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@Kabir. Anas is the first. 4 letters of my name. You can call me Anny, Ann. Anas, Asia, Sta, stasia. These are all shorts for my name. You choose one.

@LexiconKabir.
Am a babe. But why do you think am a guy. Wow, this makes me feel tough.
Pishures are not allow on NL nah.

I will say he lacks wisdom, balance and purpose. Why? The Bible says, there's time for everything.
Am a christian, I pay tithe and offerings. When I was a student, I gave my offering as my hand could afford.
Tithe is not offering.
Tithe, you PAY. Its an obligation.
Offering you GIVE. Freely.

You pay tithe in return to what God has given to you to do e.g, a job or business or farm produce. You give a portion.
What is ur friend doing right now to generate income for him to be PAYING Tithe?
We have so many (so called) pastors today, who don't have any idea what this principles are and how they shd be applied. They are in the ministry for Tithes and offerings and they misguide people.
Pls, with love, tell him that Tithe you pay base on the income u make out of the business, salary or farming produce. He is a student, his allowance is not am income, neither is his school fees.

If he doesn't watch it, he will either have too many carryovers that'll affect his graduation or a good result. Without food, how can he read and understand biko?
Give him food, don't worry. Giving is good. If you become hash, you'll never get him to see reasons. Give him food wen he is full and in a good mood, raise the matter, in a good and calm disposition.

God is not wicked to collect his allowance and allow him starve nah. Which kind life!!!!.

Where Remi nah?
Johnnydon has answered you. So fire back. Him say him no believe in afterlife. Me I know sinceeeeee, say him no believe in afterlife.
*Puts hand inside the jar, collects pop corn* My pop corn is running out.

@rilwayne. Pls try being human once in a while. You are too serious. Its actually fun being a human being.

Tartar accused me of being gay, so I had to clear myself. Am not a man. Am a woman who is into men not women. Garrit?

Aaahhhhh. These JW guys sef.

Your religating the Holy Spirit to being just an active force, is your very undoing. Hence, you look at Scriptures and jump over them and hold unto the 'letter of the Word'.

2 Corinthians 3:6. Who also has made us able ministers of the new testament;not of the letter but of the SPIRIT; for the letter killed but the spirit giveth life.

As long as u look at the scriptures with ur carnal eyes and perceptions, you'll always see what you want to see, not what is there.
That said.

@Jesechah. I don't seem to grasp who you really are. Are you team MsJanet as in Atheist or team JW? And, I have some questions for you.

1.Do you believe that a man has body, soul and spirit?
2) Do you believe in after life?
3) At what point does man seizes to exist?
4) What does it mean to seize to exist?
5) WHERE does man seizes to exist?
Is it in the physical, material, mortal, concious state/realm or in the spirit realm?
6). Can you read Eccl 9:5 again? For the living KNOW that they shall die, but the dead know not anything, niether have they any more REWARD(in the land of the living) for the memory of them is long forgotten(by men, in the land of the living).

2003, I had a near death experience. If I had died then, nothing of me would ve remanind of me in the land of the living, even in my mother's Memory, I will be shadowy.
What this scripture is saying is that, When a man dies, his momery as partains to the land of the living terminates, he lies in a state of conciouslessness until he is called up again on the day of Resurrection.
Wen you are called forth, your memories springs back to life as at wen u left off. Eg, am typing this message with my phone in front of me. I know what am doing, where I am, and who I am. If an armed robber batches in here and shuts me, I'll die, my last memories will be what I'm doing now. If I die "dead to the world, seizes to exist as far as the material world is concerned, my age, sex will not change. The day I resurrect I'll know exactly who I was, what I was doing with whichbody I did what.
Wht do I need my body? because as a lady, there are sins only me lady can commit. The sin of Lasciviousness. (Wen I dress showing my body or pprivate parts with the intent of cuasing the opposit folk to lust, thereby fall into sin) I sin.
Have u wondered why humans needs to pick up their bodies to stand judgement? because everything we did, we did in our bodies. Or probably, you believe that spirits die?

@CANTICLES. You are holding unto the wicked will seize to exist, ignoring so many scriptures that clearly states that everyone will give account of how they lived their lives in the flesh. Even the words we speak jokingly, we shall account for them.
JW, what's the need for accountability if, after wards, no purnishement is metted out to the offender? Why are JW's not stealing, killing and doing untold wickedness, afterall, its anahiliation they'll face no prunishment? This is a lie from the pit of hell. Satan in the details.

And again I ask you, JW don't believ in the afterlife?
Be plain so that we know.

