satan says, Job does not serve you faithfully for nothing. He went on to mention all God has done for Job. Satan says remove all those things and see that Jon will curse you to ur face. So God gives Satan the go ahead to remove all including his Children, yet Job remains faithful.
Now here is your answer.
Job 2:4. And Satan answered and said to the Lord, Skin for Skin, all that a man has he will give for his life.
@keen do you understand ^^?
Even satan knew that to get a man is to burn his skin directly, not thinking you can break him by hurting his child, yes he'll be hurt but not as much as he'll be wen burnt directly. This is the point am trying to make, not that I won't do everything to save my child. But instively, u'd save urself first.
Skin for skin. You feel what touches ur skin first, before empathising with others in the same situation.
So please don't think you made a point.

@Frank317
What you are saying still don't hold water.
I said , give me scriptural backings as to the teachings of Christ. Not what mere men are infusing into christianity. Pastors don't define christianity, Christ does.
A pastor is feeding people life serpents, his sperms, and grass giving his own interpretation of what he feels those things are. Shd I stop being a christian base on that?
There's a church in my street where the Pastor attends to ur problem according to ur age. 1k for each year. He is a practical ocult man, doing his thing openly. Shd I now say Christianity is fake? If these things don't happen, then I have believed a lie. Jesus told me to look out for all of these, including you.
I can not base my belief in christ looking at what my general overseer does. He will answer for himself. Am not a professor, but I can read. Am not blind I can read my Bible for myself. Yes I fall into sin every now and then, but that doesn't mean Christianity is wrong.


Again Frank, give me verses of the scriptures where Jesus teaches his followers to be selfish and not feel comapssion for others. Why did Jesus even die?

Finally a truce between Vooks and Collins.
Thank you Bro Charles for your Patience. We really took time to derail this thread. Thank God we are back on track.

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Christianity promotes such absord behaviour, you can't deny the proves I presented up there.
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:oReally? Christianity promotes absord behavour? Can you please mention such absord behavours with their scriptural references?

Am never to lie, but if I lie that makes christianity evil?
Am a Christian, and I empathise. Any Christian who is not compassionate is not a follower of Christ. I thought Christianity focuses or is moulded by the teachings of Christ? If you come across a disobidient christian who goes out of her way to be selfish, do u think that that fellow is a model through which u shd judge Christianity by?

Again, I reiterate. Drop those Christ' teachings that promotes those absort b ehavours here for the world to see.

Little Kids who can't control their own habits, wants to control God.

But the angel who appeared to Mohammed didn't introduce himself as Angel Gabrial always did. It was Kadijat who suggested to Mohammed that in the Bible there was an Angel called Gabrial who usually appeared to people, it could be him. Gbam. Mohammed concluded it was angel Gabrial. And this Muslims read the Bible, they see the character of Angel gabrial that is at variants with that of the one who oppressed and totured Mohammed. Why not ask questions and compare notes?

^^. No I don't see Atheist as demons, No. I see them as angry, just like you right now. You know there's God, you are just angry U can't have God under ur whims and Caprices. You want a God who will explain his every move to U, A God u can command around, something you can't even do to me, talkless of ur father. You for one, are just a spoiled child, throwing tantrums
No I don't think Atheists are evil. At least the ones I judged to be atheist indeed, because most of you are not. Ur inclinations keeps changing.
I have said it before, the only person I can truly call an atheist so far is johnnydon22, and I don't think he is evil. All others are just God haters.
That said. since you feel christian teachings are disturbing, don't you think it will be a good idea if u post those teachings here for the world to see? Like ii said, post jesus' teachings that admonishes his followers to be selfish and not show compassion.
Am waiting.

Vooks U dey fall my hands here oo. Abeg leave Italo alone. This thing is not by power or might. If you don't have the Spirit of God, U can't see the truth even it is so glarring. Pls stop this war of words.

