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God is not slow, as men count slowness. If God were to be as fast as we want him to be, as someone said "none of us will be living today" do u know how many pple wish and pray for U to die. Some even go to the extend of taking steps to kill U.

Thanks Ops for this reminder. My best part is, "when ur enemy is hungry, feed him". how many of us can do this?
You are a sinner, not even sorry abt ur life style, yet God loves u enough to still allow ur heart to pump blood, ur brian to be without a Tumour, no liver cancer, meanwhile u smoke like a chimney. No HIV meanwhile u r a LovePeddler, male/female. No mouth cancer, meanwhile u are perverting sex with ur mouth.
Yet someone just hurts you alil, U want him dead right away, and when God looks at ur own sin, and let's the person be, waiting for repentance, u flip and call God slow. Wow.

I Am for Good.

He was and is still a giver.
He gave love, he says we shd love our neighbours as we love ourselves
He gave health.
He gave life
He healed the blind, lame, issue of blood.
Raised the dead.
He rescued from dead.
He feed the poor.
He is gentle and preaches gentleness.
He is good, he says we shd be good to others.
He forgives, he says we shd forgive
He says we shd always give to others in need.
In giving, he gave ALL, he gave his life.
What's so wrong in what he ever did? Let's hear from you.
Why are you angry at Him? Be sincere.

I read my Bible everyday, atleast I try to. I try to find the evil or negatives in Jesus that could attrack the kind of vibes we get from people against him. But I don't seem to see any. Is it because I love him that's why I can't see? The same Bible says love covereth Multitude of sin.could that be it?
When I read from the Bible, I see the teachings of Jesus that if I try to adhere to, I'll be at peace and in love with others.
Please, I will want us Naira Landers to list out the attributes of Jesus base on his teachings. Good and bad attributes.
If you are for bad, list out his bad attributes, if you are for good list out his good attributes. Maybe at the end, I can understand why people hate Jesus.
Shalom.

@hahn.
We are not taking up the culture and beliifs of the colonial masters. Tell urself the truth. Jesus wasn't a european, neither was he American. Jesus was a Jew, and he(Jesus) did not teach his followers the Jewish Culture. Jesus called it Traditions of men, and he condemned such practices.
The Europeans and Americans also heard this gospel once, received it, and brought it to us, as it was once taken to them. So let's stop this colonial master's religion thing.
When you guys go on and on with this attacks on Jesus, sometimes, I pause to really check what is so wrong about this Jesus and his teachings that makes people hate him.
Is it the peace, love, forgiveness, patience, tolerance, goodness, giving to others that he preaches that makes him bad?

The Atheist are just hunted that's all. There's no God, they scream to the high heavens everyday. But they are here every minute.
We, the believers in God are illiterate, backward, delusional and all-what-not. Find, we agree. Now move along and enjoy your life without God.
If this wasn't a religion section, and we r here going on and on about our God, it would seemed insane, but this is a religion section. Even Seun who himself is an Atheist, thought it wise to give us this platform to go on and on abt our God. So why are we accused of throwing our God on the Faces of Athiests?
All the NL Atheists, go in peace, enjoy ur life. Someone said, he is the master and the determiner of his destiny, fine. Go on and enjoy. Just live us alone with our delusion.

As a christian there shd be no lying, whatsoever.
Telling the Truth no matter what can get u killed or make enemies for U. E.g
I was admitted onece. A cousin came to visit, her boyfriend was a medical Doctor living very close to the hospital.
She just left my ward when another of her boy friend came in from Lagos to see her, but didn't know our house's address (no phones then) he heard I was in the hospital and came to see me and get our address, but his chic just left me.

He just came in for a very urgent bizness and was living back almost immediately.
I have never been in that kind of a fix before.
What shd I ve done? Lie and tell him I didn't know where my cousin was?
Give him our house address wen I knew my cousin was at the time living with her guy?
Tell him where to find my cousin?
So I decided to tell the truth and face my cousins wrath. I told him where to fine her. You shd know what happened next. My cousin hated me. I was lucky to be on admission because she shd ve beaten the living day light outa me.
But that's the life of a Christian, you do the right thing no matter what.
ITS HARD.