See, wen I meet Johnnydon22, I know he doesn't believe in afterlif, so I know what to expect. Let me know now, do u or do u not believe in after life?
What does 'for ever and ever' means to you?
Do you even believe in Jesus christ? Do you believe in redemption, atonement, and propitiation? If you do, why do you think christ died and went to hades?
You asked a question 'was christ a wicked man, to have gone to hell?'
Again, do u believe Christ broke the chains of eternal death and freed man? If yes where and how did he do it? While he was dead or while he was alive?


Did christ died and went to hell as a sinner or he had to die to access the realm , because thats where the power of dead is, just like he had to take up a body in other to also access the material realm (earth) where dead is eminent as a result of sin? Hence also be able to die to pay for that sin? Why wasn't Christ kept back from resurrecting?

@CANTICLES. Are you implying that Rev 20:14 means something else otherthan what it is saying? This guy.

Death and Hell/Hades shall be cast into the lake of fire.
What you shd ask is, what is death what is hell/Hades?

Are they men or spirits?
Who are those to be thrown into the lake of fire? Humans or spirits?

Let me use an allusion from the greek mytholy to explain this. Hades, is a man/spirit unders whose authority every dead is under or submits to. Hades is also the name of his kingdom, where he rules supreme.

Remember, Haddes, a name or a force controlling a territory. According to that same greek mythology, Hades was challenged for the first time when a force higher that him/it (believed to be Christ) broke through and carried out certain activities, which hades couldn't stop.

Now, if Hades, him/location is going to be judged based on the activities carried out in that location, what do u think will happen there? The Bible says, Hades will give up the souls from him/it. Can't you see that Hades, the man/force, controlling hades/location, will be the one cast into the part that burns eternally, thus, bringing to an end the activities in Hades/location?

You are clearly seeing scriptures, but are skipping here and there like a man standing on ants.
The spirit of arguement is the spirit of satan.
Enough said.

@Jjnr. Just kidding man. Don't take me seriously.

Why does everybody fink am a guy? Am a hot babe jare.

Its actually recently, I appreciate God (Yahwey) the more. He gave me the grace to be a Christian. I didn't know much Islam about until I joined NL and met people who know islam well. Since I dint know much, just read and observed. Listening to both sides, its obvious to me that am on the right Track. Islam is a scam.
Very serious questions are being asked here, all u muslims do is throw insults and derail the thread because u folk don't have answers.
Serious accusations have been levelled against ur prophet, you can't come up with any rebutals, instead, u insults and troll. Threaten as if u guys have monopoly to violence.
Its just a simple question I asked.
If Allah aka muuharmad is not lying and trying to hide something. Why not attach his mother's name after his own name? Why only Jesus? O wait!!! Its because if allah aka Muuharmad calls Jesus by his fathers name, he will be forced to tell stupid muslims that Jesus is the son of God, since he allah aka muuharmad, has already stated that Jesus is of a virgin birth.
Instead he likens Jesus to Adam. See brainlessness. Allah forgot that Adam didn't ve a father or mother.

Ok fine, Jesus is like Adam.

Iesa bin mirriam, Adamu bin WHO?

Since they r the same, then they shd be addressed the same manner.
If you (muslims) have allowed allah to eat up ur brains, sell ur kettles and buy some.

Anyways. Anus69 is not my moniker.
*scratches head, shakehead s and wonders how the muslims live with themselves with so much hate and bitterness * throws Tartar out, he's not worth the ponder* kontinus with the orange juice*

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Tartar. U don kill me with lafta. I be babe oo. Correct chic with two full tits.
Lwkmd.

This is for Jeromejnr

Here I stand
At the door
Of yor heart
For you to see I understand
That your heart
Is where you live...
Will you let me decorate it
With love?
Allow me
To throw open
The windows of your heart
And let the rooms be filled
Frgrance of joy.
I promise to dust it with tenderness
And protect it
From being broken.


Hahahahahahahahahahahhaha.
Abeg Jerome, na joke I joke ooo. No fear u hia.

Ah Jeromejnr. Really. Am all emotional, where have you been all my life? *takes tissue, cleans a tear, blows nose* starts a tune, O darling come cool my heart oo, oo darling come cool my heart oo.*

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Make una come hia oo. Sonoflucifer no belif say Lucifer exists. So who born u na?
Maybe na him be the lucifer by himself.
Abeg sonoflucifer aka Merlin, no kill me wif laf abeg.