Its ok folk. Let's leave Rebecca to her Cat

This catholic dudes are so funny. So jesus spoke to the dead? Elijah and Moses are dead now?
Sorry folk, Moses and Elijah are not dead, that's why they'll return to this earth as the two witnessein Rev 11, to be killed by the anti-christ.
So all this obituaries declearing their loved ones to be in the bosom of the lord are canonising their dead.
There is a Word here VENERATION. Catholics venerate the dead and build sttus and alters, offer rituals to them. What the catholis do for Father Tansy won't be what the Pentecostals will do for Awolowo

And why did Mary appear to fatima Mohammed's favorite daughter with a message? What connection does catholicism and islam have?

Ah @Macof. The None existing thing you can't stop crying about? Now why is that?
And this is about the Catholic Rosary and you are a pagan why are you wailing here?
Ooo wait!!!! Paganism is synonymous to Catholicism. Wail on ye idol worshippers.

I only would like for someone to answer
Vook. How do u get a revelation of something that predates you by 1000yrs. Why is it a revelation? What is a revelation?
Why will that revelation be abt something (a totem) used by idol worshippers to worship their gods, something jehovah hates?

My dear, if you read ur Bible, u'll understand. Prophet Daniel prophesied a Messiah who will come to the nation of Israel. That came to pass.
He prophesied abt the cutting off of the Messiah. that one has come to pass.
He prophesied about the abormination that causes desolation, that one has come to pass (the land of Israel was desolate for how long?)
He prophesied that the Jewish daily sacrifice in the Temple will cease when the messiah is cut off. That one has come to pass. The daily sacrifices stopped because the temple was destroyed by the Roman army General Titus.
He prophesied the Jewish Temple will be desecrated, is the temple of an Idol allah standing there? Yes.
Do you think if the temple of that idol is not standing there, the jews wouldn't have rebuild their temple and continue with their daily sacrifices? They would ve. But the word of God Must be fulfilled, hence the encrougement on their Temple space.

Jesus will be that sacrifice until the gentile dispensation closes. Going by the prophecies and the world events its not so far away now.
Daniel prophesied about the anti-christ who will aid the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple, he will convince his Islamic people to remove their Temple from there, and they will remove it without any incident.
Wen all is set, he (the charismatic world leader, anti-christ) will assend the Temple and sacrifice a Pig in the Temple. They will be a revolt, at that point he'll claim the Temple as his own and command everyone to bow before him as God, refusal will be met with death.
The guy will reign supreme for 7yrs. The yrs that will be like 7,000yrs. After which Christ will return. Reign on earth for one thousand yrs. And I will reign with Him. Will you?

All this you'll see in Daniel chpts 7, 8,9, 11 and 12
Everything worketh together to bring to pass that which God(Yahwey has commanded) the Jews can't help it, the Arabs can't help it, no one can help it.

But the war that is eminent right now, or is gathering momentum right now, is the Gog and Magog war. That is the prophecy of prophet Ezekiel. You find this in Ezekiel 38 and 39.
Let the arab league and their allies gather, they shall be broken to pieces.

Watch and see how these Muslims will be crushed. Wow am so excited.

My good friend John. Why didn't you use the teachings of christ which encourages lack of compassion and love for the next person to buttress ur point here? You picked a single lady who may or may not even be a christ follower, but obviously ignorant Of her actions, and use that as a premise to give room to this blasphemy?

Why did Christ give the Parable of the good Sammritan? If we are Christ's followers shdnt we look at what he did and do same?
John, I will say, if u want to bash, start from Christ. Start picking His uncompassionate stands.
My dear, people are so selfish, its not because of their Creed, its just human nature.

Let me ask you dear John. If you were carrying ur one month old chubby daughter, and accidentally someone dropped hot Coals on u and ur baby, tell me ur honest truth, will you remove the coals from ur baby before removing urs? Human natures triggers in instinctively, before you even stop to consider, you'll renove urs first. Its human nature, its not because u r religious.
Now what that woman did and most of us do, espercially, the 'its not my portion' minset/kind of people, is ungodly. Its unchristian. If its not my portion, so its whose portion? Where did they even get that from?
These things can happen to anybody. I remember wen I had an accident. I was on a bike and an absent minded driver who forgot he was driving until he hit us, struck us. I fell in the middle of road when offices had closed and everyone was rushing home. A crowd gathered, but all they did was shout, scream but no one made any effort to help me. I was bledding my life out, they were just shouting. my left leg was so smatched, flesh scrabbed out of my bone, my bone was broken and bare. Probably it was the sight, but no one helped. I musttered strength and started begging for someone to help and not let me die in the midst of all these people.