Like Malvis said. Dropping an old nature and picking up a new one is not easy. Especially in the kind of world we r living in today, where the society stifles the efforts of true believers.
Let me give u an example.
Am a believer, I get a contract, the project manager inflates my quotation to make money for himself. Everybody around says, mind ur bizness, these things are done everywhere, even some oga's at the top does it. So I keep quite, but later I tell my pastor abt it, he shouts "compromise" and I had to make it right, I go to the management to report myself, I get fired. My contract terminated.
Do u think another christian by the side will do what I did? But I'll do it again. This time, I'll rather not have that contract than let anyone tamper with it.
To follow christ is to turn away from the society, but u live in the society. SO IT's HARD.
Christ didn't promise a smooth ride, He promised a smooth landing.

Kabir and demmy.
Maybe do not realise that somany. Folk are following this thread. You are not doing a good job explaining things to form folk with questions.
The thread is not about fathers testing their daughters viginities, its about the compartibility of paganism and Islam.
Simply answer the question and get it done with.
The allah Mutalab (Muhammads grand father) worshipped and named his son abdullai (muhammad's father) after, which interstingly means, servant of allah. Have the same name and the same mode of worship WHY? What is the diff betwn that allah and todays allah.
Interestingly too. Ramadan was celebrated in the pre-islamic days. The circling of the stone, stoning of that devil. Everything the same WHY?

Read romans chapter 7:1-25.
He has the Nature of sin in him. He needs the nature of christ to replace the old nature.
Apostle Paul said, he liked to do good, but any time he ventured to do good, he found himself doing bad, then he discovered that there was a law of sin and death (nature) in him that was oppose to the new nature of Christ. Working to bring up sin which eventually will result to dead
The answer is in verse 25 of that chapter.
Wen u subject urself to the holy spirit u'll over come. Satan hates u so he wants to keep u doing things that'll push u further from God.
Peace.

We enjoined to look for the signs not the date.
One of the signs. The increase in knowledge.
The falling away. Europe is almost all Atheists.
Fierce persecution.
Pervertion of the gospel. People trying to replace the gospel of Christ with another gospel.
Scarcity of sound doctrine.
Increase in immorality.
People will prefer lies, instead of the truth.
Plagues, incurable deseases.
Natural disasters.
And Most of all, the activities surrounding the Nation of Israel.
Are all these being fulfilled? Funny enough, like someone said, the Anti-christ knows, Obama knows, beyoncy, Rihana, Jz, they all know that the time is near. Only christians don't. SAD.
This matter wey we dey talk small small, go blow for our face one day. Strangely enough, even if u go don die dat time, u go come back to life, with the same body wey u use allow a fellow man straff ur yansh, dat mouth u use lie, dat hand u use thief. Everything. We go stand answer. We go remember today wey we dey talk am but some paople dey call us stupid. Dat day go come. The anti-christ is very ready to start his final work, but he will wait for us to go first.

@Yazach.
You are here again exposing ur mediocrity
Who is the father of is Jesus? instead of u guys answering the question, you threw a stupid one back.
You are asked, if the circumstancies sorrounding Jesus' birth are the same with that of Adam, WHO IS ADAM's MOTHER?.
And why is only Jesus in the entire world's history is named after his mother?
Answer that and stop fooling urselves.

Heaven on Earth bro.

Allah created Adam from dust, Jesus was also created from dust?

That's ur opinion

And the link?

I just ve alil problem.
Adam and Moses having a conversation? Like seriously? Moses used a Time Machine to teleport back to Adams time to have a discussion with him?
A generation is 100yrs. How many generations spanned from adam to Abraham? From Abraham to Moses how many generations? Like I said, except am sick in my head, No one shd have the temerity to tell me that the koran is accurate and True. That book is full of shit and intelligent people just accept it.

Mose having a conversation with Adam is like me in 2015 having a conversation with Alexandert the Great.