Murmuring ke? Am laughing out loud.
Everytime u come out, you get severely beaten. Allah is satan. We know the spirit behind you. Spirit of lying and its of the devil/allah

@OPs. You are plagued with a very wrong crowd.
Ah, where do I start with U?

What u shd know first and foremost, is that, there they are Celestial and Terrestrial beings. Opereting in the spirit realm.
When God (Yahwey) ousted Satan out of heaven, he was ousted out with 2third of the Heavenly angels, now demons. Rev 12:7-9. Pls read it.
But what caused that war? Ezek. 28:12-19
The creation of lucifer sealed up the sum. He was full of Wisdom, he was perfect in beauty, all the precious stones were used to cloth him, he was the anionted cherub (arc-angel), he was an excellent musician, in his voice were all musical instruments. He was an awe-inspiring being. Among the Angels he was big bros, they practically adored him. seeing all of these, something Changed in him

Let's see wht happened. Isa 14:13
For thou have said in ur heart, I'll ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne ABOVE the stars(other Angels) of God. I'll sit also upon the mount of the congregation..., 14 I'll ascend above the heights of the clouds I'll be like the most high
Well, satan only looked at all that he was but forgot who made him who and what hw was, so for that arrogance, he was ousted out.
But remember he challenged the Most High. He wants to be worshipped as God. Fellow Angels won't worship him, who then will? YOU (man) hence, the deceit in Eden.

When man fell, the power he (man) had to control, dominate, subdue the earth was ceased by Satan the devil. Satan the devil with his minions of demons took over Man's territory. The air, the land and the waters. The Earth
They are there, you can't see them, but they are there. Satan deligated his demons to take over the air. The Bible calls them 'the (Prince of the powers of the Air). Every nation is watched over by these demons, wedgging war against any interfererance from a counter Power.
Daniel in Babylon (persia) served a God whose power countered, the Power of the demons over Persia, where Daniel was at the time.
God needed to get to daniel with the reguest Daniel made, so he sent an Angel whose duty is primarily to deliver messages. He can't engage in battle, that's not his jurisdiction. The demons knew him, and knew he won't fight back, so they detained him, Michael the Arch-Angel, the Angel in charge of War was sent to release Gabrial.
So, you see? Even where you are right now there are territorial demons, incharge of ur environment, they control the activities of that environment. If u are not in Christ, who they submit to, they totally control what happens to U.
They r also familiar spirits(demons attached to families) they know all abt ur family tree and history. For you to break free from their hold, you need Christ. You can't do it on ur own. Jesus bought u access by and with His Blood.
They control and manipulate activities in ur family.
Let me give U an E.g
There's a place where U can call up the spirit of a dead loved one to tell You who killed/her, and he/she will tell U, show U where his/her killers sat and negotiated the deal. You can call a living person up to give u info which he/she doesn't know in the physical realm. I mean the person is alive, maybe sick unto dead and u want to know who's responsible, incase u feel someone is responsible. The person will tell U and show you what the enemy is doing or about to do.
The spirit (familiar) doing that, is not the person in question, its a demon attached to him/her.
You get me?
Peace.

@Muttleylaff.
I have read from the beginning of this thread till now. I must say, you know your Onions. You Really have studies to show urself aproved to God, a workman...

But I lost you at the point u said, Jesus was an Angel? The Jw imply that because Angels are messangers and God sent Jesus, that makes them all Angels. No bro. You, right now is God's messanger, by virtue of this gospel you are propagating, but that doesn't make U an angel(celestial). Although, I can give you an angelic attributes depending on the role u play in my life.
E.g. A security guard in a bank, saved me from walking into the trap of armed rubbers cascading as Taxi driver and passengers. (ONE CHANCE). He recognised them, I didn't.
He was my angel that day. You get me? You are far more vast in this than I, but I know u understand what am saying.

@JohnW. you are my guy too, pls let it go. Go on with what you have been doing, you also kept me on this thread.

The JW in the house.
Bernimoore
Jessics
Truthislife
Dolphinheart. etc.
I just have one question. Why do u guys ignore clear scriptures abt God not calling any angel any day his Son, but rather pull out suggestive scriptures that implies and surggests that Jesus was an Angel?

Johnw has been posting those scriptures from the beginning of this thread, but none of you have touched it, why?

Instead of trying to convince us that what Heb 1:5-8, 13, is saying is not actually what it means, you guys just total ignore it.
What I see you guys doing here is, 'Post Hoc, 'Ergo Proper Hoc'. By saying, 'since Angels are messangers, and God sent Jesus with a message that invariably makes Jesus an Angel'. With all the glaring scriptures that says otherwise.