One guy who I got to know later, who just got to the scene, he was a boyscout, no vehicle would stop, so he blocked the road and forced a grudging cabbie to take me to the hospital.

Tell me john, in that crowd were they only christians?
Lack of compassion knows no creed. So stop this baseless bashing.

HAPPY NEW MONTH To the House. May I see every Moniker here on the first of January.

May the Lord honour you sir. Good morning and have a fufilled december.
Ur labour in this field shall be rewarded.

Lol. I was hoping my Moniker will be mentioned.

Let me tell you a short story I made up when I did script wrting back in school. I hope I'll answer this question abit.

Once upon a time, there was a young King who inherited his fathers throne at a very young age. He didn't have a Queen, so he needed one. All his advicers had pretty daughters and fell over themselves trying to present their daughters as the best for the position. But there was a problem.

The people in his kindom knew who he was, and they knew that as the king, everything in his domain belonged to him, and everyone was subject to obey him.
He yarned for Pure and true love without any fear of subjugation. He wanted a queen who didn't know him, so had the right to say NO to him. As a matter of fact, he wanted a queen who can say no to him even when they were married. He wanted a queen who will have freedom, the Free Will to choose either to stay or to live him. He knew that, you can force a man to obey you, but you can't force a man to love you. And he needed love.

So, one day, he noticed for the first time a house keeper doing her chores. It was her turn to clean the Kings private Chambers. She won't even raise her head to look at the around. She knew that the King was there quietly reading a book, but then observing her.
The King knew that this girl didn't know him, so, at the cool of the day, after her close of work, the King disguises as one of the cleaners too and followed her from a distance to their hut. He kept doing that until one day, he approached and went into her house to meet her Parents.
They became friends. She continued going to work without knowing the very Palace she worked was a home of her friend. The King later proposed marriage to her and she accepted his proposal before she came to know he was indeed King.

Morale of the Story. The King is Christ, the girl is me, and the palace is the Kingdom of God being presented to us every day.
God is soveriegn, but allows us to take responsibility for our actions. He knows all things, yes. He can do all things Yes. But you have a responsibility, to do or not to do. Obidience without the room to disobey is not Obidience at all.

The younger Pauper girl could have said no to the King. But then, she would ve missed being the queen.

The Sinner is dead and ignorant of his state. A sinner is not a drawing man fighting to catch a lifeline. He is dead. Dead men don't appreciate anything. First Jesus goes right into that grave and pulls him out, make him realise his state, but doesn't force him to make the choice of accepting or rejecting the direction he is pointed towards.
Choose you this day whom you will serve...Jos. 24:15.
I present to you this day, life and dead. Choose (take the responsibility, you are not a robot). If you choose Life, you shall live, if you choose dead, you shall die...Deut 30:15! 19.

I agree with Muafrica. This calls for a thread, so we won't further derail this thread.
God bless my Christain family.

^^^ ok.

I thought this thread was about the Rosary? Pls @ Vooks, ignore this people. They don't believe in God, yet they are scared of hell. Don't allow them get under your skin.

Ok Brother Charles, point taken. And Godbless you too.

@Vooks.
I totally believe the Bible. Yes Dinosaurs lived with Man, that's why Adam will have a name for it. The evolutionist are pushing this conspiracy to esterblish their theory of evolution, hence the Billion of yrs old earth.
Am not a science student, so don't know and can't talk much about those things, But in my small mind I ask this. Man evolved from an Ape right? Then to those other creatures that are extinct then to them. Then how come we still have Apes today but no Dinosaurs? How many millions of yrs deos it take for an evolution to take place?

See, we are trolling this thread , forgive me Brother Charles.