I keep hearing Muslims refer to Jesus as Jesus son of Mary. But Every child must have a father. Actually, a child is 100percent his father's, why is that different with Jesus?
The Muslims say Jesus is not who we christians claim He is, so who is Jesus' father?
Why are other Prophets in the koran not called after their mothers like jesus?
For e.g muhammad bin Amina? Why only Jesus bin Mariam?
Is allah hiding something?

@Ubenedictus.
If u call me a liar, I shd expect that you will tell the Truth.
I hope you know that Easten Orthodox is not Catholic?
You know ur history very well. I asked you, wen was the Catholic Church birthed? I mentioned Emperor Constantin. He birthed the RCC, and which century was that again?
Are you saying the christians who were being fed to Lions in the Roman Colosium, were Catholics. The Christians Emperior Nero killed were also Catholics?
This is a Classic resemblance between Catholicism and Islam. They claim all the Jews were Muslims, Abraham, David, Jesus, all the apostle, Except Apostle Paul, were all Muslims. Yet Islam was birthed 6century AD. 6ooyrs after the last Apostle had died.
Oh dear.
I asked u, do you consider the Apostles and the Asian churches, and the Easten orthodox, Catholics? because the Church was alive and vibrant, though christians were being killed the way they are being killed now by Muslims, yet the Church was alive, until it was made a State religion by the emperor and given the RC name. Then the downward thrust started.
I asked you, why did the Catholic church stayed up in Rome from 4th to the 16century before spreading?
Which century did Luther take Germany away from Catholicism?
What century did King Henry viii take England away from Rome? And what century did Calvin take Switzerland from Rome? Do you also know howmany protestants were burnt at the stake alongside Calvin for trying to translate the Bible into the language that his countrymen could read and understand?

Why was it important for the Bible to be locked up in the Latin Language? Why was the Catholic church against other languages having the Bible being translated to? was it because the Papacy wanted to control and conceal the truth? Was it because they wanted to be the only ones to read and tell the people only what they wanted the people to know?

U asked me how I could tell if Father Mbaka wrote that piece. A devote Catholic sent it to me. If he intended to exault Mbaka, I don't know. If that piece was written long before Mbaka was born, and it has Mbaka's name on it, then it goes to say, Mbaka is an intellectual thief. To plagiarise another persons work and put his name on it. Its stealing. He is not better than Muhammad of Arabia.
Lol. An holy spirit inspired piece. Lol again. O Well, if you don't know the holy spirit, how will you know His Modus Operandi?
Telling people to do something, but laying curses on them if they fail to do it? Can u find freewill in any of that shit?
Ubenedictus you fall my hand.

Wow this girl almost got my ribs cracked. She's crazy, but very true. Its easy if u ve never been there than to be there and cut off.

(My bro,pls wen u want to type anything always write the truth,don't come and brainshwash the gullible ones here!Jesus ws never prepared to laid his lives,first he told his desciples to get a sword,then he positions them in a proper places to protect him,then he go pray to God,and he prayed so hardly that the bible says his sweat ws like blood!!,luke 22 he ws never prepared to give his life!,he never did!,its amazing hw much u claim the holy spirit,but come here and write opposite of wats in ur bible,its very amazing
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Lol, this guy. @adewalker.
Here we go...
John 10:17-18. Therefore doth my father love me! Bcso I lay down my life, that I might take it up again. 18- no man taketh it from me, but I lay it down MYSELF, for I HAVE THE POWER TO LAY it down and to take it up again.
See? You couldn't kill him even if u wanted to . He said to Pilate, my kingdom is not of this world...
I guess you r a Muslim. You are mad because Jesus is what muhammad could never ever be even if he tried to.
And, am not a Bro, am a Sis. A babe, a chic with a T.

@pucci.
How I knew that Jesus died for my Sins?
Hmmm. Where do I start?
There was time I never knew fornication was a sin. You know how a chic who feels she's cute gets flunked by all the cute and rich guys, they tell u all the stupid things u want to hear? I did all, freely. Lie was never even thought as a sin. I call people names easily. Foul and obscened language flew out of my mouth freely. AND I never even knew that these things were wrong, yet I never missed mass.