This point was where I fell out from JW. I wasn't really one anywahere, I just was at the treshhold, when I discovered they have an ish with the deity, Godhead, and divinity of Christ. I turned back from the door.

@Truthislife, you kept saying let scriptures lead us, but you ignore the ones staring you in the face. What with u guys?

Thanks so much @Johnny. Oh yea? I didn't know that. I was wondering why his thread is ever there. Thanks again for the info.
This is how you know mature minds.

@Frank317. That's really uncalled for.
You are a bad teacher.

Thanks @Ifeness.
Am getting to understand certain things.

Very funny @Chuna. We are not competing with Satan and Satanists.

@btoks

We are not here talking abt those who say the story of Jesus is a myth. We are talking abt the idolatry of the catholic religion.
If they say the the story of Jesa Myth, its because they haven't encountered Him first hand. I have. He reveals things to me in my dreams before they happen. E.g sunday night breaking monday morning. I had a dream, two guys tricked me into their car, wen we got to where I shd stop, they passed, they dropped me where I didn't know, I got lost trying to find my way home, later I saw those two guys pretending to be lost with me. I woke from that dream knowing, I needed to be careful, I was going to fall into wrong hands. I prayed, and went out. While coming out of the bank in the afternoon, A car just swapped in front of me, with three guys inside, the one at the back opened the door so fast for me to enter, the bank security guard shouted behind me "Don't enter that car" the authority in his voice stattled me, very quickly the car zoomed off. When I asked why he said I shdnt enter the car, he told me it was one chance. Then I remember the dream I had just that morning. I can only imagine what those guys would ve done to me.

So you see? Wen I pray, I pray to him who lives, and answers prayers. If he is myth to them, that's find by them.

Lol, so because Angel Gabrail says all generations will call mary blessed, that inveriably means all generation will pray to God through Mary? And what abt the saints?
Pls sir I need u to teach me something. What is the definition of idolatry?
And when God commanded his followers in Deut. 4:15- 16, not to make any images of any kind, I guess He wasn't being serious?
Very fuNny. Since Jesus is the King, his Mother becomes the Queen? These guys will go to any length to justify their idol worship

@Uben. It will suffice me, if u can give me a scripture that mandates the priest, me or anyone else outside Jesus, to be a mediator. Maybe my understanding of mediator is limited.
What do u mean by me "sharing in the office of Christ?) I am a joined heir with him by virture of my accepting his love. That doesn't mean, I become a mediator. I can't share his Godhead position or office.
The diff. Between u and I is that, I don't wait for my pastor to tell me everything, and I don't believe everything am told. I have diff translation of the Bible. I spend time to read it for myself.
So you actually said, image worship is a christian practice from the days of the Apostles?@Uben. U are beginning to sound desperate to me.
Imagine u bringing up the very arogance of King Nebuchadnezzar, who exualted and put himslef in the place of God, giving glory to himself rather than to God, calling himslf King of kings. Maybe u shd be reminded what happened to him after that. This is lame man. I expect more from you.
The Queen of Heaven is a demon, if u brought the King of Kings to justify ur worship of Queen of Heaven, then, I give up on you. Wow.

I joined this Forum January this year 2015. And since then, I have observed that threads are being moved back and forth. shuffling old and new threads, But Merlin's thread (How he became a Satanist) has never left the front page, WHY?

@ Yazach.
@Medicis just stuck ur tail in-between your tiny legs for you.

You see, you can twist the truth, try to suppress it, but u can't kill it. Truth is light, Truth is time. Its there. Ever present. Deny it, to ur peril.

@Medicis, just poured out everything you need to know about Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Hey Wait!!!!, was it Jesus of Nazareth you were talkg about or Jesus of allah? Oh sorry sir, they r not the same. Jesus of allah was an Arab, but Jesus of Nazareth is a Jew. The very Jews U muslims hate so much for no reason.
That Jewish Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the one @Medicis gloriously expounded to you.

Thank you @Medicis for stutting these goons up.

@ Uben.
You know as well I do, that every idea is first concieved by one man, who nurtures it, then sells it to his audience.
The Idea of Mary (The Queen of Heaven) being venerated beyond what she is or was, started in the mind of someone. Praying to her and the Saints, instead of Christ as the only MEDIATOR between God and Man (1Tim 2:5).
I hope you know who the Queen of heaven is, according to Jeremiah 7:16-18

The idolatry in the Catholic religion started in the mind of a man, just like Charles Tass Russel, who sat down in a corner of his room and took justice away from God, thereby concieving the idea that God is too loving to purnish the wicked by letting them go to WHERE they choose to go(hell fire). It made sense to him, he then sold it to his audience, what do we ve today in that regard? JW.
What about Joseph Smith? What abt Muharmad of Arabia? It starts with one man.
So @ Uben, the name the man who thought it wise to replace the names or Biblical characters with the Greek and Roman deities,and then showcased them as mediators instead of Christ, may not ve been documented for the world to see, but we know it all started with a man concieving that idol ridden Religion, then selling it to the then power drunken men who wanted to rule the whole world.