@TJayjosh, am not a brother, am a sister. Lol.
@Vooks, am not absolutly taking that position that man had lived for billions of yrs before the Fall.
Am saying, because time wasn't counting against man, but was counting on beast, it is then save to speculate that, the Dinosaurs had lived and extinct before the Fall (?). Remember this is me in my closeth reasoning.
And I also said, the evolutionist may have exergerated the yrs of these beast with the intent to mislead. I do not want to believe that the Pre-Adamic Era is a grey area. Anyways, what does it do for me? If other creatures other than man had lived on earth before man, how does that help me overcome sin? I don't care.
I choose to believe the word of God regarless of what anyone says.

I watched this movie, "The Theory of Everything". The true life story of an Atheist grand Master, Steven Haukins. I laffed at how one twisted invalid fellow can imagine things, and speak out his imaginations and men decided to believe him rather than the creator of all things.
If they say the earth is not Six (6) yrs old. Then they shd tell us how many yrs man lived on earth before the Fall. Becos its the fall that trigard againg, which eventually brought about death (I mean death in the flesh).

Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy. A very subtile one, to cage people in fear.

Satan was here when Jesus was here, Jesus saw him everyday, confronted him everday, but never based his teachings on Satan, yet He came to set people free from this same satan. Instead He seemingly ignored satan.

The little I have read about this Rebecca Brown's Character from the link posted here, she's cunningly setting people up for fear. Jesus didn't send anyone that errant.

Collins said, she quotes the scriptures freely. Very funny. Do you know that in the logo or emblem of the ogboni cult, its a bible verse that's quoted there? (Ezekiel 29, can't remember the verse now) The day I saw it, I was shocked at how far satan can go to decieve people.
Its funny how even till today believers still think satan can't handle the bible or use it. Wow, O. O. Obu uses the Bible yet attributes all the characteristics of God to himself. Satan quoted the scriptures freely to Jesus.
My point is, if you see a sheep going astray or is being let astray, if you stand and do nothing abt it, then you are not working for christ. Why did he have to come and die for those souls? He shd ve just stood by and say, "let's wait for judgement day when everything will be made clear".

@zeongeon.
I had this discussion with a friend sometime ago. He insists that, as at wen satan disguised as the serpent and caused man to Fall in Eden, he(satan) had not yet Fallen out with God. because, according to him, its in revelation we see satan being cast down to earth by Michael.
This is exactly what you are saying here.

@Vooks asked you, if you say Satan was ruling in Eden along side Adam, that will invariably mean, there were two Captains in Eden? And the Bible didn't say that.

My questions.
1. If lucifer was in Eden ruling, Who was he reign over at that time. Definitely not fellow angels, and according to you, adam had not been created yet (?)

2. If as at when Lucifer provoked Man to rebel agaisnt God's Instructions, Lucifer was still upright, in right standing with God, why then will he want to beguile man to sin against God?
Why will I want to instigate ur son to turn against you if I don't have an animosity against you?

With regards to Ezekiel 28. Yes, satan was in Eden, but not as Lucifer.
Yes its in Ezekiel we were told who lucifer was before his fall. Lucifer didn't fall in Eden or from Eden. He fell from heaven, he didn't land in Eden when he fell. He only went to Eden to beguile man.

I have a funny theory of why Satan may have beguiled man to sin against God.

Pls join me in my stupidity. I think, Lucifer must have put everything into consideration before the revolution. I mean, his perfection, power of Wisdom, prowess in Music. The kind of Repect and authority he commanded among some of the Angels (I mean, the guy took 2/3 of the Angels population with him). He probably had thought that if he fails to overthrow the Only Potentate, he can as well create his own 'whatever' Earth? But after everything, he found him in this void, full of darkness, without the wherewithal to create shit.
Well, I think, the Other Angels must have accosted him and demanded for what he promised them. I mean, I can't give up my Angelic splendor for the Demon's for nothing.
Here two things will have to play out, and that will depend on what will be the outcome of his clandestine meeting with this unique Creature with his beautiful guilible wife, in their little garden. Doourr.
*rolls eyes*
Well, Satan must have told his Minions, I'll go up to that fair one there and see. If I get them to do the exact thing we did, which got us in this shit, who knows? Yahwey could forgive, if he forgives them, and why not? He shd be able to forgive us too, afterall He is a Merciful God right? then, we'll all go back to heaven, but if not, we'll take over the earth and rule it. I'll make all of you Kings of the Nations of Men. shey I promised you guys that you'all will be gods? Just watch.
* satan walks out with a regal gait towards Eden*