God by himself started showing me things in my dreams. I'll see them before they happen. I never said anything to anyone at first, I was scared. Until I saw my own death, I still did nothing, I didn't know I had to do something. Then it happened. I actually had an accident and died, but God didn't let me go. I entered my body back. With a very bad fracture, I faced either amputation or die of Gangarine, I cried out to God, I never really knew to help me. My life was saved, my leg is save.
Then the search started. I wanted to know him by myself for myself. Why did u save me? I asked, I didn't deserve it.
Later I bcome confusedand angry why he will even allow it to happen in the first place.
Wen the Atheist ask their silly questions, I laf, because I asked many more.
Funny enough, I almost fell off the wagon again, because haven read the Bible, I found salvation too cheap. JW almost got me, the a Christian Science that one was another matter altogether. The Easten Religion, Tibetian stuff, I liked that one. Its strong and within reach. Tuesday Lopsamrampad that one, I almost did astral travel by myself.
I guess Jesus was jus watching me and Saying stupid, stupid Child. What convinced me abt Jesus?
All These religions a common factor, they all have a way of leaning on Jewduo-christian Concepts. Bt twist it wen wen it came to Christ
The catholics, the Jw, the Mormons, I still have their Bible, Tibetians, islam. Budha, all of them. That's where I asked WHY? Why do they have issues with The diety of Christ? That was wen I went into character study of Christ. There, I found it. Satan can not accept, can not identify or recognise Christ as head over him, so he fights to twist the concept.
God himelf thought me. I wanted to know more abt Jesus. I was reading historical materials partaining to the Empires and emperors. JW's materials helped a great deal, AWAKE. I had so many of their materials. Until one day, I had to actually watch a miracle in Total experience 1999. That's was God clearly. So pls. I know that christ died for me
Today. If a call u a fool a get stap inside of me. Today, I can live a chased life. No sex. No lying to the best of my ability. Those things I freely did, I do them no more freely. If I slip and fall, I get chastised.

Am humbled.

This is from ur Father Mbaka, does what he wrote below depict a man who has the direction of the holy spirit in him? This is how to represent Christ, and prepare a spotless and unblemish church as a bride of christ?

Message from Rev. Fr. Mbaka.

I hear you my child
HOLY, HOLY, HOLY. WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

This prayer has been sent to bring good luck. The original copy was from England. It has been around the world. The luck has been sent to you.

You will receive a good luck within four days on receiving this message provided that you send it out. This is not a joke.

You will receive good luck in this mail. Send no money, as it has no price. Do not keep this message. It must leave your hand within 96 hours (4 days).

A royal Air Force Officer received £31,000.00. Joe Wallen received £7,000.00 and lost it because he broke the chain. While in the Philippines, Gonnonluch lost his wife 6 days after receiving the message. He failed to circulate the message.

However, before his death he received $7,775,000.00 (seven million seven hundred and seventy five thousand dollars).

Please send 20 messages and see what will happen in four days. This chain came from Venezuela, Saint Anthony De Coup. A missionary and an American said the message must tour the world.

You must send it to 20 friends and associates. Do note the following:

1. Caustino Deis received the chain in 1955. He asked his secretary to make 20 copies and send them. In few days, he won a lottery of two billion dollars.

2. Carlos Dowell, an officer, received the message and forgot it. It had to leave his hand within 90 hours, he lost his job. Later after he found the message again, he mailed 20 copies. A few days later, he got a better job.

3. Dollar Laggard received this letter and not believing it, he threw it away. 12 days later he died.

4. In 1987, the letter came to a young woman in California; it was faint and barely readable. She promised herself that she would retype the letter and send it out; she put it aside to do it later. She was plagued with various problems including expensive car repairs. The letter did not leave her hand in 96 hours (4 days). However, she finally typed the letter as promised and mailed copies and she bought a new car.

5. George Bush received the letter 2 days before Nov 3 1993. He sent out 20 copies and 3 days later he inherited his uncle's Perlal Tesirossa.