They were not Christians and are still not.

For he that is called of God, speaketh the word of God. Not the traditions of the CHURCH. For 'even if an Angel from heaven comes and preaches a different Gospel from the one we have preached to you, let him be Accursed'

@Ubenedictus.
Mehnnnn, really good to see u.
My dear, Bills to pay, we can't afford to be here all the time. Just stealing time once in a while to see what my Christian folk are up to.
Sup with you man?

I don't know which hall that thread is right now, and no time to swim through searching for it.

From the mist of the Christian folk, this False teacher who concieved the very idea of fusing paganism into Christianity rose, just as Christ and Apostle Paul warned.
As far as am concerned, Catholicism is an independent religion outside christianity.

The Catholic Religion.

It took a single individual to think and Orchestrate what we now have as Catholicism. Infusion of Paganism with Christianity. All the Greek gods and goddessess, the roman deities, all replaced with biblical names. To make them seem right and christian. The rituals performed for them then, are still being performed by the Catholics today. You won't get any clue if u r just a let's go, let's go Catholic. They blatantly religate the scriptures and replaced them with the traditions of men.

Let's agree with them for a moment that they are Christians, as they claim.
They do not see the Roman as Christian Converts, they see them as the originators of Christianity.

And I ask again, are they categority stating that Christ was a Catholic, and all the apostles, were also Catholics? Those Asian churches Christ talked abt in Reveltion, were they Catholic churches.

Maybe, just like Muslims say, Adam, cain, abel, Abraham, moses, elijah all the Patriarchs were all Muslims. So also these men were Catholics.
Where did they get all the relics they use in worship in their Church? because those are not in the scriptures.

Sorry dear Rilwayne001, I forgot.

Is it true that your prophet drove a while flying horse to heaven?


Pls, I need clarification here. Did muharmard fly to heaven bodily? Or died and resuurected, then flew his horse to Jerusalem, then to heaven, or he died, was buried and a Mosque is built on his grave Saudi Arabia?

Ah, I don't have any intention of derailing this thread, abeg, una sorry.

@Rilwayne001

Don't mind Parishbookaddict. She's just jealous of ur prophets beautiful flying Horse.

Now address the OP.

I can't believe after reading through all these, someone can still find time to argue. Now is time for sober reflection.
Our pastors are seriously lacking, and our churches are filled with false converts. No wonder they can go to church on sunday, but come on NL to bash the same God they supposely went to worship. No true conviction.
Oh, God, My Friends are Dying.

Thank you very much Ola.
For whatever reason, I woke up this morning not feeling really Up, but God brought this message to me. Am so happy I read this.
Pls if u can, send me a PDF to me analicendum@gmail.com
I'll use it for my broadcast evengelism. Thank you.

Ifeness, just get a life.

Ok, I think you should go back to who told u you had a spirit wife. Ask him/her ur wife's name. Ask what kind of spirit she is. Water, forest or desert spirit. When furnished with this info, get a table, cover it with a white cloth, put raw a native egg on a saucer, place it on top of the table. Get a white enamel bowl, fill it with water, place it under the table. Hang a mirrow on top of the table. Hang it in a way u can see the egg. Use white Chalk and draw a straight line in the middle of the mirror.
At 12 mid night,t every night, stand naked in front of the table, facing the mirror, call her name seven times. Make sure u refere to her as ur wife. Tell u r ready to wed her. Can u sing? The spirits like songs, sing praises to her.
After the first seven nights, prepare a feast for her family. Buy Fanta, boild eggs,(make sure they r native), add whilt chalk, buy carbin biscuit, very ripe bananna, by 12mid night, go and drop them by the Ocean or sea. Go back to the mirror and call her again. Make sure u tell us how it went.
Good luck my friend and happy married life.

@ Johnnydon22.
Am sorry to hear u got lucked out because I called U out. Aww. Am really sorry, but I can see U r up and running again.

I thought we were here to talk abt hope, love and what again? How come pastor Christ took over the centre stage?
Back to base now.