So satan rolled out his Schemes and smoothly presented himself to Eve, who had lived in Eden for God knows how long, and never saw an animal spoke with the human voice.
Man's problem actually started if u ask me, after the Fall. Becos God forgave Man for committing the same sin lucifer committed, (which is infringing on the sovereignty of God), but went further to even Curse the creature whose body satan borrowed. Hmm. For man, the earth was cursed instead of Man. For this stupid woman, God only pronounced a meagre Childbirth Pangs. As if that's not enough, He gave a prophecy that the seed of this same woman will crush his head? Haba.

From that day, since Satan can't reach God, he decide to drag Man, the so beloved of God to the same hell God created for him, by way of spitting God more.
This is my little theory.
So I believe Satan visited Eden only to pull Adam down with him or get restored back to glory.

As to how old the Earth is @Mayoall. I know how old Adam was before he died after he sinned, and I agree with the Bible on the 6000yrs span.
My ish is not how long Adam lived AFTER THE FALL. Am interested in before the FALL
My questions has been, Since Man didn't age untill THE FALL, what about the animals, were they also Ageless? Didn't the animals die?
If the Yrs Adam lived without Time tick tucking against him, couldn't that mean that Millions of Yrs Must have passed and the Mamoths and Dinosaurs Got extinct before the Fall.
I don't believe the Monsters were buried in the flood, because accoding to the scriptures, the clean animals Noah took in seven Pairs each, the unclean (even the Unclean were spared) were taken in by two pairs each.
This is just reasoning.
@Vooks pls help reason with me.

Hpaul what's the meaning of this naw? If you don't have to say just pray for ur profet.

I have misgivings when a man's test of mimistry is based largely on Miracles. He performs loftly miracles but anytime he speaks, he contradicts or shd I say blaspheme the scriptures? This guy actually likened the Trinity to the three unclean FROGS? And someone is here calling him a man of God? Really?
This man was a Muhammed of America. They come out always claiming Angels telling them unscriptural things which only them can verify.
His own Trinity, Mother Nature (his own Bible) Zodiac (second Bible) then. The great pyramid. A man who finds God in nature, just like the Christian scientists. And Grail Message.
Abeg Bible students, I need someone to tell me where any Apostle or Jesus Himself diagnosed a disease by the Vibration on his right hand in the Bible.

Ah. Worst part is, the guy has little or no knowledge of the scriptures.
This is TB Joshua of that generation.

. maybe after straffing the LovePeddler, he slept off to heaven.

O wait!!!!, that's when he saw the virgins and was told what to do to get them.

Another thing that suprises me is, Muhammed said he dreamed flying on a white winged Horse to Jerusalem, while there, he tied his horse on a pillar in the Temple which was already existing there. Later his follower, Omar, based on that dream went to Jerusalem to claim the portion of Land, build a Mosque on that Land. Muhammed tied his horse on a certain pillar in the Jewish ruined Temple, in HIS DREAM. Abeg wetin dey even happen here sef? And the whole world is saying the Jews shd give that land to the Muslims. What's going on?

Lol @OPs.

Vooks just took this out of my mouth.

"He wishes to go 'back' to the days Spirit spoke to men directly without books. This is how cults are brewed. I would not be surprised he was regurgitating what his MoG told him"

I asked myself that question, does he want to start his own religion? because if you religate the scriptures, you can as well come up with anything and put it on the spirit. Afterall, its not only the Holy Spirit that's a spirit.

See? Stuff like this has given us two different Angel Gabriels. One Announced the birth of the Son of God, the other one denys that that son is of God.