Remember, send no money,and do not ignore this message because it works.

You must make sure that you don't break this chain. Send 20 copies to friends and relatives. I wish you good luck.

From Rev. Fr. Mbaka

@macof.
I don't hate her. I hate the lies, and deception and somuch pretence and cover ups. If Christianity remained in the hands of the Catholic Church the way it was intended, christianity would ve been long dead just like its dead in Europe the centre of Catholicism.
Look around you, if not for protestanism, the church wouldn't ve moved out of Europe. Protestants in the bit to escape from the persecution of ur mother Church spread christianity, and in other to stamp and quell them out, Catholicism armed with so much money, power, number ran out ahead, and made it look like they were interested in Mission work, while all the while, they were fighting for conquest of territory.
The Catholic church started in the 4thcentury AD, why did they wait until the 16centuryAD before they started spreading by way of missions?
I was raised a catholic, I was just like u, u dare not say anything abt her, but wen the time came, questions started popping
Up from my mind.
The breaking point came wen I discovered that a friend whom I was desiring to be as devoted as she was, was dating not one but two friend fathers at the same time. In order to keep her secret, she tried to induct me into the act. What non-sense. With all the men in the world, a priest? And she told me,"they are men just like every man, but even better, because they will make u rich" nonsensicality of rascality. And she was a big chic on campus.

Look around, any Catholic that seems to be serious abt Christ, has elemets of Pentecostalism in him/her. They ran along to bring Charismaticism into the Church because their sons and daughters were all running off.
See, my dear Macof, anytime U guys want to compare the Papacy with Pentecostals just know that, all the Pentecostals put together can't commit the crimes that the papacy has committed in one lifetime.
Wen it comes to Averies, materialism and greed, the Pentecostals are toddlers as compared to the papacy.
humility is not in the way a man walks, its in the way he talks, responds and reacts to issues. Are you alive? Do you follow up with what this Pope has been saying since he bcame Pope?
I won't be supprised if he jumps up one of these days to say, Jesus is not the Son of God.
Enough said.

I didn't want to comment, But I just have some questions to ask @macof
When you Say "Without the Catholic church Christiandom won't have the Bible" do u really know what u r saying? because the last time I checked, the Catholic fought seriously to keep the Bible under Lock and key, far away from the world. They succeeded for 15centuries.
I know that when ur priest lie to you, they don't tell you what really caused the reformation, or better still protest(protestanism)
Pls do a research why Martin Luther protested. He was a Catholic Preist. A devoted priest. He was posted to head a parish, while there as the head, he had access to a chest which was out of bound for everybody, there, old manuscripts were kept. Out of Curiosity, he opened it, amongst other books, were Biblical scrolls. He started reading, the priest was shocked to find that all he was preaching were against the Bible. He took it to the assistant priest, that one reported him to the Bishop ahead of them. That's where it all started, from that day, Martin couldn't be stopped, he found the truth and everybody must hear abt it. Do you wants us to talk abt how many people were burnt alive because they read the bible for themselves? Do you know that once upon a time, in the medieval when the Catholic ruled the known world, it was a capital crime purnisable by dead, to be found reading a bible? Or to even claim to be used by God, outside of what they Catholic Church says? Who knows Juan De Arc?, in France, during the French revolution against Great britian? how did she die?
The Catholic church wanted to run the church without the Bible.
Pls folk look for this book, Universe in Conflict" by Ellen G white and read it, its all there, facts and figures. Date and time.
The evil satanic replacement in catholic.
And wen u said without the Catholic church we won't have the Bible, do u imply that the Apostles were Catholics?

Do you know when the Catholic church began?
Do u know that the last Apostle died four hundred years before the Catholic church was birthed by Emperor Constantin?
So who wrote the Bible? Catholic Priests?

And who said Peter is the head of the Church? Peter was never even in Rome.
Canal people don't understand scriptures, so they build doctrines and dogmas on assumptions.
Let's look at the scrpture again.
Matt16:13-19 (Paraphrased)
And Jesus asked His disciples saying, Who do men say I am?
Some said, they say u r the prophet, some say John the Baptist,and others Jeremiah.
Jesus turned and said to them, But who do YOU say I am? ( You go everywhere with me, see all the miracles done, u sleep where I sleep, eat what I eat. WHAT and WHO do YOU say I AM)
There were all quite. But Peter spoke up and said " You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.
Jesus answered and said to him,flesh and blood had not REVEALED this to you
Jesus answered and said, you are peter, and upon this rock (which ROCK?) I build my Church... Why didn't jesus say, upon you Peter the Rock, why did he say, upon THis rock, again which rock?
Was it on peter the Church is to be built or on the Revelation Peter had of who Christ is?
It is that revelation that keeps christians even wen they r threatened with death.
@macof, if you say, base on Jesus' statement Peter automatically bcoms the head of the Church, then we shd follow that line of thought and call Peter Satan, because, if u look down at ves 23, Jesus called Peter Satan.
Dude, get the Holy Spirit, he'll teach U stuff. Jesus looks beyond U.
Peter was niether the Rock upon which the Church was built or was he satan.
The catholic Church tried by all means to kick the holy spirit out of his own church. Sorry, u can't trunkate him, he will find a willing vesel.
Again, THE POPE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN, he is CATHOLIC.

I have read through page 1 to 7. I have not seen one Atheist, only Jehovah haters. because, the so called Atheist even back other gods against the Abrahamic God. Pls try to as urselves why that is.

God is God, whether he is good or bad. Just like someone said, "A Painting has a painter, whether its a good or bad painting".
But wen you begin to count the evils of God then on that Premise you say there's no God, that makes you a FOOL.

If there's no God, then there's no God. That shd be it. Move along.

It seems we choke you with our God talk because you are always here. You won't be choked if u confind urself to the Science section. There's no God, but U won't leave the Religion section, what are u guys scared of?

I watched a Movie "The Book Thieve" Death's perspective, its own side of the story. Death is always near looking for whom to kill, yet Death confesses that it is HUNTED by Man.
In this case u are like Death and the Christians(I will not say the religious, because u guys don't ve any ish with other gods), are like MAN. You have all the power, and proves, yet you guys are so hunted by us, that whereever we gather to talk abt our God, you are there. A clear case of when Sons of God gathered, Satan also came.

@yazach.
You know for sure that ur god is false yet u still follow? If not, address the Ops.
Don't bring that tactics to derail it. Why will allah be talking abt dead, resurrection and judgement when sin, which brought death has not been committed yet?

Why did allah, after telling everyone to bowdown to him alone, turn around to command angels to bowdown to worship Adam? Why did he purnish satan for bowing down only to allah, but not to adam?
Answer and stop being stupid.

@Ops.
The little you wrote,indicates you are very bright and smart. When somebody makes an assertion, as a smart guy, what do u do? You think.
How can christ be a Christian when his followers were refered to as Christians wen he had already left back to heaven?

NOTE: they(followers of Christ) weren't called christians because they needed to be identified as such in a good way, they were so called to stigmatise and revile them. That said, Christ didn't start a religion, men, moved by greed and the already laid down traditions turned it to what it is today.
Beside, in the word "Christianity" there's Christ. We follow him and try to do what he did while on earth.
AND, we are not Christians because our Parents are Christians. Maybe you are new in NL. Somany NLanders are pastors Deacons, church Leaders/elders childrend are Atheist. that's to say, you grow up to choose ur path. A Muslim can say that because that's how it is in islam so they assume that's what optains in christianity. But no.
You are not born a Christian, you become a Christian, that's why there's need to be born again, then get baptised(initiated) into christ. And you can't be born again without understanding why christ was nailed to the cross. Even you @OPs, if you have known why Christ hung on the cross, you won't sound the way U sound.
Nobody killed Christ, you couldn't even if you wanted to. He handed over himself to be killed, because without that His mission will be futile. His blood needed to be shed as an exchange, Ransome, price, payment, call it what ever. But untill u know why he did that, you are not yet a christian.
Nicodemus asked Jesus, how that could be possible. Its not done as a child. So please seek knowledge, you are very smart, so seek knowledge.

(Let's not exchange words with these guys. All we do is to pray for them. Be it atheists, Muslims or whatever, 2nd Corinth 4:4 is at work in their lives. We need to pray. Some have a spirit of error in them, some it is spirit of corrupt knowledge. These spirits move them all over nairaland looking for any thread where Our Lord Jesus is preached and when they get there, they instigate anger, hatred and vain arguments. Pray for them. Thanks)

Thanks @judeodion.
That's exactly it. What we shd know is that satan has his seeds. And christ says, let them grow together side by side. So we shd not always be supprise when we see these seeds amongst us. There's a reson satan stole in and fixed them amongst us.
Now, this is what convinces me that jesus is true. Everything he said, a being fulfilled before my very eyes. Imagine how this satanic seeds are everywhere christ is mention trying to cause confusion. We shd know that they are fulfilling scriptures, but they may think they are having an upper hand. Jesus says he who endures to the end shall be saved. This statement indicates that there's an end. Meaning on the way to the end, some shall fall off, but we keep at it, it is at the end that we receive the trophy, both us and them.
God bless and honour bro winner.

Hmmmm. Hypocrisy.
The Catholic Pope is not even a Christian.

Yes I do not subscribe to the way Prosperity is being pushed forward in the sermons in SOME of the Pentecostal churches. Truth is, Christ is not against properity. Its a means to an end, not an end itself.
But when you stand to point at another, but forget that ur backside is turned to another, and we can see ur own backside. Maybe you shd go back to the medieval History, wen the Catholic ruled the world and see the way the C.H taxed people and enriched the Papacy. Even today it hasn't changed.
Creflo Dollar has jets, Oyedepo has Jets, everybody know abt them. Some condemn, some don't, but its clear. But vear into Catholicism and see, cover ups, deceptions, lies. They have much more of those things in pseudonyms. The walk humble before men, but proud and arrogant to God.
The CH still tax their people for Money for the papacy today. At least the Pencostal solicit for the money, and willingly people give, if they mismanage Gods money, they'll indeed pay. But for you to stand here and paint Pope (anti-Christ)Francis as a saint, its like a Gang leader, an highway Robber in the Capacity of Muhammad of Arabia shouting and screaming aganst a nieghbourhood petty smalltime thief.
The Problem the Body of Christ is facing Today is caused by the Catholic church. She veared from what Christ preached and died for, and sought to establish the doctrines of men rather than Christ's. Who send them to do what they r doing today? Christ? No sir.
At least, the pentecostals preach the Bible, some are greedy, yes, but neverithe-less preach the Bible. The Catholic formed another religion. Preaching a different gospel from the one that was preached before. The bible says, let her be acursed. The Catholic Church is an Anathema, Babylon the Great, filled with the Blood of saints. A curse.

Stuff like this makes Catholics don't study the Bible for themselves, if they do, their idealogies will be Shattered.
I mean, can the Op seriously say he is a Christian? A Bible following, Holy Spirit led Christian? Like really? Thank God they refer to it as "The Catholic Religion", for that's what it is, a religion.

The Bible calls others, Sins. It calls homosextuality and Beastiality ABOMINATION. Check, the Bible never pronounced immediate judgement on other sins, it says who ever does the Abominable shd be killed. That's the diff.

Don't mind these people. Infact, I need to know why the Catholic church was killing other Christians, whose only sin was reading the Bible for themselves.
Oh the evil of the Catholic Church. When I read "The Great Controversy" I Wept. Practical satanic agenda to silence Christianity.
I was raised a Catholic. I never saw a Bible in our home, only my Dad who is a Knight has a missal. He never opens it only in church on Sunday.
Absolutely no godliness there. When u hear them say "The Church" don't asume they r referring to the body of Christ No. "The church is a cult.
Wen u start a discussion wif a Catholic, bring in Scriptures and see the reaction.