What will be the yardstick to measure ur claims? What premise are you now standing on to correct this contradictions?

A man in South Africa is listening to a spirit, thereby feeding his congregants with grass as communion, life snakess as chokolates and sperms as holy water. If the scriptures were the yardstick there, all that won't happen.
When I read ur post, the first thing that came to me was, "then what is the right thing to do, and since there R no scriptures to back up, how do we know its the right thing?"
@Vooks and the other friend has said it all.
I have a feeling ur Priest (because am not sure u r a pentecostal) most have said the exact thing in Mass and u feel its ok to down here. You shd ve paid more attention to get the scriptures he used, or didn't he use any?

I wish I understand what @Sarassin is saying. You lost me there.
You sound like a friend here, @4C2215131 are we on the same page here?
I have a feeling you guys are into other stuff other than Christ (?)

@Oyeledef.

Alongside Jesus Christ and Apst Paul, I believe in the LITERAL Adam. And I don't have a problem with Billions or Millions of Yrs old Earth. Although, the ungodly Scientist may want to present some materials that are superfluous, with the aim to mislead. I think the yrs they put to those Mamoths and Dinosaurs fosils are exaggerated. That said.

I asked a question. When God created the Earth, time and seasons, which were propelled by day and night, was they dead in the animal kingdom? Or were animals like man who wasn't aging until the Fall?.
The reason for this question is this. The years or how Old the Earth is according to the records gotten from the Bible, follows events starting from how long Adam lived down to you and I. But from Creation to wen Adam fell, we don't ve any record of time.
Can it be safe to say, the World had endured for millions of yrs, the animals have lived long, died and some got extinct before Adam fell?

Brother Oyeludef. Yes, I will read it.

Am studying chapter 1 right now.
Now, am here reasoning just like the author and some Bible scholars are speculating ( although, am neither a scholar or an author), that there probably was a Pre-Adamic Era which Adam wasn't part of till he was later created millions of yrs after the dinosaurs were extinct.
But am reasoning that, there wasn't a pre-Adamic world, why? Becos, am thinking that, when God created everything , he started with the firmaments, lights, which caused time and seasons. Animals, both in the sea and on land. Tress and all. Then Man in Eden, there was mornings and nights, yrs passing by.

We are not told how long Man lived in Eden before the Fall, that's because time wasn't counting on him. He was ageless. He was neither motal nor immotal.

Here I am reasoning, did that also pertained to the animals? I mean, the agelessness, Or were animals growing and aging and dying along side time and seasons? because if time was counting on animals and wasn't counting on man, shouldn't that tell us that man lived for millions of yrs before the Fall, Since the fosils of Mamoths and Dinosaurs dates back this long?
Still, reasoning. Sin trigered time, time trigered aging and and aging trigered. dead for and in Adam right?. But was it also applicable to the beast? Must it necessarily mean that, there was a World without Adam in it for Millions of Yrs before Adam was created?.
Still reasoning. We are told, that God created all these things but left the responsibility of naming them for Adam to do. Does it then mean that, Millions of yrs after these Beast had died and extinct, Adam was created, then he went on to give names to the animals he never knew?

As to satan seating on his throne and ruling the earth in that pre-Adamic creation. I also have issues with it. Why? Well, I reason that, from when Lucifer thought to also have his own throne and rule as God, he has been in that Business ever since Man was created. My thought is, Angels don't worship fellow Angels. So if Lucifer wants worship, it won't be from his fellow Angels. His target is Man. And since he got man to fall, he has been in that business receiving worship. If we shd agree with the scholars who say, Lucifer had his throne before man was created, my question will then be, who was he reigning over?
Man has been worshipping Satan in different forms shapes from the Fall. All the demons who Fell with him, are the gods of the nations, parading and Masqurading as the Most high, while in essence all those demons are subject to Satan and turning over the worship to him. Self worship for those who don't believe in dieties but themselves, is also satanic because that's what satan is doing. He doesn't believe in the Deity of Yahwey, so he worships himself.
Just reasoning. Pls reason with me.
This is how I read.